Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
I'm done with this thread. Obviosly Nishandh is unwilling to learn, and makes tangential arguments. So be it. If this is what FOSS has going for it, then God help all of us! Regards Rajeev J Sebastian On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 6:45 AM, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Rajeev J Sebastian rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Nishandh, It is not my fault that you cannot use Linux. Use what is given to you, improve it, do whatever. Just stop ranting. Do something constructive. Linux is not non-techies yet, despite what Ubuntu marketing has fooled you into believing. Deal with it. Move on. I don't come to you *ranting* about Derrida. No you dont need to,but pls dont use Deconstruction techniques, saying u recommend to ban me, and then explaining it as that was not what i meant it puts us to problem. for me, no such method . I might take a course in that subject (paying teachers to teach me), or I might buy several books (pay authors to teach me). We prefer buying from the one with best Corporate social responsibility policy. And try e-books know? That they dont be at loss of heavy printing charges, environmental pollution, and avoidance of loss if the printed is not sold. I would certainly not ask anything before trying to find out on my own (such as via Google, or Wikipedia). I will use the limited resources of the people who make all this content available, in the most efficient manner possible. Which you belive is the most efficient manner possible, but I think not. The paper promisory note -or currency- has draw backs. Has no immediate source infromation. There are easy and destructive ways to make. http://www.countercurrents.org/curl030510.htm is an alternative, simply came out in TimeBanking discussion group (not to be adopted here, it has lots of problems, its just some history which worked out under conditions. But think of getting to live, when a foreign monopoly from adeveloped nation is imposing its international rates, without considering national economics of developing/undeveloped nations. What if a company achieves monopoly with the aid of patents it filed, and raising the product cost to extremes after it has become a norm?) Linux was not created by people who send rant emails Who said before? - it was created by a bunch of people who took what was available, used it despite all its shortcomings, and sometimes tried to make it better. You have stated that you are not willing to help yourself, Yeah, not willing to learning code. its a disability too.I can make six posters for Linux by the time i visualise an algorithm with operator overriding, overloading and things like pointers in C. My brothers do algorithm for me . nor are you willing to get help from manuals/blogs/source code, nor are you willing to pay someone else to do it for you. I do pay. I have paid.(i have a genuine Windows vista buisiness edition, and a win 7 ordered and paid,to be obtained in a week) and I pay for Linux too, just that it is not in cash. I like the other way more. Looking for affordable arrangements with FOSS video masters (Ready for cash transact, if an MOU is achieved). Instead, you want a forum to post angry, ungrammatical (i.e., difficult to read) emails about linux not working for non-techies. You hope for free support but then you diss all the people who actually made this stuff for you to use. I dint DISS ALL THE PEOPLE. Where did I? ur attempt to turn programmers against me?they read everything, not just ur posts. waste time on it. people get dissed when there is logic in what is said againist them and when they feel they are responsible for it. We never put unknown strange men in bad clothes we meet on streets at gun point, when they continuously say F*** words, and utter real illogically.We try to avoid them. Untill we feel ther is some logic in wat he says, which others could understand in a wrong way. Untill they are real problem according to our beliefs. You say the developers who make this stuff are idiots and aren't obviosly thinking about the user. I feel userfriendliness is not addressed the way it should be. U already supported this view, saying linux is not upto non-techies. HOW DO I MEAN THAT ALL PROGRAMMERS ARE IDIOTS? Are you sure you're worth responding to? dont respond to me. i appreciate responses to the opinions i raise. THEY ARE SHARED! Your language has definitely improved; danks! I hope your explorations will go deeper than just superficial comments about the state of Linux. I would listen to as far as i can, but deal with userfriendliness issues, and publicity. You understand it as superficial, I understand it as could be superficial but SIGNIFICANT and Its not just Linux,its everything in FOSS. Regards Rajeev J Sebastian -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because
[fsug-tvm] DVD repositories are finished downloadin???
