[ilugd] sound card driver needed
i have an Hp compaq d330 machine(intel chipset i820) and a suse linux 7.3 platform. i cannot find the sound card driver for the same... can anyone send me the driver or tell me the exact site from where i can get the same for it thnx in advance.. harsh Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] sound card als4000 in redhat 9.0
On Saturday 28 Feb 2004 5:56 pm, Dips wrote: | I'm pradeep, I have installed redhat 9.0 it has | detected my sound card as avance logic als4000 PCI | card but says probe fails, don't understand why. Can | anyone tell me that how gonna configure my sound card, | please its very urgent. I have a als-4000 card and it works fine with the kernel 2.6.x and 2.4.x with alsa... the only thing i had to do was do add my user to the audio group which i did by ( # modprobe snd-als4000 ) ( # modprobe snd-pcm-oss ) # adduser warren audio And it worked. The ALS-4000 Sound Card is fully supported by Linux. Regards, Warren Brian Noronha. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Need help on linux clustering See Introducing openMosix at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/02/19/openmosix.html There is a book on clustering by O'reilly publishers (search their catalog), but it has not received a very good review. You may also check out the openMosix project for more links. How many PCs are you planning to cluster ? If you are in Delhi would it be possible for me to come and see the cluster when it is done ? Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended Gmane archives these messages. I doubt you would be able to persuade them to make an exception for your case. HTH -- \°°/ (oo) +ooO-- -Ooo-+ |Raj Shekhar |My home: | |System Administrator|http://geocities.com/lunatech3007 | |Media Web India |My blog: | |http://www.netphotograph.com|http://lunatech.journalspace.com | +---+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
How about having a ilugd meet on Securing your linux boxes, and how about conducting it this month??? Awesome Idea! Raj, Kishore or any one who is into seurity, please volunteer to speak. Can any one come up with practical implementations and some live examples of security in Linux? It would be a treat for me :-) BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
Are we only talking securing your linux boxes only or even linux security tools too for network security/management? Regards, Akshay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gurpreet Singh Sachdeva Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:31 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet How about having a ilugd meet on Securing your linux boxes, and how about conducting it this month??? Awesome Idea! Raj, Kishore or any one who is into seurity, please volunteer to speak. Can any one come up with practical implementations and some live examples of security in Linux? It would be a treat for me :-) BR, GSS ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] problem - urgent
hi if anyone of u people has worked on RPC's can u please frame a small C code that uses the call gss_oid_to_str(). i have not worked on RPCs so if u can pls its urgent thnx harsh Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: problem - urgent
At 2004-03-03 10:41:54 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi if anyone of u people has worked on RPC's can u please frame a small C code that uses the call gss_oid_to_str(). Did you ask Google about gss_oid_to_str? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
Hi Manoj R U Intrested in learning or require a machine. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering Hi all, Need help on linux clustering Any docs discussing how to setup and some basics will be appreciable Thanks Manoj Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
--- Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we only talking securing your linux boxes only or even linux security tools too for network security/management? We can have both. - Vivek Ps: Avoid Top Post = # # ### # # # # # # Linux##v## Rules! ## vvv ## # ## ## ## ### ### +++# ##++ ++# #++ +++# #+++ +###+ +++ +++ Message void if penguin violated Don't mess with the penguin Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
--- Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we only talking securing your linux boxes only or even linux security tools too for network security/management? We can have both. me too ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
--- Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we only talking securing your linux boxes only or even linux security tools too for network security/management? We can have both. me too --Ritesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
At 2004-03-02 19:28:39 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raj, Kishore or any one who is into seurity, please volunteer to speak. Depending on when this is, and what other people are speaking about, I could conceivably talk about iptables/netfilter. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
Depending on when this is, and what other people are speaking about, I could conceivably talk about iptables/netfilter. That brings the count to two. Viksit and ams. -- Vivek __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] yeah googled the thing but..................
but the links are showing only the details for the call.. but no usage i need it urgently that'w why i do not have time to read the same .. if i can get it pls harsh --- Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2004-03-03 10:41:54 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi if anyone of u people has worked on RPC's can u please frame a small C code that uses the call gss_oid_to_str(). Did you ask Google about gss_oid_to_str? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
visit the site http://www.lcic.org/ for information on linux clustering and relpy if u get any help harsh --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Need help on linux clustering Any docs discussing how to setup and some basics will be appreciable Thanks Manoj Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
I have to setup a cluster environment here in office for my project purpose so need help for the same. I google and found tht I need to install some cluster compitable kernel Also some very useful info. As per me at http://www.fysik.dtu.dk/CAMP/cluster-howto.html is ther anyone whi has worked kindly spend some time to go thru the link and see m I going in right direction. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anil Wadhawan Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:28 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering Hi Manoj R U Intrested in learning or require a machine. Thanks Regards Sukhdev Singh Seera Cogitans. M: +91 9811154380 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering Hi all, Need help on linux clustering Any docs discussing how to setup and some basics will be appreciable Thanks Manoj Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender at Wipro or [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Gaim Update?
