RE: [IceHorses] Jumping Gat
She looks gorgeous in that photo! (need to see Alex's face, too!) They are all great pictures - makes me want to be 10 again! Gat seems like the perfect pony for Alex. That picture in particular reminds me why the tradition of pulling and braiding manes started - it's sometimes hard to see ahead when you are jumping a horse with a long, full mane. The mane sure adds to the pretty pictures though. :) Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 4/26/2007 3:23 PM
RE: [IceHorses] First Cutting
We are very low on hay in Western North Carolina, several late frosts have set us back quite a bit, no one I know has cut hay yet. Usually, my horses are fully on pasture by now, but I'm still scrounging for more hay. Hay cutting doesn't normally start until the first-middle of May in my part (slightly west of center) of NC. It's too cool at night before that, and too much dew forms, making it almost a sure thing that the hay will mold if cut earlier. Sometimes we don't cut our fescue until early June. The Bermuda grass that's grown just east of here, all the way to the coast, is a summer grass. They don't cut it before late June, and they get cuttings all summer, into the very early fall. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 4/26/2007 3:23 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Sina prefers pink
I need sunglasses! LOL I love yellow and I like the shade of yellow, but boy, you're right, it IS bright. It's a zilco deluxe halter-bridle, so the bridle slips over the halter and snaps on at the crown, so it won't slip. What I like better I think (probably on a dark horse too) is the yellow bridle over a black halter, maybe even a rope halter. A little bit of that yellow goes a LONG way! Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/778 - Release Date: 4/27/2007 1:39 PM
Re: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition
Subject: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition From Bia: Hi all... well she's not an icey BUT... here is my newest addition. Her name is Sally...Coming in June, thanks for posting the picture for me Judy. Bia
[IceHorses] First Cutting
Subject: Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting yeah... the orchard over here in central/north area of NC is not cut til may and is only around for a couple of months so I have to buy a bunch and store it. My guys were raised on alfalfa (generally second cut) and I guess they don't like the fescue because they pee on fescue hay. They will eat the green fescue growing but not the hay...I have never fed bermuda but I buy 80 pound bails of timothy from a broker near me for 7.25 a bale and store it. The broker has hay all the time so any of you North Carolinians who can';t find hay out west it may be worth a drive out here to trailer back some hay. There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a mix of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed. it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to give info if anyone wants it. By endurance we conquer - Earnest Shackleton
Re: [IceHorses] Jump pict
When I am taking my riding lessons and the horse I am riding does this, my instructor told me that I need to give a little squeeze just before the jump to make the horse go a bit faster. They will then jump instead of just trot or canter. It has worked for me every time I have done it. Pat G., in MN
Re: [IceHorses] Jump pict
On 4/28/07, Pat Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I am taking my riding lessons and the horse I am riding does this, my instructor told me that I need to give a little squeeze just before the jump to make the horse go a bit faster. They will then jump instead of just trot or canter. It has worked for me every time I have done it. I'll tell my daughter (maybe the coach did, I don't know). V
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
yeah... the orchard over here in central/north area of NC is not cut til may and is only around for a couple of months so I have to buy a bunch and store it. My guys were raised on alfalfa (generally second cut) and I guess they don't like the fescue because they pee on fescue hay. They will eat the green fescue growing but not the hay...I have never fed bermuda but I buy 80 pound bails of timothy from a broker near me for 7.25 a bale and store it. The broker has hay all the time so any of you North Carolinians who can';t find hay out west it may be worth a drive out here to trailer back some hay. There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a mix of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed. it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to give info if anyone wants it.
