[Ilugc] [OT]Walk-A-Thon Supporting Net Neutrality on April 23rd in Chennai

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all ,

Much has been spoken and done online about Net Neutrality .  Let us now
take our efforts offline.

Many internet users are not noticing the Net Neutrality issue either
because they don't understand what Net Neutrality is or they don't think
it's a serious problem for the average internet user.

So, FSFTN has decided  to conduct a Public Awareness Campaign & to take the
message of Net Neutrality to the streets. The event will be held on April
23 (a day before the deadline that TRAI had given us).

Meeting fellow Internet citizens & like-minded people who support Net
Neutrality will be an awesome experience for all of us.

Posters & pamphlets will be issued to the public. Join us in protecting the
Internet.

Netizens of Chennai, Unite!

The RSVP https://www.facebook.com/events/1574458709469856/
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[Ilugc] Free Software activities in 2014

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Dear all ,

Nearly 40 events have been conducted in the year 2014 by FSFTN across
various genere . Hope 2015 is better than 2014 and our march towards free
knowledge and free society continues .

http://fsftn.org/event-reports-of-2014/

Regards,
Sibi
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[Ilugc] Difference between sudo apt-get install and installing from source

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hello all ,

What is the difference between sudo apt-get install tesseract and
installing from source  .
Let me explain the context so that it could give a clear picture .

I wanted to work with Tesseract and build better Training Data for Tamil
language as well as see if any modifications could be done to engine also
to make it more responsive for Tamil .
1.Hence installed Tesseract via sudo apt-get install tesseract .
2.I could see that the files and folders relating to tessdata were created
in /usr/share/tesseract-ocr
3.And installed all the necessary packages as mentioned here
https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/Compiling
4.Now the command tesseract is working fine .
5.I wanted to see the debugging of the system , hence posted a question
here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tesseract-ocr/BxZvoUlxjOc
6.I was asked to perform the make file operations in Java folder .
7.Since within the /usr/share I could not find java folder , I created a
folder and tried to do the make .But it did not work out .
8.As per zdenop reply in the above  and Arun Pandian's reply to an earlier
mail , I am trying to configure it from the source and hence created a
clone using
git clone https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/
9.Here I could find the /java folder .
10.Trying to find answer via search engine leads me here
http://askubuntu.com/questions/335684/installation-difference-between-from-source-and-apt-get
But I am not satisfied with the answer

My questions are
1.What is the difference between package installation and installing from
source ?
2.Where can I find the files if I am doing a package installation ?
3.Am I doing the entire process wrong ?

-Sibi
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[Ilugc] Help in Java - Related to Tesseract OCR project

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all,

I am currently working with Tesseract OCR .

Have finished configuring the engine . Have a doubt at a point .

Its given https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/ViewerDebugging as

//

Copy piccolo2d-core-3.0.jar

piccolo2d-extras-3.0.jar to tesseract/java.

cd java

make ScrollView.jar

//

I have finished till going into the java directory . How do i make the
ScrollView.jar file from the 2 given .jar files

Is there anything I am missing to read . ?


-Sibi
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Re: [Ilugc] Event Report- Software Freedom Day at Trichy Sept 17 2014.

[sibi kanagaraj]

2014-09-18 23:15 GMT+05:30 L. Guruprasad :

> Hi Pon Kandasamy,
>
> On Thursday 18 September 2014 08:28 PM, pon kandaSamy wrote:
> > அன்பரே  திருச்சி விழாவில் கலந்து கொண்டு பயனடைந்தேன்.நன்றி.முதல்  நாள்
> > பயிற்சி எடுத்த மாணவர்கள்மறுநாள்  பயிற்சி கொடுத்து அசத்திவிட்டார்கள்.
> > பாராட்டுகள்.தொடரட்டும் சேவை வாழ்த்துகள்.பயன்படுத்திக் கொள்ள linux mint
> > நகல் எடுத்து கொடுத்த நண்பருக்கு நன்றி.
>

//
English Translation :

Dear friend , I got benefited from  the Trichy event . Thanks you . The
students who took training in the first day were able to take sessions the
next day and it was amazing . Congrats . The service must continue . I
would like to thank the friend , who helped us by sharing a Linux mint
Distro .

//


>
> This is not a Tamil mailing list and there are a lot of people on this
> list who do not know Tamil. So please avoid send emails in Tamil. If you
> still want to do that, please provide translation for it so that all the
> members can understand the content of your email.
>
> If you want to converse fully in Tamil, there is a Tamil ILUGC mailing
> list if I remember right. Please join that list and do so there.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Guruprasad
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Visiting Chennai

[sibi kanagaraj]

Please find the reply inline .

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 3:53 AM, கணேஷ் குமார் 
wrote:

> Dear *Founder - Hamar
>
> *Do you think cultural hegemony will give you some solution for
> all culturally diverse people?*
> what will happen to the rest of the diverse culture?
> what is the ruling class culture here?
>
>
On a lighter vein : Not sure even if Gramsci would have gone so deep into
Cultural Hegemony :)


> ---
> you said
> - "hamara" Linux is the name.
> - developed in perspective of language.
> - to create stem cultural hegemony
> - without english.
>

May be he could/should  have worded it differently like -"native language/
mother tongue"


>
> *when you think of  *"new distribution tailored to the Indian market from
> the
> perspective of language" *what came in you mind* is '*HAMARA*'.
> when you "put हिंदी [Beta]
> <
> http://www.hamaralinux.org/hamara?p_p_id=82&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_82_struts_action=%2Flanguage%2Fview&_82_redirect=%2Fhamara&_82_languageId=hi_IN
> >
> and
> leave others".
> when you said "without english" (*not with your native language *).
>

Please feel free to raise a bug . See it as a bug and not as a venomous
spider .


>
> *how it will become linux focusing indian market and language perspective*?
> perhaps you are right  since you didn't mention in which way the
> perspective will be.
> Don't take it as discouraging  but
>
> Thank you.
>
>
The core of the initial mail writer's argument was a space for him to talk
with people .Sadly ,  no one was even ready to discuss on it .
Lets not pounce on some one who comes with a budding idea and tear it
apart  . At the best , arrange a place for meeting . Allow him to address
people and give out his views . If anybody has issues , please raise it
there . Generally , there are 2 kinds of issues - People with hidden agenda
and people who make genuine mistakes . Lets not confuse one for the other .

P.S : I have never met Vikas Tara nor do I have any relation with Hamara
Linux .


> --
> Heartly!
> K.GANESH KUMAR,
> TAMILNADU,
> INDIA..
>
>
-Sibi
Homo Sapien

*(¨`•.•´¨)* Always
> *`•.¸(¨`•.•´¨) Keep*
> *(¨`•.•´¨)¸.•´* *Smiling!*
> *`•.¸.•´*   *:)*

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Re: [Ilugc] [llugc] Photoshop

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hello Kavinraj ,

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:48 PM, kavin raj  wrote:

> I am new to ubuntu, where my version is 14.04 (32bit).



