RE: [ilugd] help
Me too.. -Original Message- From: rohit giri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] help unsubscribe ___ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] help
read the damn text at the bottom yaar!!! it(the link!) is there in all mails just because fantastic people like you don't send in junk like this!!! please try using the automatic route, rather than disturb a thousand people on the list for it!!! rbs On Sun, 2003-08-17 at 22:35, Mohammad Zafar wrote: Me too.. -Original Message- From: rohit giri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] help unsubscribe ___ Meet your old school or college friends from 1 Million + database... Click here to reunite www.batchmates.com/rediff.asp ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Query Linux Users Meeting
Hello Frieds, Please tell me who all can participate in this meeting. Thank You Ankur Tyagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job search http://corp.mail.com/careers ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:29:00AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sandip:) and also about sometimes not having choice. I know (and I am occasionally Sandipone of these) many people who have to use Windoze bozes because of Sandiprequirements at job. If that is the time that they have to keep up with the Sandiplist, they will use what they have to communicate. As long as the community Sandipbenefits from the participation of that individual, I dont think it should Sandipmake a huge difference what software the person is using... Sandip SandipYes, using OSS software is a good demonstration of what we are preaching, but Sandipwhen we can't use it, we respect the compulsions(if any) of the person to not Sandipuse it at that point of time ... A lot of GNU alternatives are available on the windows platform too. if only someone would try to make an effort. I think mozilla plus its mail client runs just as well on windows. there is sylpheed. http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/hi/index.html GNuwin2 is there. But, I am not judging anyone here. And my original reply was not intended to make Tarun look bad, guilty or anything it was to Shuvam but it invariably did that. Rajuoh, I don't know. You could be a lawyer who fights cases for the free Rajusoftware community pro bono, but still not use, want to use or know Rajuhow to use Linux or *BSD. Does that make you less of a contributor to Rajuthe free software community? IMO it's not a good idea to judge Rajupeople's ideals by what technology they use, in general. No, no one should be judged and no one should explain why he uses windows. but, is it really so hard to shift to an open source email client that debating about it on the mailing list seems like an easier option? I volunteer to download, install and personaly train Tarun if he can/ he wishes to shift to mozilla. and if mozilla dsnt comes up to his expectations as an email client he shouldnt be promoting or looking for ways to make any case stronger for opensource. I dont think henry ford ever bought a volksvagan. - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/P8YF7v3NbZTFJeIRAg0VAJwPhmdBMqPOv4w9gYtDAJESYoHWjACg8Tz0 uREsK76L9R0MdfFMb/+ftQo= =Wc2v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Fw: Routing Problem
Could you feed in more details. If I understood correctly, you want to use Linux box as a router, where exactly are you stuck ? -js $ -Original Message- $ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] $ g] On Behalf Of Yashpal Nagar $ Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 1:25 PM $ To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list $ Subject: [ilugd] Fw: Routing Problem $ $ $ $ - Original Message - $ From: Yashpal Nagar $ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 11:57 AM $ Subject: Routing Problem $ $ $ Hi $ $I have one problem. $ How do i tell my linux box to route different network's data $ through different routers. problem is both network takes $ their default GW as 0.0.0.0 And in routing table for 0.0.0.0 $ network it does have only one GW. $ $ How i can tell a Real IP range i.e xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/252 with $ via its own gateway ie. xxx.xxx.xxx.gw other than 0.0.0.0. $ $ INFACT: i have to assign one Real IP one private IP to same $ network( through virtual interfacing)card and anyone can ping $ to my real IP. If i assign only Real IP to my network $ interface any one can ping this. But when assign Private IP $ no one can ping to it $ $ Please HELP! $ $ regards, $ -Yash $ ___ $ ilugd mailing list $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd $ ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Query Linux Users Meeting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robins == Robins Tharakan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robins [snip] Robins and bring the latest edition of tcpdump compiled for an Robins S390 for Mary. he generally tries to fiddle