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
On 28/04/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hay cutting doesn't normally start until the first-middle of May in my part (slightly west of center) of NC. It's too cool at night before that, and too much dew forms, making it almost a sure thing that the hay will mold if cut earlier. Sometimes we don't cut our fescue until early June. The Bermuda grass that's grown just east of here, all the way to the coast, is a summer grass. They don't cut it before late June, and they get cuttings all summer, into the very early fall. Interesting when things are done in difference climates. We usually don't get our hay until mid-July. Then if we're lucky, we pull it right from the field and stack it and tarp it immediately. Though this year, we may just hire the fellow to deliver it as well. He lives a fair bit away, but his hay is beautiful. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Jumping Gat
On 4/27/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She looks gorgeous in that photo! (need to see Alex's face, too!) I wish I had Alex's face in the shot--maybe next time! V
Re: [IceHorses] Jumping Gat
On 4/27/07, Wanda Lauscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blink! Wow! Looking good. I thought so too! V
Re: [IceHorses] Jumping Gat
On 4/28/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That picture in particular reminds me why the tradition of pulling and braiding manes started - it's sometimes hard to see ahead when you are jumping a horse with a long, full mane. Alex usually puts braids for a class but it was chilly outside so she didn't--afterwards she didn't complain about the mane so maybe it didn't bother her. For the upcoming show we'll be doing proper braids--I bought some non-alcohol sport gel (human product) to help keep the stray hair in the braids but I won't cut or pull any of her mane. The one thing Alex did complain about is that her little Wintec saddle rubs too much and hurts her. She doesn't want to use the Sensation in her jumping class (don't know if it's because it's harder to jump with or if it doesn't look like the other saddles in the class), so, would that mean her 15 saddle is too small for her? It didn't rub when she first had itso maybe I'll be shopping for a larger saddle for her. V
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
Cherie Mascis wrote: Have you guys had your first hay cuttings yet? Janice We are very low on hay in Western North Carolina, several late frosts have set us back quite a bit, no one I know has cut hay yet. Usually, my horses are fully on pasture by now, but I'm still scrounging for more hay. Definitely low here in western NC. None of the dealers around here have any local hay. I just bought a load of timothy from someone who trucks it in from NY. Trish
Re: [IceHorses] Susan and Sina
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Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
bia wrote: There are 2 good dealers here one in Louisburg and one near Wake Forest. I get alfalfa and timothy all winter long... heavy bales. And I just got a mix of alfalfa/timothy (each bale is mixed) to store for the summer as needed. it's worth paying a bit more for such nice heavy bales to me. Happy to give info if anyone wants it. Hi Bia, I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid $10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up to $25/bale)! What area of NC are you located in? I'm in western NC. Thanks, Trish
Re: [IceHorses] Interesting Color, Pattern
On 4/27/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a speed racking colt, with an interesting color and pattern. His owner says she thinks it's buckskin with a sabino pattern that went wild. Judy Sure there isnt appaloosa in the mix?? Also, dun because the spots seem to be in the places dun factor is seen. like on the withers there where a donkey cross would be or primitive shading also the ripply marks on the legs where barring would be. What an awesome color!! I dont think sabino tho! the first signs of sabino would be a bald face and stockings, a black lip splotch etc. This ones face looks solid. Like dun. is the mom or dad dun plus buckskin? Also the dark mane. Could it be champagne buckskin dun? whatEVER it is it is just very very unique and beautiful! janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition
On 4/27/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Bia: Hi all... well she's not an icey BUT... here is my newest addition. Her name is Sally...Coming in June, bought site unseen outside of pictures and conversations...I know... I know... don't say it. Just look at her eyes and the boy with her and tell me she's not the cutest big ole girl you've ever seen! She rides and drives so guess who is gonna learn how to drive this year?! Bia I WANT HER! my gosh is she related to patches??? what a cool horse! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
Hi Bia, I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid $10/bale for my timothy What area of NC are you located in? I'm in western NC. Thanks, Trish hey trish, I'm near oxford, NC (central NC). email me directly re the info [EMAIL PROTECTED] don't want to stay off topic on the list for too many posts since I tend to do that too often! LOL! But, I'm gonna try to get some of the girls on this list who live this way to make a truck out there to visit Karen and points west so we can all meet (FRAN!!!). Hopefully sooner than later but it's hard to get everyone together... If you do come out for hay though... PLEASE let me know so we can meet up. Bia
