Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Janice McDonald
On Jan 27, 2008 3:14 PM, Jeannette Hoenig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am not sure if I should be letting her go faster on the flat and
then slowing her on the turns and hills. I don't know if forcing her
to go slow is going to create more problems. Like head tossing, etc.

i have a goey horse that I believe if I had not worked really hard for
a long time on trying to make him listen and slow down, he would be a
maniac, because even tho I got him to listen to this he is just
borderline uncontrollable.  And even tho I finally got where he would
listen when I would try and slow him, a friend rode him for me in an
excited situation a couple of weeks ago and he wore her arms out
trying to hold him back the whole ride.  the thing that worked for me,
was on the ground training him to give to the bit, bring the head
down, flex to one side and then the other, then at the walk, then at
the gait.  but I hate to break it to you, when young he started out
like this, then got better, then with age got even more hot and goey.
he is my problem child.  but one thing, i was advised to put a
different bot on him.  the one i used was a wonderbit, designed to
keep the head high.  high head equals high excitement.  i switched him
to a mullen pelham which i use with one set of reins like a short
shanked bit and it brought his head down and made him more manageable
and his gait better too!  Made his gait awesome cause he was not so
ventroflexed.
Janice


-- 
courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway--John Wayne


Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Karen Thomas
 went on a short trail ride today, short because my girl was not to 
 interested in following and she wanted to leap down hills or run them. 
 I didn't let her and it made her angry and she would crow hop or buck. 
 Neither was that bad because I put the western treed saddle on to ride 
 and it defiinitly gives you more confidence when riding an 
 overconfident horse who is green.


How old is she, and how long under saddle?  Horses will also rush, buck, 
etc. if they are uncomfortable.  Are you sure the western saddle fits her? 
There really aren't THAT many western saddles that work on Icelandic's...? 
A tree that is too long for the horse may poke the loins more dramatically 
on hills.

Runa bucked this weekend (but only on the lunge) when the big endurance 
stirrups bumped her in the sides and surprised her.  She quickly adjusted 
and regained her composure though, and was fine when ridden.


Karen Thomas, NC



Re: [IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Nancy Sturm
. I am not sure if I should be letting her go faster on the flat and then 
slowing her on the turns and hills. I don't know if forcing her to go slow 
is going to create more problems. Like head tossing, etc.

Do you have hills?

There's no flat ground here and we take advantage of that with youngsters. 
They don't usually stay silly very long when it's such hard work.

Nancy 



[IceHorses] riding the young tall icey

2008-01-27 Thread Jeannette Hoenig
went on a short trail ride today, short because my girl was not to interested 
in following and she wanted to leap down hills or run them. I didn't let her 
and it made her angry and she would crow hop or buck. Neither was that bad 
because I put the western treed saddle on to ride and it defiinitly gives you 
more confidence when riding an overconfident horse who is green. I do think my 
larger size makes the bucks a lot more uncomfortable for her than she is making 
for me and so she only gives it one try and then stops it and goes back to a 
walk like I ask her. She did mostly very nice on flat ground and when I did 
give her the chance to lead on the trail she wanted to go into trot or tolt and 
I said no for today since she was giving me her attitude, only walk, then she 
would try to race whoever I let get back in front of her for more riding. She 
is very dominant. I do find I have to give her lots of jobs to keep her mind 
off of who is behind us so she doesn't try to bother them. She is not the laid 
back personality of her mother. She is still very loving and when ever I get 
the chance to remind her with praise for being good, she starts prancing, like 
she is the best child I have. I think she is going to be a horse that needs a 
dominant personality to be responsive to, and not someone who bullies, that 
seems to be her job. I am not sure if I should be letting her go faster on the 
flat and then slowing her on the turns and hills. I don't know if forcing her 
to go slow is going to create more problems. Like head tossing, etc. What do 
you think. I don't ride her on trails alone just because she is so head strong 
and the funny thing is, I can't ride her in a ring, she won't go forward after 
about two laps, like she hates being in the ring, I do too but I don't tell her 
that.