Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
--- Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well lets seeI bought Skyfaxa because her preferred gait out in the pasture is tolt... Can you send some video? That's about the only way we can see if we're all talking about the same thing. We bought Bylgia because Sally loves to ride her She loves to tolt, she looks like a war pony going off to battle when she does, it makes us smile. Again, would be great to see this in video. Just get short clips so that it's not a problem to upload (you can send them directly to me if you want and I'll edit and upload to a site). Thanks! Judy Well they are out in the Ka'u pasture right now..raising babies. I will ask my friend if her camers has a video option, mabye we can get it..Skyfaxa is not moving at a very fast rate right now, her colt is 3 months old and we lovingly refer to her as Skyfatsa...she is pretty wide. Ha! As am I. But it can be something I work on, and mabye send directly to you Judy.since where we live no one really knows what a rack is, we use the videos of Dan Slott and of one that was made in Iceland and shown I think on Discovery channel years agowe give these out to prospective buyers to gain more interest, after they watch those we have them out to ride, starting off in a round pen, then if they are actually riders, take them out on the trails..when they feel the rack out on the trails, they are sold. Everytime. Since I can not produce a video like the ones I have access to I have not made videosand have not really focused on getting our horses on film..people come over and they can feel it for themselves when they ride. Infact, right now we have a shortage of riding horses to sell...there are 2 people who live here who probably will go over to the mainland to purchase other icelandics.1 friend will go to Robyns place, as he has taken clinics there before, and the other friend will go to S. California in September, and would like to go horse shopping then Marketing in an area that is so cowboy, quarterhorsey can be difficult.but we are making headway with the people whop are looking for something differentpeople who want to ride and have fun...we have Icelandics in every district now.its pretty exciting. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
colt is 3 months old and we lovingly refer to her as Skyfatsa... That's funny! But it can be something I work on, and mabye send directly to you Judy. Yes, that would be fine. I can edit them and upload them somewhere for you. Oh, that reminds me, we're going to have a place on the website where Icelandic owners can have their own pages to upload pictures and videos!! We could put them there, under your farm name. since where we live no one really knows what a rack is, we use the videos of Dan Slott and of one that was made in Iceland and shown I think on Discovery channel years ago Since I can not produce a video like the ones I have access to I have not made videosand have not really focused on getting our horses on film..people come over and they can feel it for themselves when they ride. making headway with the people who are looking for something differentpeople who want to ride and have fun I can help you do something, video-wise. I think it would be much better to show a horse that gaits naturally, and without the tight nosebands, in a manner that's mainstream trail riding, than to expose potential buyers to the professional videos Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
Oh, that reminds me, we're going to have a place on the website where Icelandic owners can have their own pages to upload pictures and videos!! We could put them there, under your farm name. That will be really nice. Let us know when its ready. I can help you do something, video-wise. I think it would be much better to show a horse that gaits naturally, and without the tight nosebands, in a manner that's mainstream trail riding, than to expose potential buyers to the professional videos Judy That would be cool.Sally rides Bylgia up at our pasture, and Funi here at our farm.both gait nicely...Bylgia she has had for 5 years and can ride her very well without much tack, Funi she is still getting to know, and is already thinking of ways to start changing his bit.and she has tried every saddle on him, to no avail, so we have ordered another saddle, we are hoping it will fit him. getting a new horse, means going through the tack thing all over again. Skyfaxa, well she will be moved to our farm in the beginning of September and will not be suitable for filming untill I would say a couple of months after that.she still looks 11 months pregnate! So does Dis for that matter! The other 2 are fineas the babies...I will edit a photo cd I have of our babies.we have some good shots of 2 of skyfaxa babies together, they are both silver dapple, one is a brown silver dapple, he looks like a leopard, there are so many distinct dapples, and the other one is a black silver dapple, very striking together. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
[IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
a wonderful runningwalk is not what they, or I for that matter are breeding for. I want a good clear tolt/rack...in my Icelandics, now if they have other easy gaits, I would be fine riding them, but it is not what I am breeding for, Skye, how do you define tolt, and what do you look for in your breeding horses? I'm not looking for a generic answer such as I get a stallion that tolts, and breed it to a mare that tolts. I'm looking for more specifics in conformation, gait, etc. Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
Well lets seeI bought Skyfaxa because her preferred gait out in the pasture is tolt... Can you send some video? That's about the only way we can see if we're all talking about the same thing. We bought Bylgia because Sally loves to ride her She loves to tolt, she looks like a war pony going off to battle when she does, it makes us smile. Again, would be great to see this in video. Just get short clips so that it's not a problem to upload (you can send them directly to me if you want and I'll edit and upload to a site). Thanks! Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
