Re: [IceHorses] saddle pads
>>>Has anyone heard of limpet saddle > pads? They are supposed to conform to your horses > back. It is a non slip pad. I have never heard of it, but they give Linda Tellington-Jones as a reference, so maybe Robyn, Phil, and Christine have some input. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] saddle pads
To repeat myself. Has anyone heard of limpet saddle pads? They are supposed to conform to your horses back. It is a non slip pad. Thanks Lorraine Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
In a message dated 9/18/2007 3:05:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) There were some barefoot saddles and torsion also on ebay today. Might take a look. Sylvia ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
RE: [IceHorses] Saddles
After years of riding English, I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer. >>I have EZ-rides on my Sensation Dressage and I think it looks tres chic. >>I'd say go for it! (After all, how stylish would we look being dragged from >>a horse...?) Definitely put them on the Dressage. I saw someone get dragged with the plain EZ rides last week (fortunately not hurt badly) but I lost 10 years off my life watching it!. Cherie
Re: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
On 9/18/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay - let's go somewhere positive here. I rode Tosca in the arena this > morning for the first time and it went mostly how I expected it would. She > stood quietly to be mounted. She moved off readily when asked and made > several trips around the arena at the walk. Something scared her and she > jumped sideways and did a 180. I stayed with her well and just quietly > moved her back on the rail and kept riding her forward. > > Then she did what I sort of thought she might. She stopped dead in the > water and really didn't want to move ever again. > > She might have scared herself with her spook. The saddle doesn't fit well - > too long - so moving may not feel all that good. > > I didn't want to get after her and didn't have a whip anyway, so I just sat > there in the pretty morning sunshine until she moved forward on her own > and then I praised her lavishly. I think you did the absolutely perfect thing!! You stayed with her, you showed her that you would be patient with her, and you kept your cool and showed her that you are a leader that she can rely on. I bet the next time things will be 100% better. I don't think you need a leader at all. Robyn S
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
On 9/18/07, judy3hhd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Thank you all for your suggestions. I noticed nobody said they > give the daily wormer. Do I need to do that? Is it better to give > the vitamin supplements? My guy has very strong feet and am told by > the vet that he doesn't need a foot supplement. Judy, I had my horses on a hoof supplement for years, yet my twh continued to blow out the sides of his feet. When I switched to a Natural Balance farrier, the problem went away. His feet were properly trimmed, w/ no excess hoof wall, and so there was no hoof wall to blow out. He didn't need a supplement, he needed a good farrier and a proper natural trim. Now I feed both of the horses (twh and an Icelandic) a vitamin supplement, a bit of Safe Choice feed (about 1/4 cup for the Icey), a bit of hay pellets, and a scoop of ground flax seed, which I like very much for them--helps with itching. Robyn S
Re: [IceHorses] Quote
> > Life is as dear to the mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants > happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not to die, so do > other creatures. ~ His Holiness The Dalai Lama Thanks Judy--that's a real keeper. I changed my signature to that. Robyn S Life is as dear to the mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not to die, so do other creatures. ~ The Dalai Lama
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
> On 18/09/2007, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer.<< I have a pair of EZ Rides with leather hoods that I ride with my Sensation Saddle. I swear, my stirrups weigh more than the saddle, but I love them and feel safe in them, and no sage of prickley desert brush get on my socks! Susan in NV Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
Surely you jest. I LOVE my stirrups. I had what was almost a very bad freak accident the other day on trail involving a stirrup. We were going through a very tight spot with thick brush on each side and a stiff branch caught my stirrup and ripped it clear off my foot and around behind my leg. Hunter, the Magnificent, barely slowed down, but I had images of very nasty wrecks swimming before my eyes. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Saddles
So yes...let's all be safe. For those of you that ride western, you can buy those breakaway stirrups. Safety is the ultimate fashion accessory, don't you think? And speaking of being dragged, I wonder how many of us (including me) practice riding without stirrups often enough? I know that my first instructor made me ride without stirrups all along and I try to do it for a few minutes each ride. If I feel a horse getting boisterous if he's going to buck or spin - which hasn't happened in a long time, thankfully - I actually will drop my stirrups. I shouldn't NEED my stirrups to stay centered and balanced, and if I'm going to need to dismount quickly or heaven forbid, get bucked off, I don't want my feet getting stuck. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
RE: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
> Neither are we trying to hide our identities. But that's the territory > and the mentality when you stand up for a creature that has no voice and > is easy to push around. Yep. I have nothing to hide. I've never claimed to be the world's greatest rider, but my horses are treated well, and we manage to train some pretty nice trail horses...and everyone can see what we do. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 516-3179 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
RE: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
Karen, I recall a few of the videos you sent in of Melnir, the point of the videos was a little bit of gait analyzing weren't they?(wasn't it? -I've have my tense wrong) Yep. Melnir is very green, and I'm a believer that the first few months of training should mostly be walk, walk walk. I did finally get Cary to tape a few little bursts of flat walk and foxtrot that he freely offered. I have no qualms about posting my "in progress" videos. I'll keep doing it too. Of course the knits would never be smart enough to recognize anything but a "tolt"... It would be nice...but for THEIR horses, not for mine. They were nice little training videos. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Thanks Wanda. I'm not ashamed of the way we train - not one iota. I have nothing to hide. I am SLOW in my training...but you know, much better trainers than I am often recommend going slowly, so I know I'm on the right track. As far as nothing to be ashamed of...well, there's still my big butt on Melnir, but the person making the insults missed that prime target! :) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
Well some mean-spirited person posted a reply to my comment, discrediting me because I only ride "fat ponies." Don't worry about it. We don't have to go to that level. There's not much else to be done when the video clearly shows the problem areas, except to resort to personal insults. Neither are we trying to hide our identities. But that's the territory and the mentality when you stand up for a creature that has no voice and is easy to push around. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
