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> Then how about OLOPs - Old Ladies on Ponies. I like that one better. Don't want all the Italians mad at us. Robyn S
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>From: "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > and >when we go by people would go "oh there go the OWOPS again" and >everyone would think we were a group of italian women... Then how about OLOPs - Old Ladies on Ponies. V _ Share More On Messenger with a Windows Live Space http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca
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>From: "cjaylayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >That was >part of the appeal of an Icelandic - downsizing - now it's a shorter >fall to the ground for this grandmother! > >Maybe we could start a new group OWOP (old women on ponies)! Count me in -- I want to play too!! V _ Windows Live Hotmail. Even hotter than before. Get a better look now. www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA148 IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On 8/31/07, cjaylayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Maybe we could start a new group – OWOP (old women on ponies)! > > CJ > we could spray paint our helmets red and wear purple bandanas :) and when we go by people would go "oh there go the OWOPS again" and everyone would think we were a group of italian women... Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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> > that's not a myth about icelandics. that's just stupid. > > theres other myths just as stupid that people do all the time. absolutely true. --vicka
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> >combat the >>American ideas about ponies - they are for children etc. > > I would surely agree with this since I find myself without fail talking > about weight carrying capability to every person I'm introducing my > Icelandics to...I don't want them to think I'm abusing the ponies by > riding > them, I guess. Yes, I think it's good to educate people about how much a stocky short pony can carry, so good for you! I think we have to be concerned for the breed in general, that it doesn't get into the fabrication or unrealistic area. It helps if we know how to evaluate, as much as can be done, about that ability. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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>It struck me that it was put out there to combat the >American ideas about ponies - they are for children etc. I would surely agree with this since I find myself without fail talking about weight carrying capability to every person I'm introducing my Icelandics to...I don't want them to think I'm abusing the ponies by riding them, I guess. Sue
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On 8/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's not a myth about icelandics. that's just stupid. > > --vicka > theres other myths just as stupid that people do all the time. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 08:19:22AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: > she also believed the myth she was told that "icelandics don't have to > eat grain" and interpreted that to mean they don't eat at all. or > apparently drink either. They were gnawing bare tree roots in the > sand for food and had six inches of hot slimy green water in a bucket > to drink. that's not a myth about icelandics. that's just stupid. --vicka
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On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 06:53:28AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: > If I thought they were simply claims to broaden the pony market, it wouldn't > automatically bother me so much. However, I know there are actually > 300-350-pound (maybe more) riders buying these horses...and while some of > our ponies may be able to carry that weight, I have to ask how long are > these riders riding, how fast, how good is their balance, how well do their > saddles fit, etc...? Fair or not, it's just a fact that the heavier the > rider, the more perfect all other factors should be. After all, horseback > riding is not a "victimless sport." absolutely. and i think that this applies to *all* riders, of any horse. when i rode at a barn that did sales, we saw some truly awful riders (of widely varying sizes) who we would really have preferred to have come for lessons rather than purchasing. any rider who is unbalanced or uses an ill-fitting saddle can hurt a horse, any rider can overwork a horse for its condition. good horsemanship and good care for the horse needs to be a priority. --vicka
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> I have been looking into Icelandics for about six months now and I visited many, many websites before finding Judy's site. About 99% of them had some qoute or another about the superiority of the Icelandic weight carrying ability. It usually ranges from 250 to 300 lbs. It was never clarified beyond that - that it only applies to certain builds and types within the breed etc. Sarah, I wanted to apologize too. There are a few people who jump to deny whatever the list topic of the moment is - "I've never seen that", "it never happens" or "I've never heard that" even about things that are so common and so blatantly obvious, and I find that embarrassing. Not all Icelandic owners and breeders are so quick to defend and/or deny the claims that are so glaringly common. But while on the topic of first impressions to someone getting to know the breed I was really turned off by the tons and tons of pictures and videos out there that promote the (for lack of a better word) "show" tolt. My husband was really horrified by the riding to be honest. He kept saying "Why are they riding like that? Why is that horses neck