RE: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Karen Thomas
 Lucky lucky horse to come to live with you.  I don't get the horse in a 
 stall thing.  A friend, Amber of the Amber Adventures, went to visit the TWH
that was Hunter's sire.  He apparently never left his stall - the owner 
wouldn't bring him out - and he was knee-deep in manure.


It's sad that's the way it is for a lot of stallions.  My farrier bred QH for 
probably 30+ years.  He lost his favorite old stallion about 2-3 years ago - 
the stallion was 34.  He lived outside his whole life, and even at the end he 
lived with one of his old favorite broodmares, who was no longer cycling.  He 
alternately lived with some young stallions, the pregnant mares he'd bred, or 
with some geldings.  When I brought Melnir home, he gave me a serious lecture 
about how I should NEVER let the stallion cycle begin with Melnir.  Any horse 
who is kept up in a stall for extended periods will go a little stir crazy - 
just like we might, if we're forced to stay inside for a period of bad weather. 
 If you add the pent-up energy to a stallion who will inevitably have seasonal 
hormonal surges, and then who is often only brought out to have sex, and it 
becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  The stallion WILL be unruly and hard to 
handle.  Once it gets to that point, it's harder to break the cycle - not 
impossible, but not without some danger.  


Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 14/11/2007, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I brought Melnir home, he gave me a serious lecture about how I
should NEVER let the stallion cycle begin with Melnir.  Any horse
who is kept up in a stall for extended periods will go a little stir
crazy

Well...on one side of me I have a neighbour who is a 'breeder' and his
stallion lives outside but in a small paddockyou can see him
pacing back and forth, day after day, week after week.  On the other
side of me I have a man who 'trains' race horses.  He's a huge guy.
The other day while I was walking out to feed he was riding past on a
youngster he just brought home and actually stood up in the saddle to
stop him, and nearly flipped the horse over backward.  I've seen some
awful riding...but never as bad as what I've seen him do.  He's
terrible.

It's hard watching this stuff.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Janice McDonald
On 11/13/07, Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  here is my Fox the day I decided I had to buy him.  These pictures were 
  taken just a half hour when he had just been brought out of a dark 10x10 
  stall for the first time in six years.


 Totally unstarted under saddle, right?  And a stallion?




yes and now I look at these pics and marvel, whatever possessed me to
think a horse that had been caged for years like that would first
appreciate having his hair and nails done to perfection before being
allowed turnout
Janice

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Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Janice McDonald
I wonder if it helped any that fox had never ever been bred.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo


RE: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice 
here is Fox's uncle Smoke.  He has been in a stall 18 years

What a tribute to his good character that he is so nice in spite of being
stalled for so long.  

About 20 years ago I bought an Icelandic stallion from a breeder who had
kept him in a stall for the most part of three years and I don't think the
stall had ever been cleaned - he was almost to the ceiling.  We kept him in
a large paddock and then eventually out with the herd of geldings and
another stallion - he seemed to me to be so grateful (my interpretation) and
was a very sweet horse.

Robyn

Icelandic Horse Farm 
Robyn Hood  Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
 
  



RE: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Karen Thomas
 yes and now I look at these pics and marvel, whatever possessed me to 
 think a horse that had been caged for years like that would first 
 appreciate having his hair and nails done to perfection before being 
 allowed turnout  Janice


Yes, Janice, I'd have to agree - but what sets you apart is that you have the 
good sense to look back and marvel that your past actions - too many people 
just keep going, doing the same thing over and over!  


I think most of us enjoy The Janice Parables...:)


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-14 Thread Laree Shulman
On 11/13/07, Nancy  Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lucky lucky horse to come to live with you.  I don't get the horse in a
 stall thing.  A friend, Amber of the Amber Adventures, went to visit the TWH
 that was Hunter's sire.  He apparently never left his stall - the owner
 wouldn't bring him out - and he was knee-deep in manure.


At a barn where I boarded the Barn owner had a foal born that she kept
in a stall for the first year of it's life - never turned out even in
a paddock.  She had a foal the year before that had broken its leg in
the pasture so she thought the stall thing was the way to keep it
safe.  I did everything I could to convince her to get that baby out
of the stall but was never successful - it just killed me.

-- 
Laree in NC
Doppa  Mura
Simon, Sadie and Sam (the S gang)

Yet when all the books have been read and reread, it boils down to
the horse, his human companion, and what goes on between them.  -
William Farley


Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Janice McDonald
I'll have you know he is a fat grullo circus pony.  his thighs chafe
when he waddles.
Janice
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yipie tie yie yo


Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Lorraine

 
 Here are a couple of Janice's homely horses, that
 disgusting eye-sore she
 calls Fox, and the little faded black circus pony
 called Nasi ;)
 

I would be embarrased to call them my own.  LOL  They
are so cute

  Lorraine


  

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Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Both horses are beautiful, but Fox is just breath taking.

Nancy


RE: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Karen Thomas
 Both horses are beautiful, but Fox is just breath taking.


Janice has some pretty horses, but Fox has to be one of the prettiest horses
I've ever seen.  And to know the stories behind each of them makes them even
more special.


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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RE: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Karen Thomas
 here is my Fox the day I decided I had to buy him.  These pictures were 
 taken just a half hour when he had just been brought out of a dark 10x10 
 stall for the first time in six years. 


Totally unstarted under saddle, right?  And a stallion? 


Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] That homely Fox...

2007-11-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Lucky lucky horse to come to live with you.  I don't get the horse in a
stall thing.  A friend, Amber of the Amber Adventures, went to visit the TWH
that was Hunter's sire.  He apparently never left his stall - the owner
wouldn't bring him out - and he was knee-deep in manure.

Nancy