> She was knocked unconscious the moment she hit the ground, she was > like a rag doll being dragged along. Well won't help in that case, but still a tidbit of potentially useful info I like to share when the topic of being dragged comes up. Maybe one day it will help someone who isn't knocked out in the fall. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] weird sudden death
On 18/09/2007, Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A friend of mine just called. Her beloved mare Mosa died this morning. > She was only 17, Oh Mic, I'm so sorry. Are they any closer to understanding the cause? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
On 18/09/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well some mean-spirited person posted a reply to my comment, discrediting me > because I only ride "fat ponies." As if that has anything to do with the > serious nature of what Judy posted. Ok, that was mean to me...but I about > rolled in the floor laughing anyway. They said the "fat pony" insult, but > posted a YouTube link to me riding Melnir, who's just now starting gait > training, and whose training I will NOT rush. Karen, I recall a few of the videos you sent in of Melnir, the point of the videos was a little bit of gait analyzing weren't they?(wasn't it? -I've have my tense wrong) Of course the knits would never be smart enough to recognize anything but a "tolt"... They were nice little training videos. You have nothing to be ashamed of. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
> Of course, thats the old "get it done, who has time" > to care about the horse way. One of my mares had a > terrible blow-up of her ribcage when I first got > her- I'd start barely able to get to the 1st hole on > both sides and by the time we were done, she was up > on the last hole on both sides. It is amazing how many holes to can go after you just wait a while. My arab was bad about that. Lorraine Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
> I bet it was tough for Judy to do thisI'm sure there will be a few > people come out swinging. I will say that it takes guts to stand up for the horse. I applaud all of you who are doing so. It's easy for others to try to take the focus elsewhere and resort to personal insults. Obviously a lot of people read our list religiously! A decade ago, we stood up and pointed at the star-gazing. That changed, so we can pat ourselves on the back. As I told Robyn way back then, the pendulum swings, and it would eventually go to the other extreme, as we see from the current video with the behind the vertical, so we're hoping that eventually the pendulum goes to the middle and good horsemanship will be found. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
> Try this: strap a saddle onto this girl, tightly, > and then kick her in > the stomach when she sucks in her breath. I > guarantee she will NEVER > again consider doing this to a horse. > > Robyn S Thats exactly what I thought. How would she like it. My gosh. Lorraine Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
> ridden in a treeless. Am I right in remembering > that Sensation has a demo > period? They have a demo period. I saw on one of the sites when I was looking. Lorraine Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] weird sudden death
--- Mic Rushen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A friend of mine just called. Her beloved mare Mosa > died this morning. I am so sorry. My thoughts are with her. Oh gosh Lorraine Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
RE: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
> > > I would say, "Don't you dare!!" too. There's no > reason to do that. Groom I can think of a million things I need to do before I am ready to get on. Get water, put on bridle. Do flyspray,etc. Lorraine Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
> Oh good grief! I would have hoped that old idea was > dead and buried. > Ya. I couldn't believe this girl said that. It wasn't the girl I sold Harley too or I would have sent HER packing. I just cinch up. Do everything else (which takes forever) then I can cinch more. Lorraine Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
RE: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
I bet it was tough for Judy to do thisI'm sure there will be a few people come out swinging. Darned right. Thanks, Judy. >>> I haven't read the blogs yet, but I can just imagine who will say what Well some mean-spirited person posted a reply to my comment, discrediting me because I only ride "fat ponies." As if that has anything to do with the serious nature of what Judy posted. Ok, that was mean to me...but I about rolled in the floor laughing anyway. They said the "fat pony" insult, but posted a YouTube link to me riding Melnir, who's just now starting gait training, and whose training I will NOT rush. Melnir is a fairly small Icelandic, and my vet says it wouldn't hurt for him to gain a few pounds. So, here I've been worrying about how humongous my butt looks when I ride him, and someone calls him a "fat pony." That tells you that the person doesn't have anything of substance to say...and that they can't even tell a refined, slightly-thin pony from a fat pony! :) While that part is funny, that tells me the mentality of the kind of people who would defend such riding. They only want to insult people...and they don't even know enough to get their insults straight. It's really not funny at all when you think of the horses that suffer... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
On 18/09/2007, IceDog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They say luckily I've never had to try it or see if it even came to me > in a moment of need but if you're being dragged you're supposed to try > to roll over on your belly giving your foot a chance to slip free from the > stirrup. She was knocked unconscious the moment she hit the ground, she was like a rag doll being dragged along. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
I like my caged easy EZ Ride Stirrups for saddles without a "release". > BTW...speaking of dragging, my absolute favorite vet in the world was > out riding a month ago, and her horse spooked and her foot slipped > through her western stirrup and she was dragged for at least 10 > minutes before they were able to stop her horse. She's staying at a > friends house while she recuperates. Both hands are broken, both > legs...and almost everything else has a cut or a ding. She's going > into surgery again in a few weeks. They say luckily I've never had to try it or see if it even came to me in a moment of need but if you're being dragged you're supposed to try to roll over on your belly giving your foot a chance to slip free from the stirrup. Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandics Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.toltallyice.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
On 18/09/2007, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just signed up and posted my opinion to support Judy's post. I noticed > that a few others have too. Let's be heard! I bet it was tough for Judy to do thisI'm sure there will be a few people come out swinging. I haven't read the blogs yet, but I can just imagine who will say what Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