Friends, i installed ubuntu 10.04 in my friends pc and he dont have internet connection to install further softwares he need repositories can i get them in zyxware? please let me know once all repositories finished thanks inadvance. -- Susarla Raghuram Research Fellow Space Physics Laboratory Vikram Sarabhai space center Thiruvananthapuram. 695022 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] vedio player blue screen problem
Friends, recently in installation of 10.04 installation i found this problem like all movie files when i am playing with any player it is appearing with blue screen i did all display settings and graphics card (NVIDIA) setting but nothing worked out. if i reboot after finding problem it is working normally somtimes only this is happening. any suggestions or solutions or comments regarding this issue?? -- Susarla Raghuram Research Fellow Space Physics Laboratory Vikram Sarabhai space center Thiruvananthapuram. 695022 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] vedio player blue screen problem
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:23 PM, raghu ram raghuramsusa...@gmail.comwrote: Friends, recently in installation of 10.04 installation i found this problem like all movie files when i am playing with any player it is appearing with blue screen i did all display settings and graphics card (NVIDIA) setting but nothing worked out. if i reboot after finding problem it is working normally somtimes only this is happening. Check video settings of player...Try using stable release of codecs -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Problems while using Canon LBP 3000 Printer in Ubuntu 9.10
Hello I got a similar situation for our LBP 2900 printer(Ubuntu 9.10)..After some extensive googling and some guts instinct i installed some driver and printer got detected and driver got instaleed..But its not printing ,shows only processing and continues to shows that only..I had never tried it in 10.04..i think any solution to Ershad's problem wl be helpful to me also... Vishnu Jyothi Software Engineer Kran Consulting +919744113537 http://www.vishnujyothi.posterous.com/ On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Ershad K ersha...@gmail.com wrote: even i faced this problem in fedora 12, but it was rectified by installing a driver which i got by just googling Which version did you use? There are many drivers available in web, it would be a great help if you can give me a link to the driver which works fine. I hope the principal is ready to change the distro from Ubuntu to Fedora. Thanks. - Ershad -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Regards Vishnu Jyothi -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] vedio player blue screen problem
One more problem that I am encountering i s ... the video is not playing in normal mode .. ie when i resize it or when i want to play it with the system menu bars it is not playing .. instead .. the video is playing only in the MAXIMIZED mode On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:18, Adhin D mejaithekni...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:23 PM, raghu ram raghuramsusa...@gmail.comwrote: Friends, recently in installation of 10.04 installation i found this problem like all movie files when i am playing with any player it is appearing with blue screen i did all display settings and graphics card (NVIDIA) setting but nothing worked out. if i reboot after finding problem it is working normally somtimes only this is happening. Check video settings of player...Try using stable release of codecs -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Best Regards, Sistla Venkata Abhishek II Year Computer Science Student, /* DB ( MySQL ) , CMS ( Drupal ) , IDE ( NetBeans - 6.7.1 ) and Language ( Java ) */ /* Inherited from my bro !!! Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought -- Albert Szent Gyorgyi If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldnot be called research..would it ? --Albert Einstein */ MHVR , Hyderabad. Ph: +91 9052 749 799 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: network manager auto reconnect
Noone can help me? On May 11, 10:18 pm, abhisheklalned...@gmail.com abhisheklalned...@gmail.com wrote: Any way to make network manager automatically reconnect if DSL connection is dropped? i am on Ubuntu 10.04 Connection: Bsnl Broad Band * I am using network manager to connect, modem is not configured to automatically sign in, because it reduces the torrent speed -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page:http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
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Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
2010/5/11 Yadu Nand yadudoc1...@gmail.com: Hi Praveen, Just to clarify, please check this paste--http://pastebin.com/Wuymp9Qn Thats the output from sudo fdisk -l What you wanted to clarify with this paste? You can easily find the device name? That is exactly what we are discussing, why is it not there by default? Because, Linux is not about someone else making choices for you. It's about giving the user control. How is that relevant here? Someone has already made that choice for you. The question is how easy it is for you change that? Being Free Software a user can always change the behavior, our discussion is about whether those choices are best for newbies? Don't you think it is easier for an experienced user to turn off auto mount than a new user to edit fstab? When I plug in my external drive with one NTFS drive and one ext3 drive, they are automatically mounted. I'm still wondering why it is a problem for Nishandh when no other person has this problem. There are other ways to do. Editing fstab is not the only way We are talking about an easy way. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
2010/5/12 nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com: 1) google for an answer Practical? User is supposed to own two systems, and connect the other to repair the faulty system to discuss online. If both are down, spend 20Rs/hour at internet cafe. (consider the rate of breakdown at USER level, frequency of incidence of errors in the mailing list itself gives an idea). we need better support system, and afterall. a better OS.(productive plans for betterment of OS) Lets just think about this specific case, did you try to find an answer to this particular problem with ntfs formatted external disk using google? What di you find? Considering you are very active in this list, I doubt you have any difficulty with internet access. Nishandh, To solve any problem, we need to understand it. Most of the time, most of us (including me) find it easier to blame someone else. But we need people to do hard part as well. To go back to your original question. Can you reproduce this error in any other system? 