hi it has been over a month that there's no update in Gaim project (http:// gaim.sourceforge.net). #gaim at irc.freenode.net gives a message #gaim:You need to be identified to join that channel tried to download the cvs version according to the procedure mentioned in http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php cvs -d ':pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim' login and it gives the following error - [EMAIL PROTECTED] vivek]$ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ cvsroot/gaim login Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gaim CVS password: cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) - now if anyone can guide me on how to download gaim cvs so that i have Yahoo! working? as of now i'm not looking for alternatives, but only gaim thanks for any help -- \|||/ (o o) ooO-(_)-Ooo- | vivek| GPG Key:| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://exain.net/vike | || | Registered Linux User: #305493 | ( _ ) _| | | |_ (___| |___) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: yeah googled the thing but..................
At 2004-03-03 12:27:10 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but the links are showing only the details for the call.. but no usage The _first_ hit on Google for gss_oid_to_str example is: http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/816-1331/6m7oo9sng?a=view i need it urgently that'w why i do not have time to read the same .. if i can get it pls Uh, you need it urgently, so rather than finding out for yourself, you wait for people on a mailing list to tell you? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Gaim Update?
I checked out from CVS using the same commands as provided on the website and was able to download the code completely on 1st March, 2004. Also the Yahoo problem seems to be fixed in CVS since I am able to use it without any hacks. Mithun --- vivek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi it has been over a month that there's no update in Gaim project (http:// gaim.sourceforge.net). #gaim at irc.freenode.net gives a message #gaim:You need to be identified to join that channel tried to download the cvs version according to the procedure mentioned in http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php cvs -d ':pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gaim' login and it gives the following error - [EMAIL PROTECTED] vivek]$ cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ cvsroot/gaim login Logging in to :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gaim CVS password: cvs [login aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] need help on linux clustering
Even u can find some info here . http://yara.ecn.purdue.edu/~pplinux/PPHOWTO/pphowto-3.html http://ece.clemson.edu/parl/grendel.htm http://www.beowulf.org/beowulf/projects.html http://www.linuxhpc.org/ http://www.ram.org/computing/linux/linux_cluster.html#toc3.3 http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/beowulf_book/ Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Need help on linux clustering See Introducing openMosix at http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/02/19/openmosix.html There is a book on clustering by O'reilly publishers (search their catalog), but it has not received a very good review. You may also check out the openMosix project for more links. How many PCs are you planning to cluster ? If you are in Delhi would it be possible for me to come and see the cluster when it is done ? Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended Gmane archives these messages. I doubt you would be able to persuade them to make an exception for your case. HTH -- \°°/ (oo) +ooO-- -Ooo-+ |Raj Shekhar |My home: | |System Administrator |http://geocities.com/lunatech3007 | |Media Web India |My blog: | |http://www.netphotograph.com|http://lunatech.journalspace.com | +---+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of vivek khurana Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 5:29 PM To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet Depending on when this is, and what other people are speaking about, I could conceivably talk about iptables/netfilter. That brings the count to two. Viksit and ams. Depending on when and where count me in too. I can cover usage of security tools in linux - nessus, ntop, nmap, distro called phlak. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [Possibly OT] About the GNOME 'Foot' logo
Hi, Could anyone provide details on a company http://e-aim.com ? They seem to be using the GNOME 'foot' logo without prior permission and causing some consternation at the GNOME Foundation. Please do so offlist if you so desire Warm regards Sankarshan Collecting data is only the first step towards wisdom, but sharing data is the first step towards community - Henry Louis Gates Jr. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.601 / Virus Database: 382 - Release Date: 02/29/2004 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
I can cover usage of security tools in linux - nessus, ntop, nmap, distro called phlak Is there any volunteer for 'John the Ripper'? I tried it once but was not successful... I am dieing to have that Cherry :o( ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] HELP WITH JAVA VM PLUGIN
I have been trying to get the JAVA VM plugin setup but have not been successful. The steps I've done are as follows:- 1. COPIED THE .bin FILE IN THE /usr AND RAN IT AS ./j2sdk1.4.bin 2. vi /root/.bashrc AND CREATED THE FOLLOWING VARIABLES JAVA_HOME=/usr/j2sdk1.4.1_03 PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:PATH export JAVA_HOME But I still have not been able to succeed. Can anyone help please. Thanks ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Suggestion for ilugd meet
vivek == vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vivek --- Akshay Lamba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we only talking securing your linux boxes only or even linux security tools too for network security/management? vivek We can have both. I volunteer to give a talk on GnuPG. g,dr -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Possibly OT] About the GNOME 'Foot' logo
Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote: Hi, Could anyone provide details on a company http://e-aim.com ? They seem to be using the GNOME 'foot' logo without prior permission and causing some consternation at the GNOME Foundation. Maybe you can ask Macromedia to help you out. ;) Looking at the source of their site, they most probably use two different versions of Dreamweaver to create their site. Also notice the really fineprinted keywords in the right hand bottom. These kinds of search engine optimization is so low, I only thought certain socially objectionable sites did that. ;) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] HELP WITH JAVA VM PLUGIN
just wanted to say that if you want a plugin of java in mozilla then you dont have to copy the plugin from the jre directory...instead you have to make a symbolic link...you can read up on this at:http://plugindoc.mozdev.org. just do: ln -s /fullpathtoplugin/libjavaplugin.so /mozilla_plugin_directory giving the full path to the java plugin is important even if you are in the direcory where the plugin is located. hope this helps. --Rishabh -- Rishabh Manocha http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/rmanocha **Your Quote for the day** The German originates it, the French imitate it and the Englishman exploits it German saying ** On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Prashant Kulkarni wrote: I have been trying to get the JAVA VM plugin setup but have not been successful. The steps I've done are as follows:- 1. COPIED THE .bin FILE IN THE /usr AND RAN IT AS ./j2sdk1.4.bin 2. vi /root/.bashrc AND CREATED THE FOLLOWING VARIABLES JAVA_HOME=/usr/j2sdk1.4.1_03 PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:PATH export JAVA_HOME First of all, do you want to install the SDK/VM or just the plugin? Secondly which .bin are you talking about? The one you downloaded from the sun site? If the .bin file is named .bin, run the command sh .bin. This will ask your to agree to a licence and then extract the j2sdk RPM for you. Install this rpm using rpm -ivh. After installation, edit the file /etc/profile and add the lines you mentioned at the end. Also, there is a slight modification to the PATH you have used above. $JAVA_HOME is going to be set to /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_03 If you want to install the Java browser plugin, copy the appropriate plugin file from the plugins directory in $JAVA_HOME/jre/plugin/i386 ( or something similar). For example on my system, the file that is to be copied to the mozilla plugin directory is /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_02/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so - Sandip P.S. A plug. Check out the Java Users Group - Delhi mailing list for other Java specific queries. http://www.jug-delhi.org -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] HELP WITH JAVA VM PLUGIN
Prashant Kulkarni wrote: I have been trying to get the JAVA VM plugin setup but have not been successful. The steps I've done are as follows:- 1. COPIED THE .bin FILE IN THE /usr AND RAN IT AS ./j2sdk1.4.bin 2. vi /root/.bashrc AND CREATED THE FOLLOWING VARIABLES JAVA_HOME=/usr/j2sdk1.4.1_03 PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:PATH export JAVA_HOME First of all, do you want to install the SDK/VM or just the plugin? Secondly which .bin are you talking about? The one you downloaded from the sun site? If the .bin file is named .bin, run the command sh .bin. This will ask your to agree to a licence and then extract the j2sdk RPM for you. Install this rpm using rpm -ivh. After installation, edit the file /etc/profile and add the lines you mentioned at the end. Also, there is a slight modification to the PATH you have used above. $JAVA_HOME is going to be set to /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.1_03 If you want to install the Java browser plugin, copy the appropriate plugin file from the plugins directory in $JAVA_HOME/jre/plugin/i386 ( or something similar). For example on my system, the file that is to be copied to the mozilla plugin directory is /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_02/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so - Sandip P.S. A plug. Check out the Java Users Group - Delhi mailing list for other Java specific queries. http://www.jug-delhi.org -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [long] top posting, thread hijacking and other evils
Hello Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Good to see you disciplining people about this obnoxious practice, but I think you can save yourself some trouble, by copying your standard Don't hijack a thread!!! content to a FAQ entry on the site, and giving the URL instead. Thanks to the suggestions by Sandip Bhattacharya and Arindam you have before yourself a literary gem (?) from me. This is a first draft of How not to behave on mailing lists. I have poured my heart out while writing about my favorite irritant, thread hijacking. I have put some words about inadequate use of google and top posting, but I think there are people who have much more hatred in their hearts who can comment on these topics better than me. Please let your venom flow and mail your suggestions off line to me. Once the quality of the document is good (or venomous) enough I will post it to my website and also send it to the LUGD mail admin, who may put it up on the LUGD website. Vivek had also written to point out a flaw that not many people would be inclined to click on a link detailing thread hijacking. I agree with him . However this document would provide a basic template for the members of this list which they can modify to meet their needs. How not to behave on mailing lists ** Mailing lists are one of the major means of interaction between Linux and Free Software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) enthusiasts keep in touch. To be a part of this community we expect the new members to follow certain decorum when they post on these mailing lists. Often the erring new members are gently reprimanded by the seniors in the mailing list, at other times they are mercilessly flamed (http://www.faqs.org/docs/jargon/F/flame.html) to death. This document is my attempt to put together a few mistakes which people usually commit when they post, why these mistakes are annoying and how best to avoid them. Not doing enough research = You should do a thorough research before posting a question. If folks think you have not even tried the obvious step of reading the docs applicable to your problem, they are likely to become annoyed. Here are a few tips : * Read the man and info pages. Most man and info pages have a `bugs' section. See if that applies to your case. * Run your program with a -hor -help option * Read the program documentation (usually found in `/usr/doc/program_name' or `/usr/share/doc/program_name') * If you have an error message from your program, copy the whole string into the google search area, enclose it in double quotes and then search. Using non descriptive subject lines === The subject line should accurately describe the topic you are discussing. In addition, don't use your subject line as your main question or statement and then fail to repeat (or