Re: [Ilugc] [ANN] tamil fonts
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 11:50:53 am sankarshan wrote: http://bitbucket.org/malathisuji/nrcfoss-au-tamil-computing-activities/ all are welcome to contribute An aspect of font development that would be most welcome is the addition of font test cases. I would exhort that this area be also looked into when developing and releasing fonts. Building up a comprehensive test case suite for fonts is required at this stage. could you file a ticket, with some details of what they have to do? Can you please point me to the URL to the ticket-tracking bits ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ Sent from Brisbane, Qld, Australia ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
Hai friends... I am lifna from Mumbai... Recently i joined the group...Thanks for accepting my request I take this opportunity to Wish all the members.\ Merry Christmas Prosperous New Year May GOD bestow all blessings upon you your families... Lifna _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Linux HTPC at home
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Manvendra Bhangui mbhan...@gmail.com wrote: Want to make a Home Theatre PC which runs Linux. I'm eyeing the Acer Aspire Revo as my next XBMC box. The Revo is a small Intel Atom based nettop, which sports Nvidia Ion graphics. Can playback H.264 encoded 1080p HD content effortlessly. Revo has HDMI, esata and USB out and retails for $200 on newegg.com. Full hardware support is available in latest XBMC builds. See: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap There are plenty of good lifehacker articles on XBMC + Revo. If you can find the Revo in Chennai, please let me know! - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, LIFNA JOS lifna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hai friends... I am lifna from Mumbai... Recently i joined the group...Thanks for accepting my request I take this opportunity to Wish all the members.\ Merry Christmas Prosperous New Year May GOD bestow all blessings upon you your families... Lifna _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Why you are advertising Windows 7 here ?? -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) │Society for Knowledge Commons │Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org └─┘ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
Why you are advertising Windows 7 here ?? Was there a choice? I think the mail is coming from a hotmail id! Abishek ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Linux HTPC at home
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Raja Subramanian rajasuper...@gmail.comwrote: See: http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-silent-standalone-xbmc-media-center-on-the-cheap There are plenty of good lifehacker articles on XBMC + Revo. Thanks for the info about xbmc Found this (available in chennai) http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-fusion-remote-black.html and http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-multimedia-station-premier-deluxe-ir-receiver-and-remote.html -- Regards Manvendra - http://www.indimail.org ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
2009/12/24 Abishek Goda goda.abis...@gmail.com Why you are advertising Windows 7 here ?? Was there a choice? I think the mail is coming from a hotmail id! Yeah, another one of MS marketing ploys. -- Thanks Regards Varrun Ramani Amrita University '10 Web: varrunr.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 1:52 PM, LIFNA JOS lifna...@hotmail.com wrote: Hai friends... I am lifna from Mumbai... Recently i joined the group...Thanks for accepting my request I take this opportunity to Wish all the members.\ Merry Christmas Prosperous New Year May GOD bestow all blessings upon you your families... Lifna Hai Lifna, Welcome to the group. We usually send our holiday greetings to Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com so that he can send us a consolidated list at the end of the festival time. Please do so from now on, instead of mailing the group. Please read the mailing list guidelines, and hang around for a while to see how things are done around here. Enjoy your stay. Regards, Roshan Mathews ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Linux HTPC at home
http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-fusion-remote-black.html and http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-multimedia-station-premier-deluxe-ir-receiver-and-remote.html there is a tiny cabinet from zebronics called chotu. http://www.zebronics.net/cabinets_%C2%A0Chotu.asp I don't personally trust zebronics for quality, but if one is looking for a really inexpensive solution, this may work. Thanks Gourav ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ANN] tamil fonts
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 1:49:56 pm sankarshan wrote: could you file a ticket, with some details of what they have to do? Can you please point me to the URL to the ticket-tracking bits ? http://bitbucket.org/malathisuji/nrcfoss-au-tamil-computing-activities/issues/ -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Linux HTPC at home
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Gourav Shah freedom...@gmail.com wrote: there is a tiny cabinet from zebronics called chotu. http://www.zebronics.net/cabinets_%C2%A0Chotu.asp I don't personally trust zebronics for quality, but if one is looking for a really inexpensive solution, this may work. The chotu cabinet has overheating problems and I don't recommend it. I went with a regular mini cabinet to fit a dual core Atom and 2 x HDDs for my NAS box at home. Revo form factor would have been excellent. - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 2:51:50 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: We usually send our holiday greetings to Kenneth Gonsalves law...@xxx it is considered one of the most serious breaches of internet etiquette to expose a person's email address or phone number in a publicly accessible place without his consent. In many forums the offender is instantly ejected. Before advising newcomers on etiquette I suggest you bone up on it ... And yet, http://www.google.co.in/#q=lawgon%40thenilgiris.com shows that it hasn't really been something you have normally obfuscated. I just figured, given the mail this morning where you took upon yourself to educate the list on netiquette, you might want to hear from our latest member. Season's greetings! :) -- Roshan Mathews http://teamtalk.im ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 4:29:32 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: And yet, http://www.google.co.in/#q=lawgon%40thenilgiris.com shows that it hasn't really been something you have normally obfuscated. *I* am entitled to put my email address anywhere in the world or even paint it on the roads - *you* are not. Without *my* permission you have absolutely no right over my personal data. And do not try to avoid the point. You have behaved irresponsibly - own up to it. Unless you are actually justifying the exposure of my personal data? I'm only pointing out that your great moral outrage though voluble is barely justifiable. Surely you overreact? Btw, not sure about that painting on the roads bit. But then, unlike you, IANAL. :) -- Roshan Mathews http://teamtalk.im ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 4:43:33 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: I am entitled to put my email address anywhere in the world or even paint it on the roads - you are not. Without my permission you have absolutely no right over my personal data. And do not try to avoid the point. You have behaved irresponsibly - own up to it. Unless you are actually justifying the exposure of my personal data? I'm only pointing out that your great moral outrage though voluble is barely justifiable. Surely you overreact? as already suggested - learn something about etiquette. I do not suppose you have noticed that email addresses are obfuscated in the archives of this list? or in most lists? (I wonder why we Indians are so reluctant to acknowledge that we have made a mistake?) Just admit it - get it off your chest and enjoy Christmas. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 5:17:27 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: as already suggested - learn something about etiquette. I do not suppose you have noticed that email addresses are obfuscated in the archives of this list? or in most lists? (I wonder why we Indians are so reluctant to acknowledge that we have made a mistake?) Just admit it - get it off your chest and enjoy Christmas. Au contraire, I checked the archives when you complained, Mailman had already obfuscated it. As already suggested, maybe you're overreacting. (I wonder why you lawyers jump to conclusions and make mountains out of molehills.) You have a merry Christmas too. so you are still contending that what you did was according to etiquette? btw, did mailman obscure it or did the list admin do it? anyway to test I will put an email id here and see what happens. The id is 'id...@hotmail.com' and do not worry - that id is registered to me, so no one will be harmed by the experiment. As for your attempted defence, I have seen that the most common defence in rape cases is - 'she is a woman of loose character, so no big deal'. Sounds familiar no? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
Now the OP will be wondering why the heck s/he ever joined this list :-) regds, mano ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] security hole in mailing lists archives
hi, I was looking at the list archives in both gmane and mailman. In gmane the obfuscation of email addresses is done properly. The domain name is concealed. In mailman, the obfuscation is not done according to the accepted standard. The full email address is revealed, but 'at' substituted for '@'. Even a child can write a script to decode this. And address harvesters have far more sophisticated scripts at their command. Listadmin may kindly follow the accepted practice of 'usern...@...'. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 5:43:29 pm Mano wrote: Now the OP will be wondering why the heck s/he ever joined this list :-) or s/he may have learnt that security is a process - holes appear, they are plugged. More holes appear and they too are plugged. And the list gets more and more secure. (see my post on another thread). Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and security. Unless you are contending that exposing email addresses in publicly accessible archives is a good thing? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: so you are still contending that what you did was according to etiquette? btw, did mailman obscure it or did the list admin do it? I'm contending that though loud and whiney, your complaint was all gas. Mailman did it, as you might know by now. As for your attempted defence, I have seen that the most common defence in rape cases is - 'she is a woman of loose character, so no big deal'. Sounds familiar no? Dunno, that seems more in your line. -- Roshan Mathews http://teamtalk.im ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
2009/12/24 Roshan Mathews rmath...@gmail.com We usually send our holiday greetings to Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com so that he can send us a consolidated list at the end of the festival time. Please do so from now on, instead of mailing the group. Was this system actually in place before this? I mean sending the greetings to Kenneth or is it just sarcasm? -- Thanks Regards Varrun Ramani Amrita University '10 Web: varrunr.wordpress.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 6:04:34 pm Roshan Mathews wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: so you are still contending that what you did was according to etiquette? btw, did mailman obscure it or did the list admin do it? I'm contending that though loud and whiney, your complaint was all gas. kindly refrain from abusive language Mailman did it, as you might know by now. actually mailman did not - the address is not obfuscated. And thanks to your carelessness, a hole has been discovered in the archives. Can we take this as your Christmas present to the list? As for your attempted defence, I have seen that the most common defence in rape cases is - 'she is a woman of loose character, so no big deal'. Sounds familiar no? Dunno, that seems more in your line. so you are *still* contending that exposing email addresses in public archives is a good thing to do? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 6:04:52 pm Varrun Ramani wrote: We usually send our holiday greetings to Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com so that he can send us a consolidated list at the end of the festival time. Please do so from now on, instead of mailing the group. Was this system actually in place before this? I mean sending the greetings to Kenneth or is it just sarcasm? sarcasm - apparently he got annoyed that I had sent a mail to the list asking people to refrain from flooding the list with season's greetings. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