2) write to distro developers; learn to ask smart questions before you do that User resigns from job, and invest time, energy and money in laerning code, to ask smart questions. I see you already spent lot of time in this mailing list. Did you try to contact Ubuntu developers? It does not take as much effort as you make it to be. 3) send your stupid rants to distro mailing lists I will try to make it more full in meaning and defenition. when i clearly explained that the specific error is not the issue, in the first post I made, priority should have to make opinions about what i presented as an issue.and not to rectify the problems, even without asking for necessary details. I also explained that without specific cases, it is difficult to solve an issue. 4) RTFM 5) RTFS 6) fix the source to do what you want Do you mean user should learn manual, source code and determine things to sort? please refer to the earlier posts, in which the 'user' is contextualy described. You mean software testers i think. Try imagining a response to saying that to a 7th-standard students crowd, who are users of Linux. Get a car with a lot of Kevlar and Lexan. What do you suggest a user do? It is easier to expect others to solve issues, but if you want to see your problems to get fixed, you will need to make an effort. 7th standard student has a support path via their teachers. Teachers can call a toll free number to get support. I intentionally poked the behaviour of intentionally making things complex for the user in FOSS world. If a solution is implemented in one distro, and Give specific issues and we will try to solve it, generic statements like these are not going to help get anything improved. not readily adopted into another, then its something else which is working inside. Every distro should submit their changes upstream. If you care about this, give this a high priority when choosing a distro. People has to be made aware, that these distros are not directed towards betterment of society, but intentionaly slowing down of evolution of linux. Such distros and applications deserves no contributor attention. Let some ambassadors of propreitoryship handle it.If any distro is found to be so, ilug-tvm should stop promoting it. Can I suggest you to explore how Ubuntu handles translations? Don't you think developers of various distros ALREADY KNOW THIS FACT? Everyone and his mother is trying to develop a easy to use distro. NO, as it is percieved. There are respected efforts, but not entirely.either directed to wasteful processes as in making new distros, or the intentional maintanace of complexity earlier said. Again, give specifics, it is hard to solve issues based on such statements. The same applies to ilug TVM, we may get a lot of more participation, if we have a better policy and better declared priorities. A better defined vision and plan for short term and long term. Why don't you start a draft and see how people respond? -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
2010/5/12 Harish CM cmha...@gmail.com: Look at it this way - as a sysadmin I would not want removable media (floppy cd/dvd pen drives etc to enter (for fear of contamination of my network) or taken away (information security) so much so such devices are disabled - and that is precisely where the problem lies. Most of us are worried about one's own machine and one is free to do whatever as long as it is standalone. Come networking, the scenario changes drastically. DOS/Windows came into being in the standalone mode and is good and functional in that environ. Harish, As a sysadmin, you are supposed to know all these. But a normal user need know about ntfs systems or fstab to get their friends external drive to work. Also, knowing more is, as far as I am concerned, better than knowing nothing - it does it all for you- attitude is good enough as long as it works; when it fails one does not know what is to be done - and that is bad Yes, that is the problem here. We need a mechanism to fix things when things break. It could be training or external support. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
wow that formatting was one hell of a overkill On May 12, 11:04 pm, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/12 nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com: This is just a repetition of the above, with some high lighting. pardon for using RTF, but I would like to get opinion on whether this seems offensive. I thought we are already through this. Hell YES, it is offensive. Try reading your mail in this screenshot. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page:http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en rtf.png 216KViewDownload -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
@ Praveen, being specific about the problem, it occured when i was running on Ubuntu. [at that time I had an 'Almann' virus in my XP, which disabled safe removal of removable media. I had to pull HDD off, when i see there is no active read / write. (every x seconds , some read/write used to be there, checking whether a system folder is ther on the removable media, and if not , rite that ystem folder with malicious code inside. The same way most of us know, how autorun mal scripts work in win platform)]. there was no visible corruption of ntfs partition. When these media, which where not safely removed, are connected to my ubuntu system,It gave a message. A dialoge box, which contained a command, a long one, which should be pasted/typed to a terminal. Then I formated the XP to get rid of the virus. And had to reinstall Linux, as i dint have access to skilled men in replacing the grub disabled by windows insatalation. This time I did a LinuxMint, it had no issues with removable media.I donno know whether it was an advantage of Mint or because the virus was not there, which prevented safe removal. Now this lock happned only in the ntfs partition, which was not safely removed from windows. Whenever i was able to kill the virus threads running in XP, I was able to mount the ntfs.(killing these threads were a strenous game,with three virus processes running at same time, each getting activted in some six second interval.once the processes are killed, XP would work normal untill next reboot.) Now what i can do to reconstruct the situation is to install the same distro again, and push an external HDD with ntfs partition and look for the mesage. I dont remember what the message was. all th statements you made, I agree. I will try drafting, which will be posted. I think, a rough one in a week. ther was a thread initiated, yesterday, reagrding the *most fine tuneable distro*. Inspired by Srihari's quote. A distro wich is available as both a developer's tool, and also as desktop users tool.