and chest so over built?" Even though I hate to hear that's what your and your husband's impressions were, I know what you mean. We on the list NEED to hear that more often, from potential owners coming from the "outside" horse world. I think way too many people are turned off from the breed and quietly, politely walk away without saying anything. Thanks for speaking up. I wish more people would. I am not trying to prove or disprove any side of an "argument" but that particular tidbit is all over the web. I can only assume that it is a form of some information that was given to them by Icelandic importers but that is just an assumption! When your are selling to a country that thinks ponies are for children I think this claim would help to bolster your sales. If I thought they were simply claims to broaden the pony market, it wouldn't automatically bother me so much. However, I know there are actually 300-350-pound (maybe more) riders buying these horses...and while some of our ponies may be able to carry that weight, I have to ask how long are these riders riding, how fast, how good is their balance, how well do their saddles fit, etc...? Fair or not, it's just a fact that the heavier the rider, the more perfect all other factors should be. After all, horseback riding is not a "victimless sport." Karen Thomas, NC
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> Sarah, it's very refreshing to read a post from someon who is obviously > researching and giving this a lot of thought. Good luck in your search for > the right Icelandic! > > Exactly! We're glad to have you on the list, Sarah. :) Thanks! I enjoy this list tremendously. I have learned a ton about Icelandics and gaited horses in general. I think an Icelandic may be a few years in the future at this point but who knows! Sarah Msla, MT
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Sarah, it's very refreshing to read a post from someon who is obviously researching and giving this a lot of thought. Good luck in your search for the right Icelandic! Exactly! We're glad to have you on the list, Sarah. :) Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM
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>>> Well, Gat doesn't seem to labour when carrying me and her previous owner was about 5' 8" or thereabouts, though not heavier than 120 lbs. I think my daughter is just used to seeing adults on larger horses. I thought it looked funny too at first, but now I'm used to seeing 6'2" Cary on 13.3 1/2H Skjoni, and now that looks normal to me. :) Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM "The greatest enemy of the truth very often is not the lie- deliberate, contrived and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive and unrealistic." "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer [] The video every Icelandic Horse owner should have: http://IceHorses.net/video.html [] Lee Ziegler http://leeziegler.com [] Liz Graves http://lizgraves.com [] Lee's Book Easy Gaited Horses http://tinyurl.com/7vyjo [] IceHorses Map http://www.frappr.com/IceHorses [] IceHorses ToolBar http://iceryder.ourtoolbar.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IceHorses/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Weight-Carrying Ability
That is a little scary! I don't think my little guys could comfortably carry nearly 300lbs. My guys are on the smaller side for Icelandics, maybe 12.2, but stout. I think that would be way too much. Three hundred pounds is a lot of weight for any horse to carry. I think one way to think of it is by how much we can carry. There are certain weights I can strain and lift, but only for a few seconds, while less weight I can carry for longer periods. If you want to be literal, suspect most Icelandics can carry 300 pounds, but for some maybe only for a couple of minutes. I think it would take a LOT of gradual and systematic conditioning for most Icelandic's to carry 300 pounds for more than an hour or so. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM
RE: [IceHorses] Re: Weight-Carrying Ability
>From: "Kim Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I really doubt you are too big for Gat:) It doesn't sound like it! Well, Gat doesn't seem to labour when carrying me and her previous owner was about 5' 8" or thereabouts, though not heavier than 120 lbs. I think my daughter is just used to seeing adults on larger horses. V _ Get Cultured With Arts & Culture Festivals On Live Maps http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca&v=2&cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!2010&encType=1&style=h&FORM=SERNEP
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>From: "Kim Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >That is a little scary! I don't think my little guys could comfortably >carry nearly 300lbs. My guys are on the smaller side for Icelandics, >maybe 12.2, but stout. I think that would be way too much. Our Gat is 12.2 and I feel too big for her (I'm 120 lbs 5'4") -- my daughter, Alex laughs when I ride Gat and says I look funny cuz I'm too big. V _ Reconnect with Familiar Faces with Windows Live Spaces http://spaces.live.com/?mkt=en-ca
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I just got this mental image of Yrsa sagging in the middle with a 300 lb man balanced (or not balanced) on her little back. Tosca actually looks like she might be good for 300 lbs. She's a tank. Nancy
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Weight-Carrying Ability<<< I would think it is alot to do with the condition the horse is in. Some of the smallest, littliest people are very very strong. Depends how much conditioning etc. A smaller framed horse might do great if it has been conditioned properly. Making his back, legs, everything stronger and able to carry more weight. How much time, as my son would say has he been in the WEIGHT ROOM!!!