rephrase) it in the body of the message. For example, do not put your `Subject' as `I need a FOOBAR CD' and leave the body of the email blank. Use your subject line to indicate what problem we can expect to find in your query. Don't waste your subject line in pleading (Please read, Urgent, HELP!!!...). Thread hijacking To start a new topic of discussion (commonly called a `thread'), compose a new message. Hit the Write new message button (or whatever button your client uses). Type in the address of the mailing list as the To address. This is the only way to actually start a new thread. Always start a new thread instead of taking an already ongoing one, changing the subject line and posting it again. The subject line is only loosely related to the threading. Every mail message has a message-id. When you reply or follow up to a message, you client is supposed to put a References header with the message-id of the message you are replying to. If you use an existing thread, the result is that your question is buried below unrelated questions when looking at the mailing list in a threaded way. This is known as `Hijacking threads'. It causes information to be lost and you'll be less likely to get an answer. Top Posting === Top posting means putting the answer to an email first. Usually, the reading-flow is from left to right and from top to bottom, and people expect a chronological sequence similar to this. Especially people who are reading a lot of articles (and who therefore would qualify as the ideal person to answer your question) appreciate it if they can read at first the text to which you are referring. The quoted text is some kind of help to remember the topic, which of course will not work, if you place the quoted text below your response. -- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist --
Re: [ilugd] [long] top posting, thread hijacking and other evils
Hi Raj, Raj Shekhar wrote: Thanks to the suggestions by Sandip Bhattacharya and Arindam you have before yourself a literary gem (?) from me. This is a first draft of How not to behave on mailing lists. [snip] Here is an excellent treatise on quoting methods, from Philip Tellis, posted recently to the ILUG-Bombay mailing list. Quoted in full for sake of completeness :-D -Vipul Original Message Subject: [ILUG-BOM] quoting formats - for everyone to read Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 00:39:04 +0530 (IST) From: Philip S Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai, India [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm bringing up this issue again because I see a trend here. What exactly do different quoting methods achieve? [quoting is the process of including the original message in your reply with some form of quote character, like for example marking the text as quoted, and a reply lead in like On someday, someone said:] When replying to a mail, one has several options, viz. - don't quote the original - quote the original with the reply at the top - quote the original with the reply at the bottom - quote the original with the reply interleaved with the original we shall call these unquoted, top posted, bottom posted and interleave posted respectively. Let's look at the effect each of these has on persons entering late into the conversational thread, casual readers, and those who browse through the mailing list archives, and search engine to find results. * Unquoted replies This definitely is the most space efficient in that it includes 0 unoriginal bytes. On the downside however, there is also a very high percentage loss of context (100% if the original mail had a stupid subject line like Help me!). What this means is that anyone entering the conversational thread late - in this case even one mail into the conversation, has very little idea of what's going on. Answers are no use without the right questions to go with them. Mailers can aid in creating context for the user through threading based on the In-Reply-To mail header. The problem with this is that it requires that anyone who wants to read the thread should have all messages in the thread in his mailbox. People joining in late will not have all messages, they will only have the latest one. It should be clear that, unless the subject line is all the context that's required, unquoted replies are very rarely a good idea. * Top posted replies It is common practice, and, in many cases, a good idea, to top post when replying to one-to-one personal or business mails. In these cases, the conversation is between two persons, and both have complete knowledge of all mails that have been exchanged between them. In such a scenario, unquoted replies would be a good option. The average business/personal email user, however, receives a large quantity of email every day, and it may not always be possible to keep track of all conversational threads. Including context at the bottom for reference is therefore necessary. This works only with one-to-one mails however. The moment we move to a mailing list/large group of recipients, this becomes infeasible. It has been noticed that everyone who quotes the original below their reply quotes it in entirety. After having been through three levels of top posting, the size of the mail increases heavily with less than 20% original content (original content is that content created by the current composer). Furthermore, the mail also gets cluttered with several long signatures which add no information to the thread. It seems that when the original is below the reply, care is not taken to check the nature of the content quoted. A second problem with top posting occurs when people join the thread late. Even though context is included in the mail, it is included in reverse order, which means that the mail needs to be read from the bottom up. This is not normal, since most people read from the top down. As a result, one needs to store context in ones mind while reading downwards. Some of the worst cases of top posting are when people reply to a very long thread with a one line or even a one word answer, eg, Thank you, Yes, me too, etc. Most people wouldn't delete the entire thread from below simply because they do not know how long it is - it would be completely hidden below the bottom boundary of their viewing area (window). * Bottom posted replies Replies posted completely at the bottom are only useful when the original mail is only a few lines long. Anything longer than that, and the reply ends up going below the initially visible area of the screen - for normal 80x25 screens/windows, requiring the user to scroll before he can read the reply. The problem is further compounded when signatures are included in the quoted text. At times it isn't clear whether a reply to the mail exists, or whether the mail was simply forwarded completely quoted. As with top posting, one liner