Hi, No offense. But can we please keep this discussion offline? People involved can come to a conclusion offline and then post the suggestion, if and only if it is *necessary* to post it in a Linux users' mailing list! -- Thanks and Regards, Hrishikesh Murali ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 5:43:29 pm Mano wrote: Now the OP will be wondering why the heck s/he ever joined this list :-) or s/he may have learnt that security is a process - holes appear, they are plugged. More holes appear and they too are plugged. And the list gets more and more secure. (see my post on another thread). Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and security. Unless you are contending that exposing email addresses in publicly accessible archives is a good thing? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com Apologize to the other members, but could not resist pointing this out: When I click on lawgon.livejournal.com, I can see half your life history (and your email id) listed there!! So, what's the big deal here? That said, I agree that mailman should do a better job of scrubbing email ids - at least for the sake of other members really would like to keep it private! regds, mano ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Making a Linux HTPC at home
On Thursday 24 December 2009, Gourav Shah wrote: http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-fusion-remote-black.html and http://www.sethiainfotech.com/antec-multimedia-station-premier-delu xe-ir-receiver-and-remote.html there is a tiny cabinet from zebronics called chotu. http://www.zebronics.net/cabinets_%C2%A0Chotu.asp iBall has a mini cabinet for Nettop boards and the LiL from Circle. I have bought the Lil and the real estate inside is quite adequate for a nettop but the physical dimensions will not allow a regular PCI card. The quality of the Circle Lil is the best among that from iBall Circle etc. -- Arun Khan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Mano manoka...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.comwrote: On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 5:43:29 pm Mano wrote: Now the OP will be wondering why the heck s/he ever joined this list :-) or s/he may have learnt that security is a process - holes appear, they are plugged. More holes appear and they too are plugged. And the list gets more and more secure. (see my post on another thread). Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and security. Unless you are contending that exposing email addresses in publicly accessible archives is a good thing? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com Apologize to the other members, but could not resist pointing this out: When I click on lawgon.livejournal.com, I can see half your life history (and your email id) listed there!! So, what's the big deal here? There is a big deal. KG has already gave example. his contact email id belongs to him. he has full right to share with anybody at anyplace. we do not have this right (unless he release his contact details under some CC license). That said, I agree that mailman should do a better job of scrubbing email ids - at least for the sake of other members really would like to keep it private! regds, mano ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc Please try to stop his thread -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya ( नरेन्द्र सिसोदिया ) │Society for Knowledge Commons │Web : http://narendra.techfandu.org └─┘ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] [ANN] tamil fonts
On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 12:43 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: you could file an issue as no mailing list has been set up yet A team is has been set up at launchpad, with few contributors giving feedback interacting often. Details at: https://launchpad.net/~tamilfontsteam -- Sri Ramadoss M ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 6:58:25 pm Mano wrote: Apologize to the other members, but could not resist pointing this out: When I click on lawgon.livejournal.com, I can see half your life history (and your email id) listed there!! So, what's the big deal here? you find a man beaten and dying on the road - so you give him one more shot and finish him off - anyway he is dying, so what is the big deal there? some one's privacy is invaded - pictures of him naked are plastered all over the internet - so you join in the party and paste a few more in flickr - anyway he is exposed so what is the big deal in exposing him some more? unfortunately it is a sad part of our society in general and our justice system in particular that it is usually the victim of the crime who is on trial when an offence is prosecuted. I know a police station near Chromepet which refused to accept a burglary complaint saying: 'why did you keep your jewels in your house - you are at fault!' and before some one chirps up and says that this is OT to this group, I would like to point out that freedom and the right to privacy are an integral part of the free software movement - and the respect to privacy is an integral part of the war against spammers which we in this list, and every one in all internet forums is fighting. I am a little surprised that you agree that the obfuscation done on our list is insufficient. After all some spammer must have already written a script and harvested the addresses - so what is the big deal about this? And I suppose you will say the same about Stallman's campaign against sacrificing privacy to cloud computing firms, or Behlendorf's campaign against sacrificing privacy to gmail. Everyone is doing it - so what is the big deal? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] how to keep this list secure [was] Hai from Lifna...........new member
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 6:29:59 pm Hrishikesh Murali wrote: No offense. But can we please keep this discussion offline? People involved can come to a conclusion offline and then post the suggestion, if and only if it is necessary to post it in a Linux users' mailing list! this discussion *is* necessary for a Linux users' mailing list - how do you think you can enjoy this list with minumum or no spam? Do you think it happened by magic? Or that there is some committee somewhere to protect you? All of us are involved in keeping the list more and more secure - and also in giving confidence to people who join this list that whatever private information they give to the list will be protected. That their email addresses will not be harvested. That they will not receive unsolicited mail. etc etc etc. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Hai from Lifna...........new member
I know a police station near Chromepet which refused to accept a burglary complaint saying: 'why did you keep your jewels in your house - you are at fault!' Oops, there is a lesson or two there for us chromepet residents :-). Abishek ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
[Ilugc] [OT] Job openings for PHP / PERL @ BIJA
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