Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
> The eye drops you want to stay away from-the ones that cause the > redness 'rebound' effect are the ones that say 'gets the red out'. > Those have the vasoconstrictors that cause the problems with using > them too much. The drops for dry eyes-especially the ones that are > preservative free are fine to use as often as one wants. Thanks, Anna, for that clarification. I have problems with this at times and it's good to know the right thing to use Laree
RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
>>> Dry eyes symptoms can include redness, burning, itching and watering (the >>> eye waters more because your tears aren't lasting on the eye-the eye gets >>> dry, gets irritated then waters). Use the drops before they get dry and >>> irritated-like using lip balm to prevent chapped lips. Thanks, Anna. I've been doing it backwards, trying not to over use them, and using them only after my eyes were stinging. BTW, my LL Bean face/neck warmer thingy came today. It looks promising, like it might be the answer for my stinging face. Maybe getting prepared for the cold will bring warm weather - I hope so! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
> > I think I've read that too, Laree - the old what-ya-call-it cycle. I don't > use them TOO often, but I have to sometimes. The eye drops you want to stay away from-the ones that cause the redness 'rebound' effect are the ones that say 'gets the red out'. Those have the vasoconstrictors that cause the problems with using them too much. The drops for dry eyes-especially the ones that are preservative free are fine to use as often as one wants. I like to use the analogy that they do for your eyes what hand lotion does for your skin. It helps with the oil layer of your tears which is what prevents the tears from drying off the eye too quickly. Dry eyes symptoms can include redness, burning, itching and watering (the eye waters more because your tears aren't lasting on the eye-the eye gets dry, gets irritated then waters). Use the drops before they get dry and irritated-like using lip balm to prevent chapped lips. Sorry its late, behind in my mail. Anna (O.D. -optometrist)
RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
Do be careful with the eye drops. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that many of them have the same problem as nasal sprays - the more you use them, the more you need to use them(my darn aphasia has kicked in again - I know there's a name for that). I think I've read that too, Laree - the old what-ya-call-it cycle. I don't use them TOO often, but I have to sometimes. I hope I can get the goggles adjusted so I won't need as many as I use...No, wait, I just want it to be spring and be done with this dry cold wind. BTW, my memory for terms may be shot, but don't worry - my brain isn't so fried hat I'll try using WD40 in my eyes! :) Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.25/669 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 9:58 PM
Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
I DO use > Visine when I get back to the house. That helps some, but they still burn. > I think I need to work more on prevention, Do be careful with the eye drops. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that many of them have the same problem as nasal sprays - the more you use them, the more you need to use them(my darn aphasia has kicked in again - I know there's a name for that). I would just do some research before I used eye drops on a regular basis. Laree
RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
Besides I would suspect there is a difference in our humidity. Right now our humidity is 71%..what's yours? Someone said that we have a 'dry' cold...and that's supposed to make all the difference. At least it sounded good at the time and I've clung to that idea. Is 71% supposed to be dry? Our humidity is at 28% right now. It's up to 45 degrees F, but the wind is howling, and a cold front is coming through. It's supposed to be down to 12F by tomorrow night. Seriously I think we have our humidity backwards here. I was in Killington Vermont in mid-January a few years ago for a conference, and the temps were about 25F during the day, in the low teens at night. But, there were constant snow flurries and I guess that kept the humidity up. That was much more pleasant than it is here when it's warmer. I also think that's why I get such a bad case of dry eyes - more from the very low humidity than from the cold. I went out Thursday when it was 29F and snowing, and it wasn't bad out at all. Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
> I've tried them (engineers always have safety glasses you know) and I didn't > think they helped much. Of course, I'm sure you'd think our bitterest cold > is pretty mild. Mild maybe...but a wind is still a wind and can make the warmest of days very unpleasant. Besides I would suspect there is a difference in our humidity. Right now our humidity is 71%..what's yours? Someone said that we have a 'dry' cold...and that's supposed to make all the difference. At least it sounded good at the time and I've clung to that idea. Anyway, I'm paying attention to what someone discoveres about wind and goggles. I wear glasses all the time, so some of the wind is cut anyway, but I would still like something more stylish to wear. Wanda
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>>> Were you wearing glasses to keep the wind out of your eyes? Try some eye drops, like vaseline (misspelled?) Yes, I tried the ski goggles, but they kept slipping down. I'll work on getting them adjusted better. As for eye-drops, maybe you mean Visine, not Vaseline? I don't think I want to put Vaseline in my eyes! I DO use Visine when I get back to the house. That helps some, but they still burn. I think I need to work more on prevention, Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 1:30 AM
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Well...when it's really cold and windy here, (eg. blizzard) I wear ski goggles. However, it has occurred to me that safety glasses that sort of wrap around the side of your face would work in conditions that aren't so extreme. I've tried them (engineers always have safety glasses you know) and I didn't think they helped much. Of course, I'm sure you'd think our bitterest cold is pretty mild. Karen Thomas, NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.24/668 - Release Date: 2/4/2007 1:30 AM
Re: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 10:13:31PM -0500, Karen Thomas wrote: > The part that kills me is the face burn, and the burning eyes. i'm going to stop by rei today to pick up a balaclava to try for face burn -- i get that too, and scarves tend to fall down under my chin too easily. for burning eyes (which i've never gotten riding, but have gotten in snow sports) i highly recommend winter-sports goggles (and tinted ones if you are in snow, as opposed to just wind). i'll post a review of the balaclava if anyone is interested. happy cold-weather riding! --vicka
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Karen Thomas wrote: > Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes? I don't think I'll try > putting Desitin in my eyes! There are some good eye drops out there...have you heard of the homeopathic brand, Similisan? They have versions for dry eye, allergy eye, etc. Any natural food store carries them but I have seen them in the normal drug stores, Target, etc. too. I also use an eye drop called "Blink" which is very good. I wear gas perm lenses so have tried them all! Trish
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> Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes? I don't think I'll try > putting Desitin in my eyes! > Karen Thomas > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well...when it's really cold and windy here, (eg. blizzard) I wear ski goggles. However, it has occurred to me that safety glasses that sort of wrap around the side of your face would work in conditions that aren't so extreme. I have a pair somewhere, I should try them. Wanda
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>> Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes? I don't think I'll try putting Desitin in my eyes! Were you wearing glasses to keep the wind out of your eyes? Try some eye drops, like vaseline (misspelled?) Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn, the American Ice Pony Dixie Chick, the Mini Barn Goddess Odin and Vili, the Rat Boyz Maggie Rose, Weetzie Bat and Salem Blue, the Barn Cats Western WI, USA, Planet Earth
RE: [IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
My husband and I rode at South Mountain State Park today. It was 38 degrees and very windy. I was cozy. I have one of those winter riding suits from Dunne and Krumm. It wasn't my body or my feet that were cold. I wore layers of light polarfleece and had on my insulated Ariats, so I was fine. The part that kills me is the face burn, and the burning eyes. I just haven't found anything to help that, and it gets worse as I get older. I also get dehydrated easily in the windy weather, and I don't want to drink much when it's so cold. I made myself drink a very big cup of hot tea before I went out - I think coffee dehydrates me too much. And, I was sure to drink a good bit when I came back in. That helped, but my cheeks are still burning, and my eyes too. Anyone have any ideas for helping the burning eyes? I don't think I'll try putting Desitin in my eyes! Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[IceHorses] need more than a tshirt
My husband and I rode at South Mountain State Park today. It was 38 degrees and very windy. I was cozy. I have one of those winter riding suits from Dunne and Krumm. Renee