[fsug-tvm] What would be the best practice for the moment?
Problem: 1)Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' [Fact, context] 2)Software providers in the field of GNU/Linux does not create it to be compatible with every distro/OS version[Fact] 3)Additional softwares/updates need to be installed for specific purposes,[Fact] 4)Current GNU/Linux systems has a high risk of breaking without warning, when softwares profile is changed[Fact] 5)The students who learn GNU/Linux and associated systems does not have enough professisonal functionality** because of comparitively low-perfoming professional softwares in FOSS arena.They fail to get job.[Fact, main context of thread] **apart from server side/embedded/mobile technologies in case of (5) ... As a key player in FOSS in Kerala, what would be FSUG-TVM priority? (please select more than one if necessary) 6)Give thrust on supporting the Distro and version the state has adopted(ubuntu), as specifically biased support could help boost its spread. 7)Answer every possible querry in FLOSS, based on individual MailingList members interest. 8)Support any other distro [one or more] : schoolOS, Mint,debian, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, ArtistX, Novell, .. ..n 9)Strongly plead the govt for investing heavily in developing professional GNU/Linux and compatible software systems(mainly owing to reason 5) 10)Strongly plead the Govt to support heavily in user-developer communication systems, as it is necessary to rectify break downs(read along with 4) 11)Get into long term contract ( financial aid ) with Mac / Win owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility :D 12)Get into long term contract with professional application providers (Adobe, Avid, Apple... etc) owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility 13)Get into long term contract with FOSS software providers as this would explode possibilities in near future, eventhough not right now. 11)something else. .. -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] FOSS is Nice but.....
FOSS is Nice but. Govt. must take initiative for promote E-governance and ICT among govt employees. we have govt employees who had not even seen their dept. websites. But they are well at orkut and facebook. Govt must study the feasibility of imposing ICT for various depts. At Govt. the higher level employees (not all) not even seen a system in their life. but equiped with brand new m/c at their seat covered neatly.with yellow cloth provided. Fortunately rats enjoy a happy life with 'Mouse'. The Govt. employees must change their attitude for ICT.. they must know that the computers r not job eaters. And the really interesting thing is that ... they a very happy and interested in the services of ICT from Railway/IRCTC like firms. When comes to their dept.. a BIG N! Not bother about whether it is Windows/Linux remember the old slogan COMPUTERS R JOBEATERS JOB EATERS R MAN EATERS! make ICT mandatory at GOVT. Offices. Make govt offices a NOT PAPERLESS but LESS PAPER at least. Then we play with FOSS it is nice.. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:22 PM, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: 1)Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' [Fact, context] 2)Software providers in the field of GNU/Linux does not create it to be compatible with every distro/OS version[Fact] 3)Additional softwares/updates need to be installed for specific purposes,[Fact] 4)Current GNU/Linux systems has a high risk of breaking without warning, when softwares profile is changed[Fact] 5)The students who learn GNU/Linux and associated systems does not have enough professisonal functionality** because of comparitively low-perfoming professional softwares in FOSS arena.They fail to get job.[Fact, main context of thread] **apart from server side/embedded/mobile technologies in case of (5) ... As a key player in FOSS in Kerala, what would be FSUG-TVM priority? (please select more than one if necessary) 6)Give thrust on supporting the Distro and version the state has adopted(ubuntu), as specifically biased support could help boost its spread. 7)Answer every possible querry in FLOSS, based on individual MailingList members interest. 8)Support any other distro [one or more] : schoolOS, Mint,debian, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, ArtistX, Novell, .. ..n 9)Strongly plead the govt for investing heavily in developing professional GNU/Linux and compatible software systems(mainly owing to reason 5) 10)Strongly plead the Govt to support heavily in user-developer communication systems, as it is necessary to rectify break downs(read along with 4) 11)Get into long term contract ( financial aid ) with Mac / Win owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility :D 12)Get into long term contract with professional application providers (Adobe, Avid, Apple... etc) owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility 13)Get into long term contract with FOSS software providers as this would explode possibilities in near future, eventhough not right now. 11)something else. .. -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
Aashik, Dont take this in a bad sense but You are being Bossy. -- Rahul On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:31 PM, ashik salahudeen aash...@gmail.com wrote: I havent had access to broadbamd all these days and wasn't checking the ilug-tvm discussions. After reading through all the emails i have come to the conclusion that this thread should stop here. The only people who contributed constructively would be Praveen, Rajeev J Sebastian and nishandh in that order. Thank you Praveen for your patience and time - yours was the best way to approach the issue. Nishandh please do come up with a draft and start a different thread. Rajeev your views are valid but involve some learning curve - its not the way of cry babies but of dedicated, committed users. Its sad that not many on the list agreed and went so far as to call for bans. Blind righteousness seemed to be the order of the day. rest of the members , this is your admin speaking. usage of terms such as WTF and RTFM are fine by the list. unless otherwise used in a derogatory manner its fine. Words take meaning from the context and not from the dictionary. Jemshid and others it would be nice if you can read more about history of FOSS especially that of gnu , linux and bsds. Seriously. One more thing. Please try to use plain text while emailing to this list. As explained a while ago in other threads the rules are not strictly enforced because we dont want to turn away new users. But after you have been told about the rule explicitly its not a nice thing to keep violating it in the name of freedom. Obey them as you would obey the traffic rules - they are in place for a purpose. Any further replies to this thread will be met with moderation. -- Aashik -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
On 14 May 2010 13:00, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: @Jinesh, I am understanding the evils of RTF more and more, hope we are working out the policy of not using RTF.Evevnthough I look like thallandammaavaa njan nannavillaha, Simple. Your first mail to Subject : Linux haters blog looks like this http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6861/screenshot1uz.png in gmail's terminal theme (which praveen a uses). READ. I can't still stop my laugh over seeing the term readability in that image! -- Hiran Venugopalan Usability / IxD Geek, Ubiqurio IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | W : http://hiran.in -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Why multimedia codecs are not includes in ubuntu?
Since ubuntu does not contains multimedia plug ins, i used to install it (gstreamer) from debian DVD. Why ubuntu dont includes these important things by default in it? Debian developers are distributing these items whithout any legal problems.! -- Sent from my mobile device -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: Changing ROOT password in ubuntu
Hello friends... Thanks for your replays PASSWD Command works. But that was not i was actually asking about. I could change the ROOT PASSWORD With that command. But, when i try to open a directory as root using a nautilus script (root nautilus here), the dialogue box appearing is not accepting the new password. It is still my regular user password(created at the time of installation). When i use ROOT as user name and the new password in the login screen, it works. In a nutshell, i want to change the password, which is asked when we try to open a folder as root with full privilage using nautilus script. On 5/6/10, Sistla Venkata Abhishek svabhis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vyshakh Open the *Terminal* from Applications -- Accessories and then type in *sudo su* enter the password and you will be logged in as the root ... Then type *passwd* and press enter the system will prompt for the new unix password .. set it to whatever you want ... and then confirm it ... thats it and you're done. Coming to the second part of your question ... root on the unix/linux means that it is the super user or the Administrator if you are from Win background.. So the root will have the permissions and capabilities to do anything on the system ... and this can be dangerous at times hence ubuntu comes in with the user as the default and then changes to the root only when required and only after prompting for the password ... !!! :) :) On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 09:40, Vyshakh Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: Hai, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 as my default operating system. I want to change the existing password of the 'ROOT'. Currently it is the user password. Also please give me a short lecture on 'What is Root in Linux?' -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Best Regards, Sistla Venkata Abhishek II Year Computer Science Student, /* DB ( MySQL ) , CMS ( Drupal ) , IDE ( NetBeans - 6.7.1 ) and Language ( Java ) */ /* Inherited from my bro !!! Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought -- Albert Szent Gyorgyi If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldnot be called research..would it ? --Albert Einstein */ MHVR , Hyderabad. Ph: +91 9052 749 799 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Sent from my mobile device -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] 3gp, amr
Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. -- Sent from my mobile device -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] I cant play 3gp,amr
Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. On 5/16/10, Abdullah sheikhmdabdul...@gmail.com wrote: We all are inspired a lot from that trip as it give an immense thought to work in a real environment and work for the most deserving. On 5/12/10, Jaideep Khandelwal jdk2...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: kunal gupta dirtydevil2...@gmail.com Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Lugb_ml] OLPC trip To: NIKHIL BANSAL niksecb...@gmail.com Cc: lugb...@lugb.in congrats manud and team lugb, This is the best possible trip and excursion tour anyone can have in which you shared your knowledge with village students. Congrats manud on successful completion of this project on OLPC. +1 to skbohra, this trip must be taken as an ideal trip to include in any project involving provision of education to village students. Cheers !! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM, NIKHIL BANSAL niksecb...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Manu , Thank you very much for sharing this nice and adventurous experience with all of us. This seems really an interesting experience for everyone who joined it and obviously nice things to be learnt from there. Hope this trip will help LUGB in future all the way. I can subscribe the wiki work regarding OLPC trip willingly. :) If anyone else also wants to add, please come forward. Because it would be nice to have two than one. ;) Cheers ! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Manu Dixit manud...@gmail.com wrote: I am feeling great to inform that the Kikarwali trip was a great experience for all of us. The events : May 7 : - 6 AM Departure from Bikaner to Kikarwali. - 12 noon A small introductory meeting with the teaching staff and administration authorities of the School. - 7 PM Briefing the public and students of Kikarwali about the concept of OLPC, XO laptops were shown. May 8 : - 7 AM - 12 Noon , First session with the students , teams of 2 to 3 members took the charge of each class, basics of computers were covered - Evening : Practical sessions, children were divided into groups of 4 or 5 and were given a XO (due to the limited number of laptops). May 9 : - In-spite of a Sunday, some children turned up to the school right in the morning , more practical sessions , apps like write , paint , speak , camera , wikipedia were covered. - A projector was arranged , children were shown some small movie and some XO stuff. - LUGB vs Kikarwali cricket match in the evening. May 10 : - 7 AM onwards Children in large number ( from 3 schools ) gathered. - Newer ones were shown shown some video about the usage of XO (almost instantaneously shot by a small cam) - Q A sessions were held , (some toffees were distributed meanwhile). - An adventurous visit to the India Pakistan border, location: 41 PS, talked to the Inspector Gaurav and saw Pakistan to the closest one can go.(BEST) May 11 : - A group of 3 (Paras, Kartik Sahil) went to a private school for teaching. - Local Teachers were taught the basic usage of the XO. - Sharing (USP of XO) was the theme of the day. - Discussed some issues and views with the authorities on how to continue the project. - 5 PM returning trip additional Info Head Counts : 200 (approx) Schools Covered : 3 LUGB members (in alphabetical order) : Abhinav Chittora Chitrapal Singh Kartik Manocha Manu Dixit Nitesh Kumar ( a special mention for our junior, youngest of all ) Paras Kuhad Sahil Kataria Vilas Setia Virendra Sethiya The effort was one of the kind in the whole of Rajasthan ( i guess the laptops were very first to get distributed in this part -covering 5 to 6 states- of the country) Finally we need to document the whole information - photos, videos ,wiki ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India ) so I ask someone to come forward as some of us would be having exams right away. I would say the memories would remain with us for a long long time , people were friendly , reception full on , very intelligent children and the best of the food. With Confidence that the project would continue Manu Dixit ___ Lugb_ml mailing list lugb...@lugb.in http://lugb.in/mailman/listinfo/lugb_ml_lugb.in ___ Lugb_ml mailing list lugb...@lugb.in http://lugb.in/mailman/listinfo/lugb_ml_lugb.in -- dirtydevil www.dirtydebiandevil.wordpress.com Kunal Gupta, 3rd year, ECE, Engineering college bikaner. ___ Lugb_ml mailing list lugb...@lugb.in http://lugb.in/mailman/listinfo/lugb_ml_lugb.in -- Freedom is the
[fsug-tvm] I cant use INTENAL MODEM
Hai friends, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 as default OS. I've a SMART LINK SL2800 Internal Dial Up Mode. Please help me how to configure, install, and use my modem.. I've a CD bundled with it. -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] 3gp, amr
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. Try with SM player. -- Raru Rv +91 9633 9217 44 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
2010/5/17 ashik salahudeen aash...@gmail.com: Thread is still open for discussion. I was merely expressing my views. As said elsewhere mod hats are on only for a short while and will be explicitly made clear when they are on. The thing is, the purpose here is not clear at all - what exactly is being achieved here ? Now there is evaluation and rating for threads too? We are having a dialogue here. The thread will stop when it falls to a monologue. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog
2010/5/14 Rahul Ramesh msg4ra...@gmail.com: Aashik, Dont take this in a bad sense but You are being Bossy. That is what I was telling on the other thread. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Why multimedia codecs are not includes in ubuntu?
2010/5/16 Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com: Since ubuntu does not contains multimedia plug ins, i used to install it (gstreamer) from debian DVD. Why ubuntu dont includes these important things by default in it? Debian developers are distributing these items whithout any legal problems.! Debian is a not for profit organisation run by volunteers where as Ubuntu is a Canonical, a for-profit company, sponsored project. It is attractive for patent holders to file cases against entities where they can get some money. I think Novell and Mandriva pay license fees for the codecs to include them, Red Hat and Ubuntu chose not to ship them. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. -- aashik -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] 3gp, amr
2010/5/16 Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com: Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. You could try these packages from debian multimedia http://mirror.optus.net/debian-multimedia/pool/main/3/3gpwiz/ http://mirror.optus.net/debian-multimedia/pool/main/a/ you can configure repositories following instructions from http://debian-multimedia.org/ -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Changing ROOT password in ubuntu
Kind of a folder / drive lock eh .. !!! i've been trying the samething .. For example ... *Login Password : abhishek * The drive password should be something different right like ... *Authentication : AbhiSheK* guys this is something important coz we can give access to our root ( file system ) by telling the root password but with that he will be able to access the whole system including the partitioned drives .. so to change this any ideas ... Many thanks for the elaboration Vyshakh .. On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 13:45, Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: Hello friends... Thanks for your replays PASSWD Command works. But that was not i was actually asking about. I could change the ROOT PASSWORD With that command. But, when i try to open a directory as root using a nautilus script (root nautilus here), the dialogue box appearing is not accepting the new password. It is still my regular user password(created at the time of installation). When i use ROOT as user name and the new password in the login screen, it works. In a nutshell, i want to change the password, which is asked when we try to open a folder as root with full privilage using nautilus script. On 5/6/10, Sistla Venkata Abhishek svabhis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Vyshakh Open the *Terminal* from Applications -- Accessories and then type in *sudo su* enter the password and you will be logged in as the root ... Then type *passwd* and press enter the system will prompt for the new unix password .. set it to whatever you want ... and then confirm it ... thats it and you're done. Coming to the second part of your question ... root on the unix/linux means that it is the super user or the Administrator if you are from Win background.. So the root will have the permissions and capabilities to do anything on the system ... and this can be dangerous at times hence ubuntu comes in with the user as the default and then changes to the root only when required and only after prompting for the password ... !!! :) :) On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 09:40, Vyshakh Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: Hai, I'm using ubuntu 9.10 as my default operating system. I want to change the existing password of the 'ROOT'. Currently it is the user password. Also please give me a short lecture on 'What is Root in Linux?' -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Best Regards, Sistla Venkata Abhishek II Year Computer Science Student, /* DB ( MySQL ) , CMS ( Drupal ) , IDE ( NetBeans - 6.7.1 ) and Language ( Java ) */ /* Inherited from my bro !!! Research is to see what everybody else has seen, and to think what nobody else has thought -- Albert Szent Gyorgyi If we knew what it was we were doing, it wouldnot be called research..would it ? --Albert Einstein */ MHVR , Hyderabad. Ph: +91 9052 749 799 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Sent from my mobile device -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Best Regards, Sistla Venkata Abhishek II Year Computer Science Student, /* DB ( MySQL ) , CMS ( Drupal ) , IDE ( NetBeans - 6.7.1 ) and Language ( Java ) */ MHVR , Hyderabad. Ph: +91 9052 749 799 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