Its not possible to provide you torrent link .



> I need photoshop
> software[torrent link] or best alternative for photoshop.
>


But can provide Alternatives
1.gimp
2.Inkscape
3.Dark Table .


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[Ilugc] லிப்ரெஓபிஸ் 4.3 - வெளியீட்டு நிகழ்வு / Libre office 4.3 Release Party

[sibi kanagaraj]

English version present below .

அன்புடையீர்,
உலகின் தலைசிறந்த அலுவலகத் தொகுதிகளில் ஒன்றான லிப்ரெஓபிஸ் 4.3 , மற்றும் அதன்
தமிழ்ப் பதிப்பு இம்மாதம் 3 ஆம் தேடி வெளியிடப்பட்டது . அதன் வெளியீடு ஒட்டி
தமிழகத்தில் ஏற்பாடு செய்யப்பட்டுள்ள நிகழ்வில் பங்கெடுத்து நிகழ்வைச்
சிறப்பிக்குமாறு தங்களைத் தாழ்மையுடன் கேட்டுக்கொள்கிறோம்.

*தேதி : *14 ஆகஸ்ட் 2014
*நேரம் :* மாலை 4:30 மணி முதல் 6.30 மனி வரை
*இடம் : *தமிழ் இணையக் கல்விக்கழகம் ,கோட்டூர்புரம் ,சென்னை .
*ஏற்பாடு :* தமிழா ! குழு , கட்டற்ற மென்பொருள் அறக்கட்டளை, தமிழ்நாடு(FSFTN)

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Dear all ,

Libre office 4.3 and its localised version were released on August 3rd. To
celebrate this, we are organising a release party. We invite all of you to
join us in the event

*Date: *14 August 2014
*Time :* Evening 4.30 pm to 6.30 pm
*Venue : *Tamil Virtual Academy , Kotturpuram , Chennai
*Organisers:* ThamiZha ! , Free Software Foundation TamilNadu(FSFTN)

Please register so that we can know the number of participants and arrange
accordingly .

Register at : http://fsftn.org/libre-office-4-3-release-party/

Executive Committee ,

FSFTN
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[Ilugc] A better video tutorial for Latex

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all,

Upon doing my basic search for a Latex tutorial , I stumble upon loads of
content online . Some of them are spoken tutorial , you tube links . But ,
I would like to know from member's personal experience on better video
tutorial for Latex .

-Sibi
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Re: [Ilugc] [puduvailug] Event Report - Documentary Screening of "The Internet's Own Boy - The Story of Aaron Swartz"

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi ,

>> >From whom did you get permission to screen the movie?
> >>
>

The movie is available under CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 . The license allows one to

   - *Share* — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format

And there was no monetary benefit collected out of this . And it was a free
(Free as in Free Coffee) event for participants , which

ideally satisfies the *NonCommercial * aspect of the license .

>
> >
> > Would it not be ironic to ask for 'permission' to screen a movie on
> > Aaron Swartz?
>
> I find it interesting that 'ironic' is being used more frequently [1]
> Shakthi has a valid question -
> <https://archive.org/details/TheInternetsOwnBoyTheStoryOfAaronSwartz>
> does not explicitly mention anything about screening for a general
> audience. The movie itself is available for download under
> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/> which has its own
> set of "things you can do".
>


And its further mentioned in the license  that "

   - *No additional restrictions* — You may not apply legal terms or
technological
   measures <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/#> that
   legally restrict others from doing anything the license permits."

*Note :* If at all there was a violation , its a genuine case that we might
have misunderstood the clauses of the license . In that case , please let
us know so that we can rectify them .

-Sibi


>
> [1] <
> http://lists.smc.org.in/pipermail/discuss-smc.org.in/2014-July/055982.html
> >
>
>
> --
> sankarshan mukhopadhyay
> <https://about.me/sankarshan.mukhopadhyay>
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[Ilugc] Event Report : Orientation programme for UG Tamil Lit. students at Loyola College

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear All,

On July 2, 2014, FSFTN conducted an orientation programme for 1st year UG
Tamil Literature students at Loyola College, Chennai. Around 60 students
participated in the event. The students were given a presentation on the
following topics:

1.Tamil Computing
2.Tamil Wikipedia
3.Free Software and Freedom

The reception was awesome as the students were very enthusiastic and
receptive to the ideas. Many of them were also eager to work in this area.
FSFTN hopes to carry on the work in the institution.

FSFTN would like to thank the students and staff, especially Prof. Dr.
S.Amalraj  and Anthony Selvanathan.S, HoD, Tamil department, for their
cooperation and looks forward to working with Tamil department in various
colleges .


Photos are available here

.

Executive Committee,
FSFTN
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Re: [Ilugc] Documentary Screening: The Internet’s Own Boy – The Story Of Aaron Swartz

[sibi kanagaraj]

Sorry , forgot to mention that its a Free ( Free as in Free Coffee ) event
.

The registration is for logistic purpose only .




On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 8:45 PM, sibi kanagaraj  wrote:

> Dear all ,
>
> Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu in association with ThoughtWorks is
> screening the documentary *“The Internet’s Own Boy
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internet%27s_Own_Boy:_The_Story_of_Aaron_Swartz>
> – The Story of Aaron Swartz <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz>”*
> at ThoughtWorks Office, Taramani on* July 19, Saturday, between 3 p.m.
> and 6:30 p.m.*.
>
> The following is the schedule:
> 1. Introduction to the Movie
> 2. Movie Screening
> 3. Discussion.
>
> Timing:
> 3 p.m. – 6:30 p.m.
> Saturday, July 19th.
>
> The address is:
> Thoughtworks Office,
> Ascendas International Tech Park,
> Zenith – 9th Floor, Tharamani.
>
> Please register here
> <http://fsftn.org/documentary-screening-the-internets-own-boy-the-story-of-aaron-swartz/>
> so that we can have an estimate of number of participants .
>
> Executive Committee,
>
> FSFTN
>
>
>
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[Ilugc] Documentary Screening: The Internet’s Own Boy – The Story Of Aaron Swartz

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all ,

Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu in association with ThoughtWorks is
screening the documentary *“The Internet’s Own Boy

– The Story of Aaron Swartz ”*
at ThoughtWorks Office, Taramani on* July 19, Saturday, between 3 p.m. and
6:30 p.m.*.

The following is the schedule:
1. Introduction to the Movie
2. Movie Screening
3. Discussion.

Timing:
3 p.m. – 6:30 p.m.
Saturday, July 19th.

The address is:
Thoughtworks Office,
Ascendas International Tech Park,
Zenith – 9th Floor, Tharamani.

