RE: [IceHorses] what gait?
Here's Stormur at liberty. Looks sort of pacey, but he's only got one foot planted...? Is that maybe a transition to canter, or is he about to throw in a little buck? That brings up an interesting tangent...you have the John Lyons type rope with you...when you are chasing a horse, do his/her gaits look typical?I don't round-pen my horses a lot, but I notice horses bucking or making odd moves more often, like roll backs, than when the are in the pasture with their friends. I know that horses will move differently on a circle than on a straightway, and even if you aren't in a round pen, they seem to want to keep a radius from you, staying on some circle-ish pattern. I had the feeling that Stormur might be about to buck or snake his head before I noticed the rope, that's why I asked. Karen Thomas, NC \
Re: [IceHorses] what gait?
That's an interesting comment Karen. Monte Roberts ws in town here once and a lot of us went to watch the show. An older cowboy friend said something like I bet he couldn't do that without the round pen. In the olden days, nobody had a round pen as such. We were still able to start and train nice horses. We did usually do the first backing in a contained space. Do I have one, oh sure. It has its place in horse training, but I don't spend a lot of time there. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] re: Definition of Tolt
On 7/3/07, pippa258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy Ryder wrote: I don't understand, tho, why people take offense at the learning process. The reason is right in your byline =-O All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer Unfortunately, some are stuck in the second level for quite a while! Trish I like the way its said at the beginning of my favorite novel of all time A Confederacy of Dunces, just paraphrasing, he says anytime a true genius appears it brings out a confederacy of dunces in protest-- janice yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Tolt Definition
Again, welcome! What do you do with your Icelandics? Do you show, trail ride or do something else? I'd love to hear more? And we LOVE pictures...:) Karen Thomas, NC, USA Actually at the moment I don't have an horse. I had a 5-gaited gelding, former show horse, Fáfnir frá Akureyri for 8 years before I had to put him to sleep due to health problems at the age of 23. With him I did mostly trail riding. I was still studying when I had him and I decided not to get another one before I had a steady job somewhere (a bit difficult to constantly move around with a horse). After a while started thinking that I don't have time for a horse anyway and abandoned my plans to buy an icelandic. But unfortunately I fell in love with a 6 yo mare this summer and now she's coming here probably in September (they need her where she is now until they can ride the mares with foals again). :-D I don't have yet any pictures of Fjóla (vom Wittenmoor, German import) and nothing in my computer of Fafu since the old computer died a while ago... But I'll try to take some pictures of icelandics next week when I go to Swedish Lapland to ride. Krisse from Finland
Re: [IceHorses] Larry Whitesell - Gaited Horse Clinic
Are you going, Laree? I might be able to go this time. I would love to go but I have devoted my time and especially money to getting this place set up so I can bring my horse here to live. I am very close but still have a few weeks of work to do. I should be all done by the end of July. I am wiped out financially for awhile paying for fencing, grading and building a run-in shed/hay barn. I audited this clinic in February (I think, it was sometime in the cold) and I posted a report to the list then. I liked what I saw and would love to take my horse but I have to be patient a little while longer. I do hope I can slip away to at least audit again. -- Laree
Re: [IceHorses] what gait?
From: Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looks sort of pacey, but he's only got one foot planted...? Is that maybe a transition to canter, or is he about to throw in a little buck? To me, he looks pretty darn pacey. His right front and right hind are moving back at the same time and his left front and left hind are moving forward at the same time. He's not about to canter or buck. If he were transitioning to canter, his right front would be leading and his left front and right hind would be starting to move together. If he were preparing to buck, his front feet would be starting to move closer together. Yes, he does have one foot support, something not characteristic of pace. Perhaps we have invented a new gait That brings up an interesting tangent...you have the John Lyons type rope with you...when you are chasing a horse, do his/her gaits look typical? I know that horses will move differently on a circle than on a straightway, and even if you aren't in a round pen, they seem to want to keep a radius from you, staying on some circle-ish pattern. I don't chase horses when I'm training, unless my life, or someone else's is in danger. I am free lunging Stormur. I am asking him to maintain his speed and keep circling around me as he heads toward the fence. He can choose the size of the circle. It's not a tight circle by any means. I had the feeling that Stormur might be about to buck or snake his head before I noticed the rope, that's why I asked. I think he's moving in pretty nice balance, something I taught him to do. He's relaxed. He's not tense in his neck or poll. His back is raised. Like Nancy, I think he's showing beautiful self carriage. Thanks for your opinion. I look forward to hearing what others have to say! Mary Sand Lake, NY
Re: [IceHorses] what gait?