2010/5/17 Ashik S aash...@gmail.com: Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt5/html-email-multi.htm -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Ashik S aash...@gmail.com wrote: Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. Hi Aashik, The multipart email bit was an insider joke :D I really doubt non-techies can send multipart emails very easily ;) Regards Rajeev J Sebastian -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. On May 17, 11:52 am, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: 1)Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' [Fact, context] 2)Software providers in the field of GNU/Linux does not create it to be compatible with every distro/OS version[Fact] 3)Additional softwares/updates need to be installed for specific purposes,[Fact] 4)Current GNU/Linux systems has a high risk of breaking without warning, when softwares profile is changed[Fact] 5)The students who learn GNU/Linux and associated systems does not have enough professisonal functionality** because of comparitively low-perfoming professional softwares in FOSS arena.They fail to get job.[Fact, main context of thread] **apart from server side/embedded/mobile technologies in case of (5) ... As a key player in FOSS in Kerala, what would be FSUG-TVM priority? (please select more than one if necessary) 6)Give thrust on supporting the Distro and version the state has adopted(ubuntu), as specifically biased support could help boost its spread. 7)Answer every possible querry in FLOSS, based on individual MailingList members interest. 8)Support any other distro [one or more] : schoolOS, Mint,debian, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, ArtistX, Novell, .. ..n 9)Strongly plead the govt for investing heavily in developing professional GNU/Linux and compatible software systems(mainly owing to reason 5) 10)Strongly plead the Govt to support heavily in user-developer communication systems, as it is necessary to rectify break downs(read along with 4) 11)Get into long term contract ( financial aid ) with Mac / Win owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility :D 12)Get into long term contract with professional application providers (Adobe, Avid, Apple... etc) owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility 13)Get into long term contract with FOSS software providers as this would explode possibilities in near future, eventhough not right now. 11)something else. .. -- #// # Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #// # -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page:http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:52 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. @Bipin, Unfortunately, I cant imagine user 'Govt' sitting in front of a boot screen. I can think about end users only.Govt is the decision maker and enforcer. Could it be very wrong, if somebody says Govt asked a group of people, and they made this mistake of instructing govt to use the specific distro in administrative wings? Consider the frequency of breakdowns as evident in this mailing list itself. Some end users are not comfortable with current framework to support FLOSS. What would be the recommendation if Govt gives the people an opportunity regarding improvement of FLOSS and support frame work? This opportunity is always there. On May 17, 11:52 am, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: 1)Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' [Fact, context] 2)Software providers in the field of GNU/Linux does not create it to be compatible with every distro/OS version[Fact] 3)Additional softwares/updates need to be installed for specific purposes,[Fact] 4)Current GNU/Linux systems has a high risk of breaking without warning, when softwares profile is changed[Fact] 5)The students who learn GNU/Linux and associated systems does not have enough professisonal functionality** because of comparitively low-perfoming professional softwares in FOSS arena.They fail to get job.[Fact, main context of thread] **apart from server side/embedded/mobile technologies in case of (5) ... As a key player in FOSS in Kerala, what would be FSUG-TVM priority? (please select more than one if necessary) 6)Give thrust on supporting the Distro and version the state has adopted(ubuntu), as specifically biased support could help boost its spread. 7)Answer every possible querry in FLOSS, based on individual MailingList members interest. 8)Support any other distro [one or more] : schoolOS, Mint,debian, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, ArtistX, Novell, .. ..n 9)Strongly plead the govt for investing heavily in developing professional GNU/Linux and compatible software systems(mainly owing to reason 5) 10)Strongly plead the Govt to support heavily in user-developer communication systems, as it is necessary to rectify break downs(read along with 4) 11)Get into long term contract ( financial aid ) with Mac / Win owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility :D 12)Get into long term contract with professional application providers (Adobe, Avid, Apple... etc) owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility 13)Get into long term contract with FOSS software providers as this would explode possibilities in near future, eventhough not right now. 11)something else. .. -- #// # Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #// # -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unpluggedhttp://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visithttp:// groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Ashik S aash...@gmail.com wrote: Of course. As I said I was merely expressing my views. I didnt ask anyone to accept it, nor to abide by it. I think Rajeev mentioned Multipart emails. I do not know what that is, but from what he describes, its looks useful. Hi Aashik, The multipart email bit was an insider joke :D I really doubt non-techies can send multipart emails very easily ;) Adoption of technology is a selling point. We know of Googles principles. If the technology is got something good, service providers are gonna implement it. May be we would say nops, only plaint text in here when it arrives in an easy way,as to be send by newbies. Regards Rajeev J Sebastian -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] 3gp, amr
Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. If you installed complete gstreamer package (good,ugly,bad) you must get sound for amr and 3gp(audio in 3gp is amr), your system must support amr files. You can also install SMplayer/Mplayer amr codec from Medubuntu repo. I had some problems with 3gp/amr in 9.10. Now I'm using 10.04. Now I don't have any problem. Regards: Sooraj Kenoth Zyxware Technologies Be the Change You Wish to See in the world- MK Gandhi -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
look you are going overboard over decisions that normal in a enterprise/organization. these decisions are result of deliberation within the organization, and outside advisors. further theses decisions are also influenced by the organizational need, its financial condition etc. heck you yourself has stated that govt is going ahead with a custom solution for their purpose which means that this solution is optimized for their purpose, i repeat their purpose. these might include customizing the os specific to hardware/software set to get their job done. for chrissake these systems are meant to do official job and not for ordinary use such as watching movies. playing games. still if you are convinced about role of linux in an enterprise just check out the business model and the client list of companies such as Redhat, Canonical, IBM etc this is how redhat/canonical makes money. they don't sell the os. instead they charge for the customer support/service. i.e tailoring the os to meet the customers need. earlier you were crying foul about lack of support in linux. if you want good customer support just pay for it or else be content with the community support with distros which i should say is doing a fine job under the circumstances Remember there is nothing as free lunch. On May 17, 4:43 pm, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:52 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. @Bipin, Unfortunately, I cant imagine user 'Govt' sitting in front of a boot screen. I can think about end users only.Govt is the decision maker and enforcer. Could it be very wrong, if somebody says Govt asked a group of people, and they made this mistake of instructing govt to use the specific distro in administrative wings? Consider the frequency of breakdowns as evident in this mailing list itself. Some end users are not comfortable with current framework to support FLOSS. What would be the recommendation if Govt gives the people an opportunity regarding improvement of FLOSS and support frame work? This opportunity is always there. On May 17, 11:52 am, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: 1)Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' [Fact, context] 2)Software providers in the field of GNU/Linux does not create it to be compatible with every distro/OS version[Fact] 3)Additional softwares/updates need to be installed for specific purposes,[Fact] 4)Current GNU/Linux systems has a high risk of breaking without warning, when softwares profile is changed[Fact] 5)The students who learn GNU/Linux and associated systems does not have enough professisonal functionality** because of comparitively low-perfoming professional softwares in FOSS arena.They fail to get job.[Fact, main context of thread] **apart from server side/embedded/mobile technologies in case of (5) ... As a key player in FOSS in Kerala, what would be FSUG-TVM priority? (please select more than one if necessary) 6)Give thrust on supporting the Distro and version the state has adopted(ubuntu), as specifically biased support could help boost its spread. 7)Answer every possible querry in FLOSS, based on individual MailingList members interest. 8)Support any other distro [one or more] : schoolOS, Mint,debian, RedHat, Fedora, Slackware, ArtistX, Novell, .. ..n 9)Strongly plead the govt for investing heavily in developing professional GNU/Linux and compatible software systems(mainly owing to reason 5) 10)Strongly plead the Govt to support heavily in user-developer communication systems, as it is necessary to rectify break downs(read along with 4) 11)Get into long term contract ( financial aid ) with Mac / Win owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility :D 12)Get into long term contract with professional application providers (Adobe, Avid, Apple... etc) owing to thier international success in providing professional software compatibility 13)Get into long term contract with FOSS software providers as this would explode possibilities in near future, eventhough not right now. 11)something else. .. -- #// # Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #// # -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom
Re: [fsug-tvm] I cant use INTENAL MODEM