Please register here

so that we can have an estimate of number of participants .

Executive Committee,

FSFTN
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[Ilugc] Report on FSFTN Summer Camp 2014

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all,

Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu conducted 5-day long Summer Camp in the
green and beautiful campus of Indian Institute of Technology Madras on
various Free Software technologies and the philosophy behind Free Software.

The workshop was attended by 117 participants from not less than 43
educational institutions. The Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu has
always encouraged women participation in technology and has also taken
initiatives to ensure the  same. The Summer Camp’14 saw over half the
participants being women. The same holds good with the volunteers at the
workshop. This is a remarkable leap from the previous year and sets a good
benchmark for the next year.

Detailed report , blogs  of participants and volunteers are present here .

http://fsftn.org/summer-camp-2014/

Executive Committee,

Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu
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[Ilugc] Fwd: [GMG-Devel] GMG Bug Triage Day (Thu July 03, 2014 00:00)

[sibi kanagaraj]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Will 'meeting reminder' Kahn-Greene 
Date: Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM
Subject: [GMG-Devel] GMG Bug Triage Day (Thu July 03, 2014 00:00)
To: MediaGoblin Devel 


GNU MediaGoblin Bug Triage Day

Where: IRC #mediagoblin on irc.freenode.net
When: All day long

Help us triage bugs! Find bugs that are old, forgotten, unverified and in
other states of not-quite-doneness. Help them on their way by giving them a
friendly nudge!

Issue tracker: http://issues.mediagoblin.org/

Wiki page: http://wiki.mediagoblin.org/BugTriageDay

Join us as we scour the GNU MediaGoblin issue tracker for bugs that need
some help.

Bug Triage Day is a bi-weekly meeting every other Thursday.
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[Ilugc] Request for suggestions for a presentation on free software

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all,

Shortly (In 2 days),I would be giving a presentation on free software,
culture , tools and technologies .

I would request for input from community members on some ««for sure don't
miss»» stuffs Though I would cover  4 freedoms , licences , equivalents , I
would like to give some wow features in free software technologies . Apart
from philosophical part , would also like to give «« ways to contribute to
community »» and building their free software oriented profile . And also
how free software can bring about socially targeted solutions .

If you could help me in making the presentation , it would be great. I
would upload the document in most liberal gpl documentation licence .

-Sibi
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[Ilugc] FSFTN Industrial Training Summer Workshop 2014 at IIT-M

[sibi kanagaraj]

*Hi all *,

Have posted this before in the mailing list . But , there are changes in
the programme schedule and syllabus contents . So , posting it again .

Free Software Foundation Tamil Nadu *(FSFTN)* in Collaboration with *IIT-M
GLUG* is organizing a *Summer Workshop 2014 at IIT Madras* from* June 15th
- 19th(5 days)*.
The Workshop is entirely hands-on, very industry - oriented and would be
conducted by resource persons from IT industry as well as by academicians.

The workshop would be an eye opener for students to the Free Software
technologies that are used in the current IT industry.

*Topics that would be covered include: *

Introduction to GNU/Linux, Ruby on Rails, Cloud and Internet of Things,
Android  , Open Hardware and Sneak Peaks of GIT,Networking Basics,
Encryption/Decryption and Blender(Computer Graphics Tool).



*Details of the Workshop:*
Date: June 15 - June 19 (5 days)
Venue: IIT Madras
Registration Fee: 3000
Details  at:  http://fsftn.org/fsftn-summer-workshop-iit-madras-2014/
Doubts / Queries to : sc2...@gmail.com
Contact No: 044-43504670
<https://www.facebook.com/fsftn>
*Certificate, Lunch for all 5 days and Goodies will be provided to all the
participants*.

-Sibi
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[Ilugc] Fwd: FSFTN Summer Camp - 2014 @ IIT Madras

[sibi kanagaraj]

-- Forwarded message --
From: sibi kanagaraj 
Date: Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:09 PM
Subject: Fwd: FSFTN Summer Camp - 2014 @ IIT Madras
To: "mailingl...@fsftn.org" 


-- Forwarded message ------
From: sibi kanagaraj 
Date: Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:03 PM
Subject: FSFTN Summer Camp - 2014
To: "mailingl...@fsftn.org" 


Dear all ,

We are happy to announce the FSFTN Summer Camp - 2014 in collaboration with
IIT-M GLUG.
This is the 4th year we are doing this . The first two were held in SSN ,
the last year's camp was held in IIT-M .

Please find below for the details .

FSFTN summer Workshop @ IIT Madras :

When : 15th June to 19th June (5 days)
Where: IIT Madras
Fees :
Registration fees : 3000
 / Early Bird (20 Payments) : 2500

Registration and other details  at :
http://fsftn.org/fsftn-summer-workshop-iit-madras-2014/


 Executive Committee ,
FSFTN
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[Ilugc] Good Reads

[sibi kanagaraj]

1.Grassroots Water Monitoring And Open Data: A Fruitful Combination -

http://www.forbes.com/sites/federicoguerrini/2014/05/12/grassroot-water-monitoring-and-open-data-a-fruitful-combination/

2.Chat with Your Facebook Friends Using Encryption -

http://www.cio.com/article/752754/Here_39_s_How_to_Chat_with_Your_Facebook_Friends_Using_Encryption

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[Ilugc] Fwd: [Wikidata-l] job posting: PHP backend developer to support the Wikidata dev team

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-- Forwarded message --
From: "Lydia Pintscher" 
Date: May 12, 2014 8:24 PM
Subject: [Wikidata-l] job posting: PHP backend developer to support the
Wikidata dev team
To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." <
wikidat...@lists.wikimedia.org>, "Wikidata technical discussion" <
wikidata-t...@lists.wikimedia.org>, 

Hey everyone,

I am looking for a great PHP developer to join the software
development department at Wikimedia Germany. We have a lot of backend
tasks to do around Wikidata especially for the support of Wikimedia
Commons. More details about the position are available at
https://wikimedia.de/wiki/PHP_Backend_Developer_(f/m)  If this is you
please do apply. If you know someone who fits please send them them
the link. This is a great chance to make a difference around
Wikidata's software.

Cheers
Lydia

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Product Manager for Wikidata

Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
10963 Berlin
www.wikimedia.de

Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.

Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das
Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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Re: [Ilugc] Tool for file format conversion

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi ,

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Aswin Kumar  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Please suggest any opensource tool to convert a ".jpg" format file to
> ".pdf".The data in the file is confidential so could not trust the
> online free tools.
>

My simple solution would be to use Inkscape , import the .jpg format . and
use save as option to save it as PDF .
Hope it helps .

-Sibi


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[Ilugc] Details on HeartBleed bug

[sibi kanagaraj]

A simple yet effecient way of explaining Heart Bleed bug

http://thehackernews.com/2014/04/heartbleed-bug-explained-10-most.html

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Re: [Ilugc] License of Text books of Tamil Nadu School Books

[sibi kanagaraj]

HI ,


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Arun Prakash wrote:

> hi,
>
> >
> > Though a bill can help , it can also be done other way around with
> > bureaucratic help . Ncert has given its books under cc licence via
> > bureaucratic route and not the legislative route.
> > \
> >
>
> Can you share the link. I ended up here:
> http://www.ncert.nic.in/ncerts/textbook/textbook.htm which says
>


This link would help nroer.in/




>
> Please note that the NCERT textbooks are copyrighted.
> >
> > While copies of these textbooks may be downloaded and used as textbooks
> or
> > for reference, republication is strictly prohibited. No agency or
> > individual may make electronic or print copies of these books and
> > redistribute them in any form whatsoever. Use of these online books as a
> > part of digital content packages or software is also strictly prohibited.
> > No website or online service is permitted to host these online textbooks.
> >
> > Links may however be provided with written permission from the NCERT.
> >
>
> In National Repository of Open Educational Resources (NROER) site :

While in the home page its given as :
All material is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike
3.0 Unported License
<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>unless mentioned
otherwise.


In the terms of reference its given that ,

NROER is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0
International License.

You are free to :

Share– copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format
Adapt– remix, transform, and build upon the material for any purpose, even
commercially.
The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the license
terms.

Under the following terms :

Attribution– You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the
license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable
manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endroses you or your
use.
ShareAlike– If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must
distribute your contributions under the same license as the original.
No additional restrictions– You may not apply legal terms or technological
measures that legally restrict others from doing anything the license
permits.

Notices :

You do not have to comply with the license for elements of the material in
the public domain or where your use is permitted by an applicable exception
or limitation.
No warranties are given. The license may not give you all of the
permissions necessary for your intended use. For example, other rights such
as publicity, privacy, or moral rights may limit how you use the material.


-Sibi


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Re: [Ilugc] License of Text books of Tamil Nadu School Books

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On Apr 23, 2014 9:47 AM, "Arun Prakash"  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> >
> > The books are only in PDF format and copyrighted by TamilNadu
Government,
> >
> > It will be nice to release them in Creative Commons license or Public
> > Domain License, with the source documents.
> >
> > With the source documents we can create epub.mobi and other formats
> > for reading in mobiles/tablets/ebook readers.
> >
> >
> > I wrote to
> > schsec AT tn.gov.in, mdtntbc07 AT dataone.in, booksonline AT nic.in
> >
> > regarding this.
> >
> > Do you know whom to contact for this and request processes?
> >
>
> I don't think so, talking to a single person will do this. It should be
> raised in assembly and has to be accepted. Last TN assembly i think had a
> word about free software, but nothing happened. You can also see the word
> open source and open standards in political manifesto of major political
> parties.
>
> I dont think doing commons licensing is possible now. It needs a bill to
be
> passed[1].

Though a bill can help , it can also be done other way around with
bureaucratic help . Ncert has given its books under cc licence via
bureaucratic route and not the legislative route.

>
> [1]  http://copyright.gov.in/Documents/CopyrightRules1957.pdf
>
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[Ilugc] Updates on April 8 cut-off for Windows XP support and more

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1.IRS misses XP deadline, pays Microsoft millions for patches
www.networkworld.com/news/2014/041114-irs-misses-xp-deadline-pays-280625.html

2.Microsoft confirms it's dropping Windows 8.1 support
http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/microsoft-confirms-its-dropping-windows-81-support-240407

3.50 years of BASIC: Celebrating the programming language's long, eventful
life
http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/50-years-basic-celebrating-resilient-programming-language

4.Microsoft ends support for custom domains in free email service
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-ends-support-for-custom-domains-in-free-email-service-7000028306/

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Re: [Ilugc] REG: VOTE

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi kavin,

On Apr 20, 2014 11:49 PM, "kavin raj"  wrote:
>
> I am Kavinraj, I like to know can

In India , we don't post vote, but cast it.

we post our vote through online for PM

in India , we don't elect prime ministers . we elect M.P s .



> election on 24th ?

just like your knowledge about India and its elections, so is your
understanding about the list. Think its not right place to ask the query .

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[Ilugc] a Quick Guide to Inkscape

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Dear all ,

A Quick Guide to Inkscape

http://www.microugly.com/inkscape-quickguide/

-Sibi
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Re: [Ilugc] [FSFTN] Query on eCos

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> --- On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:34 PM, sibi kanagaraj
>  wrote:
> | /*You may run configtool with zero, one or two arguments. You can specify
> | the eCos repository location, and/or
> | an eCos save file (extension .ecc) on the command line. The ordering of
> | these two arguments is not significant.
> | For example:
> | configtool /opt/ecos/ecos/packages myfile.ecc
> | */
> |
> | Here I got stuck .
> \--
>
> You have to be very specific when you are posting a problem. What is
> it that you tried at this step, and what was the output?
>

Apologies .
I thought was specific .Sorry for that . To be more specific
When I gave the command configtool it gave me reply as  "command not found"

But , I have not tried Baskar's solution yet . Will update once I try it .

Thank you ,
Sibi

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Re: [Ilugc] [FSFTN] Query on eCos

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Good that your are trying something using  eCos.
>

Thank you :)


> http://ecos.sourceware.org/
> >
> > I am "trying"  to use it . But , not able to figure it out from the
> manual
> > , so a little bit stuck .
> >
>
> What  kind of development board are you trying to use ?
>

Development board in the sense ? I tried to follow the steps which were
given here .

http://ecos.sourceware.org/getstart.html

1.yum install compat-libstdc++-33

2. Next to know my system architecture used
less /proc/cpuinfo  and then installed the tool chain for my architecture
which was Intel X86

3.wget --passive-ftp ftp://ecos.sourceware.org/pub/ecos/ecos-install.tcl

4.sh ecos-install.tcl

5.Next I tried to invoke the ecos configuration tool .
As mentioned in the ecos 3.0 user guide , which was got from
http://ecos.sourceware.org/docs-3.0/
/*
Add the eCos Configuration Tool install directory to your PATH, for example:
export PATH=/opt/ecos/ecos/bin:$PATH
*/

Till here it worked for me .

The next step was mentioned as

/*You may run configtool with zero, one or two arguments. You can specify
the eCos repository location, and/or
an eCos save file (extension .ecc) on the command line. The ordering of
these two arguments is not significant.
For example:
configtool /opt/ecos/ecos/packages myfile.ecc
*/

Here I got stuck .