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
yes it is interesting! Our real first hay will be in around mid-May. For now the early hay is full of weeds and usually a mix of ryrgrass, clover and some early costal. It is very rich and green and I have to peel off small portions. I cant wait til my hay man calls and says he is on the way with this years first cutting of real coastal! I went to a purina seminar recently and the woman said feeding too much hay is just waste, the horse doesnt metabloize extra. So if thats true then why are my horses all fat on free choice hay and jaspar loses weight immediate on flakes? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition
Just look at her eyes and the boy with her and tell me she's not the cutest big ole girl you've ever seen! She rides and drives so guess who is gonna learn how to drive this year?! That's a very nice looking horse! What breed? How tall? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Interesting Color, Pattern
On 4/27/07, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a speed racking colt, with an interesting color and pattern. His owner says she thinks it's buckskin with a sabino pattern that went wild. Judy she should send this ones picture to UC Davis or Auburn, I think they would be interested! They can dna test for sabino also. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Sina - pink (burgundy?) versus yellow
of a dark cherry pink. Anyway, the burgundy/cherry pink/whatever is one of my favorite colors on Sina. Yes, I like that one! Are the reins much lighter colored? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Interesting Color, Pattern
color and pattern. His owner says she thinks it's buckskin with a sabino pattern that went wild. Sure there isnt appaloosa in the mix?? Good eye, Janice! Here's the owner's response: lol, yep, your right, good eye! just a touch of Appy, 1/16th if my calculations are right. dam side: Mom RHBAA (Snowy)is a sabino cremellow out of Speck's full sister. Snowy's mom was a sabino palomino and her dad (Golddust I think was his nameTWH) was palomino. Snowy's grandma (Speck's mom) red sabino flaxen mane and tail, Snowy's grandpa (Speck's dad TWH - Nome Sweepstake) was a palomino. sire side: colt's father Fannin. Fannin is bay with snow flakes on his butt and 1/8 Appy. His mom, Ginger (bay), is a real fast smooth racking RHBAA full standardbred that was tatooed on the lip Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Brunka in Blue
Nice training technique, Karen. More than that, however, you have a beautiful spot to ride in! What is the wonderful rustic building in the background? Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition
Hi all... well she's not an icey BUT... here is my newest addition. Beautiful mare - MFT? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [IceHorses] Brunka in blue
On 4/28/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here, Brunka models the new line of blue accessories from the Zilco spring collection...:) Where are you buying all the Zilco? V
RE: [IceHorses] Interesting Color, Pattern
Sure there isnt appaloosa in the mix?? ! just a touch of Appy, 1/16th if my calculations are right. Now that's just amazing. I have a couple of friends who've bred full Apps, and many times they have to go looking for some tiny spots to show they qualify the foal for registration. And that one is only 1/16 App? What a bold pattern, for such a tiny bit of DNA! Joe, our big 16+ H bold-patterned leopard App, bred a bunch of babies before he was gelded - from what I understand, most were about 14H and solid colored! (Ironically, we bought Joe despite the spots, not because of them.) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] First Cutting
But, I'm gonna try to get some of the girls on this list who live this way to make a truck out there to visit Karen and points west so we can all meet (FRAN!!!). Fran knows the way, so come on down! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [IceHorses] Sina - pink (burgundy?) versus yellow
Yes, I like that one! Are the reins much lighter colored? Yes, I'm afraid so. Those used to be white, and I soaked them overnight in Rit wine dye and that's as dark as they got. I got some hot pink ones off ebay, that match the pink trim on the Hybrid, but they don't match the Zilco bridle. I could use those with a black bridle though... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Sina prefers pink
On 4/28/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need sunglasses! LOL I love yellow and I like the shade of yellow, but boy, you're right, it IS bright. I don't think it's just the yellow--it's the pairing of the yellow with that color horse--or else it was just the photo making it so bright. I love yellow too. I bet it would be striking on a darker horse. V
RE: [IceHorses] Brunka in blue
Where are you buying all the Zilco? V Different places. One of the endurance sites had it on sale a couple of months ago, and that's when I bought the yellow. I think I found the blue on ebay for a steal, which is rare, because it usually brings a good price on ebay. (I have matching blue reins and breastcollar.) I don't remember when/where I bought the burgundy - I think from a dealer who used to sell it on ebay. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
Janice McDonald wrote: I went to a purina seminar recently and the woman said feeding too much hay is just waste, the horse doesnt metabloize extra. So if thats true then why are my horses all fat on free choice hay and jaspar loses weight immediate on flakes? She's hoping you'll buy all that top-notch Purina horse feed instead? ;-) Wish her theory was also true about chocolate... :-) Trish
Re: [IceHorses] off topic picture: my newest addition
I wish she was gaited! LOL! She is Percheron/QH cross. She is 16.2. I swore I'd never buy another non gaited horse... show's you what swearing gets you! I've never in my life owned or ridden a heavy horse and I just got back from 3 hours with the man down the road who owns a carriage business. I just knocked on his door because I knew what he did and always admire the big drafts in his pastures when I drive by but had never met him before. We spent 3 hours talking and he showed me all the different types of harnesses he has from simple and light to giant fancy contraptions that spakle to the harnesses for mini horses...it was fun talking to him...He's going to give me lessons on one of his horses for awhile until Sally arrives and then he said we'll figure out just what she's made of and what size stuff she needs. He said normally driving horses are retired at about 15 from a working environment which is why she is the age she is and I am getting her at the price I am getting her at. He said pulling a small cart for pleasure will not phase her at all...it's the everyday pounding the cement that is alot for them after a certain point and human drivers will retire them at 15 (and insurance companies apparently don't insure a driving horse before 4 or past 16)... he did say that I will have a great riding horse for years to come especially since she won't even notice I'm on her back since I'm so light. I can't wait to feel what it's like to ride that high and that wide and that strong of a body. This guy is quite animated so he was telling me how their big feet stay up in the mud so when the small horses are sinking in the bottom of a muddy lake or trail, these horse plod along because there is more surface area. He says they are very great trail horses but just not usually used on the trail. He has beautiful carts that he uses for weddings and stuff so I'm gonna get to try one of those out eventually but he's starting me on his trail cart... explaining that he doesn't want his 10,000.00 investments to run amuck. I'm just glad he's willing to give me some lessons. She is also a gentle soul and I've wanted a horse on the place that I can put ANYBODY on. Bia
[IceHorses] Re: off topic picture: my newest addition
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, bia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish she was gaited! LOL! She is Percheron/QH cross. You never know. There are a whole lot of Perchies who are (unspectacularly...) gaited. Super comfy and lovely for trails. Perch/QH should be a lovely cross (I read the list via the web so didn't get to actually see the pic). Congrats! Perchies are swell. :) /Roo in VT
Re: [IceHorses] First Cutting
Hi Bia, I would be interested in the contact info for these dealers...I paid $10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up to $25/bale)! Kolur and Brenna are totally spoiled from the bagged Safe Starch Forage they have been getting twice a day. Now they think hay of any variety is for pee-ons. Sue __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Re: Gat
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/07, Kristen Mikula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you ever read any of Linda Tellington-Jones's books? There is a great T-Touch strech for the back that uses a girth to lift the belly and another that you use your fingernails or a hoof pick (on the belly)to ask the horse to lift her own back muscles. Yes--I've tried some lift the belly but it appears that Gat doesn't lift. I've used fingernails and girth but I don't see any change. Varði is determined not to lift using the tickling/poking on the midline method. What does work for him (and this would be way easier to show than to describe, so bear with me) is to stand up very close to him, really lean into him sort of bracing my bodyweight onto my elbows (bring my arms in front, elbows bent so that my torso is pressing against the backs of my upper arms), palms on him, fingers pointing down, and then sort of wipe upwards from his midline towards his spine. Do it on both sides. It's not as contortionist as it sounds. :) You can also get most horses to lift by standing right up behind them (if it is safe to do so--beware the danger of being kicked) and then using your fingertips to poke them on either side of the croup, about midway down (you have to play around to find the spot). I tend to do a couple of those and then do a tail tug stretch (while standing behind the horse, *gently grab a hold of his tail and *gently* lean back. If the horse likes it, he'll happily lean straight forward and in so doing stretch his spine.) /Roo (and Varði)
[IceHorses] Re: Gat