On 18/09/2007, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I actually have a brand new pair of EZ rides with cages in my tackroom. I > bought them for Stephanie, but have never put them on a saddle. After years > of riding English, I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides > that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung > them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer. Nancy, I think we're all that the point where we just don't care what we look like. If you feel safer using them, then do it. I have some toe stoppers on my Icelandic "S" stirrups and I love them. I always worried that my foot would slip through and I'd be dragged for hours. BTW...speaking of dragging, my absolute favorite vet in the world was out riding a month ago, and her horse spooked and her foot slipped through her western stirrup and she was dragged for at least 10 minutes before they were able to stop her horse. She's staying at a friends house while she recuperates. Both hands are broken, both legs...and almost everything else has a cut or a ding. She's going into surgery again in a few weeks. So yes...let's all be safe. For those of you that ride western, you can buy those breakaway stirrups. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Videos from the Lake
Oh Susan...you poor thing with such a difficult Whisper to deal with. :) (Looks like you were both having fun.) Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 04:11:58PM -0700, Nancy Sturm wrote: > I actually have a brand new pair of EZ rides with cages in my tackroom. I > bought them for Stephanie, but have never put them on a saddle. After years > of riding English, I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides > that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung > them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer. then do it! i bought a pair for one of my students (who rides in an australian stock saddle) for his birthday. they're great :) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
Of course, thats the old "get it done, who has time" to care about the horse way. One of my mares had a terrible blow-up of her ribcage when I first got her- I'd start barely able to get to the 1st hole on both sides and by the time we were done, she was up on the last hole on both sides. It was truely amazing. And she could hold her air for a LONG time,too. I got advice to knee her, but I couldn't see how that would help her or me in the long run. Not only would she resent it, but I would begin to resent having to do it! Slowly, she started to change attitude and now when I let her drop her head to nibble grass as I reach for the girth she doesn't blow-up at all. I'm not sure what exactly made the difference( the extra time I took to get her girthed all the way up, the days I would put on the saddle, girth it half way, then take it off without riding and repeat, the times I took really extra care to put the girth in the spot where she didn't pin her ears back, maybe it was the few times I gave her a cookie after girthing up, or all the above -none of the above -or things I don't even recall doing). She's just a lot happier about the whole thing these days. Its not bc the girth is looser- I do tighten it up so there is no slippage of that saddle! She doesn't love the girth, but she doesn't hate it anymore. So obviously, I don't care for kneeing as a girthing solution. Ash
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
i've been very happy with both my sensation dressage and my hrimnir (treed) saddles. in either case i think the important thing is to get a good dealer and/or saddle fitter and a trial period is invaluable. (though i think long after my trial periods for both i'm going to want yet a *different* saddle, now that we've taken up jumping of all thingssigh! :) --vicka
RE: [IceHorses] Saddles
After years of riding English, I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer. I have EZ-rides on my Sensation Dressage and I think it looks tres chic. I'd say go for it! (After all, how stylish would we look being dragged from a horse...?) But then, I rode in a western BMSS for a while, rigged with English peacock irons for safety, so how stylish am I...? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
I actually have a brand new pair of EZ rides with cages in my tackroom. I bought them for Stephanie, but have never put them on a saddle. After years of riding English, I actually feel very safe in the leather-covered EZ Rides that came on the Tucker. How weird do you suppose it would look if I hung them on the dressage saddle? I'd sure feel safer. By the way, after a lifetime of riding 16 h horses and now having the 14.3 h Hunter as a primary horse, I feel like Clinton Anderson or some other long lean cowboy type when I step off Tosca and the ground is right there under my left foot. I always wondered what that would feel like. Nancy
RE: [IceHorses] Saddles
to me the hybrid is more secure feeling. I think all Sensations are secure, but the Hybrid is probably the most. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
RE: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
I put the article on Eidfaxi... let's have your opinions heard, too: http://eidfaxi.is or: http://en.eidfaxi.is/English/Home/ Click onto Write a Blog, and then Join, to be able to post your responses. the URL to the article: http://community.eidfaxi.is/blogs/iceryder/archive/2007/09/17/what-are-they- applauding.aspx I just signed up and posted my opinion to support Judy's post. I noticed that a few others have too. Let's be heard! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
[IceHorses] RMH / Waco KY
Posted by: "c.peddlers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have two horses for sell one is a 3 year old rocky mt. and a 2 year > old quarter horse mare 500.00 each call 859-369-7068 or cell 859-699-6155 Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Quote
A quote from the ClickRyder list: Life is as dear to the mute creature as it is to man. Just as one wants happiness and fears pain, just as one wants to live and not to die, so do other creatures. ~ His Holiness The Dalai Lama Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Videos from the Lake
this is beautiful Susan!! awesome. Is it a manmade lake?? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
to me the hybrid is more secure feeling. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Saddles
On 9/18/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I'm a little > worried about spooks in an unfamiliar saddle. Orri has done some spooks and bolts while we rode with the Sensation Dressage--it hugs me and mades me feel safe. I also have cages on my EZ rides. V
RE: [IceHorses] Saddles
>>> I'm really nervous about buying a saddle that might not work and I've never ridden in a treeless. Am I right in remembering that Sensation has a demo period? Yes, most of the treeless brands have demo periods. I like the Sensations best and find them VERY secure - more secure than any treed saddle I've ever ridden in. The Torsions and Barefoots aren't bad either. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
