[IceHorses] Re: speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Monica
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy  Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> owned Icelandics since last Januray.  However, I do own an off-track
> Standardbred who paced at the track.  He has learned to trot at
least part
> of the time, but his hard race track pace is a very unpleasant gait
to ride.

My Stbd raced two years, never won. Had him now for eight years.He has
a great trot! And an awful pace, usually out of the canter when he
can't get the canter together properly. I have ridden other Stbds with
a smooth pace though.



>  We
> can't seem to find the right job for him.  His role in our lives may
simply
> to make us smile.

Mine can have a nasty attitude at times towards other horses, but we
all love him dearly. I have done some CTR with him, my daughter has
jumped him and I drive and trail ride him mostly now. He is amazingly
athletic and sure footed on trails; and when I went out with my mother
on a trail ride trying out Icelandics, she kept telling me how great
and wonderful they are ( she is the one that really wanted one, I had
never been exposed to them before).All I could say was that I have one
at home in the barn that can do all that!.

Long story short, we bought two Icelandics,  3.5 years old, a gelding
and a mare. Just doing ground work and longlining with them, but will
start training them next spring. I do have to say they are really
sweet and I am enjoying having them, just wish my big horses would be
a bit kinder to them - I still have to keep them  apart in paddocks
with space between them. Hopefully some day they can all be one big
happy family.

Monica Lamothe
Ontario





RE: [IceHorses] Re: speed racking video

2007-10-02 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> being new to Icelandics I am trying to follow some of the videos, though
it is almost exhausting as we are on dial up.


Welcome to the list, Monica!


 Please correct me if I am getting this wrong. I own a Stbd that can
pace. The pace is a bilateral gait, two beat. Is the toelt not the same as a
rack,a four beat gait, just different wording for a different breed? So when
I watch this video, I see a foot hitting the ground not at the same time as
the other foot on the same side, to me that looks more like a rack/toelt
than a pace?


Yep, in a way you're right.  The flying pace isn't a pure two beat pace
though - more of a broken pace, which sort of makes it between a pace and a
rack.  In footfalls, it's about the same as stepping-pace, just much faster.
So, since the gait is between pace and rack, and not exactly either, some
breeds call it "speed rack" while in Icelandic terminology, it's "flying
pace."  Flying pace/speed rack is a four-beat gait - but it's not an even
four beat gait, like a true rack.  Does that help?   You're on the right
track, very close.


Do you have Lee Ziegler's book, Easy-Gaited Horses?  It's a tremendous
resource, and only about $14 or so at amazon.com.  It's money well spent - I
use mine all the time.


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] Re: speed racking video

2007-10-02 Thread Nancy Sturm
Monica, I am not a good person to answer this question since I have only
owned Icelandics since last Januray.  However, I do own an off-track
Standardbred who paced at the track.  He has learned to trot at least part
of the time, but his hard race track pace is a very unpleasant gait to ride.

Others have told me that the Icelandic's  flying pace is different from the
hard pace that Standardbreds execute at the track.

We love this horse.  He is the sweetest thing on the face of the earth.  We
can't seem to find the right job for him.  His role in our lives may simply
to make us smile.

Nancy



[IceHorses] Re: speed racking video

2007-10-02 Thread Monica
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> 
> One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack"
isn't a
> REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop,
> whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack.  
> 
> 


Hi,

being new to Icelandics I am trying to follow some of the videos,
though it is almost exhausting as we are on dial up.
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong. I own a Stbd that can
pace. The pace is a bilateral gait, two beat. Is the toelt not the
same as a rack,a four beat gait, just different wording for a
different breed? So when I watch this video, I see a foot hitting the
ground not at the same time as the other foot on the same side, to me
that looks more like a rack/toelt than a pace?

Monica Lamothe
Ontario