Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 11 Media

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

Hi.

> I have received the Fedora 11 Media set from Redhat. Thanks to Rahul for this 
> massive effort.
> I would like to distribute the Fedora 11 media to the people
> who have requested them from chennai.

I'd like to have a pair of x86 and x64 DVDs. How can I get it?

Salvadesswaran Srinivasan,
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[Ilugc] Backing up GPG

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

I've got a new notebook and want to migrate my Fedora 11 installation.
I've installed Fedora 11 and transferred my files. But I am unable to
retrieve my GPG key file from my Fedora 11 deskop.

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[Ilugc] Re: Re: Backing up GPG (Shakthi Kannan)

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

> If you backed up your ~ folder, then it should be in it: ~/.gnupg/

Thanks. I forgot to transfer my entire home folder including the hidden ones.


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[Ilugc] Re: learning C++

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

Well, I'm also a product of the same system but studied C in 11th and
Java in 12th. We had a wonderful teacher who taught us the principles
of programming too. The current syllabus was introduced the year after
I passed out, and prescribes C for 11 and C++ for 12. My brother is in
Class 12 too, the problem is they are using older C++, not the ANSI
version. And the books seems to touch on most parts without going in
depth. He however uses http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ to learn
the language, and has problems with ANSI C++ and the traditional
syllabus C++. I don't know of any interactive tool, but Deitel's books
are really good for beginners, I used it in my 12th holidays to learn
C++.

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[Ilugc] Re: which laptop is best for development ?

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

Have a look at the Samsung R418, my new notebook model. I got it for
32 k. But a better processor:

Intel Core 2 Duo T6500 @ 2.1 GHz
2 GB DDR RAM @ 800 MHz
320 GB HDD
Bluetooth
Wireless - included in all laptops!
* No card reader though

And it works perfectly on Fedora 11. If you prefer Pentium Dual Core,
you may save 2 to 3 k.

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[Ilugc] Fedora GNU/Linux Event @ SRM tech fest

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Fedora GNU/Linux Event @ SRM:

An event named Linux Lingo was organised today as a part of SRM
University’s tech fest, Aarush 2009. Myself and Mr. Ramadoss from
NRCFOSS, Fedora Ambassasador conducted the event. Ramadoss introduced
the students to the philosophy of free software and Stallman’s crusade
against the imposition of proprietary software. He delved into the GNU
philosophy and gave several examples to emphasise the concept.

He then talked about the open source community following which we
demonstrated a Fedora 11 installation. We got a volunteer to install
the operating system. The audience had several doubts about the
install process, and we resolved them. For the fun of it we tried to
install in Hindi once, but reverted to English finally.

After the demonstration, I spoke about the software available in
Fedora, and then about a few basic command line utilities. It was
followed by a talk on bash scripting.

The day ended with our answering a few questions from the students
about open source, real IT revolution and choice of software. Over a
hundred students participated in the event and were introduced to the
free software movement. We thank the coordinators of the event, Shiv
Deepak, Vipul Jain, Anisha Kaul and Prakhar Agarwal for the enthusiasm
they showed in organising this event.

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[Ilugc] Samsung notebooks good for us?

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

I see this ad for Samsung notebooks in The Hindu everyday, and it
gives the configuration of the notebook and then says: Pay Rs. 4000
EXTRA and get Windows Vista. This is a good start, and I very much
hope more vendors follow suit. For many here, 4000 is a large amount
(more than 10% of the notebook price in most cases. Mine cost
32500.)and it might just tilt the playing field making it more level
than before.

P.S. I got a Samsung R 418 notebook a fortnight back with no OS and it
runs Fedora 11 as smooth as an apple.


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[Ilugc] Re: Samsung notebooks good for us?

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

> was it no os or was it dos?

It said FreeDOS, but when I got it, the hard disk was unformatted. So
I guess I was lucky :P



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[Ilugc] SFD 09 @ SSN

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A one day workshop was conducted under the auspices of the SSN Student
Chapter of IEEE by the Department of Computer Science and Engineering
in association with SSN LUG on September 19, 2009 in commemoration of
Software Freedom Day. Students in junior years from B.E, M.E. and MCA
were initiated to Free and Open Source Software(FOSS).

Sri Ramadoss Mahalingam, associate at NRCFOSS, AU-KBC introduced the
participants to the realm of open source software. The students were
all ears as he spoke about how Stallman initiated a revolution in the
software industry, that will only grow as SaaS becomes the primary
model of business. Then Srikanth (logic), SSN alumnus guided the
attendees about the installation of Linux OS. Salvadesswaran, student
coordinator then helped them to get a feel of the system, and the
applications they'll use on their systems. Thana Shyam, SSN alumnus
taught them the rudiments of LAMP, and how to create applications
using PHP and MySQL.

Our sincere thanks to Mr. V. Balasubramanian and Mr. D. Venkata Vara
Prasad, Assistant Professors, Dept. of CSE, SSN CE for organising this
event and exposing the juniors to the domain of FOSS. We are also
grateful to SSN-LUG and the SSN Student Chapter of IEEE for aiding us
in the smooth conduct of the event.

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[Ilugc] The Hindu features SFD

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

Hi friends,

It was a surprise waking up late this morning to see The Hindu's
Information Tehnology page featuring two columns, both about FOSS and
SFD. I saw it on Page 12 of the Chennai Edition, but I bet the other
editions would also have carried it.

I found them on the web too:

http://beta.thehindu.com/sci-tech/article22592.ece

http://beta.thehindu.com/sci-tech/article22595.ece

I believe that it is great that we're being featured in the mainstream
media, and hope to see more of FOSS related news in TV too pretty
soon.

P.S.: I think that The Hindu's beta site uses Oracle, but I'd love
them to use Drupal or Joomla.

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Re: [ILUGC]-

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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Ranjith Kumar  wrote:
> Hi Peopo,
>    Whenever I update distro (Fedora 11) the user account which i used gets
> crashed i can`t login the same account again (used for update). I googled
> but no result found. It happens third time in a row. Is there any problem
> with Gnome.Right now i can`t login as root in GUI.
>
> Cheers,
> Ranjith,
>
> http://ranjith10z.wordpress.com/


If you update the whole system, then probably a new entry is created
in /boot/grub/menu.lst. Make sure that the system boots from the new
kernel, and if this doesn't work, delete the gconf files from your
home directory. I had the same problem a fortnight back. This was what
I did to resolve the problem

Regards,

Salvadesswaran Srinivasan.
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Re: [Ilugc] London Stock Exchange Moves from .NET to Linux

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Mohan R  wrote:
> Where there is High Performance, there is *nix.
>
> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/1742203/London-Stock-Exchange-Rejects-NET-For-Open-Source


Well, sometime back(1 or 2 years) MS was advertising Windows Server
using LSE as a case study for TCO and enterprise scalability. Now life
has indeed come full circle for LSE. This is a shot in the arm for
*NIX indeed. And all the crap in the MS ads are unravelling their true
colours now.

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meet - Oct 10th 3PM

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Bharathi Subramanian
 wrote:
> ILUGC Monthly Meet (Oct 10th):-
>
> Time : Sat Oct 10th 15:00 IST 2009 (**3PM**)
> Venue: ADI-TeNeT Seminar Hall,
>       Room No: CSD 320,
>       Electrical Science Block (ESB),
>       IIT-Madras.
>
> Map: http://www.cse.iitm.ac.in/locn-map.php
>     (Our Meet is @ CSD Block of ESB)
>
>> Talk 1: WebTest
> Speaker : Bhuvaneswaran A
> Duration: 45mins
>
>
>> Talk 2: IRC Step by Step
> Speaker : Kenneth Gonsalves
> Duration: 20mins

I'll be there. My first ILUGC meet :)

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day (mp3info - playtime printing and id3 tag editing)

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:
> mp3info prints mp3 related information of mp3 audio files.
>
> $ mp3info foo.mp3
> foo.mp3 does not have ID3 1.x tag
>
> It doesn't print anything since some mp3 files do not have
> id3 tags.
>
> $ mp3info -p "playtime : %m%s  Bitrate:%r\n" foo.mp3
> playtime : 718  Bitrate:64
>
> $ mp3info -p "%m\n" foo.mp3
> 7
>
> The above 718 means 7:18 mins which is 7 minutes and 18 seconds.
>
> Here are some more options you can use with -p switch.
>
>   %f     Filename without the path [string]
>                 %F     Filename with the path [string]
>                 %k     File size in KB [integer]
>                 %a     Artist [string]
>                 %c     Comment [string]
>                 %g     Musical genre [string]
>                 %G     Musical genre number [integer]
>                 %l     Album name [string]
>                 %n     Track [integer]
>                 %t     Track Title [string]
>                 %y     Year [string]
>                 %C     Copyright flag [string]
>                 %e     Emphasis [string]
>                 %E     CRC Error protection [string]
>                 %L     MPEG Layer [string]
>                 %O     Original material flag [string]
>                 %o     Stereo/mono mode [string]
>                 %p     Padding [string]
>                 %v     MPEG Version [float]
>                 %u     Number of good audio frames [integer]
>                 %b     Number of corrupt audio frames [integer]
>                 %Q     Sampling frequency in Hz [integer]
>                 %q     Sampling frequency in kHz [integer]
>                 %r     Bit Rate in kbps (type and meaning affected by
> -r option)
>                 %m     Playing time: minutes only [integer]
>                 %s     Playing time: seconds only [integer] (usually
> used in con‐
>                        junction with %m)
>                 %S     Total playing time in seconds [integer]
>                 %%     A single percent sign

Wow. That's a really cool tip. Works wonderful on my small well tagged
library :)

Salva
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux article in Dinamalar

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

2009/10/11 பத்மநாதன் :
> The article about Linux
>
> http://dinamalar.in/Supplementary/cmalar_detail.asp?news_id=863


எனக்கு பிடித்த வரிகள்:
5. அடிக்கடி கிராஷ் ஆகி, நீல நிறத்தில் "உங்கள் கம்ப்யூட்டர் போச்சே!
மீண்டும் ரீ பூட் செய்திடுங்கள்" என்றெல்லாம், லினக்ஸில் செய்தி வராது.

எவ்வளவு உண்மை!
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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day (firebug - web development debug console Firefox plugin)

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

> Firebug is very very very powerful. ;)


I second that. Most of my JS and CSS needs to work on Firefox, so I
use Firebug to make sure my pages display OK.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux article in Dinamalar

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

2009/10/13 Girish Venkatachalam :
>
> Apropos of this I wrote a Haiku on this long ago in 2001.
>
> " Reboot today, tomorrow, day after tomorrow
> And the day after that.
> Windows. What else? "
>
> ;)
>

That's cool, but nowadays, days turn to hours with Windows :) Not
every hour, every few hours, after installing software, after eating,
after tea, after whatever you do that isn't palatable to Microsoft.
Using Linux for 4 years has saved me from premature high tension!
வாழ்க நமது கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள் இயக்கம்!
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[Ilugc] Keyboard configuration for LED brightness

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

Dear All,

I have been using a Samsung R418 notebook for a month or so, but one
thing that beats me is configuring the brightness of the LED display.
The keys are Function+up/down arrows, but it doesn't invoke the
Brighness applet on any distro. The volume applet works fine with
Function+right/left keys. Can anybody help me out?

P.S. The keys work on LCD, only not on my LED.

Regards,
Salva
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Re: [Ilugc] one more win for open source

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

2009/10/14 தங்கமணி அருண் :
> London stock exchange start using open source
>
> http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2568
>
> --
> அன்புடன்
> அருண்

பங்குச் சந்தைகளிலும் இனி கட்டற்ற மென்பொருளின் ஆதிக்கம் துவங்கும் காலம்
இப்பொழுது கனிந்து விட்டது எனலாம். க.மெ. இல்லாத இடம் ஒன்றும் இல்லை
எனும் நிலை விரைவில் ஏற்படும் என்று நம்பலாம்.

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Re: [Ilugc] one more win for open source

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On 2009/10/14 Rahul Sundaram  wrote :
> Hardly the first time a stock exchange is using Linux however. A large
> majority of the stock exchanges these days are already running Linux.
> Look it up.
>
> Rahul
>

Yeah, but LSE and NASDAQ are the biggies, if they move to Linux, that
would be real dominance. Now, if only NASDAQ had the shrewdness to
switch over, it'd be curtains for that big proprietary software
vendor.

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Re: [Ilugc] one more win for open source

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:

> "Biggies"?  Let's look at the list of largest stock changes.
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSL2224181520070623
>
> NYSE is right at the top. Guess what it is running?
>
> http://customers.redhat.com/2008/05/12/nyse/
>
> I will leave it up to you to check the rest.
>
> Rahul

Wow, I sure didn't know much about stock exchanges. So this is a place
where Linux rules the roost! For once, the stock exchanges bring cheer
:)

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Re: [Ilugc] Keyboard configuration for LED brightness

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On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Ashok Gautham
 wrote:

> Try xbacklight -<%age to reduce> or xbacklight +<% to increase>

I installed xbacklight 1.1.3, and then tried to execute it, but 'No
outputs have backlight property' comes up. I tried to do something
with xrandr, but even that didn't work.

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Re: [Ilugc] Which Web Server is good?

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ramkumar  wrote:
> Hi Friends,
>               we have a application developed by java.we have mysql DB.our
> application  is dynamically shows charts and images depends upon data stored
> on mysql DB(through query).which web server is good to use in this stage.how
> to make our application work as fast. Thanks in advance
>

For java applications, I'd suggest either GlassFish (3 is really good,
am using the preview now) or Apache Tomcat 6. They work very well with
MySQL, provided you have the correct JDBC driver installed. I've been
working on this platform on Fedora 11 for 4 months now, and Slackware
13 for a week now. Runs without a hitch on both setups.

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Re: [Ilugc] Whitehouse.gov switch to Drupal

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:28 PM, steve  wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what you are trying to imply here. It is the NICs
> responsibility to, among other things, present the government's websites
> with which they have been entrusted in a manner that "...not only brands an
> organization (ie: it's clients -- the Indian government) as one 'keeping
> pace with the changing times' but also acts as its reflection before the
> entire world." (from
> http://indiaimage.nic.in/services.html#Web_design_development)
>


Read this on that page: "We also support state of.the-art web
technologies on our servers right from CGI, Perl, ASP, PHP, Front Page
Extensions, JSP, JAVA etc. Our capabilities include supporting a
variety of databases including MS SQL, MS Access, MySQL etc."

Seriously, is frontpage state of the art? And would anyone use MS
Access for a web site? I wouldn't recommend it to my enemy! Not that I
have enemies, though. CGI is also pretty dated IMHO. It's good, but
the load is quite unsustainable.

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Re: [Ilugc] Sabayon 5.0 DVD

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

2009/10/31 பத்மநாதன் :
> LUGS,
>            November month LFY and DIGIT Having Sabayon 5.0 DVD.

Hi.
Thanks for the info. I have queued it after Ubuntu 9.04 and a few more
distros in my download list. This will save some bandwidth and power
too :)

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

[Salvadesswaran P.S.]

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:
> $ kill -l
>
>
> This is kill -ell
>
> I wanted to show that  it is not the numeral '1' but 'l' ,English ell.
>
> Anyway you kill a process with this command.
>
> $ kill 3423
>
> to kill the process whose ID is 3423.
>
> By default SIGKILL is sent I think.
>
> You can send any signal from the above list by using
>
> $ kill -HUP 3423
>
> for sending SIGHUP. Just drop the SIG prefix and send.

When you cannot kill a process using kill or top, use killall
 to purge all instances of that process. Often useful
when Firefox says another instance is running while testing web
applications.

$ killall firefox
$ killall opera

To find if the process is running and its process id, use:

$ ps aux | grep 

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (kill - get signal list and kill processes)

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On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:
> $ kill -l
>
> Anyway you kill a process with this command.
>
> $ kill 3423
>
> to kill the process whose ID is 3423.
>
> By default SIGKILL is sent I think.

No, signal ID 15 (SIGTERM) is sent by default.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to attend incoming call in empathy?

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:

> Some of the bugs are fixed in the point updates of GNOME 2.28.2. It is
> available in Fedora 12. Not sure other distros are picking up updates.
>

It's working well on my Fedora 12, updated to the nightly compose from
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[Ilugc] Linux for older people

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Dear all,

I just stumbled on an interesting bit of news at the BBC site here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8352606.stm

The new PC designed specifically for older people, who're using
computers for the first time. And guess what, it runs on Linux.

The page at http://www.discount-age.co.uk/simplicity_computers/isitsecure/ says:
"The simplicity computer is powered by Eldy and runs the Linux Mint
operating system. Linux Mint and Eldy are far more immune to viruses,
spyware and Trojans and other security threats than other systems.
Best of all, Linux Mint is completely free, as are all the
applications, as well as all updates and upgrades to future versions."

So Mint is the base, and Eldy runs on top of it. I'm hoping some
vendor in India creates Linux-only PCs like Emperor Linux, System76,
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Re: [Ilugc] PDF Viewer with Editing capabilities

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On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Balachandar  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>   I m using evince document viewer to view my pdf files in gnome
> environment.But in evince i cant edit or highlight or underline anything in my
> pdf files.But i need them to take notes in pdf books when i study them.Is 
> there
> any tool ??
>

I've used PDF ToolKit.  It works
pretty well. I've watermarked PDFs in the past. Hope it does what you
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Re: [Ilugc] Linux for older people

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On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> And nothing OT about discussing the needs of the elderly in computing.

This thread is about how Linux makes using PCs easier for older
people. So I guess it just fits in. Not technical, though. But we're
all Linux users here, and I thought it might interest a few luggies.

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Re: [Ilugc] [LANGUAGETIP - C ] mplayer patch for footpedal in medical transcription

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> Anyway now please go to this page:
>
> http://gayari-hitech.com/languageclasses
>

You got the URL wrong :)

http://gayatri-hitech.com/languageclasses

works :)
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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSF_TN] Decmber 5th & 6th, a Two-day workshop @ SSN by FSFTN

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On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Suganthi T
 wrote:
> It is not just to the organizer. It is for everyone who is interested in
> attending the meet. They too may have some suggestions right..


I'm studying at SSN though I'm not really interested in attending this
meet. Anyway, I'll try contacting the MCA director when I go to
college and forward your views.

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (cygwin - POSIX environment on Windows)

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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

> For guys acquainted with UNIX/Linux working on Windows can be like being put 
> in jail.


I know how it feels. Forced to use Windows for a couple of days to
prepare for my C# and .NET exam :( But I was on a VM, so had access to
my PC!

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Re: [Ilugc] .a-tip-a-day. (cygwin - POSIX environment on Windows)

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On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Girish Venkatachalam
 wrote:

> You can install Cygwin from http://www.cygwin.com
>
> You can select their wide cornucopia of packages and you get every
> single UNIX utility you can think of.

And there's a Cygwin mirror at IIT-M. I downloaded all packages from
that for working on a friend's system.

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Re: [Ilugc][OT] Arguments following an out-of-subject-context post

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Healthy arguments for the sake of spreading knowledge are welcome, but
these arguments are not palatable on a public mailing list. Let peace
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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora 12 Lets Users Install Signed Packages, Sans Root Privileges

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:
>
> Note that it only allows you to installed signed packages from the
> official Fedora repository.  However this is likely going to be reverted
> in an update.  For those wanting to revert now, refer to
>
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-Security.html


This is a pretty forward looking feature for desktop users, as long as
the packages are clean. And they normally are clean enough if they're
signed packages in my experience and opinion. Now I can tell my
friends that they can install the packages they need for any purpose.
They are prone to being too lazy to enter the root password to install
package(s), like most normal desktop users. And PackageKit rocks along
with in-built presto.

Of course, for public computers and servers, this needs to be modified
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Re: [Ilugc] Help Required downloading fedora through proxy servers using torrents

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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, benedict nicholas
 wrote:
> I would like to download fedora 12 ISO image using torrents in my fedora 10 
> machine.
>  I' am connected  to internet through proxy server. Is it possible to 
> download it.
>
> Currently I get message as stalled.

What client do you use? Maybe this link could help:

http://filesharefreak.com/2008/04/16/how-to-download-torrents-through-a-proxyfirewall/

If the proxy server is blocking BitTorrent (most do) you can use the
metalinks to download by using multiple links. I'm using wxDownload
Fast on Fedora 11 to get Fedora 12. It creates connections to multiple
servers and evens out the load.

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Re: [Ilugc] How to secure Linux server from hackers

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Ramkumar  wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>                       we have setup server with centos in remote place.we
> have only default security settings .how can we prevent our server from
> hackers.Guide me to handle it.Thanks in advance.

I'd suggest you use OpenBSD or Engarde Linux. I've tried Engarde, it
is very good from the security point of view, but you need another
client to use the web interface. And whatever flavour you use, keep an
eye on the log, use an IDS (Engarde has one) and turn off needless
services. I agree with KG "Security is a process".

 [1] http://www.engardelinux.org/

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Re: [Ilugc] Fedora-12 for i386 Repository info as PDF file

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On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:21 AM, LinuXpert Academy
 wrote:
> Dear Fedora Lovers,
>
> I have created a PDF version for Fedora-12 i386 everything repository.
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/linuxbaskar/Home/fedora12spd.pdf


Wow, that is awesome work. Thanks sir, it'll be of great use as a
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[Ilugc] EVDO drivers for GNU/Linux

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Dear all,

I'm thinking of getting a BSNL EVDO data card for internet access on
my laptop. I heard that the cards used are manufactuered by Huawei, a
Chinese company. I want to be sure if drivers exist for this
peripheral on GNU/Linux before I splurge on the card. Does anyone have
experience with EVDO data cards on GNU/Linux?

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Re: [Ilugc] EVDO drivers for GNU/Linux

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On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Varrun Ramani  wrote:

> I Use EVDO on ubuntu and it works "on the fly". No additional configuration
> required. The Network Manager automatically detects it.
> Otherwise, there is program called "wvdial" which automatically configures
> the modem, all  you have to do is enter your username and password. The only
> drawback is you may not get a good as a GUI as you do if you install your
> drivers in Windows where you can check Max Speed. But that is a small
> sacrifice for "Independence"

Thanks everyone. I'm buying the data card next week. I don't need
flashy GUIs anyway, they consume too much resources which can be used
for better purposes.

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu, Mandriva DVDs

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On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Varrun Ramani  wrote:
> Where you can get "LFY's" in Chennai(maybe around Ashok Nagar)? Because
> whenever i go to Higginbotham's they never seemed to have heard the name. So
> that definitely rules out smaller magazine vendors :)

Try the railway stations :) They have most magazines on the market.
And I buy my copy of LFY from railway stations.
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Re: [Ilugc] hi sir am kiran

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, kiran kumar  wrote:
> hi sir there is problem on saving php files in ubuntu
>
> can any one tell is there any idea to save correctly
>
> it saying u could not save the file in var/www/kk.php
>
>
> it also saying
>
> you dont have permission to save this necessary file
>
> please check that you  typed the  location correctly and try again
>
>
>
>
>
>
> please tell the details of saving the file and with extension and were can i
> save this file

You need to do:

$ sudo gedit file.php
in order to save files to protected directories.
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Re: [Ilugc] Google Chrome

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eknath Venkataramani
 wrote:
> How stable is Chrome for fedora?
> Has anybody used it?

I use it to do some testing, and it is pretty stable. For casual
browsing, it fares very well on Fedora 11 as well as 12. For prolonged
browsing, Firefox is tops though. The latest beta from the
repositories is very stable. Try it out, you won't regret it.

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Re: [Ilugc] Google Chrome

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Eknath Venkataramani
 wrote:
> How stable is Chrome for fedora?
> Has anybody used it?

This is how it is done:

As superuser:

#  echo "[chromium]
   name = Chromium Test Packages
   baseurl=http://spot.fedorapeople.org/chromium/F\$releasever/
   enabled=1
   gpgcheck=0 " > /etc/yum.repos.d/chromium.repo

Then use yum update; yum install chromium

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Re: [Ilugc] Google Chrome

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Eknath Venkataramani
 wrote:
> What exactly to you mean by prolonged browsing. Do you mean merely browsing
> for long hours?

Yeah. Browsing for a long time, with many tabs. Firefox 3.5 and 3.6
use far less memory than Chrome, at least on my machines. I should
have called it 'power browsing' or 'vettiness' :P

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Re: [Ilugc] Google Chrome

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On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:34 PM, S. Senthil Anand  wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Browsing for a long time, with many tabs. Firefox 3.5 and 3.6
>> use far less memory than Chrome, at least on my machines. I should
>> have called it 'power browsing' or 'vettiness' :P
>
> Isn't that by design ?
>
> By using a separate process per tab, Chrome is trading off speed and
> security with memory usage.

It is, and a long browsing session with many tabs and add-ons can
almost bring my desktop (albeit a ~5 years old one) to a halt. I use
Chrome mostly to test some web applications, or for a quick mail
check. Firefox is quite slick at this task.


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[Ilugc] Reverting to default window manager in Fedora 12 GNOME

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Dear all,

I was fiddling around with the desktop managers available on Fedora 12, and
I chose GNOME/E16 option from the login screen on my desktop. My family
has a tough time adjusting to it though, so I reverted to GNOME but it still
loads E16 as the window manager in place of the more familiar metacity.

Does anyone know how to revert back to metacity? I have to do this manually
from a virtual terminal for each session, and the other folks don't want to be
 doing that everytime they use the PC :)

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Re: [Ilugc] Reverting to default window manager in Fedora 12 GNOME [solved]

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On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Shrinivasan T  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Try this link.
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15193.html
>
> various methods are described.
>
> Test those things and share your experience.
Thanks for the link. I tried to find the files specified there, but in vain.
None of those methods worked, so I went into XFCE and uninstalled E16.
When I logged back into GNOME the title bars were missing, so I enabled
desktop effects from the terminal using gnome-control-center.
Then I disabled compiz again. All izz well now :)

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Re: [Ilugc] JDK RPM Package

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On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:48 PM, kannan manoharan
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anyone please tell me where i can get the JDK RPM PACKAGE
>
> Prefer version - jdk-1_5_0_15
>
> Thanks
> Kannan M


If you use Fedora 11/12, OpenJDK works well.

su -c 'yum install java-1.6.0-openjdk' will install the latest version.

If you really want Sun's JDK, then you can download it from their
site. It is a bin file. cp it to /usr/local and then install it there.
Then add it to your PATH variable. OpenJDK saves you this grunt work
:)

And don't use all caps, even for subject.
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Re: [Ilugc] Downloading all Fedora Packages- Suggestions Required!

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 4:51 PM, benedict nicholas
 wrote:
> Dear Friends,
>
> I would like to download all the Fedora packages and create a local 
> repository.
>
> How to download all the 8000+ packages?
>
> Kindly help.

Use rsync to download them. Or else, I can share my repo. I have up to
date repositories for fedora main, updates, and rpmfusion.

Contact me off list so that we can share it :)

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Re: [Ilugc] Downloading all Fedora Packages- Suggestions Required!

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Gaurav Paliwal
 wrote:
>>
>> I would like to download all the Fedora packages and create a local
>> repository.
>>
>> How to download all the 8000+ packages?
>>
>
>  “FedX” is a tool for syncing, configuring Fedora offline repositories.
>  http://gitorious.org/fedx
>

This one is new to me. I'll try it for my next sync.

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Re: [Ilugc] Downloading all Fedora Packages- Suggestions Required!

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Salvadesswaran P.S.
 wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Gaurav Paliwal
>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to download all the Fedora packages and create a local
>>> repository.
>>>
>>> How to download all the 8000+ packages?
>>>
>>
>>  “FedX” is a tool for syncing, configuring Fedora offline repositories.
>>  http://gitorious.org/fedx
>>
>
> This one is new to me. I'll try it for my next sync.