From: Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's Stormur at liberty. Gorgeous and shiney! Thanks, Judy! Mary, do you see him as round in this picture? If so, can you point out where? Look at the drawings in Lee's book on page 34. Which horse does Stormur most resemble? Mary
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
Mary, do you see him as round in this picture? If so, can you point out where? I forgot to ask, were there any pictures of him from this session, or another time, taken directly from the side? (in this one, we see him more from the side and behind). Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
What do you see in the picture? What gait do you think he is doing? I think he's doing a stepping pace, bordering on hard pace. Stepping pace has a wide range, and I would place his, in this picture, far to the lateral side. We seem to be coming from different perspectives, mine from a dressage background, the rest of the list from a gaited horse background. Does that make one way right and the other wrong? Does it create problems with a gaited horse? No, one is not right and the other wrong; I think the basic principles are the same. I'm not sure what you mean by does it create problems with a gaited horse? There are, but I'd like to discuss this picture first. I like it because it clearly shows all 4 legs and his topline. I lightened the photo so you can see his topline better. OK. Back to your question about which image he looks like on page 34. Not *exactly* like any of them, but more like hollow than the others. I don't see round in this picture. The reason I asked for other pictures, is to be able to show you what I see. I'll do it with this picture, but a picture from the side would be better. First, I think that looking at the topline is only a little part of whether the frame is round, neutral, or hollow. I'm on my laptop at the moment (in bed, doing contrast therapy on my elevated leg) and I'd like to mark up his picture which I need to do on my desk computer, to go along with additional comments. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn Artwork by Dee
From Debbie: Dee of the icehorses list made this artwork for Raven and Huginn: Judy, thank you, please Tell DEE thank you for us, It is very special... thank you... Debbie in MN Huginn's Hospital Fund Website http://iceryder.net/ravenhuginn.html ~ I soar with the Eagles...as I float on the back of my barefoot gaited Morgan
[IceHorses] Huginn Artwork by Dee
Dee of the icehorses list made this artwork for Raven and Huginn: http://iceryder.net/ravenhuginn.html Thanks, Dee! IceHorses List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icehorses Please feel free to forward. Judy http://iceryder.net/ http://clickryder.com/
[IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... Blood work is off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send love, light, prayers energy I might spend the night at Raven's cause I think she needs me there. Judy, I will send you my cell phone number so you can check in with me and keep the lists updated... -- Debbie in MN Huginn's Hospital Fund Website http://iceryder.net/ravenhuginn.html ~ I soar with the Eagles...as I float on the back of my barefoot gaited Morgan ~
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... I'm so sorry to hear this. Love, bright light, healing energy and prayers are going out to Raven, Huginn and their loved ones. Hugs, Mary
[IceHorses] America the Beautiful
Happy Fourth of July! http://iceryder.net/america.html Please feel free to forward. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
Judy Ryder wrote: Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... Oh, man. This just sent chills down my spine...can't imagine how agonizing this must be for Raven. As always, my prayers and healing light to her and Huggin. Trish
[IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... Blood work is off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send love, light, prayers energy Oh no. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
From: Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do you see in the picture? What gait do you think he is doing? I think he's doing a stepping pace, bordering on hard pace. I agree. Stepping pace has a wide range, and I would place his, in this picture, far to the lateral side. I agree. I think if he were going straight, not on a large circle, he would probably doing a hard pace. We seem to be coming from different perspectives, mine from a dressage background, the rest of the list from a gaited horse background. Does that make one way right and the other wrong? Does it create problems with a gaited horse? No, one is not right and the other wrong; I think the basic principles are the same. Yes, I think so, too, but the focus is different. I am concerned for Stormur's long term soundness, being such a pacey horse. So, I invested a lot of time teaching him to relax through his body and elevate his back. I think if he had been trained by a gaited horse expert, that he would look, and probably move very differently. I am not experienced with other gaited breeds, and the iceys I have met are, for the most part, stiffer and more hollow than Stormur. At 15, he is very sound, (at least, between laminitis bouts!) and his back is beautiful, so I'm pretty happy with the way things have worked out. He is my main riding horse, so gets lots of miles on him. I'm not sure what you mean by does it create problems with a gaited horse? What I mean is: how does it affect the easy gaits? Does it change them, for better or for worse? OK. Back to your question about which image he looks like on page 34. Not *exactly* like any of them, but more like hollow than the others. I agree that he doesn't look exactly like any of them. We'll have to agree to disagree, as I think he's closer to round. I suspect you are looking from the rear end forward and I am looking from the front end back! I don't see round in this picture. What do you see in his head and neck? The reason I asked for other pictures, is to be able to show you what I see. I'll do it with this picture, but a picture from the side would be better. I'll need some time to get the other photos out and scanned. I have some family here today and can only do it on my husband's computer, which he takes to work. First, I think that looking at the topline is only a little part of whether the frame is round, neutral, or hollow. I agree. But Lee talks about pacey horses ALWAYS having hollow backs, not just hollow frames, so does it make sense to talk about whether the topline is round, neutral or hollow? I'm on my laptop at the moment (in bed, doing contrast therapy on my elevated leg) and I'd like to mark up his picture which I need to do on my desk computer, to go along with additional comments. I appreciate your input, Judy. Take your time. I hope your leg is getting better! Thanks, Mary
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried This is so tragic. I cannot believe it. I cannot imagine what she is going thru. She just lost Wizard.
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
Yes, I think so, too, but the focus is different. I am concerned for Stormur's long term soundness, being such a pacey horse. So, I invested a lot of time teaching him to relax through his body and elevate his back. That's good. I think that's a good focus, and that you're doing a good job. I'm not sure what you mean by does it create problems with a gaited horse? What I mean is: how does it affect the easy gaits? Does it change them, for better or for worse? Sorry, I'm dense today what is it? I'm just not making the connection of what it refers to. I agree that he doesn't look exactly like any of them. We'll have to agree to disagree, as I think he's closer to round. I suspect you are looking from the rear end forward and I am looking from the front end back! Yes, correct. I don't see round in this picture. What do you see in his head and neck? I see that his head is on the vertical (as well as I can see if from the back end :-)); and that his neck is level with his body; not raised, not lowered, not telescoped. I'd like to see this picture from the opposite side, with his mane out of the way. In fact, it would be good to see conformation pictures of him. First, I think that looking at the topline is only a little part of whether the frame is round, neutral, or hollow. I agree. But Lee talks about pacey horses ALWAYS having hollow backs, not just hollow frames, so does it make sense to talk about whether the topline is round, neutral or hollow? OK... let's see I think the back *can* be hollow, without you, me, us, anybody, being able to see an obvious sag. Does that make any sense? It's a piece of the puzzle, but we have to look at the whole to get the answer. Remember the blind men feeling different parts of an elephant, and one thinks it's a snake because he's feeling the trunk, etc. (I don't remember the rest off hand.) If someone were to look *only* at his back, it looks neutral. If someone were to look *only* at his head and neck, it may appear rounded to them. Please be sure to know that anything that I say in regard to this picture is not criticism of you, or of Stormur. We're looking at body parts, body position, limb position, frames; nothing personal. Like Stormur, my faithful horse Ljufur was pacey, and no matter what, he was a joy. Thank you for sending in the picture; it's a great educational opportunity. More later, in the meantime, tell me why you look from front to back? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Skeith tolt