[we have debian and ubuntu for the prupose, sharing much of the internals as far as i have read. But the discusion occurs in different forums. need to find more efective bridges.] I tried i could start the discusion there,i think i failed to convey the significance. or there is no significance for that at all, some solution is already there, which I am not aware of. The opinions i raised regarding user friendliness are not my personal, atleast in some cases, either it was from 'my own experiance in the past wen i had only one system with no internet connection', or from the expressions i gathered in the few hours at an ILUG tvm stall at kannur engg college, from the public. I had real internal problem when i adviced Linux OS to people like fruit stall vendors, language teachers and drivers and all. As far as i does, i ask them to be familiar with FOSS apps available in Win platform - OOfice, Gimp, Firefox etc, and not the OS as such, and never advice anything more than a dual boot. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/12 Harish CM cmha...@gmail.com: Look at it this way - as a sysadmin I would not want removable media (floppy cd/dvd pen drives etc to enter (for fear of contamination of my network) or taken away (information security) so much so such devices are disabled - and that is precisely where the problem lies. Most of us are worried about one's own machine and one is free to do whatever as long as it is standalone. Come networking, the scenario changes drastically. DOS/Windows came into being in the standalone mode and is good and functional in that environ. Harish, As a sysadmin, you are supposed to know all these. But a normal user need know about ntfs systems or fstab to get their friends external drive to work. Also, knowing more is, as far as I am concerned, better than knowing nothing - it does it all for you- attitude is good enough as long as it works; when it fails one does not know what is to be done - and that is bad Yes, that is the problem here. We need a mechanism to fix things when things break. It could be training or external support. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
@ Bipinkumar, Praveen, yeah! who the hell did that :P hehehe. he wont do that again, provided he get some reponses from those using other colour themes. I have a perception that majority users use dark text on light background.(wrong?) @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the exact one i made or meant . I made a pale yellow distinguition for two parts of conversation in a white background. Somebody called me and said the picture tube monitors are already yellowish, so i tried light blue differentiation between 1st and 2nd person's opinions. Well I am quite curious how colourfull web pages would get rendered with that theme. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:51 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: wow that formatting was one hell of a overkill On May 12, 11:04 pm, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/12 nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com: This is just a repetition of the above, with some high lighting. pardon for using RTF, but I would like to get opinion on whether this seems offensive. I thought we are already through this. Hell YES, it is offensive. Try reading your mail in this screenshot. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp:// groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en rtf.png 216KViewDownload -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
@Nishandh i still have the feeling that linux is not going to be user friendly for another forth coming decade. Linux is not user-friendly?. It _is_ user-friendly! It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly... Just a quote in the last decade on the web from an unknown source... ;-) Freedom Is The Only Law... Subin Sebastian College of Engineering Munnar - 685612 +91-944-6475826 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] 10 Must-Read eBooks for Social Media Lovers
hello all this is the link http://mashable.com/2009/12/21/must-read-ebooks/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+(Mashable) U can download the full book Ullas -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
hi it would useful if people read the mailing list practices posted on the group' s homepage. http://kandalaya.org/guidelines.html it would make everyone's life better. further it is my understanding that once a person sign up for a group then its his/her onus to respect the the rules/guidlines of the group(which obviously includes not posting HTML formatted message, as far as my understanding of those guidelines goes). however if person has any problems with those guidelines then he/she shouldn't sign up in the first place. thanks bipin On May 13, 1:32 am, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: @ Bipinkumar, Praveen, yeah! who the hell did that :P hehehe. he wont do that again, provided he get some reponses from those using other colour themes. I have a perception that majority users use dark text on light background.(wrong?) @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the exact one i made or meant . I made a pale yellow distinguition for two parts of conversation in a white background. Somebody called me and said the picture tube monitors are already yellowish, so i tried light blue differentiation between 1st and 2nd person's opinions. Well I am quite curious how colourfull web pages would get rendered with that theme. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:51 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: wow that formatting was one hell of a overkill On May 12, 11:04 pm, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/12 nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com: This is just a repetition of the above, with some high lighting. pardon for using RTF, but I would like to get opinion on whether this seems offensive. I thought we are already through this. Hell YES, it is offensive. Try reading your mail in this screenshot. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp:// groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en rtf.png 216KViewDownload -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #// # Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #// # -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page:http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
2010/5/13 nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com: @ praveen, that rendering of text and background is not the exact one i made or meant . I made a pale yellow distinguition for two parts of conversation in a white background. Somebody called me and said the picture tube monitors are already yellowish, so i tried light blue differentiation between 1st and That is exactly the problem with rich text formatting. It won't be the same as you think it is going to be. Why would I let you decide what theme I chose? 2nd person's opinions. Well I am quite curious how colourfull web pages would get rendered with that theme. It is email application, I expect text not colorful web pages. You browse web, but you read email. If still want to make it colorful with images and all, blog about it and post a link. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