On 02/07/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] We bought Bylgia because Sally loves to ride hershe has a totally different build, she is from kolkousi/Akuyreri, so her build is thick and stocky, shorter neck, but it still comes into the shoulder nicly. She loves to tolt, she looks like a war pony going off to battle when she does, it makes us smile. If she came from Robyn's...I think I rode her. Yes, she's lovely. Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
a wonderful runningwalk is not what they, or I for that matter are breeding for. I want a good clear tolt/rack...in my Icelandics, now if they have other easy gaits, I would be fine riding them, but it is not what I am breeding for, what is this tolt. define it? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
Hi Wanda and stocky, shorter neck, but it still comes into the shoulder nicly. She loves to tolt, she looks like a war pony going off to battle when she does, it makes us smile. If she came from Robyn's...I think I rode her. Yes, she's lovely. She didn't come from us - it might be Brynja you were thinking about. Robyn Icelandic Horse Farm Robyn Hood Phil Pretty Vernon BC Canada www.icefarm.com
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a wonderful runningwalk is not what they, or I for that matter are breeding for. I want a good clear tolt/rack...in my Icelandics, now if they have other easy gaits, I would be fine riding them, but it is not what I am breeding for, what is this tolt. define it? Janice-- I believe there is a whole discussion on that very question.look in Lees book page 26, saddle rack and true rack.I do make up the definations, nor do I get into every split second detail of every step. I know that the horses I ride and own are naturally gaited, they can rack/tolt with ease, with no force, no heavy contacttooo much work. And 5 of them are from world champions and 1st prize stallions.we have oner mare on island that I sold who is much like Skyfaxa, her preferred gait is toltshe can tolt with her head almost touching the ground or up highits weird, she just gaits so nicly with ease. Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
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On 02/07/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She didn't come from us - it might be Brynja you were thinking about. Brynja...yes of course. Wanda
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If she came from Robyn's...I think I rode her. Yes, she's lovely. Thanks Wanda. Real words mean more to me than pedigrees rattled off. Karen Thomas, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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i went to someones house once to see their new WGC bloodline walking horse. they said it had a cadillac glide ride running walk. When I got there I didnt know how to break it to her that the pronging display tail flag thing all horses do was not a runningwalk bless her heart. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
On 7/2/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so to you a tolt is rack. Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
RE: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
Dis, well we bought her because of different reasonswe like how fluid her movements areshe is built nicly, she shows tolt out in the field, but canter seems to be her favorite gait...she will canter a lot then go down into a tolt. I'm not so sure about that - are you saying that the mare favors canter over one of the mid-range gaits? I don't think I've ever seen a horse who doesn't have a preferred trot-speed gait, be that a trot, pace, or something in the middle...? A playful foal maybe, but a mature Icelandic mare...? Her action again is not high. Do you think action affects gaitedness...? Karen Thomas, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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at the horse show they kept saying lope your horse, lope. and after about ten classes my husband turns to me and says why do they keep saying rope your horse and nobody does anything?? HAHAHAHA. but in AQHA showing, lope means a canter so slow it appears the horse is for all intents and purposes completely crippled, limping lame. just for some reason that came to mind. My Jaspar's lope is so elegant, majestic even. but ever now and then he will have a snit fit and do a little head snake at the canter. Maybe the saddle pinches just then or something. Since he is a horse no saddle on the planet fits. n-o-n-e none. but when he head snakes people will sometimes see it and go ohhh! Mister jaspar is fired UP today! and i will go yeah, for him he's just about berserk... Janice-- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
--- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/2/07, Skye and Sally ~Fire Island [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so to you a tolt is rack. Janice-- That is what has been pushed here on this listand on page 239 of Lees book. Skye If I am mistaken, then please what is the correct American term for these horses? Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
RE: [IceHorses] Breeding for Tolt
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dis, well we bought her because of different reasonswe like how fluid her movements areshe is built nicly, she shows tolt out in the field, but canter seems to be her favorite gait...she will canter a lot then go down into a tolt. I'm not so sure about that - are you saying that the mare favors canter over one of the mid-range gaits? I don't think I've ever seen a horse who doesn't have a preferred trot-speed gait, be that a trot, pace, or something in the middle...? A playful foal maybe, but a mature Icelandic Well she seems to canter more than all the othersthen she goes down into tolt from canter mare...? Her action again is not high. Do you think action affects gaitedness...? Karen Thomas, NC No I do not think it affects it, but for us we are wanting to breed ground covering trail horses, we do not want high action, though I think it looks pretty and flashy, its not what I am breeding for. BAldur fra Bakka who is here has high action, yet is one of the smoothest horses I have ever ridden, with a perfect 4 beat tolt Skye Fire Island Farms Breeding Quality Icelandic Trail Horses Certified Farrier Services 'Natural Balance' Shoeing and Trimming. Founder, Navicular options for your horse. 808-640-6080