Sorry,Please ignore my mail.It was a wrong information.I apologize for that. -- Raru Rv +91 9633 9217 44 -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: look you are going overboard over decisions that normal in a enterprise/organization. true.But isnt it like: FSUG is an organisation, and ilug-tvm is its imprint. these decisions are result of deliberation within the organization, and outside advisors. further theses decisions are also influenced by the organizational need, its financial condition etc. The affore said parameters are variables. What if a functionally structured enterprise is born out of FSUG?(not a power hierarchy) Some responders in the list are working admirably on external funds. [and commited performers are already being absorbed by enterprises where ever their policies match] The meaning of your phrase could be read as FSUG/its like-minded members should never form an enterprise. Why dont you make your construct it as It would have been great if FSUG could have formed a structured enterprise? Imagine all the active men gets paid (if and only if they are willing for it) for the noble purpose, and they are able to invest time 24x7 in a feild they like to work? Let the men get paid for assigned duty, those who would like to work on their on choices be absorbed as freelancers. Rebels are free to do anything. For it is GNU/GPL. Some elaboration which most of us doesnt need, but i enjoy story telling: we have various classes of vehicles on the road. Trying to bring out an all purpose vehicle as a unified solution is impractical/has limitations.(imagine a hybrid fuel macjine with train cum bicycle cpabilities). But too much diversity could do harm when legislations are made without bounding limits(prooved in history). Here is why setting priorities becomes important. I think 'priorities' is understood as some enforcement? You are interpreted as supporting (7) of the first post? heck you yourself has stated that govt is going ahead with a custom solution for their purpose Heck = way of referring to Hell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell why does men get this much adrenaline rush on my comments? is it that i am some non-techie? (non-touchee :) ).Non-techies cant stand for anything in FLOSS? being at CCMB you are aware how much tissue you are endangering with the adrenaline rush. Forget that its from me, just consider the logic. Tell me out right that we dont want to hear this from you, you 'krimi', you F*** and i stops it :) not. which means that this solution is optimized for their purpose, Question: A solution is proposed, without proper allocation. The usual election propagande way. agree/disagree? is it working? i repeat their purpose. these might include customizing the os specific to hardware/software set to get their job done. for chrissake these systems are meant to do official job and not for ordinary use such as watching movies. playing games. Bad bad attitude of techies that watching movies and playing games are not_for_the_most_adorable_of_them. Arent you playing a first person shooter game at the moment? Look you have succesfully gathered an (+100) sabotage package, which you may percieve as MOAB or SWORD! you are adding men to your Holly Alliance to a strategic game. The more logical you are, the more support your argument get. To state it seriously: The frame work to watch movies, play games are shared for watching news streams and working research/educational simulators. We (who ever it is) doesnt use it for creative purpose means we have set our priorities adorably like that. still if you are convinced about role of linux in an enterprise just check out the business model and the client list of companies such as Redhat, Canonical, IBM etc So you have made a refernce to a working model. I will certainly try reading on that. I would try to understand their functional objective of providing service in IT sector would match the objectives of end user in Govt sector of Kerala. this is how redhat/canonical makes money. they don't sell the os. instead they charge for the customer support/service. i.e tailoring the os to meet the customers need. Converse of theory: The more stupid the base distribution is, the more money they get. (Reading in between lines). Let their buisiness model work. for any sake. Fact: IF a FLOSS company with buisiness ethics propose that 'they rectify the problems of ITC sector of Govt of Kerala' based on FLOSS, they can win it without even 1% of the money M$ spent on Malyasian bureaucracy*. (*as read on internet). earlier you were crying foul about lack of support in linux. if you want good customer support just pay for it or else be content with the community support with distros which i should say is doing a fine job under the circumstances Remember there is nothing as free lunch. If the hotel owner thinks ditributing food for free cures his only daughters disease, the 'customer' gets free lunch. Isolate the customer from the Hotel owner in discussing this system. The customer
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: look you are going overboard over decisions that normal in a enterprise/organization. true.But isnt it like: FSUG is an organisation, and ilug-tvm is its imprint. these decisions are result of deliberation within the organization, and outside advisors. further theses decisions are also influenced by the organizational need, its financial condition etc. The affore said parameters are variables. What if a functionally structured enterprise is born out of FSUG?(not a power hierarchy) Some responders in the list are working admirably on external funds. [and commited performers are already being absorbed by enterprises where ever their policies match] The meaning of your phrase could be read as FSUG/its like-minded members should never form an enterprise. HAHAHA. You must be joking. That will never work, because employees somehow think 100% differently when they come home and don their FLOSS hats. Heck = way of referring to Hell why does men get this much adrenaline rush on my comments? is it that i am some non-techie? (non-touchee :) ).Non-techies cant stand for anything in FLOSS? being at CCMB you are aware how much tissue you are endangering with the adrenaline rush. Forget that its from me, just consider the logic. Tell me out right that we dont want to hear this from you, you 'krimi', you F*** and i stops it :) not. Guess what I am saying right now? :P which means that this solution is optimized for their purpose, Question: A solution is proposed, without proper allocation. The usual election propagande way. agree/disagree? is it working? i repeat their purpose. these might include customizing the os specific to hardware/software set to get their job done. for chrissake these systems are meant to do official job and not for ordinary use such as watching movies. playing games. Bad bad attitude of techies that watching movies and playing games are not_for_the_most_adorable_of_them. Arent you playing a first person shooter game at the moment? Look you have succesfully gathered an (+100) sabotage package, which you may percieve as MOAB or SWORD! you are adding men to your Holly Alliance to a strategic game. The more logical you are, the more support your argument get. To state it seriously: The frame work to watch movies, play games are shared for watching news streams and working research/educational simulators. We (who ever it is) doesnt use it for creative purpose means we have set our priorities adorably like that. Most techies watch a lot of movies and play a lot of games ... (or get entertained in some other way). I personally have a 600GB collection of movies and play Urbanterror every 5-6 hours. this is how redhat/canonical makes money. they don't sell the os. instead they charge for the customer support/service. i.e tailoring the os to meet the customers need. Converse of theory: The more stupid the base distribution is, the more money they get. (Reading in between lines). Let their buisiness model work. for any sake. Fact: IF a FLOSS company with buisiness ethics propose that 'they rectify the problems of ITC sector of Govt of Kerala' based on FLOSS, they can win it without even 1% of the money M$ spent on Malyasian bureaucracy*. (*as read on internet). You are 100% wrong about this. I would say the Govt has other priorities than supporting FLOSS or supporting companies with business ethics. What they are committed to is of course, using FLOSS as an election platform or as a promotion platform to fool people. Regards Rajeev J Sebastian -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
Seriously you dont know what you are posting do you? do a google search and learn about enterprise wide IT deployment process. better some people in this group might be able to spoon feed it to you in a way you understand the word organization here refers to the govt and not fsug or ilug-tvm or al-qaeda for that matter. they have their needs and might have consulted with peoples, and i hope some of them might be from the community as well thats all the fsug has to do with that decision and since its the govt decision maybe you can file an RTI to know about actual variables they took in to their decision making process and then come back here and discuss the merits and demerits of the aforesaid solution, rather than shooting in the dark there is something you have to get into thick skull, the hardware/ software procured by the government is supposed to do only one thing which is to run the governance related applications(accounting, inventory etc) and not any other frivolous stuff. the employees will be trained to run those apps at the taxpayer's(which btw includes you as well) expense. further you claim that business model of linux based companies is based on a flawed premise that, Linux is user-unfriendly and hence there is requirement of customer support which they are milking for their commercial purpose. by the same logic the other OS supposedly user friendly options are then literally ripping off the customers. first you have to pay exorbitant amounts as licensing, deploy expensive hardware and pay substantial amounts of money as maintenance and support fees annually i will give you an example, assuming the hardware cost being same(maybe Rs. 00 for arguments sake) the cost of deploying SLED (this includes OS, basic set of office applications and other productivity tools, security framework etc) was around 7500 Rs per pc per year excluding hardware, now if you are to deploy MS Vista/win7 enterprise(under MS EULA one cannot install any other version of winOSs in commercial platform i.e anything above 25 pcs) you will have to pay around the same amount for the OS alone, add to that price for a enterprise wide security solution(same as earlier no retail version allowed in commercial platforms) along with other required softwares. now to use OSX you have to buy an relatively expensive hardware platform just to have access to it. further if MS/apple decide to cease support for a particular os version you will have shell out additional amounts in terms of upgrading the hardware alone or else you will be stuck with outdated and EOL solution. further the apps you deployed on them might not be compatible to the newer os platform. this is one the main reasons many organization are not upgrading from win xp to vista/win7 despite MS pleas/ads. It is educating for you to read about IE6 debacle that many organization face now. now leave aside your personal tastes, idiosyncrasies and use the commonsense and tell us which is better investment of taxpayer’s money aka your money what i do with my hardware/software is my concern alone, whether i play fps, rts or watch porn because i have paid for it with my hard earned money. the govt/people's money is put into ICT for doing the sole task of governance and nothing else as stated earlier. you want to be creative buy your stuff, don't do it on common man's expense. one point to add there is already a working linux based solution deployed in public educational system called the i...@school GNU/Linux if you haven't heard of. it is basically a customized debian distro as far as i can gather from my tinkering with it. and it is working fine till date with help of community support i might add. there is enough opportunity for students to explore their creativity etc in that platform. the only drawback i see are the luck of sufficient amount of hardware to ensure optimal access for students, lack of content in local languages which i should say is being addressed. now to the last part. if someone is providing free good lunch for you, fine go and have it by all means. If you don’t like it you have the option of not going again, there is no compulsion. you cant be prickly about the amount of salt in the sambar etc bipin ps: posted from my win7/ubuntu lucid laptop :-) On May 17, 7:50 pm, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: look you are going overboard over decisions that normal in a enterprise/organization. true.But isnt it like: FSUG is an organisation, and ilug-tvm is its imprint. these decisions are result of deliberation within the organization, and outside advisors. further theses decisions are also influenced by the organizational need, its financial condition etc. The affore said parameters are variables. What if a functionally structured enterprise is born out of FSUG?(not a power hierarchy) Some responders in the list are working admirably on external funds. [and
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Rajeev J Sebastian rajeev.sebast...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:20 PM, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:53 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: look you are going overboard over decisions that normal in a enterprise/organization. true.But isnt it like: FSUG is an organisation, and ilug-tvm is its imprint. these decisions are result of deliberation within the organization, and outside advisors. further theses decisions are also influenced by the organizational need, its financial condition etc. The affore said parameters are variables. What if a functionally structured enterprise is born out of FSUG?(not a power hierarchy) Some responders in the list are working admirably on external funds. [and commited performers are already being absorbed by enterprises where ever their policies match] The meaning of your phrase could be read as FSUG/its like-minded members should never form an enterprise. HAHAHA. You must be joking. That will never work, because employees somehow think 100% differently when they come home and don their FLOSS hats. Assuming you left off the working atmosphere and resource-to-productivity-ratio in a committed NGO? Heck = way of referring to Hell why does men get this much adrenaline rush on my comments? is it that i am some non-techie? (non-touchee :) ).Non-techies cant stand for anything in FLOSS? being at CCMB you are aware how much tissue you are endangering with the adrenaline rush. Forget that its from me, just consider the logic. Tell me out right that we dont want to hear this from you, you 'krimi', you F*** and i stops it :) not. Guess what I am saying right now? :P yaeh, you made it very straight earlier, i want some more signs under it! which means that this solution is optimized for their purpose, Question: A solution is proposed, without proper allocation. The usual election propagande way. agree/disagree? is it working? i repeat their purpose. these might include customizing the os specific to hardware/software set to get their job done. for chrissake these systems are meant to do official job and not for ordinary use such as watching movies. playing games. Bad bad attitude of techies that watching movies and playing games are not_for_the_most_adorable_of_them. Arent you playing a first person shooter game at the moment? Look you have succesfully gathered an (+100) sabotage package, which you may percieve as MOAB or SWORD! you are adding men to your Holly Alliance to a strategic game. The more logical you are, the more support your argument get. To state it seriously: The frame work to watch movies, play games are shared for watching news streams and working research/educational simulators. We (who ever it is) doesnt use it for creative purpose means we have set our priorities adorably like that. Most techies watch a lot of movies and play a lot of games ... (or get entertained in some other way). I personally have a 600GB collection of movies and play Urbanterror every 5-6 hours. @ sorry man, this is personal, its certainly better than my personality which you comentd upon.(the allopathy thingy, which you mis interpreted as modern medicine as such). this is how redhat/canonical makes money. they don't sell the os. instead they charge for the customer support/service. i.e tailoring the os to meet the customers need. Converse of theory: The more stupid the base distribution is, the more money they get. (Reading in between lines). Let their buisiness model work. for any sake. Fact: IF a FLOSS company with buisiness ethics propose that 'they rectify the problems of ITC sector of Govt of Kerala' based on FLOSS, they can win it without even 1% of the money M$ spent on Malyasian bureaucracy*. (*as read on internet). You are 100% wrong about this. I would say the Govt has other priorities than supporting FLOSS or supporting companies with business ethics. What they are committed to is of course, using FLOSS as an election platform or as a promotion platform to fool people. any Govt(Kerala), not allocating resources for FLOSS development, is doing harm to the nation in long term. Regards Rajeev J Sebastian -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate
Re: mailing list best practices, again (sigh!) (Re: [fsug-tvm] Linux haters blog)
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Hiran Venugopalan hira...@gmail.comwrote: On 14 May 2010 13:00, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: @Jinesh, I am understanding the evils of RTF more and more, hope we are working out the policy of not using RTF.Evevnthough I look like thallandammaavaa njan nannavillaha, Simple. Your first mail to Subject : Linux haters blog looks like this http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6861/screenshot1uz.png in gmail's terminal theme (which praveen a uses). READ. I can't still stop my laugh over seeing the term readability in that image! :D terrible. But are you describing the part with green text over black background? And those portion with 'bold' certainly looks more readable in the image you send. @Hiran When we are trying to discuss about clarity, it would be better to send a better resolution snap shot.Or is it the graphics driver is not very functional in that system.I belive fonts are scalable as in SVG. or is it the problem with screenshot tool in gnome?please send something non-lossy compressed. -- Hiran Venugopalan Usability / IxD Geek, Ubiqurio IRC : HFactor | Phone : 09496346709 | W : http://hiran.in -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- #//# Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication Leonardo da Vinci #//# -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously you dont know what you are posting do you? do a google search and learn about enterprise wide IT deployment process. better some people in this group might be able to spoon feed it to you in a way you understand the word organization here refers to the govt and not fsug or ilug-tvm or al-qaeda for that matter. I had no idea that you are meaning Govt brother, true :( since I had stressed upon about fsug priorities, i thought its fsug. and pls gimme a clause in it which was not also applicable to fsug! they have their needs and might have consulted with peoples, and i hope some of them might be from the community as well thats all the fsug has to do with that decision and since its the govt decision maybe you can file an RTI to know about actual variables they took in to their decision making process and then come back here and discuss the merits and demerits of the aforesaid solution, rather than shooting in the dark When i am shooting into ilug tvm, i dont think its shooting into dark. there could be some men interestd. there is something you have to get into thick skull, the hardware/ software procured by the government is supposed to do only one thing which is to run the governance related applications(accounting, inventory etc) and not any other frivolous stuff. the employees will be trained to run those apps at the taxpayer's(which btw includes you as well) expense. yup. now i would put defense reserach, and research laboratories.Holy cows.I have seen MACs in IISC. we read about the budget in news papers.(am supportng ur view) further you claim that business model of linux based companies is based on a flawed premise that, Linux is user-unfriendly and hence there is requirement of customer support which they are milking for their commercial purpose. yeah. so any proposal on how to tackle with this situation? make Linux customer support under Govt? make FOSS ultimatum under govt support in a very transparent way ? by the same logic the other OS supposedly user friendly options are then literally ripping off the customers. first you have to pay exorbitant amounts as licensing, deploy expensive hardware and pay substantial amounts of money as maintenance and support fees annually i will give you an example, assuming the hardware cost being same(maybe Rs. 00 for arguments sake) the cost of deploying SLED (this includes OS, basic set of office applications and other productivity tools, security framework etc) was around 7500 Rs per pc per year excluding hardware, now if you are to deploy MS Vista/win7 enterprise(under MS EULA one cannot install any other version of winOSs in commercial platform i.e anything above 25 pcs) you will have to pay around the same amount for the OS alone, add to that price for a enterprise wide security solution(same as earlier no retail version allowed in commercial platforms) along with other required softwares. now to use OSX you have to buy an relatively expensive hardware platform just to have access to it. further if MS/apple decide to cease support for a particular os version you will have shell out additional amounts in terms of upgrading the hardware alone or else you will be stuck with outdated and EOL solution. further the apps you deployed on them might not be compatible to the newer os platform. this is one the main reasons many organization are not upgrading from win xp to vista/win7 despite MS pleas/ads. It is educating for you to read about IE6 debacle that many organization face now. Sure, admirable wealth of data. this would certainly help. now leave aside your personal tastes, idiosyncrasies and use the commonsense and tell us which is better investment of taxpayer’s money aka your money Thanks for the statement. This would have given earlier, but now it came with a wealth of statistics. what i do with my hardware/software is my concern alone, whether i play fps, rts or watch porn because i have paid for it with my hard earned money. the govt/people's money is put into ICT for doing the sole task of governance and nothing else as stated earlier. you want to be creative buy your stuff, don't do it on common man's expense. Again, the holy cow is ignored. Resaerch eats national income in chunks. No complaints, would like to hear ther is a lot of FOSS adopted in it. one point to add there is already a working linux based solution deployed in public educational system called the i...@school GNU/Linux if you haven't heard of. it is basically a customized debian distro as far as i can gather from my tinkering with it. and it is working fine till date with help of community support i might add. there is enough opportunity for students to explore their creativity etc in that platform. The student thingy described above was the after-schooling problem. They do have more than enough to explore, and the
[fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. its quite obvious from the above post that by organization i am referring to the govt of kerala hence rest of the following statement in quotes don't require further explanation I had no idea that you are meaning Govt brother, true :( since I had stressed upon about fsug priorities, i thought its fsug. and pls gimme a clause in it which was not also applicable to fsug! yup. now i would put defense reserach, and research laboratories.Holy cows.I have seen MACs in IISC. we read about the budget in news papers.(am supportng ur view really now its quite obvious that you want hear that only really like to hear and see what you like to see. this post began with your statement that the govt of Kerala has opted of custom GNU/Liinux for their administrative purposes educational system(i.e the public education system which mainly involves the schools) now where does defense research and other RD comes in this context, will you please explain. now regarding use of macs and other expensive stuff IISc or other RD institutes, one of which i happen to work, have you any idea regarding the computational need in an RD lab. just to give an example three dimensional reconstruction of protein structure in my institute is done using an SGI workstation because no other platform cuts it. you want us wait for the day when such technology becomes available in other affordable platforms? i merely state that hardware/software solutions for an enterprise are made on a case to case basis as per the organizations needs and financial priorities, and not on a idealogical basis. you cannot thrust your favourite distro as it is into the throats of an organization. However open source community can help the government in taking intelligent decision while deploying an ICT infrastructure. yeah. so any proposal on how to tackle with this situation? make Linux customer support under Govt? make FOSS ultimatum under govt support in a very transparent way ? now this is an example of the kind of journalism we see nowadays. rather than reacting to the whole statement you are making comment on the basis of a part of my argument and not the complete one. any sane man reading through this post is going to have serious doubts regarding your motives. anyway why should government should tackle such a problem? as per our constitution government can interfere in the activities of a business only if they are suspected/found to commit malpractices under the law and not at the whims and fancies of a person. do you have any proof to the effect that corporations such as Redhat is giving substandard products/services in order to boost their profits, then by all means go ahead and sue them or make those proof public so that we ignorants become enlightened. Till then its innocent until proven guilty. Again, the holy cow is ignored. Resaerch eats national income in chunks. No complaints, would like to hear ther is a lot of FOSS adopted in it. now this is getting personal and the holy cow expression not humouring me in this context put it this way i have a laptop which have brought from my fellowship. this fellowship isn't anyone's gift or dole, rather i have earned it and you personally know how difficult is to get one. so its my prerogative that what i do with my system and your comments are not welcome in that matter in a public forum. i am aware of the fact that fellowship is awarded to me by the country in the hope of me doing something constructive to society and to that extend i will do whatever i can. however my personal life is not hostage to that fact an hardware/software solution brought using taxpayers money by the government for governance purpose should only be used for that purpose alone and not for playing games by kids of some [public servant, if they want to do that they can buy their own stuff from their salary. on the lighter note do us a favour will you? read through your lengthy statements twice before posting. its getting very difficult make sense out of those statements, i can do better job making sense from some journal articles On May 17, 11:24 pm, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:22 PM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously you dont know what you are posting do you? do a google search and learn about enterprise wide IT deployment process. better some people in this group might be able to spoon feed it to you in a way you understand the word organization here refers to the govt and not fsug or ilug-tvm or al-qaeda for that matter. I had no idea that you are meaning Govt brother, true :( since I had stressed upon about fsug priorities, i thought its fsug. and pls gimme a
Re: [fsug-tvm] 3gp, amr
I am using both Debian Sid and Lucid. I am unable to play Adaptive Multi-Rate audio in Lucid. I On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:50 PM, sooraj kenoth soorajken...@gmail.comwrote: Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. If you installed complete gstreamer package (good,ugly,bad) you must get sound for amr and 3gp(audio in 3gp is amr), your system must support amr files. You can also install SMplayer/Mplayer amr codec from Medubuntu repo. I had some problems with 3gp/amr in 9.10. Now I'm using 10.04. Now I don't have any problem. Regards: Sooraj Kenoth Zyxware Technologies Be the Change You Wish to See in the world- MK Gandhi -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Arjun.S.R Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Trivandrum(CET) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] ubuntu repository dvd's
If you feel like keeping a local repository by dedicating a 35gb of space in your system, it would be very convenient for you to install application or dependencies. All you need to do is run an rsyncing update script in your system periodically from an authentic server. So need to worry about the internet connection for installing apps...Hurray! On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Robin S. Parriath robinparri...@gmail.comwrote: Hey friends, Why are we downloading this? Wouldn't the repository be redundant as soon as an update gets pushed through? Or is there a way to keep this updated? - Robin -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Arjun.S.R Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Trivandrum(CET) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Power management in ubuntu
am using both debian squeeze and ubuntu 10.04 in my laptop. i have 1 problem with ubuntu, power management preferences does not shows on battery mode tab. and ubuntu shutdowns without showing any warning when battery reaches critical level. but in squeeze it works perfectly. is it a bug or the problem is only for me.? any solution for this ? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്ണ ്ണ കൃതികള് - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്
I am interested. 2010/5/10 Ashik S aash...@gmail.com -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [smc-discuss] ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്ണ്ണ കൃതികള് - യൂണിക്കോഡിലേക്കു് Date: Monday 10 May 2010, 21:28:10 From: Santhosh Thottingal santhosh.thottin...@gmail.com To: സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് smc-disc...@googlegroups.com ഒരു സഹായ അഭ്യര്ത്ഥനയാണു്. ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരുവിന്റെ സമ്പൂര്ണ്ണ കൃതികള് - ആസ്കി (ഫോണ്ട് എന്കോഡഡ്) ഡാറ്റ ആയി മലയാളം വിക്കിപീഡിയ പ്രവര്ത്തകര്ക്കു ലഭിച്ചിട്ടുണ്ടു്. അതിനെ യൂണിക്കോഡിലേക്ക് മാറ്റി മലയാളം വിക്കിസോഴ്സിലേക്കു ചേര്ക്കാന് സഹായമഭ്യര്ത്ഥിച്ചിരിക്കുന്നു. smc യുടെ പയ്യന്സ് എന്ന പ്രോഗ്രാം ഉപയോഗിച്ച് മുഴുവനും മാറ്റിയെടുക്കാവുന്നതാണു്. അല്പം സാങ്കേതിക ഇടപെടല് ആവശ്യമായി വന്നേക്കും. ഇതിനായി സന്നദ്ധപ്രവര്ത്തകരാരെങ്കിലും മുന്നോട്ടു വരണമെന്നു അഭ്യര്ത്ഥിക്കുന്നു. എന്തു ചെയ്യണമെന്നു വിശദീകരിച്ചു തരുന്നതാണു്. പ്രയത്നം ചെറുതാണെങ്കിലും, ഇത്രയധികം പ്രാധാന്യമുള്ള ഗ്രന്ഥം ജനങ്ങളിലേക്കെത്തിക്കുക എന്നതു് വളരെ വലിയൊരു കാര്യമാണു്. താത്പര്യമുള്ളവര് എനിക്കു മെയിലയക്കുക. സന്തോഷ് തോട്ടിങ്ങല് -- സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ് - എന്റെ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറിനു് എന്റെ ഭാഷ സംരംഭം: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/smc വെബ്സൈറ്റ് : http://smc.org.in IRC ചാനല് : #smc-project @ freenode പിരിഞ്ഞു പോകാന്: smc-discuss-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com - -- aashik Mandatory Quote: My one purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.-- Jamie Zawinsky Free your documents, use OpenOffice: http://openoffice.org / LaTeX : http://www.latex-project.org/ -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Arjun.S.R Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Trivandrum(CET) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്ണ ്ണ കൃതികള് - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്
2010/5/18 Arjun Sr arjun1...@gmail.com I am interested. Considering that this mail was forwarded from smc-discuss, you should probably express your interest there. താത്പര്യമുള്ളവര് എനിക്കു മെയിലയക്കുക. സന്തോഷ് തോട്ടിങ്ങല് -- Cheers Naufal -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്ണ ്ണ കൃതികള് - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്
okay 2010/5/18 Mohamed Naufal naufa...@gmail.com 2010/5/18 Arjun Sr arjun1...@gmail.com I am interested. Considering that this mail was forwarded from smc-discuss, you should probably express your interest there. താത്പര്യമുള്ളവര് എനിക്കു മെയിലയക്കുക. സന്തോഷ് തോട്ടിങ്ങല് -- Cheers Naufal -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Arjun.S.R Computer Science and Engineering College of Engineering Trivandrum(CET) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:10 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. its quite obvious from the above post that by organization i am referring to the govt of kerala hence rest of the following statement in quotes don't require further explanation I had no idea that you are meaning Govt brother, true :( since I had stressed upon about fsug priorities, i thought its fsug. and pls gimme a clause in it which was not also applicable to fsug! yup. now i would put defense reserach, and research laboratories.Holy cows.I have seen MACs in IISC. we read about the budget in news papers.(am supportng ur view really now its quite obvious that you want hear that only really like to hear and see what you like to see. This is not what i like to see. Its a hard fact.Doesnt PC offer the similiar performance at similiar cost? I dont think many reasearch softwares are there specific to MAC platform. Ther are a lot of media based, which are highly ranked among professionals. this post began with your statement that the govt of Kerala has opted of custom GNU/Liinux for their administrative purposes educational system(i.e the public education system which mainly involves the schools) now where does defense research and other RD comes in this context, will you please explain. Is it terribly wrong if RD research out side Kerala came into mention? Consider KSCSTE expenditure. [not just shooting into space, I know instances where Vista-pre installed PCs were selected to buy, when XP was still there, and Vista remained unsupported for most of the office purposes like installing the Tally version.] Most research institutes in Kerala are supported for infrastructure through central funds. Central policy counts. now regarding use of macs and other expensive stuff IISc or other RD institutes, one of which i happen to work, have you any idea regarding the computational need in an RD lab. just to give an example three dimensional reconstruction of protein structure in my institute is done using an SGI workstation because no other platform cuts it. Please release the spec? No FOSS platform cuts it?It would be worth to see some discussion on it. you want us wait for the day when such technology becomes available in other affordable platforms? This is a good question, which i am not sure is directed to me or into the dark space you called? You are making a comment about the current capabilities of Linux. i merely state that hardware/software solutions for an enterprise are made on a case to case basis as per the organizations needs and financial priorities, and not on a idealogical basis. FOSS is an ideology based initiative,in which 'open' is the most outstanding innovation.Not free as in Free Lunch And FOSS working out, and approved as POC. It should be considered where ever possible, when making decisions. you cannot thrust your favourite distro as it is into the throats of an organization. Man did i say so?can you state any one distro which i pushed? We have n number of distros, of which we have top ranked ones. I would like development concentarted in one or more selected distors, That it matures fast, and can be released to the population(I too benefit from it) I asked which ones would be the better ones. However open source community can help the government in taking intelligent decision while deploying an ICT infrastructure. yeah. so any proposal on how to tackle with this situation? make Linux customer support under Govt? make FOSS ultimatum under govt support in a very transparent way ? now this is an example of the kind of journalism we see nowadays. rather than reacting to the whole statement you are making comment on the basis of a part of my argument and not the complete one. any sane man reading through this post is going to have serious doubts regarding your motives. What is the complete argument? the first one you made reagrding government, looked like everything except funding for hardware is ok. I dont take it that way, as i personally saw the problems. My cousine runs an Akshaya center, i used to attend classes arranged for Linux instead of him and this class was shared by school teachers. I know the magnitude of problems that came out in that class. Regarding my motive, I already said it wud be good to give more priority to increasing userfriendliness.It helps spread, spreading helps users. I dont exactly know the state of Linux,( My personal understanding is that linux desktop is much more prone to break down, when the software profile is changed. Its a linear cycle of breaks and make-agains, once you decide to change software profile. I think no
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Changing ROOT password in ubuntu
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: ut, when i try to open a directory as root using a nautilus script (root nautilus here), the dialogue box appearing is not accepting the new password. It is still my regular user password(created at the time of installation). That's because the script is not asking the root password. It is asking for your normal user password. You should understand that when you first install Ubuntu, you are the sole user and are given administrative privileges. So, your password is asked at most of the places. That's why the root account is kept disabled. i want to change the password, which is asked when we try to open a folder as root with full privilage using nautilus script. You can easily do this from GUI also. Just change password by going to System-Administration-Users and Groups OR you can just open a terminal (from Accessories in Applications) and issue command passwd to change your own password. -- Kartik Singhal BTech CSE Student, NIT Calicut http://www.techglider.com -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Why multimedia codecs are not includes in ubuntu?
can u play mp3 .or u dont know? what ever On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Praveen A prav...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/16 Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com: Since ubuntu does not contains multimedia plug ins, i used to install it (gstreamer) from debian DVD. Why ubuntu dont includes these important things by default in it? Debian developers are distributing these items whithout any legal problems.! Debian is a not for profit organisation run by volunteers where as Ubuntu is a Canonical, a for-profit company, sponsored project. It is attractive for patent holders to file cases against entities where they can get some money. I think Novell and Mandriva pay license fees for the codecs to include them, Red Hat and Ubuntu chose not to ship them. -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] I cant play 3gp,amr
hi vyshakh please install vlc video player from repositery or real player from real website. it can play audio 3gp and amr On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Vyshakh vyshak...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu9.10 is my default operating system. I've installed all possible gstreamer from a debian DVD. But i could not here any sound in 3gp videos and amr audio files. There files were recorded with my mobile phone. Playing fine in windows. On 5/16/10, Abdullah sheikhmdabdul...@gmail.com wrote: We all are inspired a lot from that trip as it give an immense thought to work in a real environment and work for the most deserving. On 5/12/10, Jaideep Khandelwal jdk2...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: kunal gupta dirtydevil2...@gmail.com Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Lugb_ml] OLPC trip To: NIKHIL BANSAL niksecb...@gmail.com Cc: lugb...@lugb.in congrats manud and team lugb, This is the best possible trip and excursion tour anyone can have in which you shared your knowledge with village students. Congrats manud on successful completion of this project on OLPC. +1 to skbohra, this trip must be taken as an ideal trip to include in any project involving provision of education to village students. Cheers !! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM, NIKHIL BANSAL niksecb...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Manu , Thank you very much for sharing this nice and adventurous experience with all of us. This seems really an interesting experience for everyone who joined it and obviously nice things to be learnt from there. Hope this trip will help LUGB in future all the way. I can subscribe the wiki work regarding OLPC trip willingly. :) If anyone else also wants to add, please come forward. Because it would be nice to have two than one. ;) Cheers ! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Manu Dixit manud...@gmail.com wrote: I am feeling great to inform that the Kikarwali trip was a great experience for all of us. The events : May 7 : - 6 AM Departure from Bikaner to Kikarwali. - 12 noon A small introductory meeting with the teaching staff and administration authorities of the School. - 7 PM Briefing the public and students of Kikarwali about the concept of OLPC, XO laptops were shown. May 8 : - 7 AM - 12 Noon , First session with the students , teams of 2 to 3 members took the charge of each class, basics of computers were covered - Evening : Practical sessions, children were divided into groups of 4 or 5 and were given a XO (due to the limited number of laptops). May 9 : - In-spite of a Sunday, some children turned up to the school right in the morning , more practical sessions , apps like write , paint , speak , camera , wikipedia were covered. - A projector was arranged , children were shown some small movie and some XO stuff. - LUGB vs Kikarwali cricket match in the evening. May 10 : - 7 AM onwards Children in large number ( from 3 schools ) gathered. - Newer ones were shown shown some video about the usage of XO (almost instantaneously shot by a small cam) - Q A sessions were held , (some toffees were distributed meanwhile). - An adventurous visit to the India Pakistan border, location: 41 PS, talked to the Inspector Gaurav and saw Pakistan to the closest one can go.(BEST) May 11 : - A group of 3 (Paras, Kartik Sahil) went to a private school for teaching. - Local Teachers were taught the basic usage of the XO. - Sharing (USP of XO) was the theme of the day. - Discussed some issues and views with the authorities on how to continue the project. - 5 PM returning trip additional Info Head Counts : 200 (approx) Schools Covered : 3 LUGB members (in alphabetical order) : Abhinav Chittora Chitrapal Singh Kartik Manocha Manu Dixit Nitesh Kumar ( a special mention for our junior, youngest of all ) Paras Kuhad Sahil Kataria Vilas Setia Virendra Sethiya The effort was one of the kind in the whole of Rajasthan ( i guess the laptops were very first to get distributed in this part -covering 5 to 6 states- of the country) Finally we need to document the whole information - photos, videos ,wiki ( http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_India ) so I ask someone to come forward as some of us would be having exams right away. I would say the memories would remain with us for a long long time , people were friendly , reception full on , very intelligent children and the best of the food. With Confidence that the project would continue Manu Dixit ___ Lugb_ml mailing list lugb...@lugb.in http://lugb.in/mailman/listinfo/lugb_ml_lugb.in ___ Lugb_ml
Re: [fsug-tvm] network manager auto reconnect