I looked up the code, and it looks like I've been using it for some time.
Mr. Shakti Kannan sent me the offline.repo file, and I've been
using them since Fedora 12 release date. After downloading, this can
be used to enable a local repository. I'll use FedX for downloading too
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Re: [Ilugc] ilugc.in stats

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On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Saravanan S  wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Bharathi Subramanian wrote:
>
>>
>> Don't learn every thing from Wikipedia. KG wrote the actual meaning
>> and link refers a business term, which is inferred from the actual
>> meaning.
>>
>>
> Some words got different meanings in different contexts.
> I am sure that was not the right answer by KG to the question.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>
>>
>> I think my answer is better than yours (or is ilugc.in a business?)
>>
>>
> Its better to ignore answering simple questions than insulting them giving
> undesired replies.
> I shouldn't point this to the one who posted the "advice to newbies
> mail".
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Mano  wrote:
>
>>
>> I thought Saravanan only suffered from 'the last word' syndrome, but now I
>> know he also suffers from the 'foot-in-mouth' disease :-)
>>
>>
> Blindly do not support others, please think for yourself. ;)


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[Ilugc] Interfacing microcontroller with a Linux PC

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Hi.

Some of my friends are doing their project in microcontrollers, and
use Fedora on the development system.
Data transmission on parallel ports is working, and they need to
interface the microcontroller with the PC now.
A detailed description is at [1].

I don't have any prior experience interfacing microcontrollers to PCs,
so kindly provide pointers to accomplish this task.

[1]: http://pastebin.com/f2bf606a

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Re: [Ilugc] Interfacing microcontroller with a Linux PC

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Arun Venkataswamy  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Salvadesswaran P.S. <
> salvadesswa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Data transmission on parallel ports is working, and they need to
>> interface the microcontroller with the PC now.
>>
>
> If you are sure that the data transmission is working from the Linux desktop
> using that C code, it means that the Linux based computer is OK to be used
> as a host or a slave to the micro controller's application. Beyond this, you
> need to tell us what exactly you want for us to help you?!  Is the micro
> controller also running Linux?
>
> Like what Thyagarajan said, normally micro controller apps are designed to
> use the serial port unless of course you have a specific reason such as high
> speed communication etc.
>
> A word of caution through - Setup the parallel port in the BIOS setup as
> standard SPP. Otherwise you will have to implement the corresponding
> protocol in the micro controller hardware and software.
>

Thanks for your guidance. I'll check out how it works. I think the
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[Ilugc] Zero byte and (possibly) corrupt files

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Hi,

I'm running a Fedora 12 - Windows 7 (For Class 12 Turbo C :( ) dual
boot on my laptop.
I have a local mirror of the Fedora 12 repo,but all of a sudden most
rpms became 0 sized files,
viewed from Fedora as well as Windows. A few more home videos have also been
subject to this attack, and I'm unable to recover them.

Is there any possible way to recover them, either from Linux or
Windows (I prefer the former),
or are the files gone away forever?

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Re: [Ilugc] Help to choose a better laptop

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Ashok Gautham  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Ravi Jaya  wrote:
>> http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
>> http://www.linux-laptop.net/
>> http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
>> check the above links, if it could help you in any sort. It would be great.
>>
>> Disclaimer:  I am sure the about any of those  information mentioned in
>> those sites are cent percent correct.
> Missed a NOT?
>
> @OP: I think Acer Laptops have an option to buy with only Linpus Lite.
> I own an Acer 5738 and I love it and blogged about it too.
> But many complain about its looks...
>

And the arrow keys on Acer Aspire laptops are so small, people keep
pressing the keys around them.

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Re: [Ilugc] Zero byte and (possibly) corrupt files

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Salvadesswaran P.S.
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running a Fedora 12 - Windows 7 (For Class 12 Turbo C :( ) dual
>> boot on my laptop.
>> I have a local mirror of the Fedora 12 repo,but all of a sudden most
>> rpms became 0 sized files,
>> viewed from Fedora as well as Windows. A few more home videos have also been
>> subject to this attack, and I'm unable to recover them.
>
> Boot with a LiveCD and what do you see?
>
>> Is there any possible way to recover them, either from Linux or
>> Windows (I prefer the former),
>> or are the files gone away forever?
>
> You can try "fsck --f /dev/"
>

Live CDs too have the same problem. I tried dozens of them, including
System Rescue distros, but I have not had any clue so far.

I'll try fsck when I get to the machine later today. Thank you.

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Re: [Ilugc] Is nagios is open source

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:21 PM, subhojit ojha  wrote:
> Hi all,
>        I m planning to setup nagios in my server, I want to know whether it
> is open source and freely distributed?
>

Yes, Nagios is open source and is provided under the GPL.


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Re: [Ilugc] Is nagios is open source

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On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM, steve  wrote:
> On 02/17/2010 04:13 PM, subhojit ojha wrote:
>>>
>>>  >  Yes, Nagios is open source and is provided under the GPL.
>>>
>> I got these information from
>> http://www.nagios.com/products/nagiosxi/pricing/
>> Licensed HostsPriceUnlimited$1,295 USD51 - 100$995 USD1 - 50$595 USD
>>
>
> That is for NagiosXI which is a different product from Nagios OSS:
> http://www.nagios.com/products/nagiososs
>
> http://www.nagios.com/supportMedia/files/datasheets/Monitoring%20Product%20Feature%20Matrix.pdf
>
> Also, note that just because some software is OSS does not mean it would
> also be free of cost.
>

Nagios Core is open source, I believe. Nagios XI is commercial since
it *might* contain proprietary components, or any additional features.

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Re: [Ilugc] issue regarding network card detection

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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Noordeen Hussain  wrote:
> Hello frnds,
>                 I installed RHEL 5.0 in samsung R418 model laptop.

I too have the same laptop. Got it more than 6 months old.

> But the network card is not detected. The network card is Marvell Yukon 
> 88E8040
> PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller.