At 18:48 2.7.2007, you wrote: If skeith is flying pace then why do they call it skeith tolt? skeið tolt is a not clear 4 beated tolt it leans more towards 2 beated pace but not quit the same as you often state that Icelanders do not recognise gaits as we say that the Icelandic horse is either 4 Or 5 gaited. this is one of the tolt+ gaits skeid tolt or you can also hear Icelanders say it´s skeiðborið meaning it´s not clean tolt beat. and you can also hear brokktolt/ tolt með brokk ivafi it more towards trot but still tolt movements in it for an untrained eye it´s hard to see and best to se in a video of course. I myself is a trotty person (bruno podlech say´s it´s diffirent with people some tolt some pace some trot) and that makes my horses often goes to trotty tolt I think it would be that you folks call foxtrot Kvedja Malin
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
I am so sorry. We won't write him off, but ... Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
My background is dressage with some hunter/jumper/combined training mixed in. I did always ride my dressage horses out on trail because I think it helps them to relax and also to use their hind ends. I readily confess to owning my first three gaited horses: TWH for two years, Icelandics a few months. I would be pretty happy to call this horse round. In this photo, even though Stormur is moving in a very lateral way, he's stepping well under himself. In my experience, perfection is hard to come by. If Hunter, the TWH, ever EVER moved this way (even at liberty) I'd throw a party. Because he is primarily a racking horse, he is usually ventroflexed. Because of my dressage background, it always seems wrong to me. I breathe a sigh of relief when he drops his head and really steps up under himself at the flat walk. Nancy - still learning
Re: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
--- Mary Arena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see his neck and poll as rounded, his back elevated, but his croup is not lowered, so he's not truly round. I do not see any hollowness. This picture really interests me. Actually, it confounds me a bit. What I see everytime I look at it is a pace with a level to round topline. But I know this can't be. So what am I not seeing??? I wish Lee was still around to explain this to me. Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 18:13 +, kim morton wrote: --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... Blood work is off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send love, light, prayers energy I wish I could know more...My instinct is screaming that they need to hit him with an antiviral(s), an antifungal(s), and keep up the antibiotics. They seem to be going with the antibiotics full force, but I keep feeling like maybe it's something else. I feel like it's time to pull out all the stops. That Blue Green Algae issue is an interesting theory, too. But, I don't know nuthin', and they're top vets. I've never owned a horse. *sigh* I know they're doing everything they can. I'm going to light a candle for him. I'm so sad, but hopeful still. I've had animals that I'd almost given up on, but out of sheer stubbornness just kept after with water and meds and they've bounced back. (Admittedly, these were chickens, which seem to have an uncanny knack for surviving amazing calamities unlike any species I've ever dealt with. If they ever grow brains, the human race will have a run for its money.) Well, off to light that candle. Never give up! -Dee the Lurker
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
I gave my Mosa a natural anti-viral, anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-protozoal when she was so near death. The vet had given her every antibiotic in their arsenal. I had nothing to lose. I am confident that it, along with several quick responses to her vitals on my vet's part, saved Mosa. I had nothing to lose and everything to gain at that point. Raven please if you haven't already, give Huginn the stuff I suggested. Hugs to you both. Keep the faith they can survive even when it appears hopeless. Mosa did. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
I would give that antiviral stuff a try. They're on the way home from the hospital now. I don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is there any place around you that sells GSE (grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl recommends? If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give it to him. Judy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
They're on the way home from the hospital now. I don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is there any place around you that sells GSE (grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl recommends? If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give it to him. Fred Meyers carries GSE if there is a FM in the area or is that a West Coast Store? Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] Re: Huginn 07/04/07
