[Ilugc] Big-O Algorithm Complexity - Cheet sheets

2013-05-14 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Some might find this useful:

http://bigocheatsheet.com/

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[Ilugc] Livecode - Code management

2013-04-22 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Not sure if it's an IDE in the conventional sense. But, anyway

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1755283828/open-source-edition-of-livecode

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[Ilugc] Project Sputnik reviewed by Ars Technica

2013-04-20 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/04/it-just-works-dell-xps-13-developer-edition-linux-ultrabook-review/2/

Additional software included in project Sputnik:

http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3687.software-dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition.aspx

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[Ilugc] Google patents and open source software.

2013-03-29 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Check this out.

http://mashable.com/2013/03/28/google-opn-pledge/

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[Ilugc] 100 Linux Tutorial Campaign

2013-01-22 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
FYI:

https://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/185-jennifer-cloer/692115-please-join-us-the-100-linux-tutorial-campaign

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[Ilugc] OpenSource OBD Software

2013-01-16 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Here are some software that can help you do On-board diagnostics of
your vehicle. People who hack automobiles would find these useful.

http://www.geekmyride.org/wiki/index.php/Open_Source_OBD_software


P.S. Some projects are dead.

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[Ilugc] [gaming] Doom3 Source code

2013-01-16 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
ID software has this tradition of releasing the source code of old
software.  They make excellent 3D FPS games. Remember Quake? That's
theirs. Their source code of Doom3 is on GitHub (GPL) and it's a
valuable resource for anyone who wants to get their hands dirty with
game programming.

Here are some reviews of the code:

1. http://kotaku.com/5975610/the-exceptional-beauty-of-doom-3s-source-code
2. http://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/index.php

Source code: https://github.com/TTimo/doom3.gpl


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[Ilugc] Computational Complexity - Introduction

2012-12-19 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
I found an excellent introduction to the concept of Computational
Complexity Analysis. Anybody who is into algorithms or big O's would
find this intro useful.

http://discrete.gr/complexity/

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC][IRC][learn] IRC sessions

2012-08-08 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 7 August 2012 12:45, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote:

 The topics you listed are fine to start with.

Add Inkscape to that list.

 Fix a suitable time for you and start your sessions.
 Announce here about the time and topic.

Will do. How about this evening? I also like the idea of a shared
calendar that Tushar proposed.

 We will get more audience, if we continue doing such session regularly.

It's on IRC, so even if we have 3 interested people we can go ahead.
No of audience will increase eventually.

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux carrier growth and solaris

2012-08-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 6 August 2012 13:32, Murugan, Naresh Kumar
naresh.kumar.muru...@logica.com wrote:

 What actions be needed for carrier growth in linux ?

career !

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[Ilugc] [ILugC][IRC][learn] IRC sessions

2012-08-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Suggest topics that you want to learn about on IRC. I and several
other people will be able to spend time on IRC to discuss and share
stuff about Linux and Free Software.

Suggest topics and convenient time in IST. My convenient time is 8 PM to 11 PM .

Topics:

Security - Basics
Linux Concepts - Basics
Operating System - Basics
Programming - Basics (Python, C)
Cloud - Basics
Virtualization - Basics
Hardware Architecture - Basics

All sessions will be on freenode #ilugc-in

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux carrier growth and solaris

2012-08-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 6 August 2012 13:59, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Your mail also shows poor English and muddled thinking.

People make mistakes.


 Along with that you want to become a systems admin instead of a programmer.

 So it is all wrong.

Ridiculous. What's wrong with being a systems admin???

 Anyway Solaris is old commercial UNIX.

OpenSolaris.

 Today by UNIX people mean FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD.

Also AIX HPUIX etc

 Start with FreeBSD. After you find that you are comfortable with it
 then graduate to NetBSD.

 Then you can get to OpenBSD in the end.

 This process will take 3 years.

3 years ? How so??

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Re: [Ilugc] Linux carrier growth and solaris

2012-08-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 6 August 2012 14:12, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I dunno how to prove that UNIX is better than Linux.
 Lot of people simply don't understand it.
 And they cannot understand it.

You can. You just have to learn it.

 As a systems administrator if you set your sight very low at any rate
 you cannot understand much because your target itself is so low.

Oh, common. What is wrong with being a systems administrator and how
is it in anyway inferior to any other IT job?

 1) Linux has bad file systems, it is a fragmented world with many
 distros, even kernel is not standard. Many commercial people like Redhat has 
 spoilt the charm

 2) There are too many ways to do the same thing. No agreement, too many egos 
 to
  satisfy and the project is being pulled in too many directions as
 finding consensus when
  there are too many interests is hard. Even in things like epoll or
 inotify or udev or whatever

 3)Linux is not an OS. It uses the GNU toolchain, bash and other
 userland from GNU project
  and only the kernel is maintained. A distro puts together all these
 and does package management
  like RPM, DEB etc.

 4) Linux is immature and a kid compared to UNIX as it does not have
 ftp, ssh or make  or gcc or
  gdb in base install. The very spirit of UNIX and engineer mindset is
 lost in trying to make it
  everything for everybody

 5) I can go on and on and on ;)

 Now UNIX is what started it all when Dennis Ritchie and Kernighan
 wrote C to write UNIX.

 Those brains had some vision and values behind what an OS should be.

 Today OpenBSD is the only OS that upholds that spirit and resists
 rampant commercialism.

 The key difference between Linux and UNIX is that UNIX is one single thing.

 By FreeBSD people know what it is. It is one single thing. There are
 not 1000 distros in FreeBSD.

 It is a combination of entire userland , kernel and base system.

 All source code is maintained and audited in a single repository.

 You can get the source code of entire toolchain used to create an OS
 including X.

 In short it is the lack of commercial interests and proper team
 management, leadership
  and focus that creates a good quality OS suitable for engineering purposes.


You have left me thoroughly confused half of the above is false and
the rest of them are irrelevant. Sorry for being rude.

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Re: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalvas)

2012-08-03 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 3 August 2012 15:25, JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just now I got a message that our dear KG (Kenneth Gonsalvas) passed away.
 He was admitted in hospital due to Asthma attack and passed away today
 morning.

This is really bad news. Sadly, I never got to meet him.

