[IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
"Le tolt" looks like "Le Hard Pace"! The ride doesn't look smooth, that's for sure. Trish
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
when jas does a steppin pace my bosoms dont jump like that, and believe me, my bosoms are so big they would bruise both my chin and my knees if they started jumping around like that. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
maybe it is a nice tolt and she just needs a good bra desperately. My Jaspar can do a body slamming teeth crackin hard pace. I dont even allow him to do it because it CANT be that easy on his frame. I either bump him up to a canter or back to a walk, as appropriate. But I once allowed a friend to ride him that had taken years of formal dressage training as a child/teen, always on lesson horses, and she had never ridden a gaited horse. After the ride she told me "I believe he has the roughest trot I have ever seen in any horse." haha. I told her he had never trotted in his life... i wonder what jas thought about her posting his hard pace... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Renee Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't it funny that no matter what these Icelandics do > beyond trot (or > canter) it gets labelled tolt nearly every time? That's because anything other than tolt is unacceptable. They must have just put up a video that was "a bad moment in time"...hehehe Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
--- On Mon, 7/14/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-chestnut-icelandic-horse.html >> << Looks like a step pace to me - almost a hard pace in spots because she is pushing him for too much speed. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
Other than one little place where he starts to break into a canter, he seems to be doing various kinds of a pace. For a bit I saw the true hard pace Twist does, but the rider is handling it pretty well, so maybe a very fast stepping pace? Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
- Original Message - From: "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-chestnut-icelandic-horse.html Well, it ain't "le tolt". . . . at least to my eyes. That horse moves much as our Rose did when motivated. So, I'm inclined to call it hard pace, piggy pace, whatever -- just pace, pace, pace. Isn't it funny that no matter what these Icelandics do beyond trot (or canter) it gets labelled tolt nearly every time? -- Renee M. up in Michigan
[IceHorses] What Gait / Chestnut Icelandic
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Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Gaited Mule
Judy Ryder wrote: > Did you see where the rider had his arms up in the air to show he > wasn't holding the reins? Yes! And I thought that was so nice to see. That little mule is so darn cute and so knows it. I love her. Elva
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Gaited Mule
>> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-gaited-mule.html >> > Is she doing a stepping pace Judy?I think she's grand, no matter what > gait. She's doing a stepping pace in the beginning. I get the feeling that she is protecting her feet from the asphalt by going more lateral and flatter. When she steps out in the sand, she gets more square. Did you see where the rider had his arms up in the air to show he wasn't holding the reins? In the first part, he probably could have cranked her up, weighted her fronts, and got a flashier rack, but I would guess that she's more of a "using" horse, so no need to go there. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com <>
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Gaited Mule
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-gaited-mule.html > > Is she doing a stepping pace Judy?I think she's grand, no matter what gait. A mule like her is on my bucket list too. I will not live long enough I think . . . : ) -- Renee M. up in Michigan
[IceHorses] What Gait / Gaited Mule
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-gaited-mule.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> I should send you all a video some time of my offtrack Standardbred. > in harness he never does anything other than hard pace. That would be neat to have a video of that. Also, we need more video of horses moving directly towards the camera to evaluate the legs and movement (any breed will do); can anyone get some video for us? Thanks! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
I would say that this horse is close to hard pacing with the saddle; without the saddle the timing of the laterals is broken up a little more. I should send you all a video some time of my offtrack Standardbred. He does the most awful hard pace imaginable. Although he does trot, stepping pace and canter under saddle, in harness he never does anything other than hard pace. It was really drilled into him. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
>> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html > > A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. This is what I posted about #2: "Great video! and nice job on the slo-mo! I would say that this horse is close to hard pacing with the saddle; without the saddle the timing of the laterals is broken up a little more. Notice the rider bouncing with the use of the saddle, but stiller without the saddle. I would check out saddle fit on this beautiful horse; maybe try treeless. Also check the bit fit." Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html >> This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON >> the only gaited horses I ever get to see. A guess would be #1 flat walk >> and #2 stepping pace. I always have trouble seeing the pairing of legs on black horses, so I'm not sure about #1. I think there may be a little more diagonal than even timing, so I think maybe it's more foxwalk or slow foxtrot. I'm not going to swear though. One good clue is that there's some head nod, but you can see that in either flat walk or foxtrot/foxwalk.(You can also see a "V" head motion in a stepping pace, but this looks to me to be more of an up-and-down nod...?) I like both gaits, so I wouldn't quibble with a horse that gives me either of his own accord, especially on a loose rein. The second one I agree with you on - and I think it's a pretty pacey step-pace at that. When I see a horse pacing like that, the first thing I want to do is check his saddle fit! Anyway, I don't think you are way off base - you may well be closer than I am. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