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, IceDog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're on the way home from the hospital now. I don't know if the stores are closed or what, but is there any place around you that sells GSE (grapefruit seed extract), which is what Cheryl recommends? If so, they could take it back to the hospital to give it to him. Fred Meyers carries GSE if there is a FM in the area or is that a West Coast Store? Usually any health food store will have GSE. I used to put that on the raw meat I gave the cats because it is supposed to get rid of bacteria. I have also used oil of oregano a lot, I always have several bottles. It can also be found in any health food store, in fact I gave it to Dari when he was so sick, 105 fever, and a staph infection that had partially paralyzed his throat, it was bad. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sardi6.html Kim
Re: [IceHorses] Background
I started taking riding lessons about 28 years ago with a dressage instructor who used Centered Riding techniques. Sally Swift hadn't written her book yet, but she lived in nearby VT, and came to my instructor's barn 4 times a year and gave lessons. She was just magic, and I always rode with Sally every chance I got, over a period of around 15 years! After she became well known, she only came once a year. She is still my favorite riding instructor! I got my first horse 22 years ago, added a second a year later and a third, 6 years later. I got my first Icey, Stormur in 1995, after losing my first 2 horses within a year, and added my mare Tibra in 1997 and Krafla in 2000. I've ridden in many clinics. Back in the 80's, I rode with several regional dressage instructors, Sarah Geike, Anne and Marcia Kulak, Janet Black, as well as Olympians, Tad Coffin (eventing) and Carol Lavell (dressage). I met Alexandra Kurland, who was teaching a Team clinic I attended, in the mid 80's. After getting my troubled TB, Skip, I hired Alexandra in 1993 to work with us once a week and continued taking weekly lessons from her until 2001. She helped me train Stormur. I still attend her clinics several times a year, and even had a couple of private lessons with her this past winter. I've done at least a half dozen clinics, several that I organized, with Bob Jeffreys and Suzanne Sheppard. Bob is a John Lyons certified trainer who has developed his own program and Suzanne is a Centered Rider and T'ai Chi instructor. I've also organised and ridden in several clinics with James Shaw, author of Riding From Within, T'ai Chi for the Equestrian. I've ridden in a 4 day clinic with Mark Rashid. I've audited many clinics: several round pen symposiums and riding clinics given by John Lyons; clinics by PNH instructors Dave Ellis, David Lichman and Bruce Logan; Pat Parelli and Clinton Anderson's weekend exhibitions, plus 2 Leslie Desmond clinics. I've attended 9 Equine Affaires, 1 in Ohio, and 8 in MA. Stormur and I went to the last US Equitana in Kentucky in 1999 and did a clicker demo with Alexandra. At Equitana and EA, I've watched demos by Linda Tellington Jones, Monty Roberts, Liz Graves, Brenda Imus, David and Karen O'Connor, Dave Seay, Michael Richardson, to name a few, in addition to others already mentioned. I've also ridden in some Icelandic horse clinics: with Dani Gehmacher from Germany, Sigrun, Disa and Helga, and Reynir from Iceland. My favorite active clinicians are Alexandra and Bob and Suzanne. I've been doing some freelance clicker training for the last 2 years, and started teaching riding lessons last fall after apprenticing for a year with a therapeutic riding instructor. I competed in a few dressage and English equitation shows in the 80's, but am not interested in competition, though my daughter is trying to drag me to a hunter pace in the fall! I may take Stormur. He's a very competive guy, unlike my mares! I enjoy trail riding with my friends and hope to go horse camping for the first time in a few weeks! Mary Sand Lake, NY
RE: [IceHorses] what gait / Stormur
What I mean is: how does it affect the easy gaits? Does it change them, for better or for worse? I'm not sure what you mean by it in this sentence...? Roundness/collection? Assuming that you mean roundness, does roundness help a horse gait better? Wouldn't that totally depend on where the horse is coming from in the beginning - what he's born with? If the horse is pacey and conformationally prone to hollowness, then yes, I feel sure you'd want to move him TOWARDS some degree of roundness or at least lack of hollowness if at all possible - as I gather you've done with Stormur. (Certainly not all the way to the roundness needed for piaffe, but just towards some degree of roundness...) But if the horse is born with ideal conformation to do an easy and natural gait like running walk or saddle rack, if you round him too much, then I think the soft gait will suffer. Does that mean you don't want to work this nicely-gaited horse towards more roundness? I guess that depends on the rider and the horse. I assume I'm probably not the only person who likes for their horses who can easily trot to do so, but there are pleasure riders who'd prefer that their horses never trot. I teach different cues for trot versus gait and try to use both - or all in the case of some of my multi-gaited horses. But, if a rider doesn't want to trot, they can certainly work the horse's back in other ways - with groundwork, lots of walking, doing a three-beat canter, getting him long and low for periods... I'm not sure that one way is right and the other wrong though, just two different ways to the same goal of a sound, healthy riding horse - one who's comfortable himself as well as for his rider. I agree. But Lee talks about pacey horses ALWAYS having hollow backs, not just hollow frames, so does it make sense to talk about whether the topline is round, neutral or hollow? I'm not sure what you mean. Lee's definitions of roundness, collection, etc. (pp 32-36 approximately in her book) are the same as I've read in classical dressage books - she talks about hollow backs as well as the other symptoms of a hollow frame, such as a rear end that doesn't lower. Here's something from the last paragraph on page 35 of Lee's book, which is the same as I've read in every good dressage book: There are many degrees of collection, from the slightly raised back of a horse just beginning to come away from a neutral position to the completely rounded frame of a horse working in a good piaffe. Can you point to something else in the book to clarify what you mean? Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Background
Good grief Mary. Why don't you move to Oregon. I would take lessons from you. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Huginn 07/04/07
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raven just called, in tears, I am going to drive up and be with her, Huginn is much worse today, the vet is very worried... Blood work is off the charts, Mentally hs is not well... please send love, light, prayers energy That is so nice of you to do that. I am thinking positive thoughts for both of them Happy Trails from Lori Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
[IceHorses] Invitation to view Raven's album - Huginn U of MN 2007
Dear Wonderful Friends of Huginn, I finally got in to see Huginn~!! Late this morning Dr. Tan from the U of MN called me to let me know that Huginn's temp was once again high, it was 102.5. Up from 99-100 the night before. Dr. Tan stated that she was very, very worried about Huginn, and concerned about the fact that his temp was up again. She was afraid that he had taken a turn for the worse. His white blood count is also up...higher that the last CBC. And his platelet count is still low. On the other handhis liver enzymes were a bit lower! What the heck is going on?!? Dr. Tan bumped up the G-Pen from 17 cc to 33 cc. She also added another antibotic (?) to fight gram positive bacteria. And Huginn is back on baninmine to try to control his temps. It was wonderful to see my cute little pony! When I arrived at his isolation stall, he had his butt to the door, as soon as he heard my voice, he quickly spun around and put his cute little nose over the tall wall to see to get to me. I was so happy to see Huginn! I really needed him to know that I love him very much and it's so important to me that he does not feel like I have abandoned him. I let him told that there are so many wonderful people all over the world who are praying for him, sending him love and healing energy. I let him know that Dixie is waiting for him to come home. I just hugged him and gave him a ton of my love. I also groomed him and after that, he laid down for a bit. Before I left the vet tech asked me to try to get him to eat, but he was not very interested in any of the food that was offered. The hospital staff is taking excellent care of my baby...but I really.really want him home! I miss him dearly. Here are a few photos of our visit. Sorry they are not the best. I had been crying half the day, so I look like crap and I had to wear two gowns ...felt like I was wearing a tent. I hope that Debbie chimes in and writes more. Honestly...I am totally spacey...I can not think right. Half the day, I kept asking Debbie where we were at, as I just could not get my bearings. I think I am just very tired and over stressed. I want to thank ALL of you for everything you are doing to try to help Huginn. I am humbled by your love and support. You have no idea how much strength...because of you! I want to give a BIG THANK YOU...to Debbie, she has been my rock! I love you ...girlfriend!My hubby Dan thanks you for being there for me today, while he was at work. He loved spending time with you over dinner and the giggles you gave him. And of course, chatting about CA with ya...gave Dan a welcomed... mental break. Tomorrow Huginn will have another endoscope and they planned on doing a complete body ultrasound to try to see if he has a hidden abscess or tumor that they may be missing. I am hoping that I am able to bring Huginn home ...SOON! I will try to update you as soon as I know more. I promise I will try to answer your emails...hopefully tomorrow or this weekend. THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING! You guys are the best! Please feel free to anyone I may have missed. Raven, Dan and Huginn http://picasaweb.google.com/IcePonyGoddess/HuginnUOfMN2007 email.jpg