chris cox talks about starting a young horse and them getting "sticky". Its when they are afraid, unsettled about carrying a human on their back and how it feels. when they start forward you move and they feel like they have to run ahead, sorta like a person going down a steep hill will start running so they wont fall. A buck can even be a balance adjustment. it is good to have a person on the ground. a good way is to do things in the round pen on the ground, then mount, and have a person on the ground put them thru the same moves with you up there and they kinda "get it". When I first started mine we would go for long walks on the trail. then long walks waering a saddle and bridle. Then after mounting and ridden in the roundpen, long walks with me in the saddle and my husband on the ground, only thing different was me in the saddle. Then I had a paddock at the time just full of sapling trees. I rode hours in those trees, and when i would rein, i would do my leg and neck rein at the same time and they caught on really quickly to that. Wow, i just realize I kinda miss those days with my stonewall. he was my baby. now he is a teenage goofball :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Saddles
I'm really nervous about buying a saddle that might not work and I've never ridden in a treeless. Am I right in remembering that Sensation has a demo period? I did try a friend's Watson dressage saddle and I really loved it, but at $1399 + it would have to be perfect. We have a Passier dressage saddle that seems to fit the round-bodied Tosca quite well, but I find it to be really uncomfortable. And I'm a little worried about spooks in an unfamiliar saddle. The too-long Tucker is my security. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:15:02 -0500, you wrote: > nasi might be gay. I worry about it sometimes late at night when i cant > sleep. > Tibra is definitely gay - she covers the mares and puffs up like a stallion, snorting and neighing when they're in season. And she HATES the stallion. She's much more butch than he is. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
RE: [IceHorses] Firey little devils
v"Jordan and I took a very expensive trailride on some Icelandic ponies that afternoon. Firey little devils! I had alot of trouble keeping mine from bolting. Sometimes I didn't bother." Yeah, fiery...or how about: scared, or poorly trained, or in pain, or confused, or any combination of the above... Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
> I didn't want to get after her and didn't have a whip anyway, so I just > sat > there in the pretty morning sunshine until she moved forward on her own > and then I praised her lavishly. > > If there'd been anyone around, I'd have had them lead her, but I was > alone. I think what you did was probably the right thing, whether or not someone else was available. The horse can't learn until he is calm and receptive, so waiting for that moment, is a good thing. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
>>> I didn't want to get after her and didn't have a whip anyway, so I just sat there in the pretty morning sunshine until she moved forward on her own and then I praised her lavishly. Sounds like that was a good plan to me...:) If there'd been anyone around, I'd have had them lead her, but I was alone. And yes, before someone reminds me, 65 year old great grandmas probably should not be starting horses alone. Suggestions? Honestly, I'd say consider getting her a better fitting saddle as soon as you can. With another one coming up to start, and with both of them young, they will both be changing back shapes a good bit over the next 3-4 years. Have you considered a treeless saddle? I was breaking the bank buying new saddles until I found my Sensations. I don't like the Barefoots as well, but they will do the job, and I've seen more of them for sale used. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:54:58PM -0700, Nancy Sturm wrote: > Then she did what I sort of thought she might. She stopped dead in the > water and really didn't want to move ever again. > [...] > I didn't want to get after her and didn't have a whip anyway, so I just sat > there in the pretty morning sunshine until she moved forward on her own > and then I praised her lavishly. > > If there'd been anyone around, I'd have had them lead her, but I was alone. > And yes, before someone reminds me, 65 year old great grandmas probably > should not be starting horses alone. > > Suggestions? i know virtually nothing about starting young horses, but it sounds to me like you did exactly the right thing, and it's the same thing i'd suggest someone do on an older horse who'd scared themselves too. give them a minute to get their act together; praise them when they do. i don't think adding a whip would have been at all good for the situation -- might even have scared her more. a person on the ground might have helped her collect her wits quicker, but you won't always have such a person, as you've already discovered. so for what my free advice is worth, i think you're already fine :) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Training suggestions?
you are very very brave and I am proud of you. also, to sit a 180 is pretty good riding... let her soak. think about what may have scared her. next time spend a longer tie before mounting until she seems just dead calm/bored. I imagine something about the riding/saddle scared her. so on the ground make sure you flap things around, wobble the saddle around, lay over the saddle and wave arms, all that desensitization stuff. all i can think of! maybe some treats. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] weird sudden death
Hi. How sad! I have never heard of this central nervous system problem in horses, but I´m certainly no expert in this. Was the mare in foal? My best, Gudrun, http://skeggsstadir.blog.is/album
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:24:43AM -0700, Lorraine wrote: > I don't condone this myself. What do you thing about > kneeing a horse in the stomach while saddleing him? > The girl I sold Harley to, her friend suggested it. I > told her "don't you dare"! i'm with you. one of my students leases a quarab named cheyenne, and we think this was done to him. on the one hand, he never, ever blows out his belly, and you only have to tighten the girth once. on the other hand, he HATED AND FEARED the saddling process, pinning his ears, sidling away, lifting a hind foot, the usual :/ my student had been just barging ahead with the saddling (he would NEVER knee a horse in the stomach) without any change in this behavior for a couple of years. now we have been working on sweetening cheyenne's experience -- i scritch him and give him carrots while my student puts on the saddle and tightens the girth -- for some months. we've moved to a "random reward" condition where sometimes he gets the carrot and sometimes he doesn't, but by now he also stands calmly about 90% of the time. much more pleasant. next, working on standing still after mounting :) --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] Firey little devils
On 9/18/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From a journal post about a trip to Sweden: > > "Jordan and I took a very expensive trailride on some Icelandic ponies that > afternoon. Firey little devils! I had alot of trouble keeping mine from > bolting. Sometimes I didn't bother." oh my gosh they must not have trees there. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
http://community.eidfaxi.is/blogs/iceryder/ I did a response. cool! we need to all join and let them know how we feel! its critical! Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] weird sudden death
>>> A friend of mine just called. Her beloved mare Mosa died this morning. She was only 17, and to all appearances perfectly healthy. Mic, I'm so sorry. Was Mosa once your horse? I seem to remember you talking about her before. It's very sad. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[IceHorses] Training suggestions?
Okay - let's go somewhere positive here. I rode Tosca in the arena this morning for the first time and it went mostly how I expected it would. She stood quietly to be mounted. She moved off readily when asked and made several trips around the arena at the walk. Something scared her and she jumped sideways and did a 180. I stayed with her well and just quietly moved her back on the rail and kept riding her forward. Then she did what I sort of thought she might. She stopped dead in the water and really didn't want to move ever again. She might have scared herself with her spook. The saddle doesn't fit well - too long - so moving may not feel all that good. I didn't want to get after her and didn't have a whip anyway, so I just sat there in the pretty morning sunshine until she moved forward on her own and then I praised her lavishly. If there'd been anyone around, I'd have had them lead her, but I was alone. And yes, before someone reminds me, 65 year old great grandmas probably should not be starting horses alone. Suggestions? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Was "applauding" now "hostage mentality"
> By the way, I was never, EVER as mean as I am now before I went through that > with my kid. I learned quickly that I can be mean when it involves child > welfare, and I feel the same about animals. How sad for your daughter, Karen. I'm glad she had such great support in her parents. I understand a bit about this statement above, as I've had to learn the hard way to be an advocate for my animals, as well as my son. And if it involves standing up to authority sometimes, or being a bitch, well so be it. My family and beasties will always have me behind them. Robyn S
Re: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
> nasi might be gay. I worry about it sometimes late at night when i cant > sleep. i dont really have anything against gay people, its just that i only have one harness plume and if nasi is gay i will have to spend the 18 bucks for another one. I think he wants white. with pearls and silver sequins. he wants to be in a wedding someday i think. I just sense that, he hasnt really said anything. But he has a certain stylishness and je nez se quoi (sp?) the others don't have. I have noticed he was different even as a weanling. He has always preferred my husband to me and has a certain effeminate air. Now he is getting hair like jimi hendrix. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] weird sudden death
oh this is so sad, bless her heart, it could be anything! My farrier's horse suddenly had a nosebleed and within two minutes just sank to the ground and was dead. It was an aneurysm the vet said. here in the US it could be west nile, encephalitis, stuff like that, she could have been bleeding internally from something! I am so sorry to hear this. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
nasi might be gay. I worry about it sometimes late at night when i cant sleep. janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
On 9/18/07, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed the same thing in the Sherrif's possee photo. It was taking a > grown man to hold him down. that was my husband. I rode the hair off jas, worked him thru from being a paranoid schitzo trainwreck horse that wouldnt get in a trailer for two frikken years, pamper him, spoil him, baby that long hair of his hours at the time, and then when its show time, voila, my husband steps up to the plate for all the accolades :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 03:56:50PM +0100, Mic Rushen wrote: > The cavesson does suit him, but I think he would still look OK without > it. I like bling, myself! i should get some pix of him in is bridle set up that way and post... thanks!! --vicka
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 07:39:13AM -0700, Nancy Sturm wrote: > I have to argue with you here - Starni does NOT have a coarse head. He's > lovely! I suspect he has a very petite owner. You want to see coarse, > there's the plain-headed Tosca (our house), but she has such a lovely spirit > that I think of her as beautiful. :) it's like we were saying about people, inner beauty counts! and of course i think stjarni is the loveliest horse ever. that said, any 14hh equine who requires a "draft-size" throatlatch (the rest of his bridle is merely "full size" :) does not have the daintiest head. (i will allow that he has the sweetest expressions, and i'll bet your tosca does too, and maybe that's where her beauty shines through :) of course, one of the things i love about stjarni's looks overall is his general *lack* of daintiness. he looks very powerful to me, with his deep shoulder, big bones, and, yes, that head :) not that dainty horses aren't adorable too -- there was a little mare named perla at the clinic we attended who looked like stjarni's fairy-princess double! but stjarni's chiro once mistook our barn's belgian, carrying two riders, for my ponykins, and i just had to laugh :) thanks for your kind words, you made my day :) --vicka (also short and fuzzy :)
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
On 9/18/07, judy3hhd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ---Thank you all for your suggestions. I noticed nobody said they > give the daily wormer. Do I need to do that? Is it better to give > the vitamin supplements? Judy - There is a lot of controversy/differing opinions about daily wormer. One thing I know about it is that there is a component in it that makes your horse gain weight (and I'm not talking about just getting rid of any worms - this is in addition to that) Along with other reasons-- since Iceys have a tendency to gain weight easily anyway, I chose not to use it. The horses here (2 Icelandics) get a flake and a half of hay in the morning, Triple Crowns Safe Starch Forage(about 20 ounces - 2 big, big handfuls) with EquiMin loose mineral supplement and flax seed(1/4 cup) for lunch and another flake and a half of hay for dinner. Unfortunately they don't have access to grass as my acreage is small and not much is available to them. Of course, fresh water is available at all times. This diet keeps them at a nice weight if not a little on the plump side. My big horse friends get all freaked out because they don't get any grain but marvel at their shiny coats and good weight. Laree