Re: [ilugd] sound card als4000 in redhat 9.0
Warren Brian Noronha wrote: alsa... the only thing i had to do was do add my user to the audio group which i did by [...] # adduser warren audio Shouldnt that be gpasswd -a warren audio ? - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] [Possibly OT] About the GNOME 'Foot' logo
I would love to see slashdot style fair warning to these dudes and dudettes ;-) will try to post it on slashdot.org Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Linux delhi archives
Hi! This might sound as a useless post to several. But i am sending it because i am receiving several offlist messages regarding archives. ** Linux delhi mail archives are maintaned at following url http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi This url gives a threaded view of archives and it is updated in real time i.e threads are updated as soon as mails are recived on the list. -- Vivek PS: this url is also appended at the end of message = # # ### # # # # # # Linux##v## Rules! ## vvv ## # ## ## ## ### ### +++# ##++ ++# #++ +++# #+++ +###+ +++ +++ Message void if penguin violated Don't mess with the penguin Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] HELP WITH JAVA VM PLUGIN
can u tell me the errors that are coming up when u try to run the things --- Prashant Kulkarni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been trying to get the JAVA VM plugin setup but have not been successful. The steps I've done are as follows:- 1. COPIED THE .bin FILE IN THE /usr AND RAN IT AS ./j2sdk1.4.bin 2. vi /root/.bashrc AND CREATED THE FOLLOWING VARIABLES JAVA_HOME=/usr/j2sdk1.4.1_03 PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:PATH export JAVA_HOME But I still have not been able to succeed. Can anyone help please. Thanks ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] tutorials on curses
can anyone of u please send me the usefule links or any matter related to learning curses i do not have any idea about them...so i have to start from the beginning.. thanx in advance harsh Yahoo! India Insurance Special: Be informed on the best policies, services, tools and more. Go to: http://in.insurance.yahoo.com/licspecial/index.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 12:43, harsh sharma wrote: can anyone of u please send me the usefule links or any matter related to learning curses i do not have any idea about them...so i have to start from the beginning.. Dude go and at least try searching google. In case you do *NOT* know the URL it is which seems to be a distinct possibility http://www.google.com Enter curses tutorial there and go find some useful links. Since I am in such a helpful mood here is one URL to start you off:- http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Regards, -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. GPG FPR: B8E3 219E F129 F970 F4A7 BC50 9636 504A BEDF 5739 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Please refrain from posting such useless links in future. If you cannot help some one just dont answer the thread. As for googling, its not necessary, you will always find an answer to your question on google. AMS if you cannot direct prpoperly atleast dont misdirect him. The link you sent is not clicked by the initiator of the thread but by several others who have gone through your reply. You might have ample time on this earth to go through such cultural items, but everyone has it. -- Vivek = # # ### # # # # # # Linux##v## Rules! ## vvv ## # ## ## ## ### ### +++# ##++ ++# #++ +++# #+++ +###+ +++ +++ Message void if penguin violated Don't mess with the penguin Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses
At 2004-03-03 21:16:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMS if you cannot direct prpoperly atleast dont misdirect him. The link you sent is not clicked by the initiator of the thread but by several others who have gone through your reply. Did you bother to actually check whom the message was from before trying to beat me with a stick? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses
On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 13:26, Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: At 2004-03-03 21:16:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMS if you cannot direct prpoperly atleast dont misdirect him. The link you sent is not clicked by the initiator of the thread but by several others who have gone through your reply. Did you bother to actually check whom the message was from before trying to beat me with a stick? -- ams Ah now i see what this guy meant by AMS. Got thrown off by that for a moment. As far as posting useless links if you would care to read carefully through the whole post I have given the guy the proper suggestion. That is enter curses tutorial in the google search. I just want him to go and do the work on his own rather than me providing him the links aka spoon feeding which is what this fellow is looking for going by his recent posts. I am pretty sure you did not read the whole posting carefully since you were berating AMS on such useless links. As far as useless link goes a little bit of humor never hurt anybody. And as to lots of spare time Who is the person clicking on all the links? Not me. And as for misdirection if the person cannot distinguish that the site is for spells and curses and not for linux curses what more can I say. Regards, -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. GPG FPR: B8E3 219E F129 F970 F4A7 BC50 9636 504A BEDF 5739 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses
--- Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you bother to actually check whom the message was from before trying to beat me with a stick? Sorry, call it mental illusion, i was reading areply from you on some other thread before sending this repply. Sorry again. [ducking, running, with white flag] --Vivek = # # ### # # # # # # Linux##v## Rules! ## vvv ## # ## ## ## ### ### +++# ##++ ++# #++ +++# #+++ +###+ +++ +++ Message void if penguin violated Don't mess with the penguin Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 13:16, vivek khurana wrote: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Please refrain from posting such useless links in future. If you cannot help some one just dont answer the thread. As for googling, its not necessary, you will always find an answer to your question on google. I forgot to tackle this point in the previous post sorry for increasing the clutter and wasting your precious time. Dude if you will always find an answer on google then go and search there. In case you are unfamiliar with netiquette and posting on mailing lists the first golden rule is Search for your problem on Google. Only if you cannot find an answer there then post on the mailing list. I am pretty sure I am not the only one here with this view. Regards, -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. GPG FPR: B8E3 219E F129 F970 F4A7 BC50 9636 504A BEDF 5739 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