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> I can understand that. But I think it might not have been a good thing to > adamantly insist that it is NOT a pony. > > Honesty would be better. > > > Judy yeah, its like admitting the truth is the first step... like we should go ahead and all admit we are old women riding ponies and get over it :) Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
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YES, SO MANY YOU SEE ARE EWE NECKED FROM BEING FORCED INTO AN UNNATURAL POSITION. oh. i did not mean to have on caps :) janice-- yipie tie yie yo
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>>>It struck me that it was put out there to combat the > American ideas about ponies - they are for children etc. > > The pony stigma seems to be > a real or perceived problem to overcome when promoting the breed. I can understand that. But I think it might not have been a good thing to adamantly insist that it is NOT a pony. Honesty would be better. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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On 31/07/07, sarah gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But while on the topic of first impressions to someone getting to know > the breed I was really turned off by the tons and tons of pictures and > videos out there that promote the (for lack of a better word) "show" > tolt. My husband was really horrified by the riding to be honest. He > kept saying "Why are they riding like that? Why is that horses neck > and chest so over built?" Yes, I've had a few private discussions about that. I feel I'm always placed in a position of having to defend the breed when someone outside the Icelandic world wants to discuss the horses and their gaits. Especially if their only exposure has been the 'show' world. No...you don't have to ride that way, if your horse is naturally gaited...that gait will come bubbling out as the horse gains condition. Wanda
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 01:58:59PM -0600, sarah gibson wrote: > But it did imply and on many cases state outright that they are > stronger than other short horses (ponies). i suspect this is true, relative to a lot of american ponies, which have been heavily influenced by breeds such as the welsh and pony of the americas -- both much lighter-boned than an icelandic (or for that matter a fjord, or several other european breeds much rarer this side of the antlantic.) > tolt. My husband was really horrified by the riding to be honest. He > kept saying "Why are they riding like that? Why is that horses neck > and chest so over built?" my stjarni just happens to have a big neck and chest, even for an icelandic. (i think icelanders would refer to him as "bull-built".) i shall refrain from asking after your husband's individual physique :) --vicka
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On 7/31/07, sarah gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i have to say i've personally heard the most of it (clearly marked as > > > disinformation) on this list. > > I have been looking into Icelandics for about six months now and I > visited many, many websites before finding Judy's site. Sarah, it's very refreshing to read a post from someon who is obviously researching and giving this a lot of thought. Good luck in your search for the right Icelandic! Robyn S
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On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 11:42:24AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote:
> Here are several places where it has been repeated about the 250 lbs:
>
> http://www.3dranch.net/IcelandicHorses.html (breeders)
>
> An Icelandic Horse can easily carry a rider up to 250 lb. over great
> distances.
i visited this site for a teaspoon of context. they also define tolt as
"running walk" and "various four-beat gaits" (with which i agree and i
know you do not), and call the horse "bombproof". i am guessing they
are overgeneralizing some, but sort of within what i think of as ordinary
rhetoric ("an" icelandic horse probably can; i wouldn't put it past
stjarni with proper conditioning.)
> http://www.gaitedhorses.net/BreedArticles/IceBreedDesc.htm (info from Lukka)
same sentence. i didn't go to the site, but i figure it's a standard line.
> http://www.moondanceacres.com/FAQ.html (importers, breeders)
>
> Q. I'm a husky 220 lb, do you really think one of those little Icelandic
> horses can carry me?
>
>
> A. It is commonly said that the Icelandic Horse can carry up to 300 lb
> without problems. I am only comfortable saying this, when we talk about an
> individual horse that is physically built for weight carrying ability with
> strong bones, well muscled and compact, and if such horse is not expected to
> carry all that weight for many hours in challenging terrain. In Germany such
> horses are called "weight carrier type". We have to be aware of the fact
> that not size, but conformation determines weight carrying ability. A strong
> back, loins and hind, paired with good muscling, strong joints and feet will
> make a much stronger horse that some of the lofty 16 hh thoroughbred type
> horses with weak backs and no substance. Some Icelandics are small and
> fineboned with weaker backs or loins, but the average Icelandic will be fine
> with weights of up to 250 lb if the Rider is balanced and the Saddle fits
> well. Just consider this - it is the only breed in Iceland, and the
> Icelandic people are generally tall and many men exceed six feet. The
> Icelandic Horse is very powerful for its size, has a very long stride and a
> proud bearing that makes it look much larger than it actually is. Small
> horses like the icelandic have a better ratio of calories to output and
> great stamina/willingness that will actually get you somewhere - they often
> are natural swimmers and have a lot of sense for the trail, they rarely
> spook and can also be your best buddy when you are not in the saddle.
i think this answer sounds thorough and truthful, except that i can't
speak for the "average" icelandic, not having such under my observation.
stjarni's a big guy, but he does carry a 240# person over short distances
with an unbalanced rider (though a well-fitting saddle) without issue.
> http://www.hiddentrails.com/canada/rt/bc-icelandics.htm#The_Icelandic_Horse
>
> These small but strong horses can easily carry a rider up to 250 lbs.
>
> http://www.hiddentrails.com/weight-trips.htm
this is an equestrian-vacation site (as are several others quoted), and i
presume they just mean they can provide horses suitable for such riders.
did you mean to imply that weight-bearing icelandics don't exist? i'm
confused...
--vicka
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> > i have to say i've personally heard the most of it (clearly marked as > > disinformation) on this list. I have been looking into Icelandics for about six months now and I visited many, many websites before finding Judy's site. About 99% of them had some qoute or another about the superiority of the Icelandic weight carrying ability. It usually ranges from 250 to 300 lbs. It was never clarified beyond that - that it only applies to certain builds and types within the breed etc. I am a fairly light weight rider so that never concerned me directly however I always thought it interesting that there was so much emphasis on it. It struck me that it was put out there to combat the American ideas about ponies - they are for children etc. But it did imply and on many cases state outright that they are stronger than other short horses (ponies).The pony stigma seems to be a real or perceived problem to overcome when promoting the breed. I have a hard time believing that they are some how stronger than other similarily built ponies around the globe. They are not mythical creatures after all! Mind you these were American breeders and importers of various ethnicities. I can't read Icelandic so I did not stay long on Icelandic sites although the pictures are pretty. But while on the topic of first impressions to someone getting to know the breed I was really turned off by the tons and tons of pictures and videos out there that promote the (for lack of a better word) "show" tolt. My husband was really horrified by the riding to be honest. He kept saying "Why are they riding like that? Why is that horses neck and chest so over built?" I am not interested in the show world of Icelandics and not interested in the type of riding that was so readily available and promoted on many breeder's websites. So unfortunately it was big turn off for me in the beginning. However, I had seen Icelandics in other contexts in Alexandra Kurland's videos and I did finally find Judy's site. I am not trying to prove or disprove any side of an "argument" but that particular tidbit is all over the web. I can only assume that it is a form of some information that was given to them by Icelandic importers but that is just an assumption! When your are selling to a country that thinks ponies are for children I think this claim would help to bolster your sales. > I think applying logic and common sense to the situation would be better for > the horse. And I agree! This whole weight carrying ability thing always struck me at sensationalism. In fact my board owner ( who knows nothing about Icelandics) - exclaimed "aren't they small but very, very strong and can carry up to 300lbs!" when I talked to her about my interest in the breed. Funny! Sarah Msla, MT