2008/7/13 Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON the > only gaited horses I ever get to see. It IS hard Nancy. I really have to study these things too. > A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. I thought #1 started out as a flat walk, maybe transitioning into a running walk? And then into a trot.. #2 I thought was stepping pace as wellat least the first part of the video, I didn't have a chance to watch it all the way through. Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> Here are two different Rocky Mountain Horses; what gait(s): > > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html > > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html This is still so hard for me - slow learner or perhaps because I am ON the only gaited horses I ever get to see. A guess would be #1 flat walk and #2 stepping pace. Would someone please post the correct answer - it helps me to learn. Nancy
[IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
Here are two different Rocky Mountain Horses; what gait(s): http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse.html http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-gait-rocky-mountain-horse-2.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
--- On Sun, 7/6/08, Skise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many 5-gaited horses tölt just fine but need the weights > to trot. Why? I would guess that is poor breeding, then, or maybe a horse being pushed to do things it is not really capable of doing. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
RE: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
Hi Krisse >>>Many 5-gaited horses tölt just fine but need the weights to trot. Like one riding instructor/horse trainer said about my Fjóla when we were talking about her weak trot: "But she's 5-gaited, she doesn't have to trot without weighted boots". That is true but over the years we have found that it is better overall for the horse to teach them trot without boots. We have found that by working with the balance and body flexibility using Connected Groundwork that most of the horses with little trot without boots or shoes, found the trot very well. We used to put slightly heavier shoes on the front feet, pretty common practice. The thing I think that can happen is that there is extra stress on the fetlock joints with even a little extra weight and you can have bilateral lameness that often goes unrecognized but can show up in behavior. I think, if you are going to add some weight to the front legs, it is probably better to do so with boots than by constantly wearing heavier shoes, because the boots come off.. Robyn
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: > > > > Nor me. When judging you would call it a "4-beat trot" and mark it > > down accordingly if it's consistent. I would guess, looking at the > > heavy boots and the conformation of the horse, that he's 5-gaited, > > prefers lateral gaits, doesn't trot easily and goes quickly onto the > > forehand. > > > How about the use of the weights for the tolt and how they affect the trot? > Many 5-gaited horses tölt just fine but need the weights to trot. Like one riding instructor/horse trainer said about my Fjóla when we were talking about her weak trot: "But she's 5-gaited, she doesn't have to trot without weighted boots". Krisse
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 07:58:13 -0700, you wrote: >How about the use of the weights for the tolt and how they affect the trot? In theory they should help a pacey horse to trot, and improve the tolt if it's pacey too. However if a horse is really hard-wired towards lateral gaits then it may not be able to trot cleanly no matter how much weight you put on the front feet. I've had a few like that over the years - they simply could not trot at all. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
> Nor me. When judging you would call it a "4-beat trot" and mark it > down accordingly if it's consistent. I would guess, looking at the > heavy boots and the conformation of the horse, that he's 5-gaited, > prefers lateral gaits, doesn't trot easily and goes quickly onto the > forehand. How about the use of the weights for the tolt and how they affect the trot? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:55:36 -0400, you wrote: >So, I don't think it's literally any previously >named gait. Nor me. When judging you would call it a "4-beat trot" and mark it down accordingly if it's consistent. I would guess, looking at the heavy boots and the conformation of the horse, that he's 5-gaited, prefers lateral gaits, doesn't trot easily and goes quickly onto the forehand. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk ---
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
>>> Let's try this one: http://www.pbase.com/milsoft/image/83650548 It's diagonal, but a true trot shouldn't show a single-foot support phase like this shows. The front leg of the diagonal pair is already planted ahead of the opposite rear...but a foxtrot shouldn't have a single foot support phase either.So, I don't think it's literally any previously named gait. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