around with Robins it somehow around the vicinity of CGO !!! ;) Please do NOT use any sniffing/snooping/hacking tools when connected to the network of a host organisation. I cannot reiterate this point strongly enough. We have been given a venue by the Ministry of IT out of the goodness of their hearts, and in my opinion using tools such as tcpdump, nmap, ettercap co comes under the heading of severely abusing our host's services. How would you like it if you invited someone to come and stay at your house and that person started testing the security of your doors, windows and locks and checking whether your burglar alarms were working or not? Since Kishore and I have been personally interacting with Dr Ramakrishnan for organising the venue, we will definitely kick out anyone we see using a sniffing or snooping tool when connected to the MIT network, and also ban that person from posting and receiving mails from the list. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE/QFapyWjQ78xo0X8RAncFAJ9oujr3HhX4yFVCzhor4o5+W6ONbgCfcz5J qR1cO46lXMLNCurBTacqStE= =SRs8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}
I will bite (and change my email client) if somebody can show me an email client that can talk to MS-Exchange (and yes, I do need those shared folders and shared calendars !!) and please do not get me started on why I need shared calendars integrated with my email client. If you have never used, you will never understand it. Alternatively, show me a good open source alternative to MS-Exchange that does that on server side - reliably. I know of an obscure product from Samsung but other than that in my ten years of managing systems (linux and windows included), I have not seen any. Last year, I got desperate even asked the question on slashdot But did not get any good replies, so I have little hopes from linux-delhi. Spoonman, I agree there are pleny of good open source email clients around (and no, mozilla is not what I would recommend) however, if you want to have a real productivity application (which at the minimum allows you to share your calendar and contacts in a user-friendly manner) there is absolutely nothing around. Hell, I will raise the bar and even offer $69 (my outlook license fee) for anybody who can convince me that there exist an alternative (open source) to outlook-exchange that is at least as reliable and allows me to share my calendar and contact database with my colleagues (with security that I can configure from my client and not from server). and I am not even asking for customizable database that outlook has any in the backend and its programmability. Spoonman, this is a linux list so I wont talk about all kind of customizability and extensibility that outlook offers but if you are interested I can show it to you sometime. (believe me, mutt-boy, you will be surprised. There is a reason why it is so easy to write viruses for outlook. And the reason is because, it is easy to write *anything* for outlook and that is not always a bad thing). I do not want to sound as if I like Microsoft or Outlook a lot. I feel equally sad that there are no good open source alternatives and do hope that one comes up. However, pretending that there exist one when there isnt any will not get us anywhere (nor will ridiculing people who use Outlook). There might be people for whom open source is a principle in life and they are willing to live with anything but would use only open source software. For me, using open source tools is preferable and valuable but not at the cost of quality and productivity. With Warm Regards Tarun Upadhyay Induslogic Inc. 4th Floor, Picadilly House 276, Capt Gaur Marg, Srinivaspuri Delhi 110065, India. P: +91.11.5170.9070 x 5353 F: +91.11.5170.9071 C: +91.9811.535353 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.induslogic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] i.org] On Behalf Of Spoonman Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:15 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll} -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:29:00AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sandip:) and also about sometimes not having choice. I know (and I am Sandipoccasionally one of these) many people who have to use Windoze Sandipbozes because of requirements at job. If that is the time that Sandipthey have to keep up with the list, they will use what they have Sandipto communicate. As long as the community benefits from the Sandipparticipation of that individual, I dont think it should make a huge difference what software the person is using... Sandip SandipYes, using OSS software is a good demonstration of what we are Sandippreaching, but when we can't use it, we respect the Sandipcompulsions(if any) of the person to not use it at that point of time ... A lot of GNU alternatives are available on the windows platform too. if only someone would try to make an effort. I think mozilla plus its mail client runs just as well on windows. there is sylpheed. http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/hi/index.html GNuwin2 is there. But, I am not judging anyone here. And my original reply was not intended to make Tarun look bad, guilty or anything it was to Shuvam but it invariably did that. Rajuoh, I don't know. You could be a lawyer who fights cases for the Rajufree software community pro bono, but still not use, want to use or Rajuknow how to use Linux or *BSD. Does that make you less of a Rajucontributor to the free software community? IMO it's not a good Rajuidea to judge people's ideals by what technology they use, in general. No, no one should be judged and no one should explain why he uses windows. but, is it really so hard to shift to an open source email client that debating about it on the mailing list seems like an easier option? I volunteer to download, install and personaly train Tarun if he can/ he wishes to shift to mozilla. and if mozilla dsnt comes up to his expectations as an email client he
Re: [ilugd] pop on public network
Robins == Robins Tharakan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robins hi, i just did a tcpdump on the local cable wallah Robins network, and realised that anyone with a tcpdump -i eth1 Robins -w file.dump can easily see my pop username/pwd Robins is there any way out? or is this the reason why tcpdump is Robins so dear a tool??? Solutions off the top of my head: 1. Use secure POP (SSL-enabled POP) 2. Use an SSL tunnel between your client and the server if the server permits you to do so. 3. Use IMAP+SSL. -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Debian CDs ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jasmeet == Jasmeet S Virdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jasmeet Ok, please send them over, let me take a look at them too Jasmeet .. -js http://kandalaya.org/debian-ls.zip The first part is the long listing of the ISO images. The rest of it (d{1,2,3,4,5,6,7}) is the long listing of each image mounted with loop. ~270Kb. - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE/QF1eyWjQ78xo0X8RApsXAJ4uGKY0jsXiQ+A57ATjD/e1ejD+bgCfe6au YALSGmUOLkV8V9pubpDiy/I= =M08d -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
RE: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}
On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 09:59, Tarun Upadhyay wrote: I will bite (and change my email client) if somebody can show me an email client that can talk to MS-Exchange (and yes, I do need those shared folders and shared calendars !!) and please do not get me started on why I need shared calendars integrated with my email client. If you have never used, you will never understand it. Ximian Evolution Suite ( available for Linux ) provides both server side as well as client side. The whole suite is not open source, however. This offers complete compatibility with MS-Exchange both on server side as well as client side.( Please verify this - thats what I last heard about it ) As far as shared calendering/shared folders is concerned I know quite a few Webmail type solutions apart from evolution (which is quite like MS-Exchange) on Linux provide that type of groupware. Have you searched Sourceforge for available solutions on shared calender/folders/groupware etc. -Tarun Dua -- http://www.tarundua.net Nothing you ever wanted to find about Tarun Dua ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Meeting on August 24
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, The next ILUG-Delhi meeting is tentatively scheduled for Sunday, August 24 at Electronics Niketan, SCOPE Complex, Lodi Road from 14:00 to 18:00. Tentatively since we're still awaiting approval from Ministry of IT. For those who are presenting, please send in your presentations to Kishore and I not later than Wednesday the 20th. A mail to the list on what you'd be discussing would also be useful. Thanks! If you have ideas on what to do at the Meet (and are willing to implement them!) please post them to the list. If you're attending, please send in your name IN PERSONAL e-mail to Kishore. We need this for security at the gate. There will be a GPG keysigning party at the meet. You can (create and) upload your GPG public keys to the Biglumber server, from where I'll print it out before the Meet. Remember, you will have to bring your key ID and a government-issue identification with you if you want your key signed! The URL for uploading your keys is: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=7830 I'd written about GPG keysigning for an earlier party, the older mail is available at: http://frodo.hserus.net/pipermail/ilugd/2003-May/000196.html If you have any questions about GPG and/or key signing, please read that page and the links. If you still have questions, please send a mail to the list. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard http://www.gnupg.org/ iD8DBQE/QGejyWjQ78xo0X8RAmI/AKCZStRrHpDqbBg7IU8xTPJG/8HxzwCaAqAj cA0B64fSIzUq+BQbJF7xY9k= =EFpi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd