Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???
On 3/27/06, mehul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/27/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he puts his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question in row. Well one benefit is that if the code is seen,people can trust the software as there can be no malicious or nasty feature in the software.Another is,if others can see the code they can make improvements to the software and submit it back to the developer and many times bugs can be removed by the users rather than the developers. 2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about zend studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is this right? You need not give them out the source necessarily but the source of software should be placed in a place that is easily accessible and you should give information on how to access it. But, you have to give the source if the person asks for it specifically, but you can charge as per your wishes for the media eg a CD or a DVD if that was right and someone purchases that or any s/w with source code then can he make the some modification n sell using his own tag(ofcourse he can do modification). Yes the other person can do that but he has to give credits to the original developer. But who knows whether the a software produced by him has been reproduced by some other party and selling it. I mean, is there anybody who takes care of it(whether the original developer is being credited or not)? PS:- There are many OSS licenses like GPL, LGPL, CDDL, BSD License, etc. I haven't read any of them properly. The answers above may not be applicable to some of the licenses. You should read them properly if you want to deal with them. ___ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Security: What it is ?
Hi Sandip G, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: A lot of how stuff works, on not only Unix but all computer systems, are merely conventions and not standards written in stone. Conventions work, as long as sufficient part of the population follows it. This works not only in computers but also in real life. Following the convention normally assures that you would find the widest amount of acceptability, and will be able to fit into the rest of the society. Just an example, in the lighter (not disparaging) sense , nobody has written a rule that you will have to walk on legs. You might want to just go ahead and walk on your hands - upside down. Just that a lot of stuff becomes difficult to do in everyday life that way. :) Not a good example, I think so. Similarly, using the root user consistently as the superuser on Unix systems, will make it easy for the computer to play with many software which assumes that the root has the power. If a process wants superuser privileges, its uid has to be 0, not the name possessed by uid has to be root. So a good program has to go through standards so that it achieves its objectives in every situation. And BTW, what are conventions for, if they're not fit in every situations, that's why standards are there. - Sandip That'all. Thanx Ashish Shukla Wah Java !! -- आशीष शुक्ला alias Wah Java !! http://wahjava.blogspot.com/ The only key to optimal life is precision. -- Ashish Shukla Wah Java !! http://wahjava.blogspot.com/2006/03/useful-thought.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Security: What it is ?
On 3/28/06, आशीष शुक्ला \Wah Java !!\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And BTW, what are conventions for, if they're not fit in every situations, that's why standards are there. There are many, many things it's worth fighting for standardisation on. The username 'root' is such an ingrained Unix convention (yes, a convention, not a standard) that it really isn't one of them. I suggest you spend your headspace, your love of precision, and our mail-reading time on something more important. Even in the area of Linux security I have no doubt there are hundreds of more meaningful and genuine issues ... Cian ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GRUB,LILO-Graphical Textual
On 3/27/06, Neeraj Arora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I partitioned the system as C Drive(FAT32) - 10GB, 20 GB(FAT32) - D Drive, 10 GB - For LINUX. When i started installing the PCQLinux2004 on it, it took around 44 mins. to install GNOME,XServer,KDE with all the reqd. packages that also include MySQL,Apache packages too with a very smooth(no problematic) installation. BUT, when i rebooted the system, it showed something like I am not very sure that why this GRUB error message appearing , But some past experience has shown me that if u are dual booting then it`s better not to make ur / partition in the last partition of your hard disk , it just don`t work sometimes. so try installing in a primary partition , may be it solve ur problem -- When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward Linux User #348873 http://rockybhai.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] why?????What benefits???
in infinite wisdom ankit walia spoke thus On 03/27/2006 10:13 PM: 1) if a person puts his efforts in making a gud software,ok,then why he puts his code openly,i agree that its benefits others,now see another question in row. See http://rajshekhar.net/content/view/3/26/ , especially the section Lets Talk Economics 2) i dont know much about GPL and other type of licences,but what my friend said that if someone purchases some software like we were talking about zend studio then zend people will give them the source code of zend studio. is this right? With Free Software (GPL, Apache, BSD, Artistic and other Free software licenses http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html ) , you get the source code as well as the the freedom to change and redistribute (for free or for a fees) the software. However, when you get the source for proprietary software, they come without these freedom. Have a look at the four freedoms that free software give you http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- _.-, raj shekhar .--' '-._ http://rajshekhar.net _/`- _ '. http://rajshekhar.net/blog ''._`.. \ ` \; WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE ;_\-- God's Last Message to his Creation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [svlug] firewall utility]
Interesting mail on some other mailing list Original Message Subject: Re: [svlug] firewall utility Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:41:19 -0800 From: Rick Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting Ron Hinchley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is there a good firewall utility to simplify the construction of a firewall and NAT. All I want is a basic firewall with some ports open inside the firewall but closed to the outside. Please advise. GUI front-ends to iptables include fwbuilder, GNOME lokkit, fireflier, firestarter, Guarddog, Guidedog, gShieldConf, Knetfilter, and LutelWall. There are lots more. Scripts and C programs that do it for you include MonMotha's Firewall, Firewallscrip, Ferm, AGT, gSshield, Or you can use Webmin. Me, I just look at Rusty's Remarkably Unreliable Guides when I need to figure something out that I've forgotten: http://people.netfilter.org/~rusty/unreliable-guides/ Especially useful bits: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.1 http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html Good, quick tutorials linked from Rusty Russell's site: http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Security/IPtables_Basics.html http://www.unixreview.com/documents/s=1236/urm0104l/0104l.htm http://davidcoulson.net/writing/lxf/14/iptables.pdf -- Cheers, I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, Rick Moen which, when you looked at it in the right way, did [EMAIL PROTECTED] not become still more complicated. -- Poul Anderson ___ svlug mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug -- _.-, raj shekhar .--' '-._ http://rajshekhar.net _/`- _ '. http://rajshekhar.net/blog ''._`.. \ ` \; WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE INCONVENIENCE ;_\-- God's Last Message to his Creation ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