> > What gait is this horse doing? > > > Let's try this one: > > http://www.pbase.com/milsoft/image/83650548 > I'm going to say impure trot - not 4 beat enough to be a fox trot, but not a trot, either. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
> What gait is this horse doing? Let's try this one: http://www.pbase.com/milsoft/image/83650548 Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What gait is this horse doing? > > http://i.pbase.com/g6/86/758586/2/83650548.isjRcpLX.jpg Oops, it's is forbidden. The "enemy" must be embarrased about it! Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
[IceHorses] What Gait / Black Icelandic
What gait is this horse doing? http://i.pbase.com/g6/86/758586/2/83650548.isjRcpLX.jpg Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / Melkolka
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-gait-melkolka-icelandic-horse.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / Pinto TWH
http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-gait-pinto-twh.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Jersey
I wonder if there are paces and paces. The harness horses in an earlier gait video were doing the rolling hard pace our retired harness horse does. This mare looks much smmother and I think I'm seeing more of a broken or stepping pace. When Twist does this, we celebrate. It really is not unpleasant to ride. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Jersey
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here are two videos of a grade mare: > > http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-gait-jersey.html Step pace - almost pure pace. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/
[IceHorses] What Gait / Jersey
Here are two videos of a grade mare: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-gait-jersey.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / TWH in Belgium
>>> http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-in-belgium.html Walking for the most part. I'd say mostly flat walking, with some regular walking and maybe a couple of short parts that might have been running walk. I think I also saw one brief glimpse of step pace, where she changed his direction and he seemed a little resistant. Overall, that's a lovely horse - reminds me of Blaze, a gorgeous palomino TWH pleasure horse that my buddy down the road owned when we were kids. Good for the rider for not pushing the speed too. It's always best to let the horse get really comfortable in his gait(s) before asking for more speed. Many nicely gaited horses will step pace (or hard pace) if pushed too fast, or if they lose their relaxation, and it would be a shame to rush this horse past his nice natural gaits. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / TWH in Belgium
What gait for this Tennesee Walking Horse in Belgium: Because he's got such a head nod going, I want to say running walk, but I thought I saw ordinary walk, flat walk and running walk. The rider is sure using her left hand agressively. I think she's trying to keep him on the rail, but I'd rather use my inside leg. Nancy
[IceHorses] What Gait / TWH in Belgium
What gait for this Tennesee Walking Horse in Belgium: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-tennessee-walker-in-belgium.html or http://gaited-hrose.blogspot.com Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / McCurdy Horse
>>> > http://www.mccurdyhorses.com/ Here are still images taken from the video: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-mccurdy-horse.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What gait...
2008/4/27 Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GX28hSLAfQ > I think it needs a tiny bit more speed for flat walk. I've got to get that GPS. I'll see if I can get some video of the boys moving out a bit more... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What gait...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GX28hSLAfQ I think it needs a tiny bit more speed for flat walk. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What gait...
>> If this is a flat walk, can I expect that eventually Dagur will be able to >> perform a >> running walk? If I understood what Liz explained, I think it's more that virtually all gaited horses should be able to flat walk, but some may not be able to run walk. >> Does anyone have a video of a running walk? I would like to see it. I'll look through some videos - I should have one of Trausti run walking, but if Cary was the cameraman...well, you know how that goes. Here are a couple of Trausti flat walking, as identified by Liz Graves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU-RAUy1RPI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCYZulUyrw0 - sorry, I was trying to shoo him around and video at the same time so it's not the best video. Trausti seems to prefer running walk over any other gait, but I also have a husband who prefers not to catch some of the best gaits on film... Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] What gait...
Well it's sort of a what gait video. I'm still wrapping my head around the walk. I took this video this afternoon and it shows pretty clearly what a lovely ground covering walk Dagur has. For those of you that know running walk, etc. Is this what could be considered a flat walk? If this is a flat walk, can I expect that eventually Dagur will be able to perform a running walk? Does anyone have a video of a running walk? I would like to see it. Anyway...here's the noodle video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GX28hSLAfQ Wanda -- Thoughts become things...