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[Ilugc] Query on eCos

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Hi all ,

I would like to know if any one has worked with or has first hand
experience of
eCos -  a free open source real-time operating system intended for embedded
applications .

http://ecos.sourceware.org/

I am "trying"  to use it . But , not able to figure it out from the manual
, so a little bit stuck .

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Re: [Ilugc] Query on licensing - Apache 2.0

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi ,

Thanks a lot for the input .

>
> Best wishes,
>
> SK
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Re: [Ilugc] Query on licensing - Apache 2.0

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>
> That would invalidate the requirement that all Apache software must be
> released under Apache 2.0 license?
>
> You can combine Apache and GPLv3 code in a project. Also read:
>
>   http://www.apache.org/licenses/GPL-compatibility.html
>
>
Upon reading this http://tesseract-ocr.repairfaq.org/

and I quote

"Tesseract is a commercial quality OCR engine originally developed at
Hewlett-Packard between 1985 and 1995. In 1995, this engine was among the
top three evaluated by UNLV <http://www.isri.unlv.edu/ISRI/OCRtk> (link's
dead - read background
here<http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/wiki/TestingTesseract>).
In 2005, Hewlett-Packard and UNLV open-sourced and it is now freely
available under the Apache
2.0<http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html>license. Most
notably, this means that you
*CAN* use tesseract in a commercial product *WITHOUT* releasing the
sources. That means that you can only *politely ask* to see them... keep
this in mind in the forums!"

unquote

is it possible that , I give my contributions to Tesseract , and still ,
its legally permissible that the code can be used for commecial purpose
without releasing the sources ?

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[Ilugc] Query on licensing - Apache 2.0

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all ,

I have a query regarding licensing .

Is it possible to take a code released under , Apache License, Version 2.0,
make modifications to it and release it under GPL V3 ?

-Sibi
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[Ilugc] Tamil OCR

[sibi kanagaraj]

Hi all ,

I am looking for Tamil OCR , not for immediate use but to contribute and do
research in it .

For the next  1  month , I would be able to study the different OCR's and
then take a final call on which to work on .

Have looked at the following - Tessaract OCR till now  .

If any other suggestions please let me know .

I would be able to contribute around 6-7 months in it after fixing which
one I am going to research upon .

Please note : Expecting Free software  , compatible  with GPLv3 and my work
will be in commons only .

Thanks in advance .

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[Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Wiki Women Workshop on Women's Day

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-- Forwarded message --
From: Srravya C 
Date: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:32 PM
Subject: [FSFTN] Wiki Women Workshop on Women's Day
To: mailingl...@fsftn.org


On International Women's Day (March 8), a Wikipedia Workshop for Women was
conducted at College of Engineering, Guindy, (CEG) Anna University. It was
jointly organized by Free Software Foundation, Tamil Nadu (FSFTN) and CEG's
GNU/Linux Users Group (CEGLUG).
Conducted as an all-girls workshop, the workshop was attended by 40
students from the Departments of Computer Science and Engineering (CSE) and
Information Science and Technology (IST).
The one day workshop was aimed at encouraging women to contribute to
Wikipedia and thereby reducing the current gender bias.
The participants were not only taught how to contribute to Wikipedia but
also about the importance of their contributions and how they can make a
difference.

The session was handled by Mr. Sibi from Free Software Foundation, Tamil
Nadu. At the end of the session, the participants were encouraged to start
contributing to Wikipedia as well as its sister projects. The feedback
collected showed positive response and a few had requested for follow up
sessions.


The Wikimedia Commons link to images taken on the day of the workshop,
http://goo.gl/lNpFRP
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Re: [Ilugc] Arduino Day - March 29

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On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Thoughtworks is planning for some arduino event on this day.
> Will update here once they confirmed.
>

Even from FSFTN we are planning . :) Lets hope for a great day .
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[Ilugc] Happy birthday Linux Kernel

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Hi all ,

Time to celebrate .

On 14 March 1994, Linux 1.0.0 was released, with 176,250 lines of code.:)

-Sibi
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[Ilugc] Women's History Month March 2014

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Dear All,

This March, WikiWomen's Collaborative( India)  is organising Women's
History Month, India-2014 - a host of programmes, edit-a-thons and
meet-ups to spread the awareness as well as participation among women in
English and regional language Wikipedias.

As  part of these celebrations, FSFTN is planning events throughout the
month. Wikipedia Workshops and edit-a-thons, both online and real-time
will be the key events.

If you would like to volunteer for the events or organise an event in your
college/institution/group, please contact

a...@fsftn.org


Executive Committee
FSFTN
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Re: [Ilugc] Wikipedia Women Editathon : College of Engineering, Guindy

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Highlighting a point which could be missed -


// The first of these will be held at College of Engineering, Guindy
*for CEG students.* //
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Re: [Ilugc] [FSFTN] Kaniyam Podcast - Bigdata

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>
> Reply here if you are interested in contributing to kaniyam tech podcasts.
My idea would be that we can pod cast the previous articles in kaniyam .
That would help in familiarising with the pod cast.
>
> --
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> T.Shrinivasan
>
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop on Tamil writing for kaniyam

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On Jan 21, 2014 6:17 AM, "sibi kanagaraj"  wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 21, 2014 1:13 AM, "Shrinivasan T"  wrote:
> >
> > Planning for conducting one day workshop on writing technical articles
> > in Tamil for kaniyam.
> >
> >
> > The following are the contents.
> >
> > 1. Typing in Tamil
> > 2. Intro to LibreOffice Writer
> > 3. How to write technical articles in Tamil
> > 4. Translation of technical words in tamil
> >
> > We can sit together and write articles for kaniyam and translate
> > documentation for KDE or GNOME or any other Free Software or open
> > source software.
> >
> > Looking for a place to have the workshop.
> How about having it in FSFTN office? We would be very happy to host such
an event.
Sorry  . Missed out the location and details of seating capacity.

Office is  near Hindi prachar sabha, Thanikachalam road , T nagar .

Seating capacity - We have 2 rooms.The meeting room would accommodate 15
friends and for working , we can split and sit in adjacent rooms , enabling
15 friends to work in ease .
> >
> > Reply here if any one is interested to provide space for this.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > T.Shrinivasan
> Regards,
> Sibi

-Sibi
> >
> >
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Re: [Ilugc] Workshop on Tamil writing for kaniyam

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On Jan 21, 2014 1:13 AM, "Shrinivasan T"  wrote:
>
> Planning for conducting one day workshop on writing technical articles
> in Tamil for kaniyam.
>
>
> The following are the contents.
>
> 1. Typing in Tamil
> 2. Intro to LibreOffice Writer
> 3. How to write technical articles in Tamil
> 4. Translation of technical words in tamil
>
> We can sit together and write articles for kaniyam and translate
> documentation for KDE or GNOME or any other Free Software or open
> source software.
>
> Looking for a place to have the workshop.
How about having it in FSFTN office? We would be very happy to host such an
event.
>
> Reply here if any one is interested to provide space for this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Regards,
> T.Shrinivasan
Regards,
Sibi
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Re: [Ilugc] ILUGC Meetings in cyberspace

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On Jan 8, 2014 12:09 PM, "Abdur Rahman"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Balasubramaniam Natarajan <
> bala150...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > My house is near central and say if I take the auto to come to IIT
Chennai
> > due to my personal reasons I have to shell out ~ RS. 250 one way and
would
> > take equally that much back to my house.  I cannot shell out RS 500
just on
> > travel alone :-(, Since I am interested in sharing and gaining
knowledge I
> > feel it is more apt and easy for many people to join the meeting should
> > this happen over the web.
> >
> > first thing is why do you take auto? why not public transport?
He has mentioned it clearly that its due to his personal reasons. Lets
kindly not get into it.
> you have a train which is reasonable at fare
> and also by travelling in public transport will reduce the pollution
> emission.
>
>
> > If people don't consider me cheap I can contribute RS 50 towards making
> > this meeting possible over the web.  I know this is a small amount
however
> > if some more people join together I guess the fund should be enough to
have
> > it over the net.  I have also heard about the counter comment that if
money
> > is involved it leads to unnecessary disputes (I am really not sure how
to
> > get that resolved).
> >
>
> IMPO we dont need to spend anything for that, we can just have Google
> Hangouts if we need.
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Re: [Ilugc] Fwd: [FSFTN] Free software calendar for the year 2014

[sibi kanagaraj]

Dear all ,

We would start working on it from today . I would like to give the initial
work division as follows .Please feel free to edit it .
1.Regarding coordination of our work and to avoid any redundancy , we can
go for a group or a private ether pad .
2.In that lets list out what all free knowledge things that have to be
present for a month .
3.lets also use a git if needed
4.then lets work upon finalized list and then start implementing it in
inkscape
5.lets keep initial deadline as 25th December , so that we can launch the
calendar by January 1st .
6.the work has to be in creative commons with licence version above 3.0
7. please have it consideration that , diversity issues not restricted to
localisation and participation of women have to be included to make it more
inclusive.

-Sibi
On Nov 13, 2013 10:08 AM, "mani vannan"  wrote:

> -- Forwarded message ------
> From: "sibi kanagaraj" 
> Date: Nov 7, 2013 8:59 PM
> Subject: [FSFTN] Free software calendar for the year 2014
> To: 
> Cc:
>
> Dear all ,
>
> We are considering to do a free software - philosophy and technology
> calendar for the year 2014. We are planning to do it as a community . As
> the first step , we can form a team which would work on it . Requesting
> interested community members join us .
>
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Re: [Ilugc] Education Freedom Day

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Hi all ,

On Nov 30, 2013 10:14 PM, "A. Mani"  wrote:
>
> Goal: Promote/Consolidate Free Software Adoption in Education
>
> http://www.educationfreedomday/
>
> Date: 18th Jan'14
>
> _-
>
> Plans?

FSFTN has plans of organising EFD in Chennai and. if possible in
surrounding  areas .

>
>
>
>
> Best
>
> A. Mani
>
>
>
> A. Mani
> CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS
> http://www.logicamani.in
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Re: [Ilugc] Women's Contributions on Free Open Source Software

[sibi kanagaraj]

what  are the basic points missed in your opinion !
On Oct 24, 2013 2:16 AM, "A. Mani"  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Shrinivasan T 
wrote:
> > Nithya, author of MySQL and GNU/Linux book in Tamil,
> > spoke about "Women's Contributions on Free Open Source Software" at
> > software freedom day 2013.
> >
> > Watch it here.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Ddewj7lZg
>
>
> She spoke on issues in women contributing to FOSS from a middle-class
> hetero-normative patriarchy friendly perspective and
> missed far too many basic points (at least in the youtube video).
>
>
> Best
>
> A. Mani
>
>
>
> A. Mani
> CU, ASL, AMS, CLC, CMS
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Re: [Ilugc] A guest speaker needed at Abacus 2011 @ ANNA UNIVERSITY

[sibi raj]

Is any one speaking on FOSS or its left as such:(

--- On Sat, 22/1/11, Narendra Sisodiya  wrote:

From: Narendra Sisodiya 
Subject: [Ilugc] A guest speaker needed at Abacus 2011 @ ANNA UNIVERSITY
To: "ILUG-C" 
Date: Saturday, 22 January, 2011, 11:51 AM

I won't be able to join, Please Contact Sri if anyone want to speak on FOSS.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Sri raam Subramanian 
Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Subject: A guest lecture for Abacus 2011 @ ANNA UNIVERSITY



Sir,
Abacus is a flagship event of department of computer science,College of
Engineering Guindy, Anna University in which students across India
participate .This year , it is scheduled on 28th and 29th of January.Check
out our site at www.abacus11.in.

As a part of the exclusive events organized in Abacus 2011, We would like to
have a your guest lecture as a part of our Abacus 2011, We believe it would
be of great value and inspiration to students .We are open to suggestions on
the agenda of the talk and its duration. We await your reply at the earliest
to facilitate arrangements and promotion of the event.



-- 
Sriraam
College of Engineering, Guindy
http://kurukshetra.org.in/
Chennai.




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Re: [Ilugc] [Commercial] [fiction] Legal advice needed for selling one e-book

[sibi raj]

Hello Narendra , 
I think it would be right to put it in courier charge .
Because 
*However, sale or charges for profit beyond reasonable
printing costs
are prohibited.*
This could be brought under printing cost . 
In the best case , you could   mail to  wtre...@trinity.edu. and inform them 
about this . 
Also try to mail Mr., William F. Trench as it would nullify any copyright 
provision , if you get the consent of the author .
-Regards,Sibi

--- On Sat, 18/12/10, Narendra Sisodiya  wrote:

From: Narendra Sisodiya 
Subject: [Ilugc] [Commercial] [fiction] Legal advice needed for selling one 
e-book
To: "fosscomm" , "ILUG-C" 
Date: Saturday, 18 December, 2010, 2:39 PM

One of my student asked for Softcopy of this Book -
http://ramanujan.math.trinity.edu/wtrench/misc/index.shtml
It is freely available book.
But the problem - He do not have internet to download. He asked me to
download the Ebook and Burn it into a CD and Courier it.
I do not knowledge to legal operation to do so.

The Copyright & License of the book is following.
+
©2003 William F. Trench, all rights reserved
Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data
Trench, William F.
Introduction to real analysis / William F. Trench
p. cm.
ISBN 0-13-045786-8
1. Mathematical Analysis. I.
Title.
QA300.T667 2003
515-dc21
2002032369

Free Edition 1.05, November 2010
This book was published previously by Pearson Education.
This free edition is made available in the hope that it will be useful as a
textbook or refer-
ence. *Reproduction is permitted for any valid noncommercial educational,
mathematical,
or scientific purpose*. However, sale or charges for profit beyond reasonable
printing costs
are prohibited.
A complete instructor’s solution manual is available by email to
wtre...@trinity.edu, sub-
ject to verification of the requestor’s faculty status.
+++


My village friend will send me money 100 INR for this purpose.

1) What should write in INVOICE for 100 INR because I do not want to violate
license.

Will it be ok if I write
CD cost - - 0/-
Service Charge -- 100/-
++
Total - 100/-

           Or

CD cost - - 0/-
Courier Charge -- 100/-
++
Total - 100/-


PS: The purpose of this mail is not to start any business or get money. The
purpose is to get knowledge so that somebody should be able to do this.
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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

Hello Thyagarajan Shanmugham ,
That was an entirely new post. Just 2 lines were from the previous mail . 
I am fully supportive in case of interleaved posting . 
But when  some one new does a top or bottom posting why we need to be so harsh 
to him ?
That was my point over there .
Not being harsh isn't a strict rule written any where but a basic human nature .
-Sibi 




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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

1. do not top post
2. do not bottom post
Last but  not the least ..
3. Any one other than the person who framed the law - Please dont post:))
This is called as democracy , One person Dictates and all others listen to it 
...
> the guideline is wrong on that point
Or am i wrong in naming it ?
According to stringent LAW which is posted in 
http://ilugc.org.in/reportfull/5/
*Posted by: lawgon( not by a unanimous decision)  Dated: Sat 15 Aug 2009 *
Quote unquote : * I do not believe in interleaved posting - I want to top post, 
why stop me?We dont care what you believe. If you join the list, you *must* 
follow the list rules - or get them changed. You may believe that driving on 
the right side of the road is fine, but the rule says to drive on the left, so 
do it or leave the list. * I want the rules  to be democratized and not 
dictated to me  . According to the clause I want them   changed .I request the 
members to have a democratic debate on this and not allow autocratic or a 
dictator to rule over our thoughts and take away our freedom . Because , again 
quoting from http://ilugc.org.in/reportfull/5/Indian Linux Users Group - 
ChennaiFreedom Matters.My point here is when people top/bottom post please 
don't bring their morale down  them publicly .This would mount to flare mail 
and its against the list eitiquette.-Sibi




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Re: [Ilugc] Fw: [Fwd: Re: Gnu linux user groups or linux user groups ?]

[sibi raj]

Right , 
He has done so much for GNU and Linux , and you are not able to digest it :). A 
natural reply from a person  who sees Linux only  in economic perspective and 
benefit for a particular company  but not as an socio-economic alternative . 
If you wish please start KG Rasigar Mandram , lets see the enrollment .
If no one comes ( its sure that none will join autocrats like you who want to 
take the fame of work a community has done , by replacing the word WE by ME ) , 
please let me know , I will try to arrange for one or two people  .
Note : You attack me , you attack me personally , you have all the rights to do 
so . But is you attack the ideology which I follow or the people who have 
contributed to the movement , I cant bear it . 
- Sibi

actually the only correct way is to call them RMS rasigar manrams
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[Ilugc] Fw: [Fwd: Re: Gnu linux user groups or linux user groups ?]

[sibi raj]

For your information .

--- On Tue, 5/10/10, s...@fsftn.org  wrote:

From: s...@fsftn.org 
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Gnu linux user groups or linux user groups ?]
To: sibi_...@yahoo.co.in
Date: Tuesday, 5 October, 2010, 10:41 PM

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Gnu linux user groups or linux user groups ?
From:    "Richard Stallman" 
Date:    Sun, October 3, 2010 9:03 pm
To:      s...@fsftn.org
--

    But when we form user groups , there are LUG's Ex,( Indian Linux user
    Groups) , Is it in any way wrong to call it user groups as  GLUG or is it
    mandatory to call it as LUG ?

It is right to call the groups GNU/Linux User Groups, aka GLUGs.





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Re: [Ilugc] Free Software for downloading contents of a site tab wise

[sibi raj]

Hello Nithin , 
Thanks for your help .
-Sibi




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Re: [Ilugc] Re: ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi raj]

Hello Ganesh , 
For starting a Glug/Lug  ( I dont want to debate on it anymore on this thread 
as told by Ganesh), target a single college , it would be good if its your 
college , then  speak with the students  . They would most probably be your 
friends or in worst case friends of friends . Then represent this matter to 
your HOD . If there is green signal from HOD we can conduct a session in your 
college and after that free software  would start to blossom in and around 
Coimbatore .The only problem is a good beginning . Hope you guys can deliver it 
with full force . Any help feel feel to mail us . 
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[Ilugc] Free Software for downloading contents of a site tab wise

[sibi raj]

Hello Friends , 
I am in need of a free software which could download the contents of a website 
tab wise and store it in my hard disk .Please let me know your suggestions . 
-Sibi 


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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

Ah .personal attack ...
I love it :)

>cool - you were in Coimbatore and never started a lug or a glug and
never even contributed to any of the foss events in Coimbatore

Want my track record in it ?

Here it comes  .

You missed my point . I never look up or go behind cheap publicity .

1.When I was in Chennai , just as a student I used to travel the ends of
Chennai , to organise and conduct events . With just a 30 rupees bus
ticket .I have never got the esteemed privilage of sitting in government's
money and travelling in cars nor sitting in AC rooms . Sweat  - I enjoyed
each and every drop of it when it trickled down .

2.Chennai colleges know it - Want to know the exact students I met or the
number of colleges I traveled ??

3.I was in Coimbatore for 7 months - a split of 2 months during june -
august 2009 and the last few months of my career - 3 months .SOme people
sitting in Chennai have been here since ages and allowed proprietary to
florish , wat could have i done  in 3 months ? Thats the reason i could
not contribute .Even in that dire circumstances , i have reached
engineering colleges , polytechnic colleges inn and around Coimbatore ,
plus Erode .

4.In the moths I was in Bangalore , I worked with most of the Glugs in
Bangalore colleges, simultaneous member of Free software movement
karnataka and Free software foundation, Tamilnadu . - Please refer to fsmk
(Free software movement karnataka ) for my contribution towars colleges in
Bangalore , Mysore .

5.I never told that you are not a team player, I just told we need team
players . Long ago I heard a tamil proverb
(நுணலும்
தன்வாயால்
கெடுm) , was searching for an example , gods grace
, found you .

6."No use" - Good word , good word . Appreciated .People always think to
impose their character on others.

7.Shove - just now  I referred my oxford dictionary and found that shove
means Push . Yes , we will push free software into young minds .

I would also shove anti-GNU people .

