[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Zyxware has moved
ചുറ്റിക്കറങ്ങിയിട്ടാണെങ്കിലും ഈ പരസ്യം വരുന്നതിന് മുമ്പ് ഞാന് അവിടെ ചെന്നെത്തി. 2009/5/12 Anoop John > > Dear All, > > We have finally found a place to move to. Thanks for all those who > have helped us in searching for a rental. > > Our new office address is > > Zyxware Technologies > TC 3/118, Opp M. G. College > Kesavadasapuram, > Pattom P.O., Trivandrum. > > Our phone numbers are > > 0471-2449495, > 09446069446. > > I hope that this new location is going to be more convenient for > people to access Zyxware services and products. > > Best Regards > > Anoop John > Zyxware Technologies > > -- > > > http://www.zyxware.com > http://www.anoopjohn.com > http://www.thondomraughts.com > > > "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi > > > > > > -- __ മണ്ണിരകളെ കൃഷിയിടങ്ങളില് സംരക്ഷിക്കൂ പ്രകൃതിയും ആരോഗ്യവും സംരക്ഷിക്കപ്പെടട്ടെ! Thank you എസ്.ചന്ദ്രശേഖരന് നായര്, ശ്രീരാഘവ്, പെരുകാവ്, പേയാട്-പി.ഒ, തിരുവനന്തപുരം. 695 573 Ph. 0471 2283033 Mob. 91 9447183033 OR 91 9495983033 Blog: http://keralafarmeronline.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: [OT]Zyxware has moved
hi, route map? thanks & regards vibi On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Anoop John wrote: > > Dear All, > > We have finally found a place to move to. Thanks for all those who > have helped us in searching for a rental. > > Our new office address is > > Zyxware Technologies > TC 3/118, Opp M. G. College > Kesavadasapuram, > Pattom P.O., Trivandrum. > > Our phone numbers are > > 0471-2449495, > 09446069446. > > I hope that this new location is going to be more convenient for > people to access Zyxware services and products. > > Best Regards > > Anoop John > Zyxware Technologies > > -- > > http://www.zyxware.com > http://www.anoopjohn.com > http://www.thondomraughts.com > > "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: sites for downlading c++ cbt
c++ programming cbt(computer based training) On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM, zct wrote: > > ..I Really want to know what is C++ cbt. > > Arun v vempan wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Pls suggest me some sites or blogs where i can download CBT.Especially > > i need c++ cbt. > > > > Thanks and regards > > Arun.v > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: sites for downlading c++ cbt
..I Really want to know what is C++ cbt. Arun v vempan wrote: > Dear All, > > Pls suggest me some sites or blogs where i can download CBT.Especially > i need c++ cbt. > > Thanks and regards > Arun.v > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with Ubuntu login
Solution seems to be good. Let me try this tonight and let you all. Thanks for the quick help Visakh and Shyam Anoop On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Visakh wrote: > > Hmmm They are asking you to add i8042.reset option to linux kernel > options. That means resetting keyboard controller chip. This may > either be the fault of APIC (interrupt controller) or ACPI (power > management) - very likely latter, since it seems to be related to > reboots. I wonder if somebody has filed a bug report for this. Syam > chettan's problem may have been similar. > > Regards, > Gokul Das > > > -- With Regards, Anoop P --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] sites for downlading c++ cbt
Dear All, Pls suggest me some sites or blogs where i can download CBT.Especially i need c++ cbt. Thanks and regards Arun.v --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with Ubuntu login
Hmmm They are asking you to add i8042.reset option to linux kernel options. That means resetting keyboard controller chip. This may either be the fault of APIC (interrupt controller) or ACPI (power management) - very likely latter, since it seems to be related to reboots. I wonder if somebody has filed a bug report for this. Syam chettan's problem may have been similar. Regards, Gokul Das --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with Ubuntu login
Hi, താങ്കള് വിവരിച്ച പ്രശ്നം താഴെക്കൊടിത്തിരിക്കുന്ന ഉബുണ്ടു ഫോറം സംവാദത്തിലേതുമായി സാമ്യം തോന്നുന്നു. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=622698 പരിഹാര മാര്ഗ്ഗങ്ങളും ആ സംവാദത്തില്ത്തന്നെയുണ്ട്. @Syam: ഗ്നൂ ലിനക്സിന്റെ പ്രശ്നം ചൂണ്ടിക്കാട്ടിയപ്പോള് പ്രതികാരം വീട്ടാനാണോ ചേട്ടാ വിന്റോസിന്റെ പ്രശ്നമെടുത്തിട്ടത്? ;D എന്തായാലും വ്യത്യസ്തമായൊരു പ്രശ്നം! PS2 പ്ളഗ് എന് പ്ളേ (PnP) ഇല്ലാത്തതു കാരണം സാധാരണ - പ്രവര്ത്തിക്കുന്ന സിസ്റ്റത്തില് മൗസ് കൊടുക്കുമ്പോഴാണ്, മൗസ് എടുക്കാതിരിക്കുക. എന്നിട്ടത് പരിഹരിച്ചതെങ്ങനെയായിരുന്നു, ചേട്ടാ? ആശംസകളോടെ, ഗോകുല് ദാസ് On May 12, 8:52 pm, Anoop wrote: > എനിക്ക് ഉബുണ്ടുവില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്യുമ്പോള് ഒരു പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നു. ഞാന് > ആദ്യം തന്നെ തെരഞ്ഞെടുത്ത ഒ.എസ്. ഉബുണ്ടു ആണെങ്കില് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് > ചെയ്യുന്നില്ല. സിസ്റ്റം റീസ്ടാര്ട്ട് ചെയ്താല് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് ചെയ്യും. > ആദ്യം വിന്ഡോസില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്തിട്ടാണ് ഉബുണ്ടുവിലേക്ക് പോകുന്നതെങ്കില് ഈ > പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നുമില്ല. ഇതേ പ്രശ്നം 8.04,8.10, 9.04 എന്നീ > വിതരണങ്ങളില് ഉണ്ട്. എന്റെ സിസ്റ്റം ലെനോവോ Y500 ലാപ്ടോപ്പ് ആണ് > ഞാനുപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്. > > -- > With Regards, > Anoop P --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Kerala University registration
Hi, On May 12, 6:52 pm, Aneesh A wrote: > No proper software testing. That is the problem, As I think. Yes. I agree. That would explain both the operability issues, security issues and compatibility issues. > On student side, no problem in using firefox. > On administrator side, ie, teacher's verification, there appears no photos Well, if we place a complaint we will have to be very specific- like a bug report. Exact nature and ways to recreate it will have to be specified. For example, if there is a firefox/W3C incompatibility, we will have to show atleast one instance, or define exact problem. The problem you mentioned could be an abnormal case. However, if it can be recreated multiple times in multiple platforms (like different systems, OSs or browser - even just 2 cases would suffice), it would qualify as an ideal example. > Also my friend tried to register, He got all SQL queries and all.. Exactly the kind of flaw that I am talking about. Whenever a server returns an error message, either it should be a standard message (like 404 file not found) or a Web app exception handled message. Anything else will contain sensitive information about internal system- like Web server configuration, Database information, SQL code etc. Did I mention that this server sent me back a portion of the web app's ASP code when tested? Just more information for a cracker to further his attempt. Anyway, that info about SQL is useful. > To Vishak, You are pretty good hacker. (Didn't meant hacker). I presume it was a compliment. Thanx! :D But I don't qualify as hacker by either Free software community definition or security community definition (cracker). My field is actually electronics & communication engg. I know more about protocols, encryption and security than web programming and designing. In other words, somebody else with expertise in these will have to explain to the university why their design is insane! > I am not blaming ASP. I wished that it had been done using php that's all. Technically, Java EE would satisfy these needs (security, scalability, responsiveness) better than either ASP or PHP. It has FOSS implementations too. But I know this is not point you make. This is not the first time public agencies are taking a contradictory stance on FOSS. Remember the e-VAT and PPT in +2 issues? We already have along list of these. Its about time they get reminded about this. > Also there is no password recovery form... It is a real problem as I > explained in blog. No arguments there. They simply didn't do their homework. To get password back, we have to first face their apathy. Even then, they just can't avoid accidentally causing password mixups! Regards, Gokul Das --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: vlcerror in ubuntu 9
ഉബുണ്ടുവിന്റെ സൈറ്റില് നിന്ന ഡൌണ്ലോഡ് ചെയ്ദ്ദടു സസ്നേഹം ബിജു സ്നേഹിക്കയില്ല ഞാന് നോവും ആത്മാവിനെ സ്നേഹിച്ചിടാത്തൊരു തത്വ ശാസ്ത്രത്തെയും 2009/5/12 Praveen A > 10 May 2009 9:49 AM നു, ബിജു എഴുതി: > > ഞാന് വി എല് സി ഡൌണ്ലോഡ് ചെയ്തു പക്ഷെ അതിന്റെ മെനു ഒന്നും വായിക്കാന് > > പറ്റുന്നില്ല എടുത്തുകളഞ്ഞിട്ടു വീണ്ടും ഇന്സ്റ്റോള് ചെയ്തു എന്നിട്ടും > > പഴയപോലെതന്നെ ഞാന് സ്ക്രീന്ഷോട്ട് അറ്റാച്ച് ചെയ്യുന്നുണ്ട് ഒന്ന് > സഹായിക്കണേ > > ഉബുണ്ടുവിന്റെ സൈറ്റില് നിന്നാണോ അതോ വിഎല്സിയുടെ സൈറ്റില് നിന്നാണോ > ഡൌണ്ലോഡ് ചെയ്തതു്? sudo ഉപയോഗിയ്ക്കുന്നതെന്തിനാണു്? > > ടോട്ടം പ്രവര്ത്തിയ്ക്കാത്തതു് കൊണ്ടാണോ അതോ വിഎല്സി കൂടുതല് > ഇഷ്ടമായതു് കൊണ്ടാണോ വിഎല്സി ഇന്സ്റ്റോള് ചെയ്യുന്നതു്? > > -- > പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് > I know my rights; I want my phone call! > What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? > (as seen on /.) > Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! > http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: vizinjam and free software
On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 22:11 +0530, stranger in black. wrote: > this is what saral is doing for last one year in his akshaya > kendra.. That is good. I wonder whether there are many other such places that interact with the public where Free Software is used -- places like browsing centres, DTP centres, poster/banner design and printing centres, etc. This is an indication of the extent to which Free Software is getting accepted by the public. It would be good if we can get people to post information about such businesses either on to a wiki or just to mail to the group. Best -- V. Sasi Kumar Free Software Foundation of India Please visit http://swatantryam.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: vizinjam and free software
this is what *saral *is doing for last one year in his akshaya kendra.. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:54 PM, V. Sasi Kumar wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:47 +0530, Yadu Rajiv wrote: > > > > > aah! guess we can always call them up and ask ? ^_^ > > > Of course! I had not noticed that they had given their phone number in > the notice. So now I know that they are using GMU/Linux and OpenOffice > for DTP. That is really interesting because I have not seen a DTP centre > that uses exclusively Free Software! Jai Ho! > > Best > -- > V. Sasi Kumar > Free Software Foundation of India > Please visit http://swatantryam.blogspot.com > > > > > -- m...@gnuise.co.cc www.gnuise.co.cc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Problem with Ubuntu login
Anoop wrote: > എനിക്ക് ഉബുണ്ടുവില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്യുമ്പോള് ഒരു പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നു. ഞാന് > ആദ്യം തന്നെ > തെരഞ്ഞെടുത്ത ഒ.എസ്. ഉബുണ്ടു ആണെങ്കില് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് ചെയ്യുന്നില്ല. > സിസ്റ്റം റീസ്ടാര്ട്ട് > ചെയ്താല് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് ചെയ്യും. ആദ്യം വിന്ഡോസില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്തിട്ടാണ് > ഉബുണ്ടുവിലേക്ക് > പോകുന്നതെങ്കില് ഈ പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നുമില്ല. ഇതേ പ്രശ്നം 8.04,8.10, 9.04 > എന്നീ > വിതരണങ്ങളില് ഉണ്ട്. എന്റെ സിസ്റ്റം ലെനോവോ Y500 ലാപ്ടോപ്പ് ആണ് > ഞാനുപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്. On a related note, I had a similar problem with a USB mouse connected to a PS2 port (using a converter, of course) and Windows. While Windows boots, I had to disconnect and reconnect the mouse for it to work properly. Syam --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Problem with Ubuntu login
എനിക്ക് ഉബുണ്ടുവില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്യുമ്പോള് ഒരു പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നു. ഞാന് ആദ്യം തന്നെ തെരഞ്ഞെടുത്ത ഒ.എസ്. ഉബുണ്ടു ആണെങ്കില് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് ചെയ്യുന്നില്ല. സിസ്റ്റം റീസ്ടാര്ട്ട് ചെയ്താല് കീബോര്ഡ് വര്ക്ക് ചെയ്യും. ആദ്യം വിന്ഡോസില് ലോഗിന് ചെയ്തിട്ടാണ് ഉബുണ്ടുവിലേക്ക് പോകുന്നതെങ്കില് ഈ പ്രശ്നം അനുഭവപ്പെടുന്നുമില്ല. ഇതേ പ്രശ്നം 8.04,8.10, 9.04 എന്നീ വിതരണങ്ങളില് ഉണ്ട്. എന്റെ സിസ്റ്റം ലെനോവോ Y500 ലാപ്ടോപ്പ് ആണ് ഞാനുപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്. -- With Regards, Anoop P --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] [OT]Zyxware has moved
Dear All, We have finally found a place to move to. Thanks for all those who have helped us in searching for a rental. Our new office address is Zyxware Technologies TC 3/118, Opp M. G. College Kesavadasapuram, Pattom P.O., Trivandrum. Our phone numbers are 0471-2449495, 09446069446. I hope that this new location is going to be more convenient for people to access Zyxware services and products. Best Regards Anoop John Zyxware Technologies -- http://www.zyxware.com http://www.anoopjohn.com http://www.thondomraughts.com "Be the change you wish to see in the world", M. K. Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[fsug-tvm] Re: Kerala University registration
Thank you for responses. No proper software testing. That is the problem, As I think. On student side, no problem in using firefox. On administrator side, ie, teacher's verification, there appears no photos Also my friend tried to register, He got all SQL queries and all.. To Vishak, You are pretty good hacker. (Didn't meant hacker). I am not blaming ASP. I wished that it had been done using php that's all. Also there is no password recovery form... It is a real problem as I explained in blog. I will try to create a letter and post the draft. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:44 PM, V. Sasi Kumar wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:34 -0700, Visakh wrote: > > > I will certainly give it a try- but I am not very experienced or > > skilled in writing formal letters like that. Still I will create a > > draft that others can improve upon. > > That is good enough. You can just recount the experience and point out > that this happened because the site is not designed to conform to > standards. This prevents many people from making use of the facility, > and also violates the policy of the government regarding Free Software. > Once we have a draft, we can work on it. > > > Meanwhile, I require Aneesh's help > > in projecting a realistic picture. I need a clear account of how the > > site didn't work on Firefox and how it messed up registrations. > > Aneesh, can you do it? > > I also hope that Aneesh will submit a complaint to the University on the > problems he and his friends have faced. > > Best > -- > V. Sasi Kumar > Free Software Foundation of India > Please visit http://swatantryam.blogspot.com > > > > > -- Call me: 9447926826 For all hardware and software services, Computer assembling, Linux & Windows Installation etc. Visit my blig http://xtenders.blogspot.com/ Earn money http://www.rupeemail.in/rupeemail/invite.do?in=MTY0NTQxJSMlaHlzaUt4V29EVkJVNFNxdTYwYWt0MzVDTw== http://www.inboxdollars.com/?r=ref4064290 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ "Freedom is the only law". "Freedom Unplugged" http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ilug-tvm" group. To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the website: www.ilug-tvm.org or the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---