I've used Fedora 10 to 12, and  the default install was enough. It
detected almost
all the hardware and runs well. I don't think RHEL has any issues with
neither the
Atheros wireless card nor the Marvell card. I'm not sure, I installed
CentOS 5.4
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Re: [Ilugc] issue regarding network card detection

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Sorry for the poor formatting, some problems with the font rendering
and switching between rich formatting and plain text modes in gmail.
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Re: [Ilugc] mysql : not working in Terminal

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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:27 PM, selvamani sampath
 wrote:
> I installed mysql-admin, mysql-server, and mysql-client5.1. But I got the 
> error message while trying mysql in terminal. The error is :
>
> selvam...@selvamani-laptop:~$ mysql
> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'selvamani'@'localhost' (using 
> password: NO)
> selvam...@selvamani-laptop:~$
>
> Could any one help me to resolve this problem.

By default MySQL creates only the root account with no password. Use
"mysql -u root". Before that, create a root password using "mysqladmin
-u root password "

Then use "mysql -u root -p " to access the service. It is always
better to set a strong root password, even if it is not a production
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[Ilugc] Speech recognition on Linux

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Dear All,

Is there a speech recognition application available for Linux, similar
to Dragon Naturally Speaking? If no, does Naturally Speaking work on
wine?

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Re: [Ilugc] Speech recognition on Linux

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> festival is a TTS engine in linux. but am not sure what clients work
> with it or how they do.

Speech recognition is not TTS, it is the other way around. :) The
user's voice over a microphone is converted to text. It works like a
user dictating the application (word processor, etc) to type what
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Re: [Ilugc] query

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
 wrote:
> On Thursday 25 Mar 2010 1:03:19 pm Shrinivasan T wrote:
>> > IS anyone aware on erlang tools..please give information about that.
>>
>> I am aware of that by googling.
>> Why cant you?
>>
>
> how do you know he is not from China?

I don't think his query was in Mandarin.


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Re: [Ilugc] Mailing List Guidelines: Monthly reminder

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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:45 PM, sivakumar bharadhwaj  wrote:
> sir,
>
> can we simply say to stop top posting, while reading in say Gmail ;
>
> press "reply" for replying to a particular mail, and delete all of them in
> the "reply" and then write what do you want.
>
> is that right 

No, that won't do because:

1. If a mail has multiple queries, the reader needs to know what part
is the reply to which query. (Interleaved posting works best here.)

2. There might be situations when a subscriber wants to reply to the
mail which does not immediately precede his/her reply in the thread.

3. A subscriber might reply to more than one mail in the thread in a
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[Ilugc] Determining the size of a remote FTP directory

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Hi.

I started downloading the release directory from a cygwin mirror
today. I was curious to find the size of the directory, and used ftp
and df -sh to find the size. But the operation took very long and I
was not around when it completed. Is there any other easier way to
determine a remote directory size?

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Re: [Ilugc] how to ban specific keywords

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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Saravanan S  wrote:
> Hi all,
>          How do i ban specific keywords while typing in Linux?

What keywords do you exactly mean? Those in the browser, elsewhere in
the desktop environment or the terminal?

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Re: [Ilugc] Right click wallpaper change

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On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Harish R  wrote:
> Hello,
> In Windows 7 we can change the wallpaper by right click on the desktop and
> next wallpaper. This is a really nice feature which I want to implement in
> Linux. So I made a simple wallpaper changing script. Any ideas how I can
> integrate this to the right click of nautilus?
>

Try nautilus-actions. It is used to add commands to the right click menu.

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Re: [Ilugc] Can i unlock BSNL Huawei EC325 Modem to use 3G sim ?

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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:36 PM, balachandar  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>   I am using BSNL Huawei EC325 modem( Provided with NIC connection,White
> color dongle ).It has a slot to insert a sim card.

You can possibly use a CDMA SIM in the slot to access the internet
using other providers.

> But currently i am using
> no sim card to connect to internet.I referred that it is capable of 3G
> network.Can i use a 3G sim in this modem to get high-speed internet
> connection.

I don't think this modem supports UMTS (or 3G in plain English). The
product page at [1] caps the data rate at 153.6 kbps.


[1] http://www.huawei.com/mobileweb/en/products/view.do?id=147

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Re: [Ilugc] apache server

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On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:35 PM, swamynathan  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>  1. Is it possible to configure 2 different version of apache  in a single
>> server?
>>
>
> yes..
>
>
>>  2. what are all the possible solution for kernel panic error?
>>
>
> first just restart, if problem still persists check RAM then check hard
> disk[thats what i do for blue screen of death]
>

Since when does Linux have the "blue screen of death" feature? :-)

Rebooting, doing a memtest, checking if all components are OK, doing a
file system check (using a live CD) is my normal sequence of events in
case of a kernel panic. There are many reasons for kernel panic, such
a inability to mount root FS (a fsck should set things right in this
case);
"not syncing", so init being killed: memtest, followed by a hardware
test should be the course of action for this one.

I've seen only these two error messages commonly, but there are tools
to handle just about every error message. A replication, and solving
by trial and error on a test machine should help.

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Re: [Ilugc] Day Against DRM - May 4th

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On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM, pavithran  wrote:
> On 4 May 2010 11:23, JAGANADH G  wrote:
>
>>> *
>> Digital rights management*
>>
>> See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management
>
> Wrong ! It is Digital *Restrictions* Management
> http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/drm.html
>

Either way you look at it, one should not allow others to manage
his/her rights or restrict them. DRM is bad whatever way you look at
it: incompatibility, no sense of ownership, etc.

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 10.04 DVD

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2010/5/28 பத்மநாதன் :
> Dear ILUGCs,
>                     June month CHIP magazine having Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Live
> DVD
>

On a similar note, the June issue of Linux For You has ISO images of
Ubuntu 10.04, Kubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04 and Ultimate
Edition 2.6 [1] boot image based on 10.04 on a DVD; and Knoppix 6.2 on
a Live CD.