At 2004-03-03 17:18:09 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love it if some one could talk about [...] writing snort rules, with examples of how to report the recent viral/worm activities. ams? Eh, I've never actually used Snort, so I won't presume to talk about it. Maybe IPsec or something, though? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 21:16 -0800, vivek khurana wrote: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Please refrain from posting such useless links in future. If you cannot help some one just dont answer the thread. As for googling, its not necessary, you will always find an answer to your question on google. if yu know what the question that guy had put up - he wanted a tutorial on curses, and wanted somebody to guide him. the help he wanted is something which is easily available on google - yu can also try searching atleast once. that guy wants to be spoonfed, has not done his homework. here we first work on something, try to resolve the problem by ourselves and if unsuccessful then ask mailing list for the help, but here he wants to relax in his armchair let others do the work for him. also, as for the irrelevant link, well, that link may be irrelevant for yu, but long long time back while i was searching for vodoun and voodoo and shamanism, i had come across this site. was quite impressed by it, but later, under a spell of amnesia, this link slipped out of my mind never to be found again. now thanks to Mr. Dey, i again have access to vast amount of information on occult, mysticism, magical paranormal stuff. in fact i should thank Mr. Dey for that [vivek bends on his knees, takes the left hand of Mr. Dey in both his hands, with tears almost on the verge of falling on his eyes, says Thank You!] -- \|||/ (o o) ooO-(_)-Ooo- | vivek| GPG Key:| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://exain.net/vike | || | Registered Linux User: #305493 | ( _ ) _| | | |_ (___| |___) ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
I second you.Hail GOOGLE -- Rishabh Manocha http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/rmanocha **Your Quote for the day** One of the questions that comes up all the time is: How enthusiastic is our support for UNIX? Unix was written on our machines and for our machines many years ago. Today, much of UNIX being done is done on our machines. Ten percent of our VAXs are going for UNIX use. UNIX is a simple language, easy to understand, easy to get started with. It's great for students, great for somewhat casual users, and it's great for interchanging programs between different machines. And so, because of its popularity in these markets, we support it. We have good UNIX on VAX and good UNIX on PDP-11s. It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will run out of things they can do with UNIX. They'll want a real system and will end up doing VMS when they get to be serious about programming. With UNIX, if you're looking for something, you can easily and quickly check that small manual and find out that it's not there. With VMS, no matter what you look for -- it's literally a five-foot shelf of documentation -- if you look long enough it's there. That's the difference -- the beauty of UNIX is it's simple; and the beauty of VMS is that it's all there. -- Ken Olsen, president of DEC, DECWORLD Vol. 8 No. 5, 1984 [It's been argued that the beauty of UNIX is the same as the beauty of Ken Olsen's brain. Ed.] ** On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Arindam Dey wrote: On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 13:16, vivek khurana wrote: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Please refrain from posting such useless links in future. If you cannot help some one just dont answer the thread. As for googling, its not necessary, you will always find an answer to your question on google. I forgot to tackle this point in the previous post sorry for increasing the clutter and wasting your precious time. Dude if you will always find an answer on google then go and search there. In case you are unfamiliar with netiquette and posting on mailing lists the first golden rule is Search for your problem on Google. Only if you cannot find an answer there then post on the mailing list. I am pretty sure I am not the only one here with this view. Regards, -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. GPG FPR: B8E3 219E F129 F970 F4A7 BC50 9636 504A BEDF 5739 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] tutorials on curses
On Thu, 2004-03-04 at 14:16, vivek wrote: On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 21:16 -0800, vivek khurana wrote: http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/curses.html Please refrain from posting such useless links in future. If you cannot help some one just dont answer the thread. As for googling, its not necessary, you will always find an answer to your question on google. if yu know what the question that guy had put up - he wanted a tutorial on curses, and wanted somebody to guide him. the help he wanted is something which is easily available on google - yu can also try searching atleast once. that guy wants to be spoonfed, has not done his homework. here we first work on something, try to resolve the problem by ourselves and if unsuccessful then ask mailing list for the help, but here he wants to relax in his armchair let others do the work for him. Thank you. Thank you. Nice to see people do agree with me. also, as for the irrelevant link, well, that link may be irrelevant for yu, but long long time back while i was searching for vodoun and voodoo and shamanism, [snip] in fact i should thank Mr. Dey for that [vivek bends on his knees, takes the left hand of Mr. Dey in both his hands, with tears almost on the verge of falling on his eyes, says Thank You!] Ah Mr. Dey says you are welcome :-). Thanks for the heads up on your interests of voodoo and shamanism etc. I will definitely try to remember that in the future before messing with you and before loaning any of my personal items like cd's to you because according to National Geographic all the Shaman needs is one personal item of yours and then you are history. Br. :-) Regards, -- Arindam Dey The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. GPG FPR: B8E3 219E F129 F970 F4A7 BC50 9636 504A BEDF 5739 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: At 2004-03-03 21:16:17 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AMS if you cannot direct prpoperly atleast dont misdirect him. The link you sent is not clicked by the initiator of the thread but by several others who have gone through your reply. Did you bother to actually check whom the message was from before trying to beat me with a stick? :)) Vivek didnt realize that there was another google man on the list! ams, you now have competition! ;) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote: Eh, I've never actually used Snort, so I won't presume to talk about it. Maybe IPsec or something, though? Great! IPsec will do. However, since the freeswan project just shut down, how about talking about the new ipsec code in the kernel and how to configure it? :) - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses
:)) Vivek didnt realize that there was another google man on the list! ams, you now have competition! ;) - Sandip hey ... chill ppl .. I'm sure the original poster must have got his answer by now. This is becoming way too OT. Regards Sharninder ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
At 2004-03-04 12:05:25 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! IPsec will do. However, since the freeswan project just shut down, how about talking about the new ipsec code in the kernel and how to configure it? Yes, that's what I was planning. (I hate FreeS/WAN.) But what are other people talking about? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] strcpy local variable in c
Hi all,
I just want to know, why does this C code work?
#include stdio.h
#include string.h
char * foo();
int main()
{
char string[200];
strcpy(string,foo());
printf(String=%s\n,string);
return 0;
}
char * foo()
{
char string[200];
char * ptr=NULL;
strcpy(string,hello world);
ptr=string;
return ptr;
}
According to me, as we have string as local variable, it should vanish. But, i am
still able to return and print the string hello world.
When I change to :
char string[200]=hello world;
and do not use strcpy(),
It shows junk, the behaviour is as per my expectations.
Does it has got something to do with the implementation of strcpy()? So, does it mean
that, in case of Windows it might behave differently?
Hope to get some help.
Thanks in advance.
vikas
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[ilugd] Re: strcpy local variable in c
At 2004-03-04 12:24:25 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to me, as we have string as local variable, it should vanish. But, i am still able to return and print the string hello world. Returning a pointer to local variables is undefined; that is, there is no guarantee whatsoever about its behaviour. In particular, it doesn't need to vanish (but it may). So your code works only by accident. I'm surprised that gcc's warnings are defeated by your intermediate assignment (ptr = string), but only a little. When I change to : char string[200]=hello world; and do not use strcpy(), It shows junk, the behaviour is as per my expectations. (Coincidence. As it happens, it works for me even without the strcpy.) -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Re: Suggestion for ilugd meet
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Great! IPsec will do. However, since the freeswan project just shut down, how about talking about the new ipsec code in the kernel and how to configure it? quote FreeS/WAN is no longer in active development. Although we've created a solid IPsec implentation widely used to construct Virtual Private Networks, the project's major goal, ubiquitous Opportunistic Encryption, is unlikely to be reached given its current level of community support. For the full story, please see this announcement. We plan a final (2.06) development release shortly, with bugfix releases to follow as needed. Our community at lists.freeswan.org will continue to provide a forum where users can support one another, and our Web site will remain up. We expect that FreeS/WAN and its derivatives will be actively used for some time to come. /quote http://www.freeswan.org/ending_letter.html -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: strcpy local variable in c
From: Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 2004-03-04 12:24:25 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to me, as we have string as local variable, it should vanish. But, i am still able to return and print the string hello world. Returning a pointer to local variables is undefined; that is, there is no guarantee whatsoever about its behaviour. In particular, it doesn't need to vanish (but it may). By vanish I mean, function gone it's data gone. Each function data (unless got through malloc or defined static) is put on it's stack frame, so when function returns the stack frame is popped out. So local variable no more exists !!! So your code works only by accident. I'm surprised that gcc's warnings are defeated by your intermediate assignment (ptr = string), but only a little. When I change to : char string[200]=hello world; and do not use strcpy(), It shows junk, the behaviour is as per my expectations. (Coincidence. As it happens, it works for me even without the strcpy.) This has been my understading, but now the problem is - if all what i know is correct, yaar yeh kaam kyon kar raha hae. I have tried it so many times ... but if it's just coincidence, what a beautiful coincidence:-) I am also amused, that's why I thought of really knowing WHY and posted it. I have compiled using -Wall option of gcc, but in vain, gcc doesn't complain. Is this a weired behaviour by gcc or it's what is expected ??? thanx ams. i m waiting for more info ... Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: strcpy local variable in c
At 2004-03-04 13:08:14 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By vanish I mean, function gone it's data gone. I know what you mean. It's a common expectation, but as I said, there is no guarantee that any such thing will happen. *No* valid assumptions can be made with respect to undefined behaviour. You cannot even expect it to not work. I have tried it so many times ... but if it's just coincidence, what a beautiful coincidence:-) No, it's not the kind of coincidence that happens differently each time. It's the kind that varies between platforms, or versions of your system libraries, or compiler or whatever. In any case, you should not depend on any particular behaviour in this case. I wish gcc did complain about this, but I expect it's inefficient to try to detect all possible cases where this is happening. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] (fwd) Coreutils 'dir' integer overflow vulnerability.
[Please upgrade coreutils on all distributions -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Shaun=20Colley?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Coreutils 'dir' integer overflow vulnerability. Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 19:34:57 + (GMT) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Product: Coreutils 'dir' - versions 5.2.0 http://www.gnu.org Versions: 5.2.0 (**see Vulnerable Versions for very important info on versions vulnerable!**) Bug: DoS / possible arbitrary code execution. Impact: Attacker's can cause MASS consumption of CPU utilisation and usage of memory, by corrupting the stack. Possible code execution. Date: March 02, 2004 Author: Shaun Colley Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.nettwerked.co.uk ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Introduction # GNU Coreutils is a set of standard utilities included in all Linux distributions, with a set of useful tools. These include: - ls - cat - date - yes - who - wc - dir - vdir - chown - chmod - echo and so on... A while ago, an integer overflow vulnerability was found in 'ls' by Georgi Guninski, allowing an attacker to consume CPU resources due to stack corruption, and *potentially* execute arbitrary code remotely (due to usage of 'ls' by Internet daemons like 'WU-FTPD'). Fixed packages were supplied by major Linux distribution vendors (and other UNIX-like OSes and UNIX variants), which fixed the integer overflow issue. After auditing 'dir' on a slightly older version of Coreutils, 4.1.11, I discovered 'dir' to be vulnerable to an almost identical attack. On the updated Coreutils packages supplied by Linux distribution vendors, and on the latest version of Coreutils (5.2.0), this issue in 'dir' *HAS* been fixed (likely because 'dir' uses some of 'ls's code), but for some reason, the community *WAS NOT* alerted of this vulnerability. The bug This bug occurs in the handling of arguments passed to 'dir' via the '-w' flag (the 'width' flag) at the shell. If an overly long integer is passed to 'dir' with the -w flag, the stack is corrupted, and large amounts of CPU utilisation are consumed. Although unlikely, if programs which invoke 'dir' allow passing of arguments via the '-w' flag, it is possible that arbitrary code execution is possible, although unconfirmed. CPU utilisation mass consumed by 'dir' due to the corruption of the stack can reach close to, or equal to, 100% usage, allowing complete DoS to be performed by a potential attacker. The vulnerability is due to bad handling of command line arguments, causing an integer overflow - causing the program stack and memory to be corrupted. The exploit A proof-of-concept to verify the issue in your version of Coreutils is the command shown below: ## bash$ dir -w 1073741828 ## If the host's version of Coreutils is vulnerable, mass CPU utilisation will be used, and if invoked via a debugging tool such as 'Valgrind', one can see the consequences of the integer overflow taking place. The fix The solution for this issue is to upgrade to the latest GNU Coreutils package. www.gnu.org Optionally, you can use the Coreutils packages supplied by your Linux distribution vendor. Grab the RPMs, and issue the following command: ## root# rpm -Uhv coreutils-rpm ## Re-invoke the proof-of-concept 'dir' command shown above, and the issue should be resolved. Vulnerable Versions During October 2003, Georgi Guninski discovered a similar (almost identical) integer overflow in 'ls', which led the the release of fixed Coreutils packages, fixing the 'ls' integer overflow, AND THE INTEGER OVERFLOW IN 'dir'. Perhaps it was never realised that 'dir' was vulnerable, but the fact remains is that it is. (The caps below are to ensure that the important information is read, not to imply shouting.) USERS WHO UPGRADED WHEN FIXED Coreutils PACKAGES WERE RELEASED TO FIX THE 'ls' INTEGER OVERFLOW VULNERABILITY ARE IMMUNE TO THIS VULNERABILITY, AND THEREFORE DO NOT NEED TO UPGRADE! Users who did not upgrade are *still* vulnerable to this similar (but different, since 'dir' is a different program) vulnerability. I advise you upgrade, as recommended above. Credit ### This vulnerability was discovered by Shaun Colley / shaun2k2. Thank you for your time. Shaun. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html -- End of this Digest ** -- Raj Mathur