RE: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
Do you have a problem with gay people, Jackie? And based on yesterday's post, I'd guess there's a wee problem with Mexican immigrants too. Sheesh. Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] Free Safety DVD
>From Nutrena, a free horse safety DVD: http://iceryder.net/nutrenafreedvd.html Please feel free to forward. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
What does the CDC have to do with gay agenda? and why does that matter? Good grief, what hysterical paranoia. Oh sheesh, let's please move on. We're all friends here, talking about our HORSES. Let's please get the off-subject and politically offensive statements off the table here. Jackie, do you have trouble with people not being "nice" to you everywhere you go? I wonder why. Karen Thomas, NC
RE: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
This is pretty wild:) Let's get into our time machines and go back to 2007, we are not in 1955 anymore. Good one, Kim! Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "jacklyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems that the press does not want to touch it > eitherI wonder why? (gay agenda?) > This is pretty wild:) Let's get into our time machines and go back to 2007, we are not in 1955 anymore. Kim
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
On 9/18/07, Lorraine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't condone this myself. What do you thing about > kneeing a horse in the stomach while saddleing him? > The girl I sold Harley to, her friend suggested it. I > told her "don't you dare"! Try this: strap a saddle onto this girl, tightly, and then kick her in the stomach when she sucks in her breath. I guarantee she will NEVER again consider doing this to a horse. Robyn S
[IceHorses] Was "applauding" now "hostage mentality"
Then I got to thinking some more - I wonder if part of the reason the Brits don't do any better now than we did years ago is actually to do with our attitude to our horses? Maybe we just don't push them that extra bit, don't train them that bit hard enough etc. (and I'm glad we don't). Saying that, one or two of the team members are really, really competitive, and they get a lot of help from some of the top European riders. How long will it be before they find out exactly what they need to do to win? : ( Mic, I think you're seeing it right, Mic...unfortunately. Many years ago when my daughter was in middle school, it came to our attention that the school's discipline had just gone awry. The teachers apparently had tried to change things for a while, but after a while, when they got no response from the administration, they quit trying and the horrible just seemed normal to them. We found out about what was going on when our daughter, 12, came to us and admitted she'd been assaulted - not literally raped, but physically assaulted in a way that no adult woman would stand for...in the school. She was just a child. And, not just once, but several times, by several boys...in the hallways, in the cafeteria...you name it. We immediately went into the principals office and when he said something to the effect that "boys will be boys" I almost had to pull my husband off of him. We'd already called the sheriff's department, and the juvenile officer came in about that time. Thank God. He interviewed probably two dozen girls, got similar stories from them, involving probably over a dozen boys. It was simply chaos. Once the sheriff got involved from the outside, there was no question of what was happening, or how rampant it was. With no coercion, the deputy got confessions from about 6-8 boys, and parents of about a dozen girls were supportive of their daughter's pressing charges - some girls were too embarrassed to talk about it, some didn't want to tell their parents, and some parents didn't want to press charges. It was open and shut. Our daughter decided to press charges, so we supported her decision...and eventually the principal and one teacher were fired. Every boy who went to court was found guilty. EVERY SINGLE ONE. There was no question that it was happeningonce an outside agency got involved. But inside it had become normal. I went to that same school when I was her age, but with a different principal. I NEVER had such adult worries when I was so young. The parents of the girls were stunned. How on earth could this be happening in a civilized society? The juvenile officer explained it to us this way. Essentially, most people are sheep when it comes down to it. He said that in their police training, they are told its critical to get any hostages out of a hostage situation in a very short period - I think he said within 24 hours generally. Otherwise, most people, in an attempt to survive, will start to see the absurd or even horrendous as "normal." Hostages will quickly identify with their captors even. That's exactly what was going on in that school...and apparently in other schools across the country. I'm proud to say that several of us got active and got some new laws passed to protect our children. Our kids, and even the teachers were virtually hostages. So, Mic, if you or anyone else wonder why I so strongly scoff at the idea of changing things from within...that's why. Once you are "inside", you are in danger of becoming a "hostage", be that literally or figuratively. Not a single teacher was doing anything to help those poor kids. At least the teacher that my daughter reported her first incident to, and who chose to do nothing, got fired. My daughter will live with that for the rest of her life, but the ones I feel sorry for are the kids who were too scared to tell their parents, and who didn't have emotional support at home... Those of us on the outside don't see what's happening in the Icelandic show world as "normal" - and I pray to God that I never do... By the way, I was never, EVER as mean as I am now before I went through that with my kid. I learned quickly that I can be mean when it involves child welfare, and I feel the same about animals. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
>>>the vice president of the United States. (gay agenda?) >>>Brazilian dresses made from condoms. (gay agenda?) What does the CDC have to do with gay agenda? and why does that matter? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
> I put the article on Eidfaxi... let's have your opinions heard, too: > > http://eidfaxi.is > > or: http://en.eidfaxi.is/English/Home/ > > Click onto Write a Blog, and then Join, to be able to post your responses. Forgot to include the URL to the article: http://community.eidfaxi.is/blogs/iceryder/archive/2007/09/17/what-are-they-applauding.aspx Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
Do you have a problem with gay people, Jackie? Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
[IceHorses] Firey little devils
>From a journal post about a trip to Sweden: "Jordan and I took a very expensive trailride on some Icelandic ponies that afternoon. Firey little devils! I had alot of trouble keeping mine from bolting. Sometimes I didn't bother." Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
> Well, I've sent it to the President of FEIF (along with a quote from > his welfare letter) and the entire FEIF sport committee. It will be > interesting to see if I get any reply at all... OK, good. I was going to send it to them myself, but maybe better that you did. They SHOULD take these things into consideration. If they have eyeballs, they should be able to see these things for themselves. Maybe they are in a snowball effect; it just seems to be rolling along, getting worse. I put the article on Eidfaxi... let's have your opinions heard, too: http://eidfaxi.is or: http://en.eidfaxi.is/English/Home/ Click onto Write a Blog, and then Join, to be able to post your responses. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "judy3hhd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . >> Kayla, how big is your Icelandic? My 16 year old gelding is 12.3 hds, large bone and weighs about 1000 lbs (guesstimate and a wee bit on the fat side) and my three year old filly is 13.3 hds, finer bone and probably weighs 750 lbs.The loose supplement they get is Southern States EquiMin which can be purchased in either block or loose form. Kayla
[IceHorses] Re: info you must know about your CDC
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, Skise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56321 Here is a link to some info you must know about the CDC THe CDC wants all newborns to have a HepB shot because they want the public to believe that Hep b is a disease that we all should worry about. You catch Hepb the same way you catch AIDS. After the vaccine was giving to hundreds of thousands of newborns the rate of Autisum increased...A LOT!. Yet the CDC still says there is no connection. After reading about how the CDC spends your money and how they behave you must come to a conclusion that the have an agenda of their own.. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56321 In 2003, taxpayers shelled out $300,000 for a conference in New Orleans that featured a workshop on how to defund abstinence education and a sexually graphic "entertainment" segment denigrating the vice president of the United States. (gay agenda?) At a 2004 conference in Thailand, attended by 150 federal employees, attendees could see a "drag" show, art shows, fashion parades and Brazilian dresses made from condoms. (gay agenda?) Your tax dollars were also at work at the 16th Annual International AIDS conference in Toronto in 2006. This conference, which cost taxpayers $315,000, included presentations designed to encourage recognition of prostitution as "legitimate legal work." To make the point, one convention center exhibit included three prostitutes lying on a satin-covered bed designed to "look like a typical workplace."(gay agenda?) Construction of a lavish new $106 million visitor center in Atlanta � the 202,000 square foot Thomas R. Harkin Global Communications Center, including a 70 by 25 foot video wall of plasma television screens and a $20 million TV studio. The previous visitor center was built in 1996. A new $109 million 325,000 square foot Arlen Specter Headquarters and Emergency Operations Center, also in Atlanta, including $9.8 million in office furniture. A state-of-the-art "Lifestyle Facility" fitness center at the CDC's Atlanta campus with free access for employees to enjoy such attributes as "zero-gravity" chairs with a mood-enhancing light show, which one employee called "very soothing," plus two "quiet rooms" and two "dry-heat saunas Yep!!! this is your CDC.. I never said I was an expert on rabies I said that I do not believe all the crap the CDC puts out.. I can go on forever about the crap that comes out of the CDC...They have an agenda. They do not want the public to be aware of who is spreading disease and they want to keep the fear of diseases like the fluMy opinion (gay agenda?) I hope some of you will take the time to look into what really the CDC is doing with your money. It seems that the press does not want to touch it eitherI wonder why? (gay agenda?) Hey, I read a lot and I try to keep informed about how my money it being spent. If everyone did, this stuff would not be happening. Chow, I am off to kiss my horses. Have a great day. jackie > Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > Yep...but who knows? If this is even a real story, who's to say he even got > > rabies from a bat? Maybe he was also collecting > > cat/skunk/fox/coyote/dog/raccoon poop - sheesh. If someone were crazy > > enough to be collecting bat poop out of caves, would you take them to be a > > credible storyteller?The whole scenario is just too bizarre to impair > > the credibility of the CDC if you ask me! > > ??? There's nothing strange about getting rabies from a bat. >
Re: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
Oh good grief! I would have hoped that old idea was dead and buried. I had a cowboy tell me once that if I was going to kick a horse in the belly, be sure to use the side of my foot, not my toe. He wasn't kidding. Another old cowboy taught me to tighten the girth slowly, one notch at a time and let the horse take a step or two before I mounted. Now that guy was both cowboy and horseman. Nancy
[IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
>>> Every major manufacture of horse feeds has a nutrionist that > will help you. Kayla, how big is your Icelandic?
