[ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
hi can anyone who has used both moinmoin and mediawiki give a heads up on the comparative performance of the two - i am interested in ease of use for the end user, security and configurability. Yes, i have STFWed, but would like to have an opinion from the practical point of view -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
On Wednesday, 31 Aug 2005 12:25 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi can anyone who has used both moinmoin and mediawiki give a heads up on the comparative performance of the two - i am interested in ease of use for the end user, security and configurability. Yes, i have STFWed, but would like to have an opinion from the practical point of view I have used both(last looked at mediawiki late last year) and I prefer moinmoin for the finegrained security possible in it. moinmoin allows you have not only site wide ACLs, but you can also tailor the ACL for a particular page. If you manage a wiki where there are one or more pages which you would like to keep under your control (e.g. the frontpage), moin would be a better choice. There are some advantages of mediawiki too. I like its automatic generation of table of contents(which looks better than the TableOfContents macro in moin). Besides mediawiki being based on sql is probably going to scale better than moin which is flat file on disk based. This also means that moin is easier to backup, but that is not too big a point for moin. - Sandi -- Sandip Bhattacharya |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. | http://www.puroga.com GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
On Wednesday, 31 Aug 2005 12:25 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi can anyone who has used both moinmoin and mediawiki give a heads up on the comparative performance of the two - i am interested in ease of use for the end user, security and configurability. Yes, i have STFWed, but would like to have an opinion from the practical point of view I have used both(last looked at mediawiki late last year) and I prefer moinmoin for the finegrained security possible in it. moinmoin allows you have not only site wide ACLs, but you can also tailor the ACL for a particular page. If you manage a wiki where there are one or more pages which you would like to keep under your control (e.g. the frontpage), moin would be a better choice. There are some advantages of mediawiki too. I like its automatic generation of table of contents(which looks better than the TableOfContents macro in moin). Besides mediawiki being based on sql is probably going to scale better than moin which is flat file on disk based. This also means that moin is easier to backup, but that is not too big a point for moin. - Sandi -- Sandip Bhattacharya |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. | http://www.puroga.com GPG/PGP Fingerprint: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 1:26 pm, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Wednesday, 31 Aug 2005 12:25 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi can anyone who has used both moinmoin and mediawiki give a heads up on the comparative performance of the two - i am interested in ease of use for the end user, security and configurability. Yes, i have STFWed, but would like to have an opinion from the practical point of view I have used both(last looked at mediawiki late last year) and I prefer moinmoin for the finegrained security possible in it. moinmoin allows you have not only site wide ACLs, but you can also tailor the ACL for a particular page. If you manage a wiki where there are one or more pages which you would like to keep under your control (e.g. the frontpage), moin would be a better choice. a clarification - in moin can you have some pages as non-editable? Secondly, how is the revert feature? as far as i can see, if a spammer hits a page, and someone else edits it after that, it is not possible to revert to what it was previous to the spam. -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list
The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed Just guessing - are you trying to send HTML mail, or probably sending out an attachment with the mail? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
Kenneth == Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kenneth On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 1:26 pm, Sandip Bhattacharya Kenneth wrote: On Wednesday, 31 Aug 2005 12:25 pm, Kenneth Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: hi can anyone who has used both Kenneth moinmoin and mediawiki give a heads up on the Kenneth comparative performance of the two - i am interested in Kenneth ease of use for the end user, security and Kenneth configurability. Yes, i have STFWed, but would like to Kenneth have an opinion from the practical point of view I Kenneth have used both(last looked at mediawiki late last year) Kenneth and I prefer moinmoin for the finegrained security Kenneth possible in it. moinmoin allows you have not only site Kenneth wide ACLs, but you can also tailor the ACL for a Kenneth particular page. If you manage a wiki where there are Kenneth one or more pages which you would like to keep under Kenneth your control (e.g. the frontpage), moin would be a Kenneth better choice. a clarification - in moin can you have Kenneth some pages as non-editable? Secondly, how is the revert Kenneth feature? as far as i can see, if a spammer hits a page, Kenneth and someone else edits it after that, it is not possible Kenneth to revert to what it was previous to the spam.-- Kenneth regardskg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgontally Kenneth ho! http://avsap.org.in?? ?! Dude, please fix your quoting and formatting. I haven't been able to read a single mail by you to the list so far! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
in infinite wisdom Sandip Bhattacharya spoke thus on 08/31/05 13:26: Besides mediawiki being based on sql is probably going to scale better than moin which is flat file on disk based. This also means that moin is easier to backup, but that is not too big a point for moin. - Sandi I tried running mediawiki once - it was extremely slow. Granted, I was running it on a shared web host and the database was shared between mediawiki as well as mambo. Hence you may have to look into caching techniques (it is given in the mediawiki faq). Another option you may want to look into is the Pmwiki- it does not require a database backend and is quite feature packed. http://rajshekhar.net/content/view/24/26/ -- Raj ShekharY!IM : lunatech3007 blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog home : http://rajshekhar.net Disclaimer : http://rajshekhar.net/disclaimer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
At 2005-08-31 16:31:35 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, please fix your quoting and formatting. I haven't been able to read a single mail by you to the list so far! That's... weird. They've all looked fine to me. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list
Nope have made it plain text but sometimes I do cut and paste stuff ??? but not in the last two mails that bounced ram Saurabh Nanda wrote: The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed Just guessing - are you trying to send HTML mail, or probably sending out an attachment with the mail? Nandz. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] moinmoin and mediawiki
On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 4:31 pm, Raj Mathur wrote: Dude, please fix your quoting and formatting. I haven't been able to read a single mail by you to the list so far! nothing wrong with my quoting and formatting. The problem is that i have tamil/kannada in my sig. This apparently messes up mail clients that are not properly configured for indic stuff. I am sending two replies to this message, one with indic in the sig and one without. Please check at your end. this is with indic in the sig -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] opening ppt files in Open Office
On 8/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received some password protected Microcost Offyce (c) power point - ppt files. I don't have the passwords but it is supposed to be opened as read only. Open Office does not even get to asking for the pass word it gives the following message. *Error loading document file:/// home.ram/Desktop/AA%20Indian%20creepies.ppt Version Incompatibility Incorrect File Version* AFAIK password protected M$ format files will not open in OO. You have to save them without password and then opened in OO -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] replication between CVS
I have configured CVSup for replication..but its supports in one direction only and i want to configure it bidirection.. any one have Ide about CVSproxy..can any one help me in this issue... -- Manish Popli ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Meeting today
--- Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 30 Aug 2005 10:35 pm, vivek khurana wrote: Thanks Keneth. These logos were made using Inkscape, touched up using Gimp, webpage was created using bluefish, uploaded to website using gftp, hosted on a linux based server, tested using mozilla-firefox browser. That explains the whole story. this should be mentioned somewhere on the page as it is a good advertisement for floss - btw, it appears that the masthead graphic is made in photoshop - could you check out and rectify if necessary? Good idea Keneth, will do it tommorow. Btw which mast head graphics are you talking about, i do not have any masthead on my site. reagrds VK I have studied in an university called life Disclaimer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] replication between CVS
On Wednesday 31 August 2005 19:13, Manish Popli wrote: I have configured CVSup for replication..but its supports in one direction only and i want to configure it bidirection.. any one have Ide about CVSproxy..can any one help me in this issue... I have some advice that you won't like: Don't do this. Even if by hook or crook you get it working, it will not work right, at best you'll have a messy repository and will likely lose data. If you really really need distributed revision control I suggest you give up on CVS, it is just not designed for that. Some viable alternatives include GNU Arch, monotone and Subversion/SVK. -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Meeting today
On Wednesday 31 Aug 2005 10:01 pm, vivek khurana wrote: this should be mentioned somewhere on the page as it is a good advertisement for floss - btw, it appears that the masthead graphic is made in photoshop - could you check out and rectify if necessary? Good idea Keneth, will do it tommorow. Btw which mast head graphics are you talking about, i do not have any masthead on my site. which is your site? i thought you were referring to freedel.org. I was referring to the masthead on freedel.org -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am getting this message for a few posts that I made The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed Check the email headers. Most mailing list softwares put a reason on why the mail was rejected in the headers. -- Raj ShekharY!IM : lunatech3007 blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog home : http://rajshekhar.net Disclaimer : http://rajshekhar.net/disclaimer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] replication between CVS
wat do u mean ?? On 9/1/05, Sirtaj Singh Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 31 August 2005 19:13, Manish Popli wrote: I have configured CVSup for replication..but its supports in one direction only and i want to configure it bidirection.. any one have Ide about CVSproxy..can any one help me in this issue... I have some advice that you won't like: Don't do this. Even if by hook or crook you get it working, it will not work right, at best you'll have a messy repository and will likely lose data. If you really really need distributed revision control I suggest you give up on CVS, it is just not designed for that. Some viable alternatives include GNU Arch, monotone and Subversion/SVK. -Taj. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Manish Popli ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] replication between CVS
On Thursday 01 Sep 2005 10:37 am, Manish Popli wrote: wat do u mean ?? what he means is that there are many packages for version control. The first and most widespread was CVS. CVS has many limitations and will not be able to do what was required by the OP. A package like subversion, which retains all the best features of CVS while adding new and better features would be more suitable for the requirements of the OP. -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Unable to post messages to list
Hi This is the message in the header (gmail.com: 204.74.68.40 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) any ideas how this could be rectified ram Raj Shekhar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am getting this message for a few posts that I made The messages's content type was not explicitly allowed Check the email headers. Most mailing list softwares put a reason on why the mail was rejected in the headers. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