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>> are very few people in the US who actually travel to iceland and talk >> to breeders/sellers/trainers there. so who puts all this wrong stuff >> out there?? > > i have to say i've personally heard the most of it (clearly marked as > disinformation) on this list. We try to keep up with the current information, as well as trying to dispell the myths and rumors, as quickly as possible, for the benefit of the horse. Sometimes, if people haven't heard it, except here, they may be new to the breed, not been exposed to the PR, and / or get most of their information from the list, which is a good thing. I think applying logic and common sense to the situation would be better for the horse. Here are several places where it has been repeated about the 250 lbs: http://www.3dranch.net/IcelandicHorses.html (breeders) An Icelandic Horse can easily carry a rider up to 250 lb. over great distances. http://www.gaitedhorses.net/BreedArticles/IceBreedDesc.htm (info from Lukka) An Icelandic Horse can easily carry a rider up to 250 lb. over great distances. http://www.moondanceacres.com/FAQ.html (importers, breeders) Q. I'm a husky 220 lb, do you really think one of those little Icelandic horses can carry me? A. It is commonly said that the Icelandic Horse can carry up to 300 lb without problems. I am only comfortable saying this, when we talk about an individual horse that is physically built for weight carrying ability with strong bones, well muscled and compact, and if such horse is not expected to carry all that weight for many hours in challenging terrain. In Germany such horses are called "weight carrier type". We have to be aware of the fact that not size, but conformation determines weight carrying ability. A strong back, loins and hind, paired with good muscling, strong joints and feet will make a much stronger horse that some of the lofty 16 hh thoroughbred type horses with weak backs and no substance. Some Icelandics are small and fineboned with weaker backs or loins, but the average Icelandic will be fine with weights of up to 250 lb if the Rider is balanced and the Saddle fits well. Just consider this - it is the only breed in Iceland, and the Icelandic people are generally tall and many men exceed six feet. The Icelandic Horse is very powerful for its size, has a very long stride and a proud bearing that makes it look much larger than it actually is. Small horses like the icelandic have a better ratio of calories to output and great stamina/willingness that will actually get you somewhere - they often are natural swimmers and have a lot of sense for the trail, they rarely spook and can also be your best buddy when you are not in the saddle. http://www.hiddentrails.com/canada/rt/bc-icelandics.htm#The_Icelandic_Horse These small but strong horses can easily carry a rider up to 250 lbs. http://www.hiddentrails.com/weight-trips.htm Also all rides in Iceland and Norway are OK to book up to 250 lbs due to the unique body structure of the Icelandic horses. http://www.toltaway.com/index.cfm/id/The_Icelandic_Horse (breeders) The Icelandic Horse can without problem carry a person up to 300 lbs. http://forums.somd.com/archive/index.php/t-67911.html A nieghbor of mine is 5'9" and 250 lbs and he rides and breeds icelandic horses. http://www.icehorse.com This Viking Horse is tough enough to carry a 300-pound man, and can easily be ridden by women and children. http://goldenvalleyicelandics.com/history.html The Icelandic Horse can without problem carry a person up to 300 lbs. http://www.horse-sense.org. If you were to tour Iceland and wanted to ride an Icelandic horse, you would be able to do it - the horse-tour facility I've heard about has a rider weight limit of 280 pounds. http://www.ridingholidays.com/canada_british-columbia.htm These small but strong horses can easily carry a rider up to 200 lbs. Rides will be 4 to 5 hours daily. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com
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well I am surely not a liteweight but I at least ride my horse, my husband sorta wallers around up there like a drunk, gosh its awful. janice -- yipie tie yie yo
Re: [IceHorses] Re: Weight-Carrying Ability
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 07:46:08AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: > Relatively there > are very few people in the US who actually travel to iceland and talk > to breeders/sellers/trainers there. so who puts all this wrong stuff > out there?? i have to say i've personally heard the most of it (clearly marked as disinformation) on this list. --vicka
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On 7/31/07, dawn_atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have we heard a trainer, breeder, or seller of Icelandic Horses claim > that the horses can carry a 300 lb man all day? > > ---No, I haven't. > > > Is this true? > > ---No, it's not. > > > Is it logical? > > ---No, it's not. > > Dawn Bruin-Slot > Fuzzy Logic Equine > this brings up an interesting point i think. Seems to me a lot of misinformation comes from a small handful of sources and is accepted broadly as fact when its not. I for instance bought my icelandic from a small breeder/trainer/seller of icelandic horses. She didn't give me any of these broad based myths as facts. The only person from iceland that i have ever "talked" to is a person who owns trains icelandics in a wonderful natural horsemanship manner and has never offered any of this misinformation as credible, in fact thinks most of it is pretty ridiculous as I do. So where is it coming from? There are so few icelandic breeders/trainers/sellers who put out any information to the public at large about the breed. Relatively there are very few people in the US who actually travel to iceland and talk to breeders/sellers/trainers there. so who puts all this wrong stuff out there?? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo