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[Ilugc] [ILugC] Microsoft, the US government and StuxNet

2012-06-22 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
I really didn't know what title to give to this news:

http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/06/15/1614219/us-security-services-may-have-moles-within-microsoft-says-researcher


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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Microsoft, the US government and StuxNet

2012-06-22 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 22 June 2012 19:23, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote:
 I really didn't know what title to give to this news:


 Well, the first thing to add would be [OT] :D

mea culpa.

Apologies.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Microsoft, the US government and StuxNet

2012-06-22 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 22 June 2012 19:23, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote:
 I really didn't know what title to give to this news:

  DRDO
 should atleast modify GNU/Linux to suit their needs, I don't know
 whether BOSS is such an attempt.

As far as I know, BOSS's focus is on localization of GNU/Linux so that
it'd become suitable for the non-english speaking public. There is not
much of hardening that I know of on BOSS. But the government could use
some hardened Linux for handling critical data. We should speak to
CERT-IN and NIC and ask them about their security practices. And as
for websites, the situation is so rotten. Recently Anonymous took down
several Indian sites very easily.. This is not good. I myself have
reported more than two instances of site defacements by some
Pakistani Cyber Army or something similar.

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[Ilugc] [ILugC] XML processing

2012-06-20 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Which is better to process streaming XML? (e.g. RSS)  SAX or DOM? Why?
I read up a bit on SAX and here's what the Wikipedia article says;

Where the DOM operates on the document as a whole, SAX parsers
operate on each piece of the XML document sequentially.

Does it mean that DOM reads the whole document before processing it?
I'm trying to understand and make sense of a lot of tech jargon here..

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] XML processing

2012-06-20 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 20 June 2012 13:08, Natarajan V raja...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Yogesh Girikumar
 yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Which is better to process streaming XML? (e.g. RSS)  SAX or DOM? Why?
 Is your XML of unlimited size and keeps streaming in? Or is it a tiny
 XML such as those RSS in news websites?

 If it is continous and non-stop/ huge (of the order of 1 Mb), shy away from 
 DOM.

It is continuous stream that updates not-so-frequently.. But
eventually, in a over a span of several months, I expect the size
would reach MBs..

 Yes, DOM reads the entire XML, converts it into objects, and is very
 often implemented using a nested hash-map. It is quite heavy on
 memory. BUT, it is quite usefull in terms speed of development and the
 ability to enrich (edit) the XML. SAX on the otherhand is read only.

 DOM and SAX are not the only options. There is a StAX parser as well.

Initially I'll be doing a lot of reading than writing XML. So I guess
I'll stick with SAX. I don't know if there are any implementations for
Python.

 Also note, now a days, there are tools, at least in the Java  .NET
 world, where you supply a XML Schema, and the tool would create a
 corresponding object representation (Similar to a Struct in C). You
 can then import the generated code into your application and use a
 list [array] of the generated objects. It can read as well as create
 the XML. There won't be any code in your application to read the XMLs.
 These would be externalized into those XML libraries. Eg. JAXB.

Something like this would be very useful. Taking points from this,
I'll read up more.. Thank you !!

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Indian Court Order

2012-06-08 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 7 June 2012 18:31, Raja Subramanian rajasuper...@gmail.com wrote:

 My advise is to never use tor. It is used for lot of illegal activity and
 heavily monitored by law enforcement. You become guilty by association.

I don't agree.. what do you mean by a lot of illegal activity? The
thread so far has been about illegally accessing sites that are
blocked in India.. :) I don't see your point here.. And how exactly
does law enforcement agents monitor tor??

 Running tor in any enterprise network will set off several security
 triggers. You will have a lot of explaining to do.

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[Ilugc] [ILugC][JOB][Commercial] CSS Corp. needs a Network Engineer

2012-06-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

CSS Corp is looking for a Network Engineer. Below are the details.

Job Title: Network Engineer
Experience: 2-6 years
Location: Chennai
Primary Skills: Linux (Debian/Ubuntu/CentOS), Good command line
skills, Good understanding of the OSI Model, IP Tables
Secondary Skills:
* Configuration and troubleshooting of high-end networks
* Good interpersonal, communication, documentation, problem solving skills
* Team player.
* In depth knowledge of Network Security concepts,

Contact:

Mr. Niyaz Ahamed (niyaz.aha...@csscorp.com)

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[Ilugc] [ILugC] Ethical Hacking course

2012-05-21 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Just found this in the Anna University web site. I was surprised to
find that there is an elective paper titled Ethical Hacking 
Forensics and that the recommended book is by Ankit Fadia. I think
this says a lot about the quality of the course itself..

http://cs.annauniv.edu/academic/mecse2009.html


Ankit Fadia related links:

http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/
http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/fadia10.html

The term Ethical Hacking is IMO not a good term :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_definition_controversy

Note: I'm CC-ing Dr. K. S. Easwarakumar of CSE, Anna Univ.
(http://cs.annauniv.edu/easwara/)

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[Ilugc] [IlugC][PuduvaiLug][OT] GIMP Magazine - call for content

2012-04-24 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hiya,

FYI

http://blog.meetthegimp.org/call-for-content-gimp-magazine-is-here/

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Re: [Ilugc] How to autorun html file in Linux on CD insertion?

2012-04-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 17 April 2012 12:15, Dhastha dhasthagh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Autorun

 #!/bin/sh
 fullpath=$(pwd)
 exec firefox $fullpath/index.html


There seems to be a program for this: http://linux.die.net/man/1/autorun

Look at this as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/autorun

That said, autorun is kind of risky when the user does not know what is
being run automatically. And this feature can be used to run an attack
script. You get the drift.

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[Ilugc] [OT] Stickers and stuff

2012-04-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

If someone is looking for stickers, here are some, that you can print.

http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=150228

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Stickers and stuff

2012-04-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 18 April 2012 09:48, Tha.Suresh jemenisur...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  If someone is looking for stickers, here are some, that you can print.
 
  http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=150228
 


 Hi Yogesh,

 This link didn't open for me. Please send the correct url.


The site seems to be down.

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT] Stickers and stuff

2012-04-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 18 April 2012 10:16, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 The site seems to be down.


Alternate Link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dj31uni3wqsph95

CC - BY - NC - SA Licensed - Luis Medina.

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Re: [Ilugc] linuxpert baskar at kalaignar tv

2012-04-16 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 16 April 2012 11:37, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:


 presentation of news is a creative work - the news itself may not be.
 The fact that Baskar is a huge asset to open source in TN is news and
 may be published, but the interview as presented is a creative work.


Never thought of it at this angle. So, this should automatically imply that
ALL of the broadcast/telecast news (with the exception of maybe
government channels) are all restricted with copyright, right?? *The world
is a bad bad place*

On a side note, I'm also wondering what's so creative about presenting
news! :)

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Re: [Ilugc] linuxpert baskar at kalaignar tv

2012-04-16 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 16 April 2012 12:55, Arun Venkataswamy arun...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...So if the world does not give you free beer, it's a bad bad place is it?
 Do you know the cost of running a television studio? You expect them to
 spend the money and give you their content free of cost?


If it was a movie or a talk show  then it can be re run by the creators
with support from sponsors and advertisements. If it's news, more often
than not, it's one time, or atleast   a one day show, after which I don't
see how it can ever be used apart from reference purposes. So yes, I was
expecting the world to give me free beer.. Or at least the empty bottle.
I'm not asking for content that entertains, I am asking for news.


 Do you know the number of technical and non technical people involved in
 creating a new show?


No, I don't. Please enlighten.

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Re: [Ilugc] linuxpert baskar at kalaignar tv

2012-04-15 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 16 April 2012 10:01, 0 0...@0throot.com wrote:


 I think, this would be illegal copying and distribution. It is best if
 we can get it through baskar.


It'd be illegal to copy creative content from television. This is news.
Public domain!

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Re: [Ilugc] linuxpert baskar at kalaignar tv

2012-04-15 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 16 April 2012 10:46, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:

   It'd be illegal to copy creative content from television. This is
  news.
  Public domain!

 citation?


Looking for it. I remember reading about this somewhere. And the MIB site
not helping either ..

http://mib.nic.in

Will post once I get the article.
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Re: [Ilugc] linuxpert baskar at kalaignar tv

2012-04-15 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 16 April 2012 11:09, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:

   On 16 April 2012 10:46, kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com

 I do not think I will live that long!


I'm sure you will ! :)


 It is not a breach of copyright to
 quote extracts of a creative work for the purpose of review or citation,
 but it is certainly a breach to publish the whole of it or substantial
 portions of it. This has been settled law for probably over a 100 years.


True. But that depends on whether news is considered creative work by the
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[Ilugc] [ILugC] Event logging and Syslog

2012-04-14 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

I've been trying to look up event logging in Linux. But I don't seem to
find explanations to certain things.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5424

for e.g. What is a Facility? What are local0, local1 etc.

Can someone point me in the right direction? Maybe a link in plain English?

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Event logging and Syslog

2012-04-14 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 14 April 2012 11:35, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been trying to look up event logging in Linux. But I don't seem to
 find explanations to certain things. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5424


This gives me a somewhat better understanding, but still..

http://www.softpanorama.org/Logs/syslog.shtml

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Re: [Ilugc] Julia, I Love You

2012-04-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 2 April 2012 11:19, Girish Venkatachalam
girishvenkatacha...@gmail.comwrote:

 What crappy subject?

 I thought it was a virus. ;)


I was going to spam it ! :) Another programming language.. *sigh*

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Re: [Ilugc] RD

2012-03-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 26 March 2012 10:35, Kishore kish...@xerago.com wrote:

 Hi ,

 We are looking for a person with strong skills on open source
 technologies. He should be a one stop solution across all web
 technologies. Passion to explore and even do research on latest
 technologies. The following broad skiils would be needed.


Kindly refrain from posting stuff multiple times. And please tag it as
[OT][Commercial]. You can also post this in fossjobs.in

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C][OT] DNS cache poisoning

2012-03-18 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
On 12 March 2012 17:55, Balasubramaniam Natarajan bala150...@gmail.comwrote:

 More on that over here

 https://forms.fbi.gov/check-to-see-if-your-computer-is-using-rogue-DNS


Thanks. What I'm looking for is not a malware detector.  I was looking for
ways to find out if my ISP's DNS servers have been poisoned..
http://ketil.froyn.name/poison.html

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[Ilugc] [ILug-C][OT] DNS cache poisoning

2012-03-12 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

How do I find out if my ISPs DNS cache has been poisoned.. What are the
suspect symptoms. Are there any tools/methods to find if it has occurred?

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Zooming presentations on Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/8/3 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 I'm not sure if this has been discussed in the list before. I was
 wondering if there was a zooming presentation editor/creator for
 Linux. There are web based solutions like Prezi. And more recently, a
 plugin for MS Power Point was developed by some third party. But I
 don't see any for Linux (FLOSS). Anyone aware of any on going project
 that aims to do this?


 Apologies for bumping an old thread.

I was looking for a lightweight presentation maker and did a simple dpkg -l
| grep presentation on Ubuntu Presice Beta.

I was pleasantly surprised to find Sozi. It is an extension to the
popular Inkscape that can be used to create zooming presentations. The
presentations will be traditional SVGs and viewable in any modern web
browser.

http://sozi.baierouge.fr/wiki/en:welcome

I tried it and it works really well. On Ubuntu 12.04 beta, you can simply
use apt-get sozi to install it. For earlier versions, there is a PPA.

http://sozi.baierouge.fr/wiki/en:install

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Zooming presentations on Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 Gautam gautham5...@gmail.com

 Use Impress.js It works on any platform and is Open Source
 http://bartaz.github.com/impress.js/
 http://bartaz.github.com/impress.js/#/bored



Impressive! But what skills would I need to use it??

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Zooming presentations on Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com



 2012/2/28 Gautam gautham5...@gmail.com

 Use Impress.js It works on any platform and is Open Source
 http://bartaz.github.com/impress.js/
 http://bartaz.github.com/impress.js/#/bored



 Impressive! But what skills would I need to use it??


Quoting from : https://github.com/bartaz/impress.js/blob/master/index.html



Believe me, you need quite decent HTML and CSS skills to be able
to use impress.js effectively.
And what is even more important, you need to be a designer, too,
because there are no default
styles for impress.js presentations, there is no default or
automatic layout for them.


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[Ilugc] [ILug-C] Pinpoint - Presentation tool for hackers

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

I also stumbled upon this tool: https://live.gnome.org/Pinpoint

It's a simple presentation tool, where you edit your presentations using a
text editor. Seems like it would come in very handy for many of us.

You might be interested in the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po5La1OP2WI

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Website - enhancements

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
27 பிப்ரவரி, 2012 7:23 am அன்று, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha
Kumar) viky.nan...@gmail.com எழுதியது:

   5. facebook like link
 
  bad idea. Avoid social networking sites.

 +1
 Facebook tracks each and every activity of the user who visits any page
 with a facebook like button even if the user is not logged in to facebook.
 This is totally against user freedom. I think we shouldn't support that.


That's all right.. Anyone who wants to click the like button would have a
facebook account that he/she would be using everyday anyway.. So it is NOT
A BAD IDEA to have a facebook Like button.

In fact social networking is not a bad/evil thing IMO. It's a good way to
share stuff (which is what they were intended to be doing in the first
place). We need reach. So I support adding buttons for ANY popular social
networking that comes to mind: FB, G+, Reddit, Digg, etc.

And don't forget the Diaspora* button. :)

And regarding videos:

Promoting the use of free standards/formats is a good thing. In-fact it
MUST be done. But I don't think we should be RESTRICTING videos to ONLY
allow  OGV or free formats. If there is  a good video about some free
software which has been uploaded in a non-free format, embed them as well.
But if the video is being manually uploaded to the site, it would be a good
idea to convert to OGV or WEBM or any similar free-format files before
uploading. We needn't be so fussy about the formats when we are embedding
stuff from Youtube, Vimeo, etc. That would be naive.

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Re: [Ilugc] Need Volunteers for ILUGC Website - enhancements

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com



 27 பிப்ரவரி, 2012 7:23 am அன்று, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha
 Kumar) viky.nan...@gmail.com எழுதியது:

   5. facebook like link
 
  bad idea. Avoid social networking sites.

 +1
 Facebook tracks each and every activity of the user who visits any page
 with a facebook like button even if the user is not logged in to facebook.


Missed the point: FB like button seems to do this.. So it is better not to
use FB Like button.. Sorry about the earlier post.. I recommend the use of
NoScript firefox addon that blocks unwanted scripts including js and
FlashBlock that blocks flash stuff, swf and videos if anybody wants to
block such stuff.. Cookie Culler is another such addon that would block
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C] Pinpoint - Presentation tool for hackers

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 Harisankar P S mai...@hsps.in

 Does it have a graphical tool to make these presentation, or is it just
 like latex where we use codes and all..


No, it does not have any graphical tool to make presentations. It does not
seem to be as complex as LaTeX as it does not have any container markup
tags.  It appears to be so simple even for absolute beginners. People who
fear LaTeX beamer would love it.. Just check the site for a sample code and
you'll understand its simplicity.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C] Pinpoint - Presentation tool for hackers

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 prasannatsmkumar prasannatsmku...@gmail.com


 Is it available in ubuntu repo? at least not in 10.10 repo.


It is available in 12.04 beta which is what I run on my machine. This
project is quite new so I do not think it will be available by default on
older versions of Ubuntu. There might be a PPA somewhere or sometime soon.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Zooming presentations on Linux

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/28 Bharathi Subramanian bharathi.l...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Yogesh Girikumar
 yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:

  I'm not sure if this has been discussed in the list before. I was
  wondering if there was a zooming presentation editor/creator for
  Linux. There are web based solutions like Prezi. And more recently, a

 I have seen some of the Gnome Compiz Extension is having option to
 zoom the screen using a special key sequence. I hope, you can try that
 also to zoom the presentation.


That is not a straightforward solution. Besides that, I hate compiz. It's a
bloated crapware in my opinion. It is for people who want loads of eye
candy at the expense of performance.  What compiz does is to zoom the
entire screen and it won't be able to satisfy the needs that users may have
in mind for zooming presentations.

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Re: [Ilugc] libpanel-applet error

2012-02-27 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/2/22 Karthikeyan Venkatraman vgkarthick...@gmail.com

 Thanks shrini,

 I ran the syntax apt-get -f install and it successfully removes the
 python-gnomeapplet. and I successfully installed fslint. But when I try to
 install giplet it throws the same error again.


$ sudo dpkg --force-all -P  python-gnomeapplet
$ sudo aptitude purge ~c
$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade

Just to be safe
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Re: [Ilugc] [OT]hard disk recovery service

2012-01-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/17 Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com

 Greetings,

 On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Manokaran K manoka...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Can anyone here recover data from a HDD that's stopped spinning? Or do
 you
  know anyone? Any idea of how much it would cost?


There is a recovery service place at Vijayanagar Velachery. Opposite the
bus terminus. If you have valuable data, just take it there and see what
can be done.

Anecdote:  I've had the same problem quite long ago and all hopes were lost
of recovering anything from it. One of my friends jokingly tapped the
hard-disk against the wall saying work, you piece of crap! work!. It
worked ! :) As a last ditch effort I tried attaching the disk and it
started spinning. We could recover only (atleast) some data. But I'd
recommend against trying anything of that sort before you have given the
recovery service a shot..

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Re: [Ilugc] [OT]hard disk recovery service

2012-01-17 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/17 kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com

 another way to try is to seal it in a waterproof bag and freeze for 12
 hours. Then thaw and try - make absolutely sure nothing inside gets wet.
 (this is not a joke)


If you put it in the freezer, there will be condensation INSIDE the hard
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Re: [Ilugc] quality computer training institutes in chennai

2012-01-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/12 My JD sperm2...@gmail.com

 One of my colleague who is a non-computer science, non electronics student
 wants to get an insight on the computer programming world.


Even if there is such an institute, I'd recommend spending a month or so
trying to learn the basic stuff from the Internet. This would greatly
accelerate learning later on.

he wants to ensure that the lecturers are good.


Lectures are useless. hands-on is the only thing that helps.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-11 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
10 ஜனவரி, 2012 10:10 பிற்பகல் அன்று, விக்னேஷ் நந்த குமார் (Vignesh Nandha
Kumar) viky.nan...@gmail.com எழுதியது:


  Now we are in a sorry state that even a FOSS enthusiast in a LUG has
 forgotten the whole point of Free software and is advocating for using M$
 product on Linux.


LMAO :) Damn aliens :)

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-11 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/11 Parthan parth.technofr...@gmail.com

 To answer the OP, have you looked at CrossOver
 (http://www.codeweavers.com/)? I know of people who run licensed MS
 Office using CrossOver in CentOS and it works pretty well.


I am aware of that. And there is also 'playonlinux' which is more popular
when running MS Office. But they are not without glitches.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-11 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/11 Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com


 please don't take any opinion personal. everyone can have their own
 thoughts and can express it here.


Please let the thread continue if people have value to add :)  Nobody is
going to take things personal..

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-07 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/7 JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com:
 Prove it, sir !! You and me being Linux/FOSS enthusiasts does not mean

 I am using GNU/Linux  (fedora) for more than 7 years . Now I am working as
 a Senior Staff to a Multinational Company. Handles lots of document than
 code . Still I am using OpenOffice.org / LibreOffice and Lotus Symphony for
 read write and send documents clients across the glob. Still I don't have
 any issues with it. With this experience I dare put forward my argument .

That is exactly what I mean. You are using Linux for more than 7
years. You are used to it. Even I like LibreOffice. Try and look at
things from the perspective of a long time MS office user and you'll
understand what I mean. I myself use LibreOffice / Claws mail /
Thunderbird. I'm speaking about normal users, you know? Those who
don't care about FOSS and stuff. People who just want to get their
work done, and fast.

I would like to suggest some thing you may not like: try googling
something like, openoffice sucks or why I hate openoffice or
something similar. I know that most are mere nonsensical rants and
that many problems stated would have already been fixed in
LibreOffice. But then, see what they mean when they say usability /
ease - of -use / interface etc. I find LibreOffice pretty usable for
myself. Convincing people is a nightmare and I'm trying to do just
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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/5 Swapnil Bhartiya swapnil.bhart...@gmail.com:

 I don't see point of pushing
 M$ office on Linux.

I'll give you four 'points':

1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)
2. Excel Macros
3. Powerpoint
4. Outlook + MS Exchange

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.10 Repository ISOs for colleges / institutions

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 Pratap Chakravarthy prata...@gmail.com:

 I was excited because there are so many things we can do with such
 a large collection of repositories.

I believe zyxware.com also provides these :)

http://www.zyxware.com/requestcd

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 Balachandran Sivakumar benignb...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 1. Ease of use (read very visually appealing)

 It is more a case of having got used to MS Office. I find LibreOffice
 to be quite easy to use and visually appealing as well.

I find it appealing too.. But those who have been using ribbons and
stuff on MS will not find it as appealing or easy to use.. I've tried
MS word and I must say most tools are handy. They are easier to access
than they are in LibreOffice. But I love LibreOffice for several other
reasons impertinent to a MS user.

 2. Excel Macros
 3. Powerpoint

         You have far better options than that. Read the thread on
 Impress.js for an example. LaTeX beamer is another. And Lyx is a
 WYSIWYG that supports beamer

Bad learning curve. No one wants to unlearn what they've already
learnt and learn something new. I'm sure many have neither the time
nor the inclination to do that. Beamer is brilliant I agree. But do
you really expect people to learn it and use it? People want to use
the mouse to click and move stuff and get their work done. Beamer is
for pros, mathematicians and enthusiasts. Atleast IMO.

 4. Outlook + MS Exchange


           MS Exchange is not part of the office suite. And so even if
 Office is released for linux(We know that the story was fake), they
 need not release MS Exchange. And taking just Outlook into
 consideration, I find both Evolution and Thunderbird to be better.

Yes. I meant that most enterprises use Exchange server and Outlook
does a good job of integrating with it. I know Thunderbird has a
plugin to do that and Evolution can handle it by default. But still,
I'm pointing out why MS Office in Linux might be exciting to some
people and enterprises.

That said, I really do hope LibreOffice (and LaTeX and Thunderbird) is
improved and people start using it big time. I do, really ! :)

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com:

 So there is no point in your four points


Prove it, sir !! You and me being Linux/FOSS enthusiasts does not mean
everyone would find LibreOffice appealing/easy to use. Please see my
reply to Mr. Balachandran Sivakumar.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tamil Corpus

2012-01-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/6 JAGANADH G jagana...@gmail.com:
 @karthik
 You can use the Tamil Wikipedia dump as a corpus. Try it

IMHO building a language model out of Tamil Wikipedia is a bad idea..
It has lots of colloquial terms and modern/mixed words.. And sentences
are similar to everyday conversations.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILuG-C] Microsoft Office on Linux

2012-01-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2012/1/2 Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com:

 How is this piracy-proof?

It is not. But atleast more people will be willing to pay for it.

@Kenneth,

I find it surprising because, there are lots of people ( who would
otherwise switch to linux)  stuck with Windows just because they can't
run office on Linux. Mac is expensive. Linux alternatives are not good
enough for them due to their familiarity with MS software. Would this
not be a major blow to Microsoft OSes?

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Re: [Ilugc] Request for suggestion : laptop VS netbook

2011-12-28 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/12/28 Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com:

 I am looking for buying a laptop or netbook.


It depends on what you intend to run on it. If you are going to do a
lot of browsing and minimal office work, or if you want good
portability,  then get a netbook. If you are going to be running
resource intensive apps, if you are going to be watching movies,
playing games, if you need storage space, if you don't mind carrying
something around 3kgs or so in your back pack, go for a laptop.

My recommendations: Dell, Acer, Toshiba, Lenovo.
DO NOT buy: HP, Compaq, Samsung, HCL. (my experiences)
Sony is unnecessarily expensive. So I wouldn't buy it.

If you have reading problems or if your eye isn't healthy, go for a
laptop. Also ask for something that comes with free DOS or Linux by
default. Laptops heat up. Netbooks don't heat up as much. If there are
unusually high numbers of heat vents, you don't want to by that (my
observation). If you are buying dell, buy extended warranty (trust
me).

Buy VT enabled stuff that runs hardware assisted hypervisors better.
Make sure you don't buy a glorified tablet if you're buying a Netbook.

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Re: [Ilugc] Thunderbird 7 - mails lost when cleared the messages in the server

2011-12-26 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
 On Thunderbird desktop client(6.0 or 7.0), choose Tools-Account 
 Settings-service settings-Leave Message on server check box(can either be 
 ticked or not ticked according to your option) or leave blank. Until I delete 
 from server check box. That's all.


This does exactly what happened to the OP in the first place, if I'm
guessing right. This option is for those who wants messages to remain
on their server even after they delete it from within the thunderbird
mail client. But if you delete it from the server ( and if IMAP is the
method of message retrieval ) then the messages will be removed from
the server as well as the client during the next sync.

What the OP needs is to set his message retrieval method to POP3.
Evolution or Thunderbird (The choice of MUI) is irrelevant here.

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Re: [Ilugc] app cannot find sun java

2011-12-26 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/12/22 kenneth gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com:
 On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 19:03 +0530, Balachandran Sivakumar wrote:
  as mentioned in Fedora it is /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_30
  and /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_30/default/bin/

         Try setting JAVA_HOME to /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_30/default/ .
 That's what(the equivalent of it) I have here. Thanks

 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/java/jdk1.6.0_30

Are you certain that Sun Java components were not automatically
removed ?? Just to clarify.. This is supposed to happen when you run
package upgrades.

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=274158

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[Ilugc] [ILug-C][PuduvaiLug] Google chat on terminal

2011-11-23 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Here is one covered by Muktware.

quote
Two Indian brothers have written a program, called Whiz-Chat, which
allows anyone to chat with their Gmail friend directly from the
terminal. It is a very good alternative for those who are on a very
slow Internet connection or just don't want to get out of their
terminals./quote

http://www.muktware.com/articles/2998.

You may already know that the brothers mentioned there, Prasanna and
Sathianarayanan run the shows at  Puduvai LUG.

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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

2011-11-03 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 0 0...@0throot.com:

 It looks like, it is meant for running highly parallel applications. [...]

 By general-purpose computing, I meant something like running adhoc
 applications on the CPU. Moonshot is meant only to run certain types of
 applications.

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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

2011-11-02 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 0 0...@0throot.com:

This Moonshot thing is really badass:

89% power savings
94% space savings
63% cost savings
2,800 servers into a single HP Redstone Server Development Platform rack unit
Each Core consumes 1.5 w
Each server unit (card sized) consumes 5 wats

Don't believe me? check out yourself !!

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C] Game-over for Linux

2011-11-02 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 Arun Khan knu...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi,

 Some of you might me interested.

 Why feed the trollers?

No common, I was just trying to share what 'some people' think about
Linux.. No offense :)

BTW: Redbus is a organization that uses Linux. There are so many others.
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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

2011-11-02 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 0 0...@0throot.com:

 But it uses ARM and not meant for general purpose computing. IMO, This
 limits the platform greatly and HP is just trying something different.
 Although, It will be good see a platform challenging the dominance of
 x86 and ending Intel's monopoly.

I don't see how it limits platform. They are servers after all and are
supposed to run in data centers. I see so many distros (if not done
already) coming up with ARM builds. Ubuntu is one. With this level of
cost savings, and savings in other aspects, all cloud players are
going to be interested. BTW what do you mean by general purpose
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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

2011-11-02 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 0 0...@0throot.com:

  IMO, This limits the platform greatly and HP is just trying something 
 different.
 Although, It will be good see a platform challenging the dominance of
 x86 and ending Intel's monopoly.

http://arm.com/community/software-enablement/linux.php

I also urge you to participate in Ubuntu Developer Summit. They have
several sessions on Linaro !  Thought you might be interested..

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Re: [Ilugc] HP's New Low-Power Servers To Run Only Canonical And Red Hat Linux

2011-11-02 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/11/2 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com:
 2011/11/2 0 0...@0throot.com:

  IMO, This limits the platform greatly and HP is just trying something 
 different.
 Although, It will be good see a platform challenging the dominance of
 x86 and ending Intel's monopoly.

 http://arm.com/community/software-enablement/linux.php

 I also urge you to participate in Ubuntu Developer Summit. They have
 several sessions on Linaro !  Thought you might be interested..



Hey, there is a session going on right now on Grand sierra - F on ARM !!

http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-02/

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[Ilugc] [ILug-C] OpenStack beginner's guide - Diablo version released

2011-10-19 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi all,

The beginner's guide for OpenStack Diablo tested on Ubuntu (11.04)
Oneiric, has been released. Please check it out.

https://cssoss.wordpress.com/

The book is open: Suggestions, patches welcome.

https://launchpad.net/openstackbook/2.0


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[Ilugc] [ILug-C] Elcot marries Microsoft - A love story !!

2011-10-12 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Found this interesting. Abstract:

The Tamil Nadu government is adding costly MS software to laptops
meant for poor students. It could cost Rs 10,200 Crore and hamper
student growth

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ws101011MICROSOFT.asp

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILug-C] Elcot marries Microsoft - A love story !!

2011-10-12 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
 It's already a done deal. They are preloading BOSS linux with Windows.
 http://bosslinux.in/BOSS-In-TamilNadu

You sure about that?? :) :)

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Re: [Ilugc] myswl a cripleware?

2011-09-29 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/9/29 Christopher Sagayam christopher...@gmail.com:
  About the only choice now is for the FOSS community to make the same moves
 with MySQL as we made with OpenOffice.

 So why not do it ? and make MySQL opensource forever !

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MySQL#Forks

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Low battery power management problem in Laptop

2011-08-12 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
hi,

thanks for the tip. I'll try it.  however my problem is not battery drain.
it's the behaviour when the system hibernates..

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On 12 Aug 2011 09:26, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Yogesh yogeshg1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here are my power settings while on battery:

 * Never put computer to sleep
 * When battery is low, hibernate.
 * When lid is closed, suspend.

 Is this a Gnome problem or an Ubuntu problem? Any clues??

 While it may not be the direct solution to your problem, can you try
 and install powertop http://lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/ (should
 be available as an Ubuntu package) and check what are the tunables
 that seem to be causing battery drain. ?

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[Ilugc] [ILugC] OpenStack Beginner's Guide

2011-08-08 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi all,

CSS OSS has released the OpenStack Beginner's Guide. You can download
the PDF here: http://wp.me/pT1iY-od.

Feedback welcome. Please post feedback / comments at
http://cssoss.wordpress.com.  Pardon if this is OT.

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[Ilugc] [ILugC] Unit conversion utility for Linux

2011-08-03 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

Back in the days I was using Windows 98/XP, I used to use this utility
for unit conversion. I know I can run it on Wine.

But I am looking for an Open Source version. Anyone? I did some search
and didn't find any.


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Re: [Ilugc] [ILugC] Unit conversion utility for Linux

2011-08-03 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/8/3 Raman.P raam...@yahoo.co.in:


  Do you mean converting units like foot, metre etc., try units. man units 
  will throw more light on it. It is part of Unix/Linux for a long time.

Thank you Raman. It's amazing. I love it and will use it for myself.
But I am also looking for a GUI tool for my parents.

