Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-07 Thread Laree Shulman
> The eye drops you want to stay away from-the ones that cause the
> redness 'rebound' effect are the ones that say 'gets the red out'.
> Those have the vasoconstrictors that cause the problems with using
> them too much.  The drops for dry eyes-especially the ones that are
> preservative free are fine to use as often as one wants.

Thanks, Anna, for that clarification.  I have problems with this at
times and it's good to know the right thing to use

Laree


RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-06 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Dry eyes symptoms can include redness, burning, itching and watering (the 
>>> eye waters more because your tears aren't lasting on the eye-the eye gets 
>>> dry, gets irritated then waters).  Use the drops before they get dry and 
>>> irritated-like using lip balm to prevent chapped lips.

Thanks, Anna.  I've been doing it backwards, trying not to over use them, and 
using them only after my eyes were stinging.  

BTW, my LL Bean face/neck warmer thingy came today.  It looks promising, like 
it might be the answer for my stinging face.  Maybe getting prepared for the 
cold will bring warm weather - I hope so!  


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-06 Thread Anna Hopkins
>
> I think I've read that too, Laree - the old what-ya-call-it cycle.   I don't
> use them TOO often, but I have to sometimes.

The eye drops you want to stay away from-the ones that cause the
redness 'rebound' effect are the ones that say 'gets the red out'.
Those have the vasoconstrictors that cause the problems with using
them too much.  The drops for dry eyes-especially the ones that are
preservative free are fine to use as often as one wants.  I like to
use the analogy that they do for your eyes what hand lotion does for
your skin.  It helps with the oil layer of your tears which is what
prevents the tears from drying off the eye too quickly.  Dry eyes
symptoms can include redness, burning, itching and watering (the eye
waters more because your tears aren't lasting on the eye-the eye gets
dry, gets irritated then waters).  Use the drops before they get dry
and irritated-like using lip balm to prevent chapped lips.

Sorry its late, behind in my mail.

Anna  (O.D. -optometrist)


RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-05 Thread Karen Thomas
 Do be careful with the eye drops. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that
many of them have the same problem as nasal sprays - the more you use them,
the more you need to use them(my darn aphasia has kicked in again - I know
there's a name for that).

I think I've read that too, Laree - the old what-ya-call-it cycle.   I don't
use them TOO often, but I have to sometimes.   I hope I can get the goggles
adjusted so I won't need as many as I use...No, wait, I just want it to be
spring and be done with this dry cold wind.

BTW, my memory for terms may be shot, but don't worry - my brain isn't so
fried hat I'll try using WD40 in my eyes!  :)

Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-05 Thread Laree Shulman
   I DO use
> Visine when I get back to the house.  That helps some, but they still burn.
> I think I need to work more on prevention,


Do be careful with the eye drops. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere
that many of them have the same problem as nasal sprays - the more you
use them, the more you need to use them(my darn aphasia has kicked in
again - I know there's a name for that).  I would just do some
research before I used eye drops on a regular basis.

Laree


RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread Karen Thomas
 Besides I would suspect there is a difference in our humidity.  Right now 
 our humidity is 71%..what's yours?  Someone said that we have a 'dry' 
 cold...and that's supposed to make
all the difference.  At least it sounded good at the time and I've clung to 
that idea.

Is 71% supposed to be dry?  Our humidity is at 28% right now.  It's up to 45 
degrees F, but the wind is howling, and a cold front is coming through.  It's 
supposed to be down to 12F by tomorrow night.  

Seriously I think we have our humidity backwards here.  I was in Killington 
Vermont in mid-January a few years ago for a conference, and the temps were 
about 25F during the day, in the low teens at night.  But, there were constant 
snow flurries and I guess that kept the humidity up.  That was much more 
pleasant than it is here when it's warmer.  I also think that's why I get such 
a bad case of dry eyes - more from the very low humidity than from the cold.  I 
went out Thursday when it was 29F and snowing, and it wasn't bad out at all. 


Karen Thomas
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Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread Wanda Lauscher
> I've tried them (engineers always have safety glasses you know) and I didn't 
> think they helped much.  Of course, I'm sure you'd think our bitterest cold 
> is pretty mild.