Since it was a personal attack on me , i too have attacked personally .
Who ever has/have committed mistake please replace "people" with your name
and read it and get angry . Others , I never hesitate - I am sorry :( . I
never meant to hurt you .

-Sibi


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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

Hello Guruprasad ,

I told repeatedly that I am not going to involve in any personal attacks
until provocative statements are issued against me . Once the personal
attack has started I cannot refrain myself . :(

-Sibi

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

> why are you top posting again?

> I apologize .
I am not as stern as you ,If i commit a mistake , I am ready to accept it
.and correct it .

To other members, I previously told that I would not debate on this issue
, but he is constantly attacking me .I am left with no other options.

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

>you can start a GLUG - I will not either debate on it or join it.

Wow , A good beginning for the Glug,
I whole heartedly appreciate your involvement( standing away) from the Glugs.
We need team players , not view imposers .

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

>> So let *you* call it that way, not *us*.
>
> I call it linux - what do you call it?

>>> Thats his wish , personal wish . Why do u want to intervene in his
freedom ??

>> So let every person call what he thinks is correct. Not what you
>> think.
>
> sure - I call it linux - what do you think?
>> Don't impose your views.
>
> I did not impose my views - I expressed my views - why don't you express
> yours?

You never suggested anything . You sharply oops ,rather bluntly told that
every one must call it as lug



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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

>>   There is nothing wrong in calling it GLUG
>
> there is a lot wrong in calling it a GLUG.

whats difference between yourself and a proprietary software ?

Microsoft says , its a EULA and you got to accept it .

You say, I am wrong and every one else has to accept it .

You both will not give reasons :)

Give me valid reasons .. or at least give me a valid reason , I would
interrogate it .





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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

:)

Sure I will take care top posting .Corporate environment taught it, still
its not going :)

-Sibi

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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

Hi members,

I have given a lengthy description supporting my view .
I am ready to accept my fault if its my fault .
But please don't make a one line (to be precise 3 word) comment just to
prove that I am wrong .
As said by other members , Mr.Guruprasad and Mr.Balachandran Sivakumar
and stressed very strongly by அகிலன் ,
I am not taking this to yet another lengthy discussion , by respecting the
freedom and rights of the members.
In spite of that if you want to prove that GLUG is not a correct acronym
to be used , then I am ready to debate on it .

Regards,
K.Sibi

*Start as many GLUGS as possible !
Reach as many masses as possbile !*


> On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 03:01 -0500, s...@fsftn.org wrote:
>> Quite interesting argument
>>
>> Long back when i was introduced to Linux philosophy , the first
>> teachings
>> was that don't call it as linux  , call it as Gnu Linux .
>>
>> That's the reason behind calling it as GLUGS .
>> Please correct me if I am wrong in this front.
>
> you are wrong
> --
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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

Quite interesting argument

Long back when i was introduced to Linux philosophy , the first teachings
was that don't call it as linux  , call it as Gnu Linux .

That's the reason behind calling it as GLUGS .
Please correct me if I am wrong in this front.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#why
Quoting from the final link

Why do you call it GNU/Linux and not Linux?
Most operating system distributions based on Linux as kernel are
basically modified versions of the GNU operating system. We began
developing GNU in 1984, years before Linus Torvalds started to write
his kernel. Our goal was to develop a complete free operating system.
Of course, we did not develop all the parts ourselves—but we led the
way. We developed most of the central components, forming the largest
single contribution to the whole system. The basic vision was ours
too.

In fairness, we ought to get at least equal mention.

See Linux and the GNU Project and GNU Users Who Have Never Heard of
GNU for more explanation, and The GNU Project for the history.
Documentation from FSF site

Copyright © 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is permitted in
any medium without royalty provided this notice is preserved.

-Sibi

> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 12:54 -0500, s...@fsftn.org wrote:
>> Anyways , we as a community would would lend our full workforce for
>> development of Free software Glugs
>
> we are talking of a LUG, not a GLUG.
> --
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Re: [Ilugc] ILUG-Coimbatore

[sibi]

Until recently I was in Coimbatore .:(

Its very sad that I could  not provide help for building a Free software
movement base in Coimbatore .

Anyways , we as a community would would lend our full workforce for
development of Free software Glugs in colleges in Coimbatore and
surrounding areas .Please feel free to post any help which you need in
this regard.

-Sibi

> On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 15:06 +0530, Baskar Selvaraj wrote:
>> Karpagam Institute of Technology, Bodipalayam, Coimbatore
>> Angel College of Engineering and Technology, Thiruppur
>> United Institute of Technology, Periyanaickenpalayam, Coimbatore
>> Info Institute of Engineering, Kovilpalayam, Coimbatore
>> Sengunthar Engineering College, Thiruchengode, Namakkal Dt.
>> Sengunthar College of Engineering, Thiruchengode, Namakkal Dt.
>> Excel College of Engineering for Women, Namakkal Dt.
>> Kongu Engineering College, Perundurai, Erode Dt.
>
> sri krishna also has excellent foss lab
> --
> regards
> KG
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Re: [Ilugc] Conducted Two day workshop @ Kongu Engineering College - Erode

[sibi]

Sure you would get the community help in this regard.

-Sibi

> Thank you,sir.
> We asked feedback from our juniors,who have attended the workshop.
> They are recommended the same for their juniors also to get the experience
> in LAMP.
> You are impressed those guys.
>
> More than that we have many plans regarding FOSS activities to execute in
> this year.
> We are in need of you guys' help to conduct those events!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> With regards,
>
> Kannan. R. P,
> Blog @: http://kannan4k.wordpress.com/
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Re: [Ilugc] SFD'10 @ Jaya Engineering College

[sibi]

I would like to thank FOSS club of Jaya engineering college for giving me
such a wonderful platform to speak on .

The SFD was more or like a Festival there .

The number of stalls truly amazed me and the enthusiasm showed by them
gives me a greater confidence that the days of proprietary softwares are
numbered .

The students in the stall elucidated what actual Free S/w means . Its not
just an intellectual alternative to proprietary softwares but a social
movement  which would spread its wings to all parts of TamilNadu in near
future .

The HOD sir has to be applauded for his greater interest . I thank him and
also congratulate him from bottom of my heart for spreading the message of
free S/W.

Each and every student had a participation in it .

The community model model is evolving .:)

Happily,
K.Sibi


> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Vignesh M 
> wrote:
>> Hi al,
>>
>> Jaya FOSS Club (JFC) of Jaya Engineering College celebrates SOFTWARE
>> FREEDOM
>> DAY'10 on 18th September, 2010. Please visit
>> http://sfd.jayafossclub.org/for further details.
>>
>>
>
> Sibi from FSF, TN would be delivering a talk on Software Patents and
> threats to knowledge Freedom. See you all there.
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