Something like this: http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/


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[Ilugc] [ILugC] Zooming presentations on Linux

2011-08-03 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi,

I'm not sure if this has been discussed in the list before. I was
wondering if there was a zooming presentation editor/creator for
Linux. There are web based solutions like Prezi. And more recently, a
plugin for MS Power Point was developed by some third party. But I
don't see any for Linux (FLOSS). Anyone aware of any on going project
that aims to do this?

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Re: [Ilugc] What is wrong in this script ?

2011-07-28 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/28 Mukesh Yadav mak@gmail.com:


 Use the bash interpreter:

  #!/bin/bash

 still getting

 bash: ./yuicompress.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or
 directory

Pl post output of

'which bash'

without quotes.

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Re: [Ilugc] What is wrong in this script ?

2011-07-28 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/28 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com:
 2011/7/28 Mukesh Yadav mak@gmail.com:


 still getting

 bash: ./yuicompress.sh: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or
 directory


Simply open the file with vim and you might see the extra windows eol character.

+1 on Guruprasad's comments

http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=810745

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[Ilugc] [ILUG-C] VirtalBox importing snapshots

2011-07-15 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
I had a laptop with a VM on VirtualBox. The VM had some 5 snapshots. I had
to format the laptop for some reason. So I just copied the VM directory. Now
I want to import it into my newly installed VirtualBox. I am able to attach
the harddisk to a new VM which gives me the last snapshot. Now I want to
import my snapshots into it. I have a .vbox file which seems to have
information about the snapshots in some XML format. Please help.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILUG-C] VirtalBox importing snapshots

2011-07-15 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/15 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com

 I had a laptop with a VM on VirtualBox. The VM had some 5 snapshots. I had
 to format the laptop for some reason. So I just copied the VM directory. Now
 I want to import it into my newly installed VirtualBox. I am able to attach
 the harddisk to a new VM which gives me the last snapshot. Now I want to
 import my snapshots into it. I have a .vbox file which seems to have
 information about the snapshots in some XML format. Please help.


Hi,

Got it. Did this in the terminal:

VBoxManage registervm /path/to/filename.vbox

This imported the VM complete with snapshots. :)

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Re: [Ilugc] How to make ILUGC list user friendly?

2011-07-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/13 Yuva raj uvar...@gmail.com

  What i felt long before was like if we ban Kenneth Gonslaves newbies wont
 be afraid. No Offense.. Just criticizing the way he is behaving
 in the mailing list.
 I think he wont take this personally. If he takes then he is not in FOSS
 world according to him


Yuva Raj,

People have their ways of expressing ideas. You may or may not like them.
What this thread is intended to do is to express the opinion of people like
me, that it is a *better* thing to have a bit more tolerance and patience
when dealing with newcomers to the list. You are making things personal
here, which is unhealthy and very wrong. Kindly refrain.

@All,

We need to have some additions that goes into the mailing list guidelines.

1. The Objective of this list. ( Policies with respect to free software, use
of linux, evangelism, etc.)
2. Are we promoting free software aggressively ( or are we here to provide /
share technical assistance to Linux users?)
3. What is our policy on proprietary software? Do we refuse to help people
who want to use Linux alongside Windows?
4. More..

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Re: [Ilugc] How to make ILUGC list user friendly?

2011-07-12 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/12 Balajee - Gmail balajeesesha...@gmail.com


 When I drive my car on the road I should follow the rules, otherwise we
 know what will happen. The same way when a
 member like to participate in the list let him see the previous mails,
 study
 list rules and understand how to ask questions.


Most new comers have zero idea about seeking support from the Internet. We
need to be polite to them. We should educate them. If you think we have no
business educating them then we should stay silent instead of rebuking them
the very first time. Repeated mistakes can be taken seriously. We should
first welcome them and then maybe point them to list rules.

Recently someone asking if he can use Ubuntu alongside Windows Server was
rebuked for no reason. For all we know, he might have had some good reason
for that. I was working part time at an Internet cafe and I have tried to
switch the whole cafe to Ubuntu. The proprietor told be Do whatever you
want, just don't touch the server! He had his own concerns. Everyone has to
start somewhere. I would certainly expect the senior Linux experts /
Veterans to be a bit more kind and forgiving.

And this thread is not about decline in the number of posts. It's about new
comers to the list and how they (and their mistakes) are treated.

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Re: [Ilugc] Internet cafe software to run on Ubuntu client and Windows server

2011-07-10 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/9 Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com

 On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 12:48 +0530, anu nivas wrote:
  Can any of you suggest an Internet cafe software to run on Ubuntu
  client and
  Windows server?

 no


LOL ! :)

To the OP:

Why Windows Server? Why not a Linux Server ? Explain your requirements
please..

Read up here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc/70013

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILUG-C][OT] On matters of national security and open source

2011-07-06 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/6 Vamsee Kanakala vkanak...@gmail.com



 So are you meeting them to convey your concern? At least track down
 who's responsible and start a conversation? :)


That is where I thought the open letter would help !  Track them down?? :) I
would if I could or get a chance !

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[Ilugc] [ILUG-C][OT] On matters of national security and open source

2011-07-05 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
Hi all,

How would you all like to contribute to an open letter asking the Union Home
Ministry, The National informatics agency, and the like to start using open
source instead of proprietary software? It's a shame that most sites
including those of National investigation agency, National security guards (
both were hacked very recently ), etc still use IIS. Seriously, IIS? And
heaven knows why there was data in those servers that could be siphoned
off. So I was thinking writing an open letter to those douc***ags in plain
english on what this is all about and how and why they should rethink about
using proprietary software that rely on security by obscurity.

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Re: [Ilugc] [ILUG-C][OT] On matters of national security and open source

2011-07-05 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/6 Vamsee Kanakala vkanak...@gmail.com

 On Wednesday 06 July 2011 07:22 AM, Yogesh Girikumar wrote:
  So I was thinking writing an open letter to those douc***ags in plain
  english on what this is all about and how and why they should rethink
 about
  using proprietary software that rely on security by obscurity.

 Writing an open letter is all fine, but you have to think from their
 shoes. These companies are led by bureaucrats who haven't been trained
 in god knows how long and they simply don't know any better in most
 cases. Most junior-level employees who can effect changes don't have any
 power to do so or the will to fight the system.