Mild maybe...but a wind is still a wind and can make the warmest of
days very unpleasant.  Besides I would suspect there is a difference
in our humidity.  Right now our humidity is 71%..what's yours?
Someone said that we have a 'dry' cold...and that's supposed to make
all the difference.  At least it sounded good at the time and I've
clung to that idea.

Anyway, I'm paying attention to what someone discoveres about wind and
goggles.  I wear glasses all the time, so some of the wind is cut
anyway, but I would still like something more stylish to wear.

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Were you wearing glasses to keep the wind out of your eyes? Try some eye
drops, like vaseline (misspelled?)

Yes, I tried the ski goggles, but they kept slipping down.  I'll work on
getting them adjusted better.  As for eye-drops, maybe you mean Visine, not
Vaseline?  I don't think I want to put Vaseline in my eyes!   I DO use
Visine when I get back to the house.  That helps some, but they still burn.
I think I need to work more on prevention,

Karen Thomas, NC


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RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread Karen Thomas
 Well...when it's really cold and windy here, (eg. blizzard) I wear ski 
 goggles.  However, it has occurred to me that safety glasses that sort of 
 wrap around the side of your face would work in conditions that aren't so 
 extreme.

I've tried them (engineers always have safety glasses you know) and I didn't 
think they helped much.  Of course, I'm sure you'd think our bitterest cold is 
pretty mild.   


Karen Thomas, NC



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Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:13:31PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote:
> The part that kills me is the face burn, and the burning eyes.  

i'm going to stop by rei today to pick up a balaclava to try for face
burn -- i get that too, and scarves tend to fall down under my chin too
easily.  for burning eyes (which i've never gotten riding, but have
gotten in snow sports) i highly recommend winter-sports goggles (and
tinted ones if you are in snow, as opposed to just wind).

i'll post a review of the balaclava if anyone is interested.

happy cold-weather riding!
--vicka


Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-04 Thread pippa258
Karen Thomas wrote:
> Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes?  I don't think I'll try
> putting Desitin in my eyes!
There are some good eye drops out there...have you heard of the 
homeopathic brand, Similisan?  They have versions for dry eye, allergy 
eye, etc.  Any natural food store carries them but I have seen them in 
the normal drug stores, Target, etc.  too.  I also use an eye drop 
called "Blink" which is very good.  I wear gas perm lenses so have tried 
them all!

Trish




Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
> Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes?  I don't think I'll try
> putting Desitin in my eyes!
> Karen Thomas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well...when it's really cold and windy here, (eg. blizzard) I wear ski
goggles.  However, it has occurred to me that safety glasses that sort
of wrap around the side of your face would work in conditions that
aren't so extreme.

I have a pair somewhere, I should try them.

Wanda


Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-03 Thread Raven
>> Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes?  I don't think I'll try
putting Desitin in my eyes!

Were you wearing glasses to keep the wind out of your eyes? Try some
eye drops, like vaseline (misspelled?)

Raven
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RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-03 Thread Karen Thomas
 My husband and I rode at South Mountain State Park today.  It was 38
degrees and very windy.  I was cozy.  I have one of those winter  riding
suits from Dunne and Krumm.

It wasn't my body or my feet that were cold.  I wore layers of light
polarfleece and had on my insulated Ariats, so I was fine.  The part that
kills me is the face burn, and the burning eyes.  I just haven't found
anything to help that, and it gets worse as I get older.  I also get
dehydrated easily in the windy weather, and I don't want to drink much when
it's so cold.  I made myself drink a very big cup of hot tea before I went
out - I think coffee dehydrates me too much.  And, I was sure to drink a
good bit when I came back in.  That helped, but my cheeks are still burning,
and my eyes too.

Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes?  I don't think I'll try
putting Desitin in my eyes!


Karen Thomas
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[IceHorses] need more than a tshirt

2007-02-03 Thread Docnshop2
My husband and I rode at South Mountain State Park today.  It was 38  degrees 
and very windy.  I was cozy.  I have one of those winter  riding suits from 
Dunne and Krumm.  
Renee