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Virginia Tupper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing to consider - many (most?) Icelandic's don't have sufficiently long necks to get on the bit, or at least with normally expected head carriage, like say a TB, warmblood or some QH and Arabs are capable of doing. Gat has a short neck so I really can't imagine her getting on the bit like the other schooling horses, but, how could she get her back up without going into that frame? Semantics, again... No, not every horse can physically get its face right at the vertical and have its poll the highest point, but that's really the least of being on the bit. It might be more accurate to say you want your horse on the aids, balanced and responsive to equal amounts (ideally almost imperceptibly light) of hand, seat and leg, with the back up, stepping under itself, using its pelvis and engaging (bending) all its joints relatively equally (i.e. not swinging stiffly from just the hip. but bending and using hocks and stifles). It's really not all about the headset. :) Lateral suppling (correctly--i.e. maintaining a true, consistent bend and not allowing the shoulder to pop out, or the horse to fall in, etc.--riding circles and serpentines) will help with the longitudinal. It will help her to develop the strength and suppleness needed to use her hind end and bring her back up (and yes, her head will end up going down as she uses the rest of herself correctly, although she might never physically be able to have the headset of a GP warmblood), and all this will help her W/T/C and by extension her tölt, too. It's so *not* about the head, or about cranking a horse into a particular shape. As others have said, it's a gradual process, and yes, as she does build strength and suppleness she'll be able to work in a frame (ugh!) that is *biomechanically correct* for carrying a rider for progressively longer periods of time. But it should be a *true* frame that arises out of correct work, not out of a pre-conceived notion of what the end product should look like. Slow, systematic, biomechanically correct conditioning and strengthening will help any riding horse of any conformation. :) /Roo in VT
[IceHorses] Spots still available for Icelandic Centered Riding Clinic in SE VT, 12-13 May
Hi all. Just a reminder, there are still a couple of riding slots available for the Centered Riding clinic for Icelandics and their riders in southeastern Vermont (just under 2 hours from Boston, 3.5 from NYC) on May 12-13. Auditors are also welcome. Now that it's actually looking like spring up here, it's a great time to come on up to the Green Mountain state. (So pretty! So green!) /Roo (and Varði) in VT Senior Instructor Lucile Bump will be teaching a Centered Riding® Open Clinic specifically for Icelandic Horses and their riders at Southmowing Stables in Guilford, VT (the southeastern corner of VT, just off I-91 near the NH and Mass. borders) May 12-13. Centered Riding® is simply a new way of expressing the classical principles of riding. It answers the question of how, when the riding instructor (or your horse's trainer!) tells you what to do to communicate with your horse. It applies equally to all disciplines and styles of riding, and can be particularly helpful for folks who are working through confidence issues. This clinic is open to riders of Icelandic Horses at all levels and includes both unmounted awareness lessons and mounted lessons. The open clinic is a great opportunity for riders to increase their understanding in a friendly, supportive environment of how their own bodies influence their horse's movement in all gaits. Cost is $250 for both days, auditors are welcome at $20 per day, including lunch. Stabling is available at $20 per night. Contact Lucile at 802.254.2831 to register or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] More information is available at http://www.centeredriding.org and http:// www.southmowing.com. A little about Centered Riding®: Many people are caught in the trap of unconscious habitual habit. Their bodies know only the old habitual way of movement. Centered Riding®, with simplicity and logic, allows you to discover an inner balance, serenity and control that in turn gives you greater freedom of movement, suppleness and coordination. These new qualities are reflected in your horse as increased balance, poise and forward motion. You and your horse become as one, in harmony. About Lucile Bump: Lucile Bump is a Senior Centered Riding® Instructor/Clinician. She has completed an apprenticeship with Sally Swift and still works closely with Sally. As such, she has intensive Centered Riding® training, an in-depth knowledge of the work, and is qualified to train all levels and disciplines of riders from beginners to instructors. As a Senior Centered Riding® Instructor, Lucile has the ability to employ a more in-depth understanding of Centered Riding® techniques in her teaching regardless of the discipline, whether it is Western, Dressage, Jumping, Endurance, etc., because she understands the foundations of the work. Lucile began riding around age 10 and grew up riding the wooded trails of Vermont. She rode all through school and competed regularly in Hunt Seat Equitation. Lucile met Sally Swift when she was 14, and has continued to work closely with Sally after completing her apprenticeship. Lucile began her teaching career while attending college in Marlborough, Vermont. After graduation, Lucile went to work at a Morgan farm, training horses, teaching riding lessons and doing some competing in Western and Saddleseat. In 1971 Lucile traveled to California to work with Linda Tellington-Jones at her riding instructors school. Upon her return to Vermont in 1972, Lucile purchased the farm that has become Southmowing Stables. Lucile has been teaching Centered Riding® to all levels and disciplines of riders for more than 20 years. In recent years, she has taught in throughout the world, including Germany, the UK, Vienna, Austria (home of the Spanish Riding School!), the UK, Germany, Holland and Peru. Lucile has also had students come to Southmowing Stables from Switzerland, The Netherlands, Denmark, Austria, Japan and Canada as well as from all over the United States.