 If you go and meet these guys, the response will most likely be, thanks
 for bringing it to our attention. So who can set this up and give us
 SLAs, and where do we sign?. So unless you're approaching them with a
 reasonably complete solution that addresses this problem, you can mostly
 expect as much animosity as you're showing them in return.

 So instead of writing them an accusatory open letter that is only likely
 to get them even more defensive, try meeting any of them and ask, this
 is what I do for a living, how can I help?. That would help you
 understand the challenges they're dealing with, and help you propose a
 more meaningful solution.


Vamsee,

I can't agree more with your point. There are people the government can turn
to for help in these matters. I can think of CDAC and NRCFOSS. I'm sure that
Microsoft did nothing more than to just sell them IIS. What about the guy(s)
who designed and developed the site. If it's merely a website that people
visit to learn more about the agencies, then there's not much to worry. But
if there's sensitive data that's at risk of being siphoned off then it's a
different story all together.

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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - July 2011 meet

2011-07-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/1 0 0...@0throot.com

 On 06/29/2011 11:30 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote:
  We have our next meet on July 9, 2011.
 
  Please volunteer for talks.
 


 I am currently looking for talks on android (a basic introduction) and
 bit coin ( http://www.bitcoin.org/ ). If someone could share their
 knowledge on the same, It will be very helpful.


I can do the bitcoin part. But expect it to be boring and very confusing!! I
can give also a very basic primer of android, the SDK, etc. Nothing hardcore
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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - July 2011 meet

2011-07-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/1 Yogesh Girikumar yogeshg1...@gmail.com


 I can do the bitcoin part. But expect it to be boring and very confusing!!
 I can give also a very basic primer of android, the SDK, etc. Nothing
 hardcore though.


Will try to make the material  as  easy to understand as possible.

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Re: [Ilugc] Guidance for open source development

2011-07-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/30 Babu Poomalai pbab...@gmail.com

 Hi,

  I wish to involve myself in open source development. I am more
 comfortable in C++ and Java. As I'm a novice to this world, i don't where
 to
 start my contribution. Please provide me a guidance.I am interested to do
 any projects of the above platform.


Attempt to explain in a nutshell:

There are lots of projects hosted in so called repositories that hold
various versions of source code. You use a version control system to check
the code out (download) and then after making modifications, you push it
back into the repository (check-in).

Contributions can be anything. Some are:

* Bug reports / fixes (You'll need to look into bug tracker for the
project !
* Patches
* Documentation (of the final product as well as the internals like any
APIs, etc.) and translations

Search for terms you don't understand. HTH.

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Re: [Ilugc] Call for speakers - July 2011 meet

2011-07-01 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/7/1 0 0...@0throot.com


 Thats great! I am looking forward to your talk.


It'd be great if you can trim your posts.

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Re: [Ilugc] Next meeting ?

2011-06-28 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/29 0 0...@0throot.com

 Hi all,

 I am new to the list and I was wondering when you guys are meeting up
 next. I checked the site but the new event seems to point to the one
 that happened on Jul'2010.


The second Saturday of every month.

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Re: [Ilugc] Free laptops from TN Govt - The students Nature

2011-06-28 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/24 SRIKANTH NS srikanth...@gmail.com



 I cannot but agree with this with all my heart. Lack of support is the
 one critical element which is stymying the spres of LInux.


It depends on what you mean by support. A computer (Linux) literate
neighbour or a support license. If it's the latter, I don't think the govt.
is buying support for Windows for the users even now. ( There's nothing to
support there anyway!) . If it's the former, then you've got a point. Mass
awareness campaign about the forums, IRC, mailing lists, .. will be
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Re: [Ilugc] Clarification on OS development.

2011-06-21 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/20 Prasanna Venkadesh prasmai...@gmail.com


 
  I just wanted to know is there any Linux development is going on for
  building a system that supports both RPM and DEB packages to be used in
 a
  single Distribution without use of other tools like alien.
 
 
  That is not possible as the underlying design for RH based and Debian
 based
  distros are totally different. You can always compile stuff from the
 source!


 Why cant if the underlying design be created newly that supports both RH
 and
 Debian Based Distros?


Why reinvent something that's already there? Creation of some totally new
Linux architecture is a mammoth task and IMO a totally unnecessary one.
People choose distros that best suit their needs. A package manager is just
a piece in the OS architecture. As long as you have something that gives you
a quick and easy way of installing packages, you should be fine. If not, you
always have more ( powerful ) ways of doing that, like compiling from source
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Re: [Ilugc] How do I make apt-get ignore some dependencies?

2011-06-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/13 Ganesh Kumar bugcy...@gmail.com

 Hi Guys,

 How do I make apt-get ignore some dependencies?. In Debian based system,

 How do install without dependencies using
 apt-get
 dpkg


I doubt if you can do that with apt-get. You can however use download only
option which will download the packages. You can install them manually
thereafter. For dpkg, there is an --ignore-depends=pkg1,... option. But I
don't think it does what you want.

What are you trying to achieve?

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Re: [Ilugc] Ubuntu 11.04 64bit Issues

2011-06-13 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/12 Bose ifrb...@gmail.com

 Hi all,
 I have purchased Lenovo Ideapad Y560. It came with Win7 but i installed
 11.04 on top of it. Whenever i boot my laptop in battery, Ubuntu is not
 booting up only windows boots up. After the choice chosen only blank screen
 comes.


Could be a power management issue? Try installing with acpi on.


 I am not able to install abode flash player also, if i give apt get command
 i am getting error. Can any one help me out in these issues?


64 bit Linux generally has problems with  flash. Try the 32 bit version.

apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
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Re: [Ilugc] Reg:which book is best for to learn Linux Cluster

2011-06-10 Thread Yogesh Girikumar
2011/6/8 Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com

 Greetings,


  You can use following links to update knowledge on linux redhat cluster.
  http://www.centos.org/docs/5/pdf/Cluster_Administration.pdf
 
 
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/4/html/Cluster_Administration/ch-overview-CA.html
 
 

 Please note above is about High availability (HA) cluster.

 Never confuse it it with High Performance Cluster (HPC). There is one
 in IITM, I suspect


If it's high availability that the OP wants:

DRBD + HeartBeat : http://www.drbd.org/home/what-is-drbd/

Linux HA: http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/Main_Page

If the OP just wants to know about Clustering:

Please google Linux Clustering.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_*cluster

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