hi abdullah i am little busy.. but auto lo iface lo inet loopback this one is not right.. any many more faults there please reconfigure once more,, if you face this problem repeatedly you can mail me morning iwill give you answer night. sure On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Abdullah sheikhmdabdul...@gmail.comwrote: Change the user id and password by going to the Broadband configuration page by providing the current authentication the section.It will work. Remember please take a backup of the current configuration and them make changes to it. On 5/14/10, abhisheklalned...@gmail.com abhisheklalned...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion is going off topic!!! i got the solution of actual topic. Solution: using pppoeconf configure a connection. after that open /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider add persist to the file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl- provider-- noipdefault defaultroute replacedefaultroute hide-password #lcp-echo-interval 30 #lcp-echo-failure 4 noauth persist -this is important!!! #mtu 1492 #persist #maxfail 0 #holdoff 20 plugin rp-pppoe.so eth1 user XX #usepeerdns - i use open-DNS so i commented this line --- check this file also --/etc/network/interfaces --- auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto dsl-provider iface dsl-provider inet ppp pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth1 up # line maintained by pppoeconf provider dsl-provider auto eth1 iface eth1 inet manual use poff -a to end currently active connection pon dsl-provider to start connection Anybody have that torrent speed problem? i am using BSNL type 1 modem made by ITI LIMITED. Also when i am running apache web server, if the modem is configured to auto connect, the pages on the server are not accessible for other computers, when my ip is opend form another computer, it shows my modem configuration page. As the default username/passowrd is admin/admin, any one can change the configuration.Also azureus show a NAT problem. Any solution for this? -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- -- Mohammad Abdullah B.Tech(it),Third Year. -- -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] [request] [smc-discuss] ശ്രീ നാരായണഗുരു സമ്പൂര്ണ ്ണ കൃതികള് - യൂണിക്കോ ഡിലേക്കു്
Somebody actually contacted Santhosh Thottingal and had the work completed. -- aashik Mandatory Quote: My one purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. -- Jamie Zawinsky Free your documents, use OpenOffice: http://openoffice.org / LaTeX : http://www.latex-project.org/ -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] ubuntu repository dvd's
On 05/18/2010 03:08 AM, Arjun Sr wrote: If you feel like keeping a local repository by dedicating a 35gb of space in your system, it would be very convenient for you to install application or dependencies. All you need to do is run an rsyncing update script in your system periodically from an authentic server. So need to worry about the internet connection for installing apps...Hurray! Thanks Arjun. An local copy of the repository does seem like a good idea, however, we seem to be downloading iso files here. I can't say they are so easily updatable. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) Tools like apt-mirror on Debian based systems can download the repository and even update it very easily. It is a lot more easier than downloading iso files each time the repository is updated. So I was wondering why people were downloading them instead of using apt-mirror. I have, since then, spoken to a few friends and they do consider DVDs to be much more useful in distributing applications, than a usb hard disk. So I did a rethink of my ideas. I am currently looking for a way to group together packages that are related, so that the DVDs can be created out of a local repository. Till then, I guess the dvds are the way to go. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Robin S. Parriath robinparri...@gmail.com mailto:robinparri...@gmail.com wrote: Hey friends, Why are we downloading this? Wouldn't the repository be redundant as soon as an update gets pushed through? Or is there a way to keep this updated? - Robin -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
Re: [fsug-tvm] Re: Changing ROOT password in ubuntu
hi On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Sistla Venkata Abhishek svabhis...@gmail.com wrote: Kind of a folder / drive lock eh .. !!! i've been trying the samething .. For example ... Login Password : abhishek The drive password should be something different right like ... Authentication : AbhiSheK guys this is something important coz we can give access to our root ( file system ) by telling the root password but with that he will be able to access the whole system including the partitioned drives .. so to change this any ideas ... Many thanks for the elaboration Vyshakh . I think this and vyshakh's problem is related to policykit. The administration policy for ubuntu(fedora also for that matter) is managed by policykit demon. For it to ask only for root password, you may have to change it in /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf . I dont really know how to change it, but with my minimal understanding, changing group admin to user root might do the job. Regards Jinesh K J -- My Feelings,Expressions- http://logbookofanobserver.blogspot.com My scribblings- http://logbookofanobserver.wordpress.com SMC : My computer, My language http://smc.org.in സ്വതന്ത്ര മലയാളം കമ്പ്യൂട്ടിങ്ങ്, എന്റെ കമ്പ്യൂട്ടറിന് എന്റെ ഭാഷ -- Freedom is the only law. Freedom Unplugged http://www.ilug-tvm.org You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ilug-tvm group. To control your subscription visit http://groups.google.co.in/group/ilug-tvm/subscribe To post to this group, send email to ilug-tvm@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ilug-tvm-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For details visit the google group page: http://groups.google.com/group/ilug-tvm?hl=en
[fsug-tvm] Re: What would be the best practice for the moment?
Is it terribly wrong if RD research out side Kerala came into mention? Consider KSCSTE expenditure. [not just shooting into space, I know instances where Vista-pre installed PCs were selected to buy, when XP was still there, and Vista remained unsupported for most of the office purposes like installing the Tally version.] Most research institutes in Kerala are supported for infrastructure through central funds. Central policy counts. yes it is wrong because as per your initial statement the government was going in for custom GNU/Linux distro for adminstrative purposes. this means running day to day governance activities. Now you can't get simpler explanation for that. hence for the aforesaid purpose a custom linux solution is a good choice. simply put, it just have to run those governance apps and not your favourite video editing apps. now to the latter part of the statement. regarding rd majority of these institutes operates as autonomous bodies i.e central government do not interfere in day to day activities. all that central govt can do is set the guideline is such way that ICT deployment in such institutions provide lowest possible TCO(total cost of ownership) Majority of the reaserch are human, but we have a lot of instances where there are investments for totaly illogical research [for example those involving field release of GMO food] Do you say that all resaerch in India is in good motive? I can give you a number of instances in State/Central academic and research institutes. Shud I stop commenting on research institutes, for the reason that you are in a reserach field? Thanks and admirable that you are maintaining an above normal moral value. this forum is not place to discuss the merits and demerits of rd going on in our country. we can debate over it in another place some other time. On May 18, 6:27 am, nishandh M pro.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:10 AM, bipin kumar bipin...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Kerala Govt has already forced GNU/Linux based system in educational system and in administrative sections.It is not just 'let the user choose' ans. simple, here the user is the government of kerala, and they have chosen a solution that can meet their organizational requirements. its quite obvious from the above post that by organization i am referring to the govt of kerala hence rest of the following statement in quotes don't require further explanation I had no idea that you are meaning Govt brother, true :( since I had stressed upon about fsug priorities, i thought its fsug. and pls gimme a clause in it which was not also applicable to fsug! yup. now i would put defense reserach, and research laboratories.Holy cows.I have seen MACs in IISC. we read about the budget in news papers.(am supportng ur view really now its quite obvious that you want hear that only really like to hear and see what you like to see. This is not what i like to see. Its a hard fact.Doesnt PC offer the similiar performance at similiar cost? I dont think many reasearch softwares are there specific to MAC platform. Ther are a lot of media based, which are highly ranked among professionals. this post began with your statement that the govt of Kerala has opted of custom GNU/Liinux for their administrative purposes educational system(i.e the public education system which mainly involves the schools) now where does defense research and other RD comes in this context, will you please explain. Is it terribly wrong if RD research out side Kerala came into mention? Consider KSCSTE expenditure. [not just shooting into space, I know instances where Vista-pre installed PCs were selected to buy, when XP was still there, and Vista remained unsupported for most of the office purposes like installing the Tally version.] Most research institutes in Kerala are supported for infrastructure through central funds. Central policy counts. now regarding use of macs and other expensive stuff IISc or other RD institutes, one of which i happen to work, have you any idea regarding the computational need in an RD lab. just to give an example three dimensional reconstruction of protein structure in my institute is done using an SGI workstation because no other platform cuts it. Please release the spec? No FOSS platform cuts it?It would be worth to see some discussion on it. you want us wait for the day when such technology becomes available in other affordable platforms? This is a good question, which i am not sure is directed to me or into the dark space you called? You are making a comment about the current capabilities of Linux. i merely state that hardware/software solutions for an enterprise are made on a case to case basis as per the organizations needs and financial priorities, and not on a idealogical basis. FOSS is an ideology based initiative,in which 'open' is the most outstanding innovation.Not free as in