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AMEN! Nancy in Oregon
[IceHorses] Re: First Cutting
I paid $10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up to $25/bale)! Just curious--how big are these bales that cost you $10? Are they the standard small bales, about 60-70#? Thanks, Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] Sina prefers pink
On 4/28/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bet it would be striking on a darker horse. V Like Orri...? :) I think everything looks nice on Orri! :D V
RE: [IceHorses] Sina prefers pink
I think everything looks nice on Orri! :D I think you're probably right. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] Re: First Cutting
robyn_schulze wrote: I paid $10/bale for my timothy (still a bargain compared to CA where it was up to $25/bale)! Just curious--how big are these bales that cost you $10? Are they the standard small bales, about 60-70#? They are about 80#, compressed, maybe more as I found them very heavy. The local fescue bales were about 30#, $4.25 each and filled with briars, leaves and twigs. Trish
Re: [IceHorses] Another outdoor photo
How long has Alex been riding? She's a pretty little rider. Nancy Sturm
RE: [IceHorses] Re: First Cutting
They are about 80#, compressed, maybe more as I found them very heavy. The local fescue bales were about 30#, $4.25 each and filled with briars, leaves and twigs. You must be buying your hay from the feed store, not from the farmers directly. Oh, wait - you weren't here last year in hay-cutting season, were you? I don't think I've ever paid over $3 per bale for fescue, with the bales weighing about 40-45 pounds probably. If you have a truck and are not opposed to working, you may be able to go pick it up in the field. Most farmers charge a lot less for hay if they don't have to stack it in the barn, and store it. I've paid as little as $1.50 per bale in the field - maybe $2 the last time I bought any in the field. It's hard, hot work, but you can see the quality you're getting and you can save some money. It is possible to find good, clean fescue, but you need to know the farmer - and the farmer needs to know that you need horse quality hay. Fescue can be very good hay - but some farmers bale weeds and call it fescue. Those same farmers may not be careful to ensure that the hay doesn't mold. We pay about $3.50 per bale for our beautiful, clean Bermuda, with the bales probably weighing about 50 pounds each I think, maybe a little more. For that, the farmer delivers it and puts it in the barn loft for us. Oh course, we have to buy a full truckload to get that price - his truck holds about 205 bales. (No problem since we have 25 horses - last year, I think we bought four truckloads.) We've been buying from the same guy for about 15 years. In that time, I don't think we've ever thrown away a full bale - there's never any trash in it either, so they eat every morsel. You need to find a good local farmer to buy your hay from - and be good to him! Our guy sells all the hay he can bale, but we've stayed on his list. Farmers tend to give their steady customers first pick, and everyone else gets any that's leftover. Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] Horses Are Always Trying to Communicate With Us
In what ways do horses try to communicate with us? How do they try to tell us if they are OK, not OK? Horses are always trying to communicate with us; how do we listen to them? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com