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait Hunter
But wow, what beautiful scenery, but the gravel roads? You'd need either pads or boots to protect the soles. Not only were there many miles of rocky gravel roads, some of the trails were solid rock. The entry form suggested pads. We decided to go with Bosana boots, then had trouble with them and just carried two easy boots, which we didn't use. The horses did fine. We did slow down over the rocks. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait Hunter
>I suppose we'll have to go with multi-gaited. :-) You're going to have to get a video for us, Nancy! Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait Hunter
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose we'll have to go with multi-gaited. > I'm going to have to go with 2 pics trotting, and the one head on, probably a step pace. But wow, what beautiful scenery, but the gravel roads? You'd need either pads or boots to protect the soles. Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Koko
Nice horse nicely ridden. We see a few Missouri Foxtrotters out doing endurance. I am nearly always very impressed. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Koko
What a great obstacle course and a handy little horse Oh, yeah, the gait at the beginning: I'd say a smooth stepping pace. -- Renee M. in Michigan
[IceHorses] What Gait / Koko
A Missouri Fox Trotter: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-koko.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
> I wonder what this guy could do with a saddle that actually fit? and a loose rein. He needs his head down I think! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
2008/4/24 Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? You know Judy, I went back searching for this pic this morningsomething about the picture snagged my attention. I believe the horse is doing pure pace...nothing much broken about it. However, look at the saddle, doesn't that look a bit 'perched' to you? I wonder what this guy could do with a saddle that actually fit? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
> > Here's something to think about... what gait would this horse do naturally? > well, actually, thats why I was so wrong in guessing gait :) Because teev, when he does a flatwalk sorta prancey thing, his head goes up and in his shadow he looks like this horse. So based on that, and based on how a hollow trot feels horrible and teevs trottiness does not, its nice and smooth, and based on how the feet on this side are kinda forming a vee, I said foxtrot, even tho the feet on the other side were perfectly together like a pace. So based on how Teevs head kinda comes up and he gets real prancey when he flatwalks and Liz said it was a foxwalk, I bet this horse would do a foxtrot, but realistically tho, based on factual evidence, he would probably do a saddlerack since a saddle rack is more toward the pace side of things. But he sure does a frame like Teev, and Teev is not pacey at all. ever. and he jukes along all perky with his head up and butt up like this horse. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another very pacey stepping pace, almost pure pace. > And obviously too slow > to be anywhere near "flying" - probably the kind of > pace that many > traditionalists would hiss "piggy pace." oohhh, nnn! don't tell the owner what her horse is doing! This is someone who would eat a piggy pacer!! ;-) Susan in NV read my blog to see why I ride my horse in pink: http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Maja
Here's the video of Maja: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what.html and here are some stills from the video: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/check-out-my-slide-show.html I won't comment, since I know her and I know her gaits, but I hope some others will take a stab... :) Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
> Here's something to think about... what gait would this horse do naturally? > > I really have no idea. . . Maybe he could be worked over to a running walk if allowed his head (to be lower)?? -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
>>> What gait on this horse: >>> http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL >>> PROTECTED]/476518960/in/set-72157600166926646/ Another very pacey stepping pace, almost pure pace. And obviously too slow to be anywhere near "flying" - probably the kind of pace that many traditionalists would hiss "piggy pace." Karen Thomas, NC
[IceHorses] What Gait / Maja
Here's the video of Maja: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what.html and here are some stills from the video: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/check-out-my-slide-show.html Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
What gait on this horse: http://flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/476518960/in/set-72157600166926646/ Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
does he seem not so hollow tho? Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
>>> This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is >>> this horse doing? Pace that might be slightly broken by the time the lateral pairs set down. Nice that there's no noseband, but she's still got a grip on those reins - certainly not doing anything in that second to encourage "long and low". Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
Well, that's pretty lateral looking, but since the front and hind legs on the left side don't seem to be at the same place in their flight, I will guess stepping pace. If the legs on the left side end up striking together, then hard pace. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
On 24/04/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? Looks pretty pacey to mestepping pace? Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Old Picture
On 4/24/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a picture from an old "Tolt" magazine from Europe. What gait is > this horse doing? > fox trot. why does everything look like a foxtrot to me lately?? it would be so short as to almost be a piaffe tho! the back seems rounded altho the neck is ewed and a little high. I bet it is a fox-walk. Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
[IceHorses] What Gait / Florida Cracker Horse
I've set up this blog for our "what gait" videos. http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/ Here's the post for the Florida Cracker Horse: http://gaited-horse.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-gait-florida-cracker-horse.html If you have a blog, you can login and leave a comment there. If you don't have a blog, it's easy to get one at http://blogger.com Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / Rusty
There's three different clips in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_yoTfQJuAjA Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse 2
> Here's a second video of the same horse: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebwKlvzJLs > > What gait in this one? > Isn't it a running walk, or very, very close to a running walk? -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse 2
Here's a second video of the same horse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebwKlvzJLs What gait in this one? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
On 11/04/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are both very observant! > > Watch the difference in push-off between the left hind and the right hind. I don't know...to me it looks like his left front is off... Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse was lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. I think you're onto something. Normally, when I see that much head action in a gaited horse, I first think of the bit or a pinching saddle, but since he was ridden bareback and with no bit, that can't be it. It wasn't a "head nod" that is a good thing with running walk or foxtrot - as you noted, it wasn't rhythmic. It's like what I saw in his feet wasn't the same story I saw in the rider's bouncing and in his head/body language. Maybe he's just really green, multigaited and is simply shifting gaits trying to find his balance...? It's nice to see a horse so naturally gaited, but I'd like to know more about what's going on. If he's really young and just under saddle, maybe it's not a big deal, but it sure left me with questions. If he IS that green and still finding his balance, I'd like to see more plain old regular walk before asking for gait. Karen Thomas, NC
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
>> It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little >> different >> about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be >> bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm > > I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse > was > lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, > but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or > maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. You are both very observant! Watch the difference in push-off between the left hind and the right hind. He goes along just fine and level on the left push, but the right push is different and throws the momentum more upwards, which is where the rider is bouncing. Having the white line fence behind is good for relativity in the levelness. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> Hey, did anyone else notice on the previous "what gait" horse -- an > Icelandic that foxtrotted -- that his tail undulated just like it would in > tolt? I've never seen that going on with a foxtrot before. The rack / saddle rack and fox trot are the gaits that the horse's tail waves like that. It's because of the similar hock action in the gaits. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
> It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little different > about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be > bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm I watched this video over and over. I sort of wanted to think the horse was lame. The rider is coming up off his back and his head is really bobbing, but not in a nice rhythmic way. It's either resistance or discomfort. Or maybe every time she bounces, it hurts his back and he bobs his head. Nancy
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Rocky Mountain Horse
It looks like a rack (tolt), but there's something just a little different about it that I can't put my finger on. The rider also seems to be bouncing a bit more than usual. . . Hmmm Hey, did anyone else notice on the previous "what gait" horse -- an Icelandic that foxtrotted -- that his tail undulated just like it would in tolt? I've never seen that going on with a foxtrot before. -- Renee M. in Michigan.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Trek Horse
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YihiiWKFKH8 > Looks like a step pace to me. Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[IceHorses] What Gait / Trek Horse
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Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
> > I hated the way the guy kept making the horse turn so suddenly and > sharply -- seemed kinda extreme and rude to the horse. > > Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's sort of a stock horse "thing". This horse really does it pretty > nicely and the rider is tactful with his rein handling. Some horses learn > to do this with the very minimum of rein contact and act like they enjoy it. Hi Nancy, Okay. . . But given the amount of tail swishing and ear pinning this horse did, I don't think he enjoyed it, although you are right -- it didn't appear the rider had to exert much "force" or pressure to turn the horse in this manner. -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another Mangalarga Marchador: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on2e0QKe6a4 > I say definately a saddle rack. I liked it untill the guy went from standing on the horse's back and dropped to the saddle. Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
>>> I've been studying the slo-mo and it seems to be wavering between >>> stepping pace and saddle rack. I believe that's likely. I didn't take the time to freeze-frame, but just looking at the non-leg clues: the rider's seat is not leaving the saddle at all, and the horse looks extremely smooth to ride. But, you can see a slight side-to-side motion in the rider's upper body. Whatever you call it, that sort of lateral gait is a long way from hard pace, and can be a great gait to ride - that's one of those spots where I sure wouldn't quibble whether someone calls it step-pace or saddle rack. He holds it for long periods too - I saw him break gait a few times, but not many. >>> Considering that some horses can't turn like that, I think the horse did >>> a really good job at it with no logging on the reins or head by the >>> rider. Yes, but even so, abrupt turns like that are hard on a horse's joints. Even non-abrupt turns can be hard on his body, so it bothers me to see it ridden like that purposely. Looks like a very nice horse to me, at least from what I can see in the video. I watched this on my teeny-tiny laptop screen. The reins look slack, and I don't see any shanks on the bit. Is that a snaffle? Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
I hated the way the guy kept making the horse turn so suddenly and sharply -- seemed kinda extreme and rude to the horse. That's sort of a stock horse "thing". This horse really does it pretty nicely and the rider is tactful with his rein handling. Some horses learn to do this with the very minimum of rein contact and act like they enjoy it. Maybe to them it's a little like pasture play. I had a 16 h hunter that could turn on the rail and also slide like a stock horse, using an English saddle and a snaffle bit. Nancy
[IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
Another Mangalarga Marchador: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on2e0QKe6a4 Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD65pC8ZMEk > I think I see a saddle rack. I hated the way the guy kept making the horse turn so suddenly and sharply -- seemed kinda extreme and rude to the horse. -- Renee M. in Michigan
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD65pC8ZMEk > Looks like a step pace to me most of the time. Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[IceHorses] What Gait / Netuno
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Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY > > the first minute or so the lateral legs are moving in tandem, but in > opposite directions, so would that be "trottytoelt" ? > > It looks to be a trot. > > This is an example to compare to the trot of the show horses. This mare's > diagonals are moving together.<< Ok, I see it...it all depends on which pair of legs you "filter".
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
> > why is the horse kinda head tossy and goes with head to one side... > > The rider probably has too much contact on the horse's mouth, and the bit > may not fit, or the horse may never have been taught how to use the bit as a > means of communication. whatever hurts is on the opposite side of where the horse keeps wanting to go. Thats how jas does when his back is hurting. Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
> why is the horse kinda head tossy and goes with head to one side... This looks to be fox trot. The rider probably has too much contact on the horse's mouth, and the bit may not fit, or the horse may never have been taught how to use the bit as a means of communication. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY > > the first minute or so the lateral legs are moving in tandem, but in > opposite directions, so would that be "trottytoelt" ? It looks to be a trot. This is an example to compare to the trot of the show horses. This mare's diagonals are moving together. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY > fox trot in the beginning; the slo-mo was step pace Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Reykur
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Phthl3NGVE > Step pace Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDFI4xLYNmw > I only looked at it once, but it looked like a fox trot to me. Susan in NV http://desertduty.blogspot.com/ Riding for Breast Cancer Awareness Nevermore Ranch http://users.oasisol.com/nevermore/ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Reykur
i thought a foxtrot but in slowmo it looks like a pace! Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
why is the horse kinda head tossy and goes with head to one side... janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
On 04/03/2008, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY Fox trot...but I'm undecided..it may have been some fairly clean trot for a few strides. It certainly wasn't a smooth fox trot... Nice little saddle rack Stepping pace Walk Canter Wanda
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
>> Subject: [IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDFI4xLYNmw<< Thats a four beat gait with one foot lifting, one foot down, one foot about to be down, and one foot high...so I'd say toelt, but depending on the point in the action I can't tell if its closer to lateral or diagonal.
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Reykur
>> Subject: [IceHorses] What Gait / Reykur > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Phthl3NGVE<
Re: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
>> Subject: [IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY<< the first minute or so the lateral legs are moving in tandem, but in opposite directions, so would that be "trottytoelt" ? Its not diagonal but its moving in that direction. I'm really new at looking these so don't blast me.
[IceHorses] What Gait / Stjarna
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X-Y6Q-8zwVY Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / Reykur
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Phthl3NGVE Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
[IceHorses] What Gait / Tibra
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qDFI4xLYNmw Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com
RE: [IceHorses] What Gait / Black Horse
>>> Not the right position for the fox trot. I would say it's an impure trot, >>> very manipulated, very forced. I sure wouldn't call it a trot - the airborne diagonal pair is waaay too out of sync for that. Some "leg positions" simply aren't worthy of being called a gait. I don't see any point in assigning a name to something so man-made and forced. Karen Thomas, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1303 - Release Date: 2/28/2008 12:14 PM
