Re: [SPAM] [ilugd] IP ROUTING - IP MASQUREDINg

2004-02-17 Thread Arindam Dey
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 15:13, Manoj K Gupta wrote:
> Hi Arindam,
> 
> I noticed ur query today only.
[Snip]
> > On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 17:25, Chithirai Selvan.R Alias Vimal thus
> > hollered from the roof:
> >
> > > this is my setup. 
[Snip]

-> This is where I pop in trying to help not asking for it.

> > Since nobody replied to the query,
[Snip]

Hello,

Very nice and thoughtful of you trying to help. But please please go
through the whole thread at least a cursory glance through it would have
told you I am not asking for help albeit trying to give it.

And please DO NOT TOP POST.(People who are against this no flames please
this is just my view). Now the perennial question 

"What is top posting?" 

For that go here http://www.kandalaya.org/guidelines.html

Spend a few minutes of your "valuable time" reading through it.

And even if you do top post at least look through the crap that is there
in the mail below it and [Snip] through it.

And to the list-admin why oh why does this does particular persons mail
always pop up twice in my mail box? Is it just me? Or is this guy trying
to antagonize me because he is succeeding. 

Nah this time the same mail did not pop up twice our friend here sent
the mail twice once after simply hitting the reply button and adding
"invaluable" help to it. Second time he noticed the [SPAM] tag courtesy
my Spamassassin on the subject line of the first mail and he went "Oh my
gosh, I should remove that! And SEND IT AGAIN!" and removed it and sent
it again within the minute.

Why oh why did you do this?

To everybody else sorry for the long rant.

Regards,

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[ilugd] Mail Management Software

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
hi,

i am looking for a complete Mail Managemrnt Software
(based on ticketing). Compatible with sendmail and
redhat 8.0.

one of such solution is RT, other one is MailManager
that runs on Zope.

is there some other solution available?

Requirement : 
when mail comes to my domian, a ticket gets generated
and that ticket is kept open until that query has been
completely answered.  all this should be automatic
i.e. it should get the mails from my sendmail server
running on same machine.

hope i am able to put my point forward.

if any person/company is intrested in providing
commercial solution to the above requirement , may
reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
i am falling short of explanations in favour of forum
 any body out there to help me

:)

amit


--- Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2004-02-17 22:42:26 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > are you one of those who like to see few hundred
> of mail getting
> > downloaded in the inbox?
> 
> I'm certainly not one of "those" who like to sit
> around hitting reload
> on a bunch of web pages all day.
> 
> I have to deal with a lot of email *anyway*, and my
> setup is optimised
> for just that. I'd prefer to continue to use the
> most efficient method
> I've evolved to deal with messages rather than learn
> a new one with a
> whole different behaviour and a new bunch of
> arbitrary limitations.
> 
> > i still fail to understand how come this email
> view of ilugd better
> > than the proposed forum view?
> 
> Email doesn't demand O(n) retrieval effort from the
> reader.
> 
> And as for archives, the kind of people who would
> consult the archives
> before posting to the list would do so no matter how
> the archives were
> maintained. And the other people would ignore the
> archives, no matter
> where they were, just as they don't even bother to
> ask google before
> posting trivial questions.
> 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
dear vivek,

yes !! vivek your point(s) is a valid one. i agree
with your point(s).

amit

--- vivek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 12:12, Amit Sharma wrote:
> > dear abhijit,
> > 
> > are you one of those who like to see few hundred
> of
> > mail getting downloaded in the inbox? 
> 
> many of the users (& gurus, who provide majority of
> the help) access
> their mails while in office. it is not possible for
> them, nor would they
> ever in their life prefer, to keep on going to the
> website, click
> "Reload" and see if anything is there to which they
> can answer. will yu
> do that? why would anyone spend his/er time
> searching for new topics to
> which s/he can answer?
> 
> against the forum
> 
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[ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-02-17 22:42:26 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> are you one of those who like to see few hundred of mail getting
> downloaded in the inbox?

I'm certainly not one of "those" who like to sit around hitting reload
on a bunch of web pages all day.

I have to deal with a lot of email *anyway*, and my setup is optimised
for just that. I'd prefer to continue to use the most efficient method
I've evolved to deal with messages rather than learn a new one with a
whole different behaviour and a new bunch of arbitrary limitations.

> i still fail to understand how come this email view of ilugd better
> than the proposed forum view?

Email doesn't demand O(n) retrieval effort from the reader.

And as for archives, the kind of people who would consult the archives
before posting to the list would do so no matter how the archives were
maintained. And the other people would ignore the archives, no matter
where they were, just as they don't even bother to ask google before
posting trivial questions.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
different persons have different views  well my
vote still goes for forum.

BTW, i have still to see a forum which is based on
world-wide-wait ;)

amit

--- Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Amit Sharma wrote:
> > dear abhijit,
> > 
> > are you one of those who like to see few hundred
> of
> > mail getting downloaded in the inbox? 
> 
> :D No. I would rather download hundreds of mails in
> my browser rendered 
> with hundreds of kb of HTML.
> 
> Come on, dont you get it? With every mail - there
> you go "click" on 
> "next", wait for the world-wide-wait to give you the
> next mail? How on 
> earth can forums on the web be more bandwidth
> friendly than email?
> 
> And you download all the mails only once if you use
> a mailing list! What 
> do you do in case of forums?
> 
> - Sandip
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [ilugd] IP ROUTING - IP MASQUREDINg

2004-02-17 Thread Manoj K Gupta
Hi Arindam,

I noticed ur query today only.

I assume that you are trying to run Internet from a PC/LAN  connected to
another multihomed PC connected to both ur ISP and local Lan.
Attached is a script file firewall.tar.zip which will solve ur problem.

There contains two files... rc.firewall and init/firewall

You need to edit the rc.firewall file by looking for EXTIP and INTIP
varibles and change their values to what u are having for ur network.
And thats it.. The file will provide you pretty secure firewall along with
NAT supported LAN.

The second step is to copy the file rc.firewall to /etc/rc.d/ and the
init/firewall to /etc/rc.d/init.d/

The last step is to enable the service firewall using "chkconfig -add"
command.

Now you should start the firewall by using "service firewall start".

This firewall script will automatically start as service when you will boot
next time.

I hope this will solve ur problems.

Enjoy:)

MKG






- Original Message - 
From: "Arindam Dey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Linux-Delhi Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SPAM] [ilugd] IP ROUTING - IP MASQUREDINg


> On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 17:25, Chithirai Selvan.R Alias Vimal thus
> hollered from the roof:
>
> > this is my setup. i have redhat 9.0
> > kernel 2.4.20-8 smp i686(firewall m/c)
> > gateway redhat 9.0(kernel 2.4.20-8)
> >
> > i have preconfigured DSL router ip addr-192.168.1.1 and two linux server
connect in loop
> >
> > 1 gateway server
> > 2. Firewall server
> >
> > gateway m/c is connect with DSL router it has 2 NIC card
> >
> > the first NIC card (eth1)ip-192.168.1.5 --connected to DSL router ip
add
> > 192.168.1.1
> >
> > the second NIC card (eth0)ip-192.168.2.1 which is connectd with Firewall
> > again it also has 2 nic card
> >
> > eth0- 192.168.2.1 -connectd with eth0 of gateway m/c as i said earler
> >
> > eth1 - 192.168.10.1 this is connect with my all clients.
> >
> > i can ping from firewall server  to both NIC cards of gateway machine
not the
> > DSL router ..i tried with single m/c as intranet gateway which is
working fine
> >
> > commands i tried is
> >
> > iptables -F -t nat
> > iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o 192.168.1.5 -j MASQUERADE
> > iptables -A FORWARD -i 192.168.10.1 -j ACCEPT
> >
> > this setup is when i don t have firewall  now i insert the firewall m/c
trouble startd
>
> Since nobody replied to the query,it seems the big guns who understand
> iptables are busy with Linux Asia so I will try answering the question.
> Again my oft mentioned quip holds true. If I am wrong then the person
> who corrects me is welcome to whack me on the head, albeit softly.
>
> Firstly would somebody please clarify this for me
> iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o 192.168.1.5 -j MASQUERADE
>
> The -o is supposed to be the out interface and I used to think something
> like eth? but on trying out the above command just out of curiosity it
> worked fine so does this mean interface can also be specified using the
> ip Could not figure out from the man page. Somebody please help out
> here.
>
> Secondly to the query at hand
>
> To configure iptables if you are not familiar with all the options try
> out Shorewall. http://www.shorewall.net . This is just a front end for
> configuring iptables.
>
> I did not understand on which machine you tried the above iptables
> commands. Should be the firewall but then at the end you mention that
> this setup is when "I don't have a firewall now I insert firewall m/c"
> so this comment threw me off. But still from what little I understood
> about your setup and assuming both the firewall and gateway are
> connected.
>
> A small side note here from what you have written above both your
> gateway(eth1) and Firewall(eth0) have the same ip of
> 192.168.2.1! Is that just a typo or it is actually like that
> huh? Please assign unique ip's to them. Say make the firewall(eth0)
> 192.168.2.1/24 and the gateway (eth1) 192.168.2.2/24
>
> Then try these entries on your iptables. I am assuming the net mask is
> 255.255.255.0 on all the three networks dot 1, dot 2 and dot 10. If not
> modify the commands accordingly
>
> On the firewall 
>
> iptables -t nat -F
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.10.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j
> MASQUERADE
>
> The above will masquerade anything coming from any machine on the dot 10
> network (all clients) going anywhere. If you do not want to masquerade
> everything and only those destined for the dot 2 network
> (firewall-gateway) then modify 0.0.0.0/0 accordingly to 192.168.2.0/24
> or something similar depends on your requirements. Alternatively if you
> want you can also modify the from (-s) to allow only incoming from some
> particular ip's. Again it is what you need.
>
> The above holds true for the nat table on the gateway also. Modify that
> too accordingly.But if I am not mistaken you want to access internet
> through this setup on the client pc's so I would suggest leaving 

Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread vivek
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 12:12, Amit Sharma wrote:
> dear abhijit,
> 
> are you one of those who like to see few hundred of
> mail getting downloaded in the inbox? 

many of the users (& gurus, who provide majority of the help) access
their mails while in office. it is not possible for them, nor would they
ever in their life prefer, to keep on going to the website, click
"Reload" and see if anything is there to which they can answer. will yu
do that? why would anyone spend his/er time searching for new topics to
which s/he can answer?

against the forum

P.S. Hi ams, vivek here, spv :-)

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Re: [SPAM] [ilugd] IP ROUTING - IP MASQUREDINg

2004-02-17 Thread Manoj K Gupta
Hi Arindam,

I noticed ur query today only.

I assume that you are trying to run Internet from a PC/LAN  connected to
another multihomed PC connected to both ur ISP and local Lan.
Attached is a script file firewall.tar.zip which will solve ur problem.

There contains two files... rc.firewall and init/firewall

You need to edit the rc.firewall file by looking for EXTIP and INTIP
varibles and change their values to what u are having for ur network.
And thats it.. The file will provide you pretty secure firewall along with
NAT supported LAN.

The second step is to copy the file rc.firewall to /etc/rc.d/ and the
init/firewall to /etc/rc.d/init.d/

The last step is to enable the service firewall using "chkconfig -add"
command.

Now you should start the firewall by using "service firewall start".

This firewall script will automatically start as service when you will boot
next time.

I hope this will solve ur problems.

Enjoy:)

MKG






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From: "Arindam Dey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Linux-Delhi Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [SPAM] [ilugd] IP ROUTING - IP MASQUREDINg


> On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 17:25, Chithirai Selvan.R Alias Vimal thus
> hollered from the roof:
>
> > this is my setup. i have redhat 9.0
> > kernel 2.4.20-8 smp i686(firewall m/c)
> > gateway redhat 9.0(kernel 2.4.20-8)
> >
> > i have preconfigured DSL router ip addr-192.168.1.1 and two linux server
connect in loop
> >
> > 1 gateway server
> > 2. Firewall server
> >
> > gateway m/c is connect with DSL router it has 2 NIC card
> >
> > the first NIC card (eth1)ip-192.168.1.5 --connected to DSL router ip
add
> > 192.168.1.1
> >
> > the second NIC card (eth0)ip-192.168.2.1 which is connectd with Firewall
> > again it also has 2 nic card
> >
> > eth0- 192.168.2.1 -connectd with eth0 of gateway m/c as i said earler
> >
> > eth1 - 192.168.10.1 this is connect with my all clients.
> >
> > i can ping from firewall server  to both NIC cards of gateway machine
not the
> > DSL router ..i tried with single m/c as intranet gateway which is
working fine
> >
> > commands i tried is
> >
> > iptables -F -t nat
> > iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o 192.168.1.5 -j MASQUERADE
> > iptables -A FORWARD -i 192.168.10.1 -j ACCEPT
> >
> > this setup is when i don t have firewall  now i insert the firewall m/c
trouble startd
>
> Since nobody replied to the query,it seems the big guns who understand
> iptables are busy with Linux Asia so I will try answering the question.
> Again my oft mentioned quip holds true. If I am wrong then the person
> who corrects me is welcome to whack me on the head, albeit softly.
>
> Firstly would somebody please clarify this for me
> iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -o 192.168.1.5 -j MASQUERADE
>
> The -o is supposed to be the out interface and I used to think something
> like eth? but on trying out the above command just out of curiosity it
> worked fine so does this mean interface can also be specified using the
> ip Could not figure out from the man page. Somebody please help out
> here.
>
> Secondly to the query at hand
>
> To configure iptables if you are not familiar with all the options try
> out Shorewall. http://www.shorewall.net . This is just a front end for
> configuring iptables.
>
> I did not understand on which machine you tried the above iptables
> commands. Should be the firewall but then at the end you mention that
> this setup is when "I don't have a firewall now I insert firewall m/c"
> so this comment threw me off. But still from what little I understood
> about your setup and assuming both the firewall and gateway are
> connected.
>
> A small side note here from what you have written above both your
> gateway(eth1) and Firewall(eth0) have the same ip of
> 192.168.2.1! Is that just a typo or it is actually like that
> huh? Please assign unique ip's to them. Say make the firewall(eth0)
> 192.168.2.1/24 and the gateway (eth1) 192.168.2.2/24
>
> Then try these entries on your iptables. I am assuming the net mask is
> 255.255.255.0 on all the three networks dot 1, dot 2 and dot 10. If not
> modify the commands accordingly
>
> On the firewall 
>
> iptables -t nat -F
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.10.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j
> MASQUERADE
>
> The above will masquerade anything coming from any machine on the dot 10
> network (all clients) going anywhere. If you do not want to masquerade
> everything and only those destined for the dot 2 network
> (firewall-gateway) then modify 0.0.0.0/0 accordingly to 192.168.2.0/24
> or something similar depends on your requirements. Alternatively if you
> want you can also modify the from (-s) to allow only incoming from some
> particular ip's. Again it is what you need.
>
> The above holds true for the nat table on the gateway also. Modify that
> too accordingly.But if I am not mistaken you want to access internet
> through this setup on the client pc's so I would suggest leaving 

Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Amit Sharma wrote:
dear abhijit,

are you one of those who like to see few hundred of
mail getting downloaded in the inbox? 
:D No. I would rather download hundreds of mails in my browser rendered 
with hundreds of kb of HTML.

Come on, dont you get it? With every mail - there you go "click" on 
"next", wait for the world-wide-wait to give you the next mail? How on 
earth can forums on the web be more bandwidth friendly than email?

And you download all the mails only once if you use a mailing list! What 
do you do in case of forums?

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Re: [ilugd] kenel programming book?

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which is the best book for kernel programming?And how can I get it?


Read books in this order:

1. Design of the Unix operating system/Operating systems: design and 
implementation by tanenbaum


I think you meant
Design of the Unix Operating System by Maurice J. Bach
:) I meant either/and the maurice bach book or/and the tanenbaum book. 
They overlap in content a bit.

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[ilugd] Sendmail - How to put restrictions.....?

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
hi,

i am using sendmail-8.12.5-7 on red hat 8.0.

it works fine and no problems as such.

now i want to put some restrictions on mails that are
send by my local users to the outside world.

i want that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is only allowed to send
mails to outside world as well as local users
(  mydomain.com. all other users (say 15 others)
should
not be allowed to send out a mail to outisde world but
they should be allowed to send mail among them (i.e.
to users of mydoamin.com)

i have fair idea that this can be done thru
/etc/mail/access. but am i right? please tell me how
do i implement the above mentioned restriction.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
dear abhijit,

are you one of those who like to see few hundred of
mail getting downloaded in the inbox? 

i still fail to understand how come this email view of
ilugd better than the proposed forum view?

amit
 
--- Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 2004-02-17 22:01:46 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
> > all great sites have forum, we should have forum
> 
> I am completely convinced by your exemplary logic.
> 
> > thread view is possible and archives are
> maintained, this way person
> > who joins this list will scan thru already posted
> ques and will not
> > put up already discussed questions again.
> > 
> > am i right?
> 
> No, you're hopelessly wrong.
> 
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[ilugd] changing the mailing list sig

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Shekhar
Currently the mailing list appends a footer
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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Shekhar
Amit Sharma wrote:

thread view is possible and archives are maintained,
this way person who joins this list will scan thru
already posted ques and will not put up already
discussed questions again.
Please check http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi for a 
beautifully threaded archive.

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Re: [ilugd] Updating linux-delhi.org website

2004-02-17 Thread Sudev Barar
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 18:46, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
>Can someone Please take some initiative to update linux-delhi.org 
> with current LinuxAsia2004 pics.
> Still anyone can see the 2 years old Banglore IT.com event on TOP.

Did you miss Raju's post on Sunday / Monday ...check out
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/dlug/dlugEvent.cgi

??
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[ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2004-02-17 22:01:46 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> all great sites have forum, we should have forum

I am completely convinced by your exemplary logic.

> thread view is possible and archives are maintained, this way person
> who joins this list will scan thru already posted ques and will not
> put up already discussed questions again.
> 
> am i right?

No, you're hopelessly wrong.

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RE: [ilugd] kenel programming book?

2004-02-17 Thread D.Venkatasubramanian, Noida
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Which is the best book for kernel programming?And how can I get it?
>> 
>> 
>
>Read books in this order:
>
>1. Design of the Unix operating system/Operating systems: design and 
>implementation by tanenbaum

I think you meant
Design of the Unix Operating System by Maurice J. Bach

>2. Understanding the unix kernel - oreilly
>3. Linux device drivers 2nd edition - oreilly
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>
>- Sandip
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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Amit Sharma
all great sites have forum, we should have forum, i
vote in favour of having the forum, the reason :

thread view is possible and archives are maintained,
this way person who joins this list will scan thru
already posted ques and will not put up already
discussed questions again.

am i right?

amit

--- Raj Shekhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mairu Gupta wrote:
> 
> > E..no, we'll have a opt-in for the mails,
> which can have the forum summary 
> > of the day being sent to all those wish to get
> that in text format.
> > 
> 
> And how will the people respond to forum posting
> summaries ? Checking 
> and responding to emails is far easier than checking
> the forum website.
> 
> Here are the points why forum is a bad idea
> 
> - Checking and responding to emails is far easier
> than checking a 
> website, logging into it and posting a reply.
> 
> - If we allow posting of anonymous users, we will
> have to deal with 
> spam. If we require users to register before posting
> a message, will the 
> search engines be able to search and archive the
> discussions ?
> 
> - If anonymous postings is allowed, who will deal
> with weeding out the 
> spam? We are all volunteers, so someone will have to
> take additional 
> responsibilities. The question is who ? What happens
> if the volunteer 
> get slack in his duties ?
> 
> I vote against the forum idea.
> 
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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Shekhar
Mairu Gupta wrote:

E..no, we'll have a opt-in for the mails, which can have the forum summary 
of the day being sent to all those wish to get that in text format.

And how will the people respond to forum posting summaries ? Checking 
and responding to emails is far easier than checking the forum website.

Here are the points why forum is a bad idea

- Checking and responding to emails is far easier than checking a 
website, logging into it and posting a reply.

- If we allow posting of anonymous users, we will have to deal with 
spam. If we require users to register before posting a message, will the 
search engines be able to search and archive the discussions ?

- If anonymous postings is allowed, who will deal with weeding out the 
spam? We are all volunteers, so someone will have to take additional 
responsibilities. The question is who ? What happens if the volunteer 
get slack in his duties ?

I vote against the forum idea.

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[ilugd] Fedora Core 2 test 1 CD available

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Hi!
I needed Fedora Core 2 preview releases for some work so I downloaded 
Fedora Core 2 test 1. Those who want to experiment with kernel 2.6.x can 
get this distrib from me according to the instructions at 
http://www.sandipb.net/drupal/book/view/44

BTW, Fedora core 2 is coming in 4 CDs now. :)

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] ILUG-D: Contact Us

2004-02-17 Thread Mejo Jose
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Forwarding without prejudice -- Raju]

Message from Avinesh Bangar:

I am aware of the bandwidth situation in India.  Therefore, I am willing to mail out (from Canada) Linux distributions to members of your LUG for the fee of the media ($1/CD) and shipping/postage.
 
Thanks for your kindness, Avinesh. As you said, it's very difficult(and 
expensive) to get latest Linux distributions in India.
But $1 will be around Rs 45 and postage will be at least Rs 100. So when 
it reaches India, it's going to be expensive.

 Most users here has got dial up connection through which downloading 
an entire distribution is impossible(??). I faced the same problems 
earlier, but now I have got a broadband connection - 256Kbps RF link - 
and to help others, I am 'distributing' cds at the price of media.

Thanks & Regards,
Mejo Jose
http://linux.mejokj.com




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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Mairu Gupta

Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The problem with forum is that it will try to split the readers - one 
> would either read the mails or read the forum  - people dont have time 
> for both.

E..no, we'll have a opt-in for the mails, which can have the forum summary 
of the day being sent to all those wish to get that in text format.


Some major positives that i find from the forum community is :

High Popularity For ILUG-D
Better Linux Awareness
Archives more accessible for newbies
Attractive and more friendly environment for newbies
Organized Moderated discussion possible
More community feel



Negatives :

Bandwidth/Hosting
Time


We already have a core community with which we can begin the forum in a very 
big and active way, the next best thing to do..


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[ilugd] ILUG-D: Contact Us

2004-02-17 Thread avinesh
[Forwarding without prejudice -- Raju]

Message from Avinesh Bangar:

I am aware of the bandwidth situation in India.  Therefore, I am willing to mail out 
(from Canada) Linux distributions to members of your LUG for the fee of the media 
($1/CD) and shipping/postage.
 

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Re: RE: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread V Shekhar
Manoj,
if u r able to telnet to ISP's server on PORT25 , it does not mean u r 
allowed or able to relay,
relay chk happend once u type in the TO: address



Warm Regards.
 - V SHEKHAR -
  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:37 pm
Subject: RE: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

> 
> Hi shekhar
> 
> Still no luck
> 
> My ISP allow me to relay as m able to telnet at port 25 of their relay
> server from my m/c
> 
> What to do ??? anyone who has faced similar problem before
> .
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> delhi.org] On
> Behalf Of V Shekhar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:42 PM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> Manoj.
> 
> I suggest u change
> 
> 
> DSmailrelayerverip.com
> 
> to
> 
> DSMail.Relay.IPV4.ADDRESS
> 
> eg
> 
> DS192.168.100.1
> 
> and see if it works.
> 
> one point to note is, that ur ISP relay server shld allow u to relay
> 
> SMTP. (But it does not hv to do the problem u r facing now)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Warm Regards.
> - V SHEKHAR -
>  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:02 pm
> Subject: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> >
> 
> > Hi Shekhar,
> >
> 
> > Thanks for your concern dear  but still no luck
> >
> 
> > Here is wht is happening
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > if u do an nslookup...
> > 1.) does the query go to the primary Name server? {it shld go} yes
> >
> 
> > 2.) does it resolvce the domain?? {it shld resolve} yes
> >
> 
> > 3.) does it telnet (port 25)to the MX by IP address?? If by MX you
> 
> > meany relay server address then yes also to my own sever I am able
> 
> > to telnet
> > at port 25
> >
> 
> > 4.) Does it telnet (port 25) to the MX by FQDN?? FQDN??? Couldn't
> 
> > get it
> > m sorry
> >
> 
> > as I told you I made the following changes in sendmail.cf
> >
> 
> > DSmailrelayerverip.com
> > O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA
> > That is it
> > Is ther anything need to be changed in access domaintable .
> > Also I have put an entry in /etc/hosts
> >
> 
> > Saying my mailrelayserver name and ip thts it
> >
> 
> > Hope I am clear with my setup now.
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > delhi.org] On
> > Behalf Of V Shekhar
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:30 PM
> > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> > Subject: Re: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
> 
> > Manoj...
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Revery in case of problems.. and try yto be descriptive in
> 
> > answer.. or
> >
> 
> > else i dont hv any pointers ...
> >
> 
> > Warm Regards.
> > - V SHEKHAR -
> >  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:58 pm
> > Subject: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
> > > Still no luck
> > > Need Help !! :(
> > >
> >
> 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > delhi.org] On
> > > Behalf Of V Shekhar
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:40 PM
> > > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> > >
> >
> 
> > > sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly
> 
> > see if
> > >
> >
> 
> > > DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the
> 
> > domain, by
> > >
> >
> 
> > > issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.
> > >
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Warm Regards.
> > > - V SHEKHAR -
> > >  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> > >
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
> > > Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> > >
> >
> 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > Hi All,
> > > > I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> > > > I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> > > > I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> > > > Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> > > > Also the netstat shows like this
> > > > tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> > > > LISTEN
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it
> 
> > says> > connecting to abc.com via esmtp
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > and then says no route to host
> > > > even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > me in
> > > > this regard
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > manoj
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> > > > Confi

Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Mathur
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> "Mairu" == Mairu Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mairu> Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> So for example, we might have:
>> 
>> 1. Events and other announcements: subject tag
>> [announce]/[event] : topic - announce 2. Jobs/commercial:
>> subject tag [jobs]/[job]/[opening]/[commercial] : topic -
>> commercial 3.  General: topic - default
>> 
>> Any comments?
>> 
>> - Sandip

Mairu> Agreed, but a forum is an equally good idea, and a good
Mairu> forum will have all these features, but if we are not
Mairu> lookin there, this is probably welcome.

A forum is possible, but not on linux-delhi.org -- all the forum
software names that I've seen so far are riddled with security holes,
and I wouldn't want to make the server even more insecure than it is
presently.

If anyone would like to host a forum on a separate machine located
somewhere else, I'd be glad to (a) ask Nishikant to make a link to it
from the linux-delhi.org web site and (b) add forum.linux-delhi.org to
the DNS.

BTW, plans for an announce-only list are underway.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] rsh.... no tickets cashed

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Mathur
> "Manoj" == manoj thakkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Manoj> Hi All,

Manoj> I am facing a strange problem I just installed Rh 7.1 onmy
Manoj> system when I do rsh remote-server ls it says no lickets
Manoj> found and doesn't execute Looks like some problem with
Manoj> Kerberos But I don't want any Kerberos authentication So
Manoj> how to resolve it Kindly help

Use ssh.

Manoj> Confidentiality Notice

Manoj> The information contained in this electronic message and
Manoj> any attachments to this message are intended for the
Manoj> exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain
Manoj> confidential or privileged information. If you are not the
Manoj> intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or
Manoj> [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of
Manoj> this message and any attachments.

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[ilugd] please help me !!

2004-02-17 Thread MALKIAT BENIPAL




dear all,
 
At one of the PC I have installed win98/win2k/Mandrake 9.0. While installing Mandrake 
9.0  I have assigned to /boot a 10 MB space (/dev/hda7) and with the help of bootable 
floppy in /etc I compiled lilo and then issued the command as dd if=/dev/hda7 
of=bootsect.lnx count=1 bs=512 then copied this file to /mnt/win_c. Though linux is 
booted without any problem using win2k bootloader (boot.ini) but it takes 
approximately 4-5 minutes. But when I try to load the linux with the bootable floppy 
my same linux is booted within seconds. Please guide where I am making a mistake. I 
have installed linux twicely but of no avail. A valuable guide for this will be 
appreciable. 
 
in nutshell why booting linux from bootable floppy is fast whether from hard disk's 
boot sector ie. /dev/hda9 is slow.
 
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[ilugd] (fwd)

2004-02-17 Thread Raj Mathur
[Please CC replies to the original poster -- Raju]

This is an RFC 1153 digest.
(1 message)
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Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: hrishi k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:48:07 -0800 (PST)

hi,
   iam Hrishikesh, a student from 8th sem engg (comp sci) and an IEEE member. i wanted 
some of the hot topics on LINUX to give a seminar. so please forward the topics of 
intrest.
   thanks. 

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[ilugd] DLUG slashdotted

2004-02-17 Thread Pankaj Kaushal
hi,

linux-delhi.org has been slashdotted.
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/17/1654255&mode=thread&tid=106&tid=185&tid=99
raju may you have a happy holiday tomorrow.

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[ilugd] We are slashdotted - Indian Techies Answer About 'Onshore Insourcing'

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
[ Well roblimo has started off - one of his many promised articles is 
out. It is an interview with indian developers regarding questions that 
american/europian programmers, who are scared shit of outsourcing, would 
like to ask. - Sandip ]

http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/04/02/17/1654255.shtml?tid=106&tid=185&tid=99
Posted by Roblimo on Tuesday February 17, @01:15PM
This is an unusual Slashdot Interview, since instead of using email I 
asked all the questions in person last week either at LinuxAsia2004 or 
in casual meetings with local LUG members and other techies I met during 
the conference. Some of your questions were answered quite well by other 
Slashdot readers in the original post. (Slashdot has many readers both 
in and from India.) I also inserted a number of personal observations, 
which I usually don't do in these interviews, because it seemed to be 
the best way to answer some of the questions. And some questions were 
nearly unanswerable, as you'll see when you read the rest of this article.

[...]

[one of my favorite snippets ;) - Sandip ]

After a few evenings hanging out with Delhi LUG guys (and yes, it's 
almost entirely guys), I realized that you could hold a joint meeting of 
the Delhi LUG and the Suncoast LUG here in Florida, and the only major 
differences would be the brands of beer ordered for the first round. The 
biggest argument would be over whose beer is better, followed by the 
ever-popular vi vs. emacs and KDE vs. Gnome controversies. Raj, from the 
Delhi LUG, and Logan, from the Suncoast LUG, would probably become huge 
buddies in about two seconds. I swear, if I closed my eyes while 
listening to Raj's bad jokes, sometimes I thought he was Logan -- and I 
mean this as a compliment to both of them.

All the Delhi LUG crowd reads Slashdot. For the most part, they read the 
same science fiction books and watch the same movies as their U.S. 
counterparts. The ones who play guitar know pretty much the same songs 
-- and generally (*ahem*) play with the same great skill -- as Rob Malda.

And the unmarried ones had the same complaints about never meeting 
appropriate girls, too.

[...]

- Sandip



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RE: [ilugd] Updating linux-delhi.org website

2004-02-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

Also Kindly upload the PICS of Newbie meet (Dec. 2003).

Thanks and Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva

>>Can someone Please take some initiative to update linux-delhi.org with
current LinuxAsia2004 pics.


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RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva




>>>sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain

This is the case when the mail server is unable to send mails on a
single domain and its working perfect on other domains.

 
## but when I try sending mail to *anywhere* outside say abc.com it says
## connecting to abc.com via esmtp


Then DNS may not be the prime issue rather relaying can be a problem.
Contact your ISP, if they have properly given a relay to your IPs.

Or you can make your own SMTP server without using the ISP one.

Edit /etc/sendmail.cf and change 127.0.0.1 --> Public IP
And vi /etc/mail/relay-domains and give the IP block of your network.
You can use this as your SMTP server.

HTH...

BR,
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Re: [ilugd] kenel programming book?

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which is the best book for kernel programming?And how can I get it?


Read books in this order:

1. Design of the Unix operating system/Operating systems: design and 
implementation by tanenbaum
2. Understanding the unix kernel - oreilly
3. Linux device drivers 2nd edition - oreilly

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mairu Gupta wrote:


Agreed, but a forum is an equally good idea, and a good forum will have all 
these features, but if we are not lookin there, this is probably welcome.

The problem with forum is that it will try to split the readers - one 
would either read the mails or read the forum  - people dont have time 
for both.

many people prefer to use mails for various reasons - one of which is 
that it is more bandwidth friendly. You leave the mail client on and it 
keeps downloading the mails. You come back later and read it off your 
hard disk!

See, there is no problem of trying it out. Get raj to hand over 
something like forums.linux-delhi.org and install phpbb on it and see. 
There is no harm in trying to get a bigger audience.

BTW, if access to the list archive is what is bothering you, take a look 
at the gmane archives of the list - one of the best interfaces of list 
mail archives.

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] kenel programming book?

2004-02-17 Thread vivek khurana

--- Sachin Rastogi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Hi Buddy,
> 
>   1.If you are interested in learning the kernel
> programming in linux, u can
> go through the below linkIn this book he
> explains the kernel as a
> programmers point of view.
> 
>   http://www.xml.com/ldd/chapter/book/

 Hey, this book is about writting device drivers
which, i belive is not sachin wanted to know.
Correct me if i am wrong.

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Re: [ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Mairu Gupta

Quoting Sandip Bhattacharya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> So for example, we might have:
> 
> 1. Events and other announcements:
> subject tag [announce]/[event] : topic - announce
> 2. Jobs/commercial:
> subject tag [jobs]/[job]/[opening]/[commercial] : topic - commercial
> 3.  General: topic - default
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> - Sandip


Agreed, but a forum is an equally good idea, and a good forum will have all 
these features, but if we are not lookin there, this is probably welcome.


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Re: [ilugd] rsh.... no tickets cashed

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,

I am facing a strange problem
I just installed Rh 7.1 onmy system when I do rsh remote-server ls it
says no lickets found and doesn't execute
Looks like some problem with Kerberos
But I don't want any Kerberos authentication
So how to resolve it
Kindly help
That is because the kerberos enabled clients are getting invoked before 
the regular ones. If you dont use kerberos, remove the krb5-workstation 
package from your system:
e.g.
  rpm -e krb5-workstation

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[ilugd] Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
A common problem that came out at linuxasia was that some of the people 
(like sirtaj) wanted to know about events happening in ilugd, but on the 
other hand did not want to receive mails about the regular 
problem/solution topics that we have anyday. According to these people 
an [EMAIL PROTECTED] address would help them keep up 
with events happening at ilugd.

Since our mailing list is based on mailman anyway, I was wondering if we 
could try the topic feature of mailman for this purpose instead of 
having another mailing list. If all announcement mails have a [announce] 
 tag in the subject line, then mailman can be instructed to classify 
them as a separate topic. List subscribers, who wants to receive such 
mails can they go to the mailman interface, and select the topics that 
they are interested in.

So for example, we might have:

1. Events and other announcements:
   subject tag [announce]/[event] : topic - announce
2. Jobs/commercial:
   subject tag [jobs]/[job]/[opening]/[commercial] : topic - commercial
3.  General: topic - default
Any comments?

- Sandip



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[ilugd] rsh.... no tickets cashed

2004-02-17 Thread manoj.thakkar

Hi All,

I am facing a strange problem
I just installed Rh 7.1 onmy system when I do rsh remote-server ls it
says no lickets found and doesn't execute
Looks like some problem with Kerberos
But I don't want any Kerberos authentication
So how to resolve it
Kindly help



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Re: [ilugd] Kernel version

2004-02-17 Thread Arjun Asthana
On Monday 16 February 2004 13:43, you wrote:
> > which version of redhat linux has kernel version less than 2.4.4 ?
> > as redhat 8 has version 2.4.18 .
>
> not sure , but i think redhat linux 7.3 has 2.4.4 .
> but you can download it from http://kernel.org  and recompile it easily.

How can that be? I run redhat 7.2 and "uname -r" gives me 2.4.7-10.

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RE: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread manoj.thakkar

Hi shekhar

Still no luck

My ISP allow me to relay as m able to telnet at port 25 of their relay
server from my m/c

What to do ??? anyone who has faced similar problem before
.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of V Shekhar
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:42 PM
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

Manoj.

I suggest u change

DSmailrelayerverip.com

to

DSMail.Relay.IPV4.ADDRESS

eg
DS192.168.100.1

and see if it works.

one point to note is, that ur ISP relay server shld allow u to relay
SMTP. (But it does not hv to do the problem u r facing now)




Warm Regards.
 - V SHEKHAR -
  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:02 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

>
> Hi Shekhar,
>
> Thanks for your concern dear  but still no luck
>
> Here is wht is happening
>
>
> if u do an nslookup...
> 1.) does the query go to the primary Name server? {it shld go} yes
>
> 2.) does it resolvce the domain?? {it shld resolve} yes
>
> 3.) does it telnet (port 25)to the MX by IP address?? If by MX you
> meany relay server address then yes also to my own sever I am able
> to telnet
> at port 25
>
> 4.) Does it telnet (port 25) to the MX by FQDN?? FQDN??? Couldn't
> get it
> m sorry
>
> as I told you I made the following changes in sendmail.cf
>
> DSmailrelayerverip.com
> O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA
> That is it
> Is ther anything need to be changed in access domaintable .
> Also I have put an entry in /etc/hosts
>
> Saying my mailrelayserver name and ip thts it
>
> Hope I am clear with my setup now.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> delhi.org] On
> Behalf Of V Shekhar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:30 PM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: Re: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
>
> Manoj...
>
>
> Revery in case of problems.. and try yto be descriptive in
> answer.. or
>
> else i dont hv any pointers ...
>
> Warm Regards.
> - V SHEKHAR -
>  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:58 pm
> Subject: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
>
> >
>
> > Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
> > Still no luck
> > Need Help !! :(
> >
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > delhi.org] On
> > Behalf Of V Shekhar
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:40 PM
> > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
>
> > sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly
> see if
> >
>
> > DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the
> domain, by
> >
>
> > issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.
> >
>
> >
>
> > Warm Regards.
> > - V SHEKHAR -
> >  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> >
>
> >
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
> > Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
>
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> >
>
> > > Hi All,
> > > I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> > > I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> > > I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> > > Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> > > Also the netstat shows like this
> > > tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> > > LISTEN
> > >
> >
>
> > > but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it
> says> > connecting to abc.com via esmtp
> > >
> >
>
> > > and then says no route to host
> > > even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
> > >
> >
>
> > > Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help
> >
>
> > > me in
> > > this regard
> > >
> >
>
> > > Thanks
> > > manoj
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[ilugd] [News] An analysis of SCO's financial and legal position

2004-02-17 Thread Manish Sharma
Interesting and informative analysis of SCO's financial and legal position:
http://www.itmanagersjournal.com/management/04/02/15/2152249.shtml (it's
rather longish)


...
There are risks to the stock price. Litigation can be long-winded and
expensive, and the financial outcomes (i.e., awards or settlements) are
difficult to predict. Take, for instance, SCO Group's lawsuit against 
IBM, which has deep pockets and could have considerable "litigation stamina"
against just about any company. The SCO versus IBM lawsuit might not go
away anytime soon. As the SCO versus IBM lawsuit is currently in the 
discovery process -- and the view of legal colleagues of mine is that 
this process could continue until April 11, 2005 -- the date when the jury
trial is scheduled to start. In addition, if SCO Group's various lawsuits 
were to result in reduced demand for Linux, from both current and potentially
new large enterprise customers, then that could be negative for Linux-related
stocks such as SCOX.
...
SCO is making assertions to end-users of Linux that version 2.4 and above 
contains various copyright-protected material of SCO's. In its letter 
dated Dec. 19, 2003 to end-users, the company has initially identified a
series of ABI "header files" that are used in compiling Linux. UNIX Systems 
Labs (a division of AT&T that owned the rights to UNIX at one point)
spearheaded an effort to help standardize UNIX applications through an 
Application Binary Interface (ABI) effort. In order to make application 
writing easier, a series of variables were defined in header files used by
programmers developing UNIX applications. SCO claims that 43 header files used
in Linux are identical as UNIX but have not been contributed by the company
and should not be in the Linux distribution. By itself, these header files
do not, in my opinion, create an insurmountable obstacle to be replaced over
time, but significant laborious effort would have to be made to work around
the use of these header files.
...
In return for its discovery documents, SCO has asked IBM for a huge amount of
information. First, SCO has asked for the source code to all versions of the
operating systems AIX and Dynix, two UNIX versions created and distributed by
IBM. Second, SCO wants details of all modifications IBM has made since 1985
to the present, together with all of IBM's R&D records and notes pertaining
to the development of the software. Third, SCO also wants a detailed and 
itemized list of all contributions IBM has ever made to Linux, irrespective 
of whether the contributed code ever made it into the Linux kernel. Fourth, 
SCO has asked for the names of more than 7,200 current and former IBM employees
who did have (or who even might have had) access to code that SCO claims 
infringes upon its copyright protection on USV. Absent a settlement, this 
treasure hunt should keep the folks at IBM busy scurrying around and delay any 
productive or sensible resolution to the SCO suit for a long while.
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Re: [ilugd] GPG on pine

2004-02-17 Thread Rishabh Manocha
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thanks a lot for the link...this is exactly the kind of thing i was
looking for.
- --Rishabh

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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Arindam Dey wrote:

> On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 13:12, Rishabh Manocha wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > hello all,
> > I(and many others on my LAN) use pine to check our mail...i was recently
> > handed the assingment to incorparate gpg onto our system to verify/encrypt
> > e-mails.
> > i can configure gpg to work with every mail reader including pine which
> > does not have inbuild support for pgp/gpg.
> > i have tried two plugins...MagicPGP and PGP4PINE.both work good(though
> > pgp4pine is better).however there is one thing i cant seem to work
> > out...how to make pine(or pgp4pine or magicpgp) cache my passphrase so
> > that it does not ask for one everytime i try sending a mail.
> > mutt does it and so do many of the graphical mail clients..i dont know or
> > see why pine would not.
>
> Try this
>
> http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/
>
> I have not used it personally but was going through it and it claims to
> cater to your particular requirement under "Other Features". I am sure
> some other regular pine users on the list will come up with far better
> suggestions than this. You may also like to see the section labeled
> "Other Software". It has a few other options.
>
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Re: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread V Shekhar
Manoj.

I suggest u change 

DSmailrelayerverip.com

to

DSMail.Relay.IPV4.ADDRESS

eg 
DS192.168.100.1

and see if it works.

one point to note is, that ur ISP relay server shld allow u to relay 
SMTP. (But it does not hv to do the problem u r facing now)




Warm Regards.
 - V SHEKHAR -
  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:02 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

> 
> Hi Shekhar,
> 
> Thanks for your concern dear  but still no luck
> 
> Here is wht is happening
> 
> 
> if u do an nslookup...
> 1.) does the query go to the primary Name server? {it shld go} yes
> 
> 2.) does it resolvce the domain?? {it shld resolve} yes
> 
> 3.) does it telnet (port 25)to the MX by IP address?? If by MX you 
> meany relay server address then yes also to my own sever I am able 
> to telnet
> at port 25
> 
> 4.) Does it telnet (port 25) to the MX by FQDN?? FQDN??? Couldn't 
> get it
> m sorry
> 
> as I told you I made the following changes in sendmail.cf
> 
> DSmailrelayerverip.com
> O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA
> That is it
> Is ther anything need to be changed in access domaintable .
> Also I have put an entry in /etc/hosts
> 
> Saying my mailrelayserver name and ip thts it
> 
> Hope I am clear with my setup now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> delhi.org] On
> Behalf Of V Shekhar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:30 PM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: Re: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> Manoj...
> 
> 
> Revery in case of problems.. and try yto be descriptive in 
> answer.. or
> 
> else i dont hv any pointers ...
> 
> Warm Regards.
> - V SHEKHAR -
>  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:58 pm
> Subject: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> >
> 
> > Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
> > Still no luck
> > Need Help !! :(
> >
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > delhi.org] On
> > Behalf Of V Shekhar
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:40 PM
> > To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
> 
> > sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly 
> see if
> >
> 
> > DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the 
> domain, by
> >
> 
> > issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Warm Regards.
> > - V SHEKHAR -
> >  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
> > Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Hi All,
> > > I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> > > I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> > > I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> > > Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> > > Also the netstat shows like this
> > > tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> > > LISTEN
> > >
> >
> 
> > > but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it 
> says> > connecting to abc.com via esmtp
> > >
> >
> 
> > > and then says no route to host
> > > even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help
> >
> 
> > > me in
> > > this regard
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Thanks
> > > manoj
> > >
> >
> 
> > > Confidentiality Notice
> > >
> >
> 
> > >
> >
> 
> > > The information contained in this electronic message and any
> >
> 
> > > attachments to this message are intended
> > > for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain
> >
> 
> > > confidential or privileged information. If
> > > you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at
> >
> 
> > > Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately
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[ilugd] Updating linux-delhi.org website

2004-02-17 Thread Yashpal Nagar
Dear All,

  Can someone Please take some initiative to update linux-delhi.org 
with current LinuxAsia2004 pics.
Still anyone can see the 2 years old Banglore IT.com event on TOP.

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[ilugd] Gna!, A New Host for Libre Software Development

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RE: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread manoj.thakkar

Hi Shekhar,

Thanks for your concern dear  but still no luck
Here is wht is happening


if u do an nslookup...
1.) does the query go to the primary Name server? {it shld go} yes

2.) does it resolvce the domain?? {it shld resolve} yes

3.) does it telnet (port 25)to the MX by IP address?? If by MX you mean
y relay server address then yes also to my own sever I am able to telnet
at port 25

4.) Does it telnet (port 25) to the MX by FQDN?? FQDN??? Couldn't get it
m sorry

as I told you I made the following changes in sendmail.cf

DSmailrelayerverip.com
O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA
That is it
Is ther anything need to be changed in access domaintable .
Also I have put an entry in /etc/hosts
Saying my mailrelayserver name and ip thts it

Hope I am clear with my setup now.




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Manoj...


Revery in case of problems.. and try yto be descriptive in answer.. or
else i dont hv any pointers ...

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>
> Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
> Still no luck
> Need Help !! :(
>
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> sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly see if
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> DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the domain, by
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> > I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> > I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> > I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> > Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> > Also the netstat shows like this
> > tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> > LISTEN
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> > even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
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Re: [ilugd] Re: Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Supreet Sethi
Tarun has spoken the golden words. 

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[ilugd] Re: Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

> Buy crossover office (http://www.codeweavers.com) ($60) and install the
> client in it. This is the Lotus/IBM recommended method of using the
> client on linux.

Scenario 1:
Company uses Linux(or GNU/Linux)
Employee wants to use Windows 
Advice: Employee can pay for License and use it and needs to figure out if
all Linux services will work on it. 
( As an example try locating an NIS client for the latest version of Windows
which apart from accessing file and print services would also know what to
do with other maps esp. ethers amongst others, I am assuming a sadistic
System Admin who has turned off arp interfaces on the servers )

Scenario 2:
Company uses Windows
Advice: Employee can use Linux but needs to buy proprietary software 
to use some of the services on the primarily proprietary software 
based network.

Advice:
Continue to use Windows, install Cygwin and Free 
Software from GNUWinII and wait till you are able to use the proprietary
software based network services.

Supplying the necessary material for a potentially explosive flamewar and
watching from sidelines.
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Re: [ilugd] Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mejo Jose wrote:
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

Mejo Jose wrote:

Does anyone knows to run Lotus Notes client 6.5 on Linux?? I am 
forced to use windows at office because our company uses Lotus.

Buy crossover office (http://www.codeweavers.com) ($60) and install 
the client in it. This is the Lotus/IBM recommended method of using 
the client on linux.


I tried Crossover office and wine on Fedora, but failed! Is Fedora 
supported?

Lotus notes client is the most used app on CO.

http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/requirements/ doesnt 
mention any distro specific dependency. What exaclty do you mean by 
saying that it has failed?

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Mejo Jose
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

Mejo Jose wrote:

Does anyone knows to run Lotus Notes client 6.5 on Linux?? I am forced 
to use windows at office because our company uses Lotus.

Buy crossover office (http://www.codeweavers.com) ($60) and install the 
client in it. This is the Lotus/IBM recommended method of using the 
client on linux.
I tried Crossover office and wine on Fedora, but failed! Is Fedora 
supported?

Mejo
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Re: [ilugd] Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Mejo Jose wrote:
Does anyone knows to run Lotus Notes client 6.5 on Linux?? I am forced 
to use windows at office because our company uses Lotus.

Buy crossover office (http://www.codeweavers.com) ($60) and install the 
client in it. This is the Lotus/IBM recommended method of using the 
client on linux.

About the middle of this year, Lotus will be releasing a java only 
client for lotus notes, and you will thus be able to run the app 
"natively" on linux.

- Sandip

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Re: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread V Shekhar
Manoj...
if u do an nslookup...
1.) does the query go to the primary Name server? {it shld go}

2.) does it resolvce the domain?? {it shld resolve}

3.) does it telnet (port 25)to the MX by IP address??

4.) Does it telnet (port 25) to the MX by FQDN??

all answers shld be yes..

Revery in case of problems.. and try yto be descriptive in answer.. or 
else i dont hv any pointers ...

Warm Regards.
 - V SHEKHAR -
  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:58 pm
Subject: RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

> 
> Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
> Still no luck
> Need Help !! :(
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> delhi.org] On
> Behalf Of V Shekhar
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
> Subject: Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly see if
> 
> DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the domain, by
> 
> issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.
> 
> 
> Warm Regards.
> - V SHEKHAR -
>  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
> Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> > Hi All,
> > I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> > I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> > I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> > Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> > Also the netstat shows like this
> > tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> > LISTEN
> >
> 
> > but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says
> > connecting to abc.com via esmtp
> >
> 
> > and then says no route to host
> > even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
> >
> 
> > Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help
> 
> > me in
> > this regard
> >
> 
> > Thanks
> > manoj
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RE: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread manoj.thakkar

Hi I checked /etc/resolv.conf put my local domain there
Still no luck
Need Help !! :(

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Subject: Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly see if
DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the domain, by
issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.


Warm Regards.
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  Tel : 040-23553343 ext 285


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

>
>
> Hi All,
> I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> Also the netstat shows like this
> tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> LISTEN
>
> but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says
> connecting to abc.com via esmtp
>
> and then says no route to host
> even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
>
> Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help
> me in
> this regard
>
> Thanks
> manoj
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Re: [ilugd] cyberoam on linux

2004-02-17 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Anil Wadhawan wrote:
  Hi PG
  Cyber oam is not a freeware exactly It is a professional software Copy
Rights with
  24 Online.com This company provides such softwares for corporates and
cable ISP's so if you are impressed by the product quality you have to pay
them rs 40,000 for installation and Rs 75,000 appx for support.
  If you are looking for such software you can mail me your requirements and
we can give you much cheaper option.
The person is not looking for the cyberoam server - just the client. The 
shabby windows client has a much better linux version which happens to 
be completely open source. It is perfectly legal, IMHO, to use such a 
client when you have a proper cyberoam account.

Try http://linc.sourceforge.net

- Sandip

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[ilugd] Lotus Notes on Linux!

2004-02-17 Thread Mejo Jose
Does anyone knows to run Lotus Notes client 6.5 on Linux?? I am forced 
to use windows at office because our company uses Lotus.

Thanks & Regards,

Mejo Jose
http://linux.mejokj.com
Raj Shekhar wrote:

Mejo Jose wrote:

I searched the whole internet for days to find a way to make Lotus Notes
to run on Linux. I even mailed IBM asking for a solution. But nothing
worked for me.


Have you tried running Lotus  Notes on Crossover Office ?

Yes. I tried it on Fedora Core1. But didn't work for me! :( I tried 
mailing them, but there was no reply. I personally talked to some guys 
at IBM and even they were not able to run linux at their office machines 
 because of this!! Hopefully, Lotus will port the Lotus Notes client to 
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Re: [ilugd] cyberoam on linux

2004-02-17 Thread Anil Wadhawan
  Hi PG
  Cyber oam is not a freeware exactly It is a professional software Copy
Rights with
  24 Online.com This company provides such softwares for corporates and
cable ISP's so if you are impressed by the product quality you have to pay
them rs 40,000 for installation and Rs 75,000 appx for support.
  If you are looking for such software you can mail me your requirements and
we can give you much cheaper option.

  Thanks & Regards
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  Cogitans.
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  hello everypne, can anyone please tell me is there a redhat linux 9.0
compatible version of cyberoam client (the employee internet usage manager)?
  i tried to get it from the net , but the versions that i got are not
working,
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Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread Anil Wadhawan
  Hi Manoj
  Do you have any firewall installed at your network. And also check the DNS
entries.

  Thanks & Regards
  Sukhdev Singh Seera
  Cogitans.
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  Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(




  Hi All,
  I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
  I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
  I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
  Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
  Also the netstat shows like this
  tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
  LISTEN

  but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says
  connecting to abc.com via esmtp
  and then says no route to host
  even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same

  Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help me in
  this regard

  Thanks
  manoj

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Re: [ilugd] clustered server configuration (linux)

2004-02-17 Thread Anil Wadhawan
  Hi Mukesh You called me regarding the clusture problem but I was busy
driving at that time. I was expecting your call after two hours yesterday.
If you still have any query you can call me.


  Thanks & Regards
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  Subject: [ilugd] clustered server configuration (linux)


  >
  > Dear All,
  >
  > Can anybody, pls let me know where I can get the
  > transaction processing performance statistics in
  > a clustered linux server configuration?
  >
  >
  > The statistics required are such that performance
  > data is gathered based the timeline when a new box
  > is added.
  >
  > I've some info from www.ameinfo.com
  >
  > But this data is not sufficient for a clustered unit
  > where the system has more than 8 boxes supporting the
  > application.
  >
  > The application can be assumed to be supported by Oracle
  > at backend.
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Re: [ilugd] First cut Photos!

2004-02-17 Thread Pankaj Kaushal
Robin 'Roblimo' Miller wrote:
[snip]
One photo I don't see but would dearly love to publish (for humor value) 
is the one of "colorful native headgear" taken outside restaurant...

Thanks to all for major hospitality.

- Robin
its the last photo from raju's camera.
avaliable at http://www.linux-delhi.org/pics/events/22/dscf0063.jpg
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Re: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread V Shekhar
sendmail is unable to get the MX record of the domain, kindly see if 
DNS is properly configured, and you can get the MX for the domain, by 
issuing NSLOOKUP command on the mailserver.


Warm Regards.
 - V SHEKHAR -
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Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:38 pm
Subject: [ilugd] sendmail problem :(

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> 
> Hi All,
> I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
> I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
> I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
> Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
> Also the netstat shows like this
> tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
> LISTEN
> 
> but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says
> connecting to abc.com via esmtp
> 
> and then says no route to host
> even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same
> 
> Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help 
> me in
> this regard
> 
> Thanks
> manoj
> 
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[ilugd] sendmail problem :(

2004-02-17 Thread manoj.thakkar


Hi All,
I am stuck with a strange problemin sendmail
I m trying to send mail on internet using sendmail
I have put my ISP mail relay server in DS tab of sendmail.cf
Also m able to telnet the relay server from my m/c at port 25
Also the netstat shows like this
tcp0  0 *:smtp  *:*
LISTEN

but when I try sending mail to anywhere outside say abc.com it says
connecting to abc.com via esmtp
and then says no route to host
even a mail to the mail relay server domain says the same

Is there anyone who has configured sendmail earlier and can help me in
this regard

Thanks
manoj

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