RE: [IceHorses] kneeing a horse
What do you thing about kneeing a horse in the stomach while saddleing him? The girl I sold Harley to, her friend suggested it. I told her "don't you dare"! I would say, "Don't you dare!!" too. There's no reason to do that. Groom and saddle the horse. Fasten the girth. Pick out the feet. Recheck girth. In the summer, spray your fly spray. Recheck girth. Put on the bridle. Recheck girth. Walk horse out to mount. Recheck girth. Do a few minutes of groundwork if you have time, or if the horse needs it. Recheck girth. Done. It doesn't have to be in this order of course, but there are plenty of steps in getting a horse ready to ride. Usually 2-3 rechecks are all it takes, if you wait a minute or two between checks. No kneeing is required and it didn't require any delays and the same result accomplished - nicely. I haven't seen anyone do that in years...thank goodness. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:05:33 -0500, you wrote: >Here is my Jaspar's finest bling moment. WOW. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
Yes, pony hunters at the Welsh shows are also turned out very traditionally - definitely no bling. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
I noticed the same thing in the Sherrif's possee photo. It was taking a grown man to hold him down. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
i think they are afraid a rhinestone might fall off and drop onto the steel band clamped on to hold their 20 pound shoes on and then it will be like the straw that broke the camels back, just that 1/1000 oz extra weight will make the horse's whole foot fall off. gotta be it. and you gotta wonder about a world where they have padded shoeing/pressure shoeing/acid on the coronet band/mustard oil on the fetlocks but a rhinestone, oh the humanity. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] kneeing a horse
I don't condone this myself. What do you thing about kneeing a horse in the stomach while saddleing him? The girl I sold Harley to, her friend suggested it. I told her "don't you dare"! Lorraine Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] look what the cat drug in-OT
> Ah...just pour some hot fudge sauce on it and you > won't notice the > furry legs ( all 8). <;] Raven > Now that's just sick. LOL Lorraine Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
haha i just looked at that picture up close. can we spell o-v-e-r-k-i-l-l boiys and girls :0 janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
>>> manes, which of course, matched the rider's day coats - I have no idea >>> what's the latest TWH fashion, but I always thought those a bit over the >>> top. That would be SUCH a faux pas in the hunter ring! Although I think >>> I've seen some blingy browbands in the dressage catalogs lately...What IS >>> the world coming to!?! ;) it specifically says no rhinestones which is sorta ironic considering the hot pink sequined day coats janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Horse in WorldFengur?
>>>trotter mare BWT Mash and her foal + Julia, a very small stable). Fjóla has >>>been even better to handle than I expected, in a few days I'll try riding >>>her. No pictures yet, I have no idea where my camera is... i will be happy when you find your camera:) i cant believe it when people say their horses just went into the new herd all hapy. my geldings insist on beating up the newcomer for days, poor thing. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
[IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
---Thank you all for your suggestions. I noticed nobody said they give the daily wormer. Do I need to do that? Is it better to give the vitamin supplements? My guy has very strong feet and am told by the vet that he doesn't need a foot supplement. Of course here in Sunny, San Diego, CA, it is pretty much always dry and warm. This is the first horse I have owned, so I am pretty ignorant on that front. Judy F
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:02:03 -0500, you wrote: >One thing I have found with my horses is the >forelock if long, hides the bling. If the forelock hides the bling, you're just not going FAST enough!!! ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
The cavesson does suit him, but I think he would still look OK without it. I like bling, myself! Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk --- "Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes"
RE: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
I know with walking horses in english classes they are not allowed to have bling, no rhinestones etc., and nothing with a "name" on it, a barn name etc. Depends on your definition of "bling" I guess. Once upon a time, Walkers wore red, yellow, blue, turquoise, green, whatever shiny patent leather browbands with coordinating color ribbons braided into their manes, which of course, matched the rider's day coats - I have no idea what's the latest TWH fashion, but I always thought those a bit over the top. That would be SUCH a faux pas in the hunter ring! Although I think I've seen some blingy browbands in the dressage catalogs lately...What IS the world coming to!?! ;) Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Bats and CDC
??? There's nothing strange about getting rabies from a bat. Yes, that's true, but the initial story, now rescinded, was that the person got rabies from bat manure, not from a bite. My understanding is that virtually any mammal can conceivably carry rabies, although some are more likely to get it and survive the initial bite to spread it on. For instance, it's almost unheard of for a tiny mouse to carry rabies, because any carrier that would bite something so small would almost assuredly kill the tiny animal right away. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1013 - Release Date: 9/17/2007 1:29 PM
[IceHorses] Horse in WorldFengur?
Could someone who has access please check if there is a horse called Fjóla vom Wittmoor in WorldFengur. I was told that German horses often are not in WorldFengur so getting them registered here takes a longer time because registration authorities here have first to ask the Germans to put the horse in WF. Just so that I know what to expect... Anyway Fjóla traveled very well (6,5 hours) and was quite happy in her new home. Yesterday she was out with Julia (a Finnhorse) and today I think the stable owner put her out with all the horses (warmblood trotter mare BWT Mash and her foal + Julia, a very small stable). Fjóla has been even better to handle than I expected, in a few days I'll try riding her. No pictures yet, I have no idea where my camera is... Krisse in Finland
Re: [IceHorses] KY Icelandic Show -- fashion question
Vicka, I have to argue with you here - Starni does NOT have a coarse head. He's lovely! I suspect he has a very petite owner. You want to see coarse, there's the plain-headed Tosca (our house), but she has such a lovely spirit that I think of her as beautiful. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Bats and CDC
it wasnt strange about bats, bats are a common vector. It was strange about the bat POOP. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] What Are They Applauding?!?!
Jaspar sounds like Hunter. I went out by myself yesterday and we had a blast, zooming around hairpin turns at the canter. He's the most athletic horse I've ever ridden. He's never bumped me on a tree even once. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Feed and supplements
> but have to feed what I am given by the hay farmers in Virginia. My > Icelandics do not get grain because of the quality of their hay. > I use the nutrionist at Southern States to help determine my feeding > program. Every major manufacture of horse feeds has a nutrionist that > will help you. we had southern states here. I supplement with Gro Strong by alliance, loose, and we have coastal bermuda hay. I feed them about a handful of strategy twice a day so they will think they are being fed and get some vitamins. Tivar is getting fat tho! But that has been since I finally got some grass and they are turned out three days a week all day on grass. On those days I feed almost no feed and almost no hay. just entertainment only amounts. But winter is coming soon and their grass wont be so green altho I do plan to plant rye in a couple of 2 acre patches. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