[1] http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-6/
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Re: [Ilugc] unsubscribe digest mode

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On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 20:13, prabhu gnana sundar
 wrote:
>
> help unsubscribe digest mode
>
>

Login to [1] and goto 'Unsubscribe  or edit options'. Enter your email
address and then the password in the next page.
In the next page [2] you can edit the option 'Set Digest Mode' (the
second one) and turn off Digest mode.

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Re: [Ilugc] Breaking blocked access in my office

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On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 14:05, Pothuraju, Naga Deepak
 wrote:
> Hi Team
>
> I am trying to overcome the blocked access in my office somehow as I think 
> the security restrictions have gone too far to carry on my daily activities. 
> Here is the scenario. I cannot access any email sites, IM sites, 
> entertainment sites from my office. The setup as far as I understood is that 
> all traffic from the local systems are being tunneled through a proxy server. 
> I tried using various methods to access websites & IM sites like anonymous 
> proxy servers & few other ways. But what I found was that no matter what, I 
> don't seem to be able to access any of the mail/IM sites. Just then I tried 
> Firefox add-on sameplace [xmpp] which was little complicated to set up as it 
> had few dependencies & the only thing that works for me now in gtalk. All the 
> other Firefox addons like gtalksidebar, meebo, etc failed. Certainly, they 
> aren’t blocking talk.google.com since any addon trying to connect to gtalk 
> connects to talk.google.com. Few doubts on my mind now are:
>
> * Is there a way to direct http traffic over xmpp?
> * How do I know if they are blocking it via ports?
> * I would like you guys to guess the rule or setup they have to monitor or 
> block traffic.
>
> For all those guys having the same problem, I am currently able to use 
> gmail/rediffmail/yahoomail via http://www.noblewebs.com/postbox/ & as 
> mentioned above, gtalk via sameplace firefox addon.
>

If you really want to access the blocked sites, then use your mobile
and access via GPRS or 3G during work breaks. Corporate networks may
contain sensitive data and you might be breaching the terms of your
contract. No company will tolerate such behaviour and it'll ruin your
career.

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Re: [Ilugc] Breaking blocked access in my office

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On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:20, Kenneth Gonsalves  wrote:
>
> there is no such thing as ethical hacking - which is a term invented by one of
> the biggest conmen in the Indian software scene for the sole purpose of
> promoting himself. There is hacking - which we do. And cracking which we frown
> upon.

+1 That pretty much sums up the thoughts of most us on the term
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Re: [Ilugc] hide a process

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 17:44, Arun Khan  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:51 PM, venkat raman  
> wrote:
>> dear friends,
>>               if i am running a process in rhel5, i dont want the process
>> should be monitor by top command.Is there any way,pls suggest me..
>
> Rewrite top to hide process based on the name of the binary - just a
> wild thought!
>

A way to do this is to create an alias named top, that uses text
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Re: [Ilugc] how to view all the commands executed in mysql prompt

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 16:55, Usha Murali  wrote:
> hi,
>
> can any one just tell how to view all the commands executed in mysql  prompt
>

You can accomplish this by:

$ cd ~
$ cat .mysql_history

This is similar to .bash_history file that is logged for each user.
You can direct the history to another log file by using:

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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab Syllabus

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2010/6/18 தங்கமணி அருண் :
>
> I am very happy to see this in Anna University Syllabus. Great initiation
>
> Future is Ours :)
>

Great initiative though I wish this had happened sometime back. If
only the staff are exposed to some real world projects through the
FDPs, this initiative will succeed. Else it'll be rendered useless as
all (the existing) labs follow the same restricted set of programs,
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Re: [Ilugc] Open Source Lab Syllabus

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On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 21:08, prakash srinivasan
 wrote:
>
> Minimum expertise skillset should be required to do all the above stuffs. But 
> still the content is confusing the target audience. So the final target will 
> not be like Linux application development or Linux kernel programming or what 
> else.
>

The 'target audience' here are budding Computer Scientists and
Engineers, who *must* know the innards of the various software
described in the core courses, such as Operating Systems, Compilers,
Databases, etc. In order to know that, you must know how to work in a
DBMS and how operating systems and compilers work. Knowledge of how a
software works cannot be attained for proprietary solutions, but free
and open source software makes it possible. The text for Operating
Systems has a few interesting case studies which no one studies (it is
out of the syllabus, not an important question are the reasons oft
supplied).

I had an interest in Operating Systems and read some code from Minix
as I knew Linux was too complex. (Code reading is quite an interesting
journey in itself.) I didn't complete it for want of knowledge about
assembly language.

The curriculum for the Compiler Design lab is pretty good for an
undergraduate course, but most colleges supply the programs to
students, as Yuvi had remarked. However the curriculum for the
operating systems lab was measly, with basic shell commands occupying
one fourth of the syllabus. The only programs we actually coded were
the scheduling algorithms and a single memory management program. This
lab seriously needs a revamp.

I prefer not to rant on, but the abysmal standards of the practical
courses in CSE don't give students the practice they ought to have
before becoming scientists and engineers.

But the sad state of affairs in our current system produces more
people who can do what one says, but can't think of their own. Of
course, this is a majority and doesn't include all CSE students. The
major problem with the current system is that the curriculum aims for
a lowest common denominator of skills, and doesn't allow for
diversification even in the last few semesters. Colleges elect the
electives, rather than the students.

> This kind of syllabus will create more panic for target audience about Linux 
> instead of promoting FOSS/GNU Linux.

I don't think the mission of this course is to promote FOSS. It is
rather to provide students with skills that they can use in real life
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