I will bite (and change my email client) if somebody can show me an email
client that can talk to MS-Exchange (and yes, I do need those shared folders
and shared calendars !!) and please do not get me started on why I need
shared calendars integrated with my email client. If you have never used,
you will never understand it.
Alternatively, show me a good open source alternative to MS-Exchange that
does that on server side - reliably. I know of an obscure product from
Samsung but other than that in my ten years of managing systems (linux and
windows included), I have not seen any. Last year, I got desperate even
asked the question on slashdot But did not get any good replies, so I have
little hopes from linux-delhi.
Spoonman, I agree there are pleny of good open source email clients around
(and no, mozilla is not what I would recommend) however, if you want to have
a real "productivity" application (which at the minimum allows you to share
your calendar and contacts in a user-friendly manner) there is absolutely
nothing around.
Hell, I will raise the bar and even offer $69 (my outlook license fee) for
anybody who can convince me that there exist an alternative (open source) to
outlook-exchange that is at least as reliable and allows me to share my
calendar and contact database with my colleagues (with security that I can
configure from my client and not from server).
and I am not even asking for customizable database that outlook has any in
the backend and its programmability. Spoonman, this is a linux list so I
wont talk about all kind of customizability and extensibility that outlook
offers but if you are interested I can show it to you sometime. (believe me,
mutt-boy, you will be surprised. There is a reason why it is so easy to
write viruses for outlook. And the reason is because, it is easy to write
*anything* for outlook and that is not always a bad thing).
I do not want to sound as if I like Microsoft or Outlook a lot. I feel
equally sad that there are no good open source alternatives and do hope that
one comes up. However, pretending that there exist one when there isnt any
will not get us anywhere (nor will ridiculing people who use Outlook). There
might be people for whom open source is a principle in life and they are
willing to live with anything but would use only open source software. For
me, using open source tools is preferable and valuable but not at the cost
of quality and productivity.
With Warm Regards
Tarun Upadhyay
Induslogic Inc.
4th Floor, Picadilly House
276, Capt Gaur Marg, Srinivaspuri
Delhi 110065, India.
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> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:15 PM
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> On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:29:00AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> Sandip>:) and also about sometimes not having choice. I know
> (and I am
> Sandip>occasionally one of these) many people who have to use Windoze
> Sandip>bozes because of requirements at job. If that is the time that
> Sandip>they have to keep up with the list, they will use what
> they have
> Sandip>to communicate. As long as the community benefits from the
> Sandip>participation of that individual, I dont think it
> should make a huge difference what software the person is using...
> Sandip>
> Sandip>Yes, using OSS software is a good demonstration of what we are
> Sandip>preaching, but when we can't use it, we respect the
> Sandip>compulsions(if any) of the person to not use it at
> that point of time ...
>
> A lot of GNU alternatives are available on the windows platform too.
> if only someone would try to make an effort. I think mozilla
> plus its mail client runs just as well on windows. there is sylpheed.
>
> http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/hi/index.html GNuwin2 is there.
>
> But, I am not judging anyone here. And my original reply was
> not intended to make Tarun look bad, guilty or anything it
> was to Shuvam but it invariably did that.
>
> Raju>oh, I don't know. You could be a lawyer who fights
> cases for the
> Raju>free software community pro bono, but still not use,
> want to use or
> Raju>know how to use Linux or *BSD. Does that make you less of a
> Raju>contributor to the free software community? IMO it's not a good
> Raju>idea to judge people's ideals by what technology they
> use, in general.
>
> No, no one should be judged and no one should explain why he
> uses windows. but, is it really so hard to shift to an open
> source email client that debating about it on the mailing
> list seems like an easier option?
>
> I volunteer to download, install and personaly train Tarun if
> he can/ he wishes to shift to mozilla. and if mozilla dsnt
> comes up to his expectations as an email client he shouldnt
> be promoting or looking for ways to make any case stronger
> for opensource.
>
> I dont think henry ford ever bought a volksvagan.
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