Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 28-May-07, at 11:18 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote:

 [...]
 could you say what exactly sarai uses multimedia for?

 The list at http://indlinux.org/wiki/index.php/CM_Multimedia
 is roughly in order of priority, namely:
 1. Conversion between audio/video formats: This is only top-
priority because it is of general utility, and I know what
tools to use, and plan to build a small GUI front-end to
facilitate the work.

apart from this one, my recommendation is that if sarai has the funds  
it would be better to stick to proprietary stuff for a year or two -  
i wouldnt even recommend using blender, *unless* there is a person  
who is both a professional in the field and a foss enthusiast. If  
not, forget it.


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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 11:54 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 28-May-07, at 11:18 AM, Gora Mohanty wrote:
[...]
  1. Conversion between audio/video formats:
[...]

 apart from this one, my recommendation is that if sarai has the funds  
 it would be better to stick to proprietary stuff for a year or two 
[...]

That is what we are almost certainly going to do. However, it might be
possible for us to find funding for development work in these areas,
provided that we can put together a committed team, a workplan, and
a mechanism to ensure accountability. I am going to start talking to
various people about this, so if you have any thoughts on the subject,
please follow up here (is this getting off-topic for the list?), or
email me privately.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 28-May-07, at 12:15 PM, Gora Mohanty wrote:

 That is what we are almost certainly going to do. However, it might be
 possible for us to find funding for development work in these areas,
 provided that we can put together a committed team, a workplan, and
 a mechanism to ensure accountability. I am going to start talking to
 various people about this, so if you have any thoughts on the subject,
 please follow up here (is this getting off-topic for the list?),

certainly not OT - i would love to see a project on working on  
blender - maybe sarai could donate the cost of a copy of maya to set  
the ball rolling ;-)


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Kenneth Gonsalves
Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/




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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Andrew Michael Lynn
 Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/28/07 10:44 AM 
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 05:51 +0530, Anant Narayanan wrote:
[...]
 Perhaps you could expand the topics of interest posted for the RGF-Sarai
 FLOSS fellowships to include areas such as multimedia tools?

Um, they are in there, though somewhat down the list. Personally, I feel
that this will take a longer-term engagement than is provided by the
duration of the usual Sarai FLOSS fellowships. However, we are willing
to consider any serious proposals for multimedia work under the FLOSS
fellowship programme.

I did a mini-project in collecting digital content development tools for 
e-learning a few years ago - and eventually went the same way that the Sarai 
team is planning - Final Cut Pro on the Mac and Adobe 
Premiere/Photoshop/Pagemaker for both the Mac and Windows platforms. 

It was not because the open-source versions were inferior in capability - or 
promised features. Just lacked documentation or howtos for the newbie and 
irregular user. Unfortunately the professional digital designer was normally 
inseperable from the Mac platform with its proprietary tools and once familiar 
does not want to change..(Who does! Old dogs...new tricks... aside: I love 
still love Fedora inspite of the Ubuntu wave!)

Many of the tools are available in Dynebolic or Ubuntu Studio. Maybe we should 
move discussion from development to deployment of FOSS multimedia: 
Here is a suggestion: We can run a extended workshop that comprehensively 
checks out software for digital content creation, and generates HOWTOs and 
tutorials... 
1.Space and hardware - I can provide space - and PC's with relatively good 
graphics and RAM for a workshop/ especially over the summer/winter/diwali 
vacations - prelude to FREEDEL
2.People - Students  are aplenty for testing/kearning  and documentation - but 
would do far-far better with some guidance...

Any takers from those with  professional experience in digital design? .?



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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 13:52 +0530, Andrew Michael Lynn wrote:
[...]
 I did a mini-project in collecting digital content development tools for 
 e-learning
  a few years ago - and eventually went the same way that the Sarai team is 
 planning
  - Final Cut Pro on the Mac and Adobe Premiere/Photoshop/Pagemaker for both 
 the Mac
  and Windows platforms. 

Yeah, that is where we seem to be heading to at this time. However, I
would like for a real FOSS alternative to be available.

 It was not because the open-source versions were inferior in capability - or 
 promised
  features. Just lacked documentation or howtos for the newbie and irregular 
 user.
  Unfortunately the professional digital designer was normally inseperable 
 from the Mac
  platform with its proprietary tools and once familiar does not want to 
 change..(Who
 does! Old dogs...new tricks... aside: I love still love Fedora inspite of the 
 Ubuntu
  wave!)

Actually, I completely sympathise with such people. Once you have
learnt a tool, and become familiar enough with it that it has become
second nature, an alternative will have to be significantly better
in order to convince people to switch. And, from what I hear from
people, the FOSS tools are as yet not even up to the mark of existing
closed-source equivalents. If Final Cut Pro is the industry standard
for now, maybe we should do the standard FOSS trick of cloning its
interface.

 Many of the tools are available in Dynebolic or Ubuntu Studio. Maybe we
 should move discussion from development to deployment of FOSS multimedia: 
 Here is a suggestion: We can run a extended workshop that comprehensively
 checks out software for digital content creation, and generates HOWTOs and
  tutorials... 
 1.Space and hardware - I can provide space - and PC's with relatively good
  graphics and RAM for a workshop/ especially over the summer/winter/diwali
  vacations - prelude to FREEDEL
 2.People - Students  are aplenty for testing/kearning  and documentation -
  but would do far-far better with some guidance...

OK, this sounds like a plan. Though, rather than a single workshop, I
would think that this would take a continued engagement for several
months. Someone at Sarai was supposed to have been doing exactly this,
but there has not been much progress. At the same time, I would like
to put together a team of developers to tackle specific programming
tasks in the domain of multimedia FOSS applications. We should talk
about how to make these two things happen.

 Any takers from those with  professional experience in digital design?
 .?

I do believe that Niyam has been volunteered :-) People at Sarai would
probably be willing to pitch in if they saw a concerted effort, with a
real chance of success.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Eben Moglen lecture on software patents

2007-05-28 Thread Sudev Barar
On 28/05/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
   Below is an announcement for a lecture/discussion at IIC, Delhi at
 10.30am on Sat., 9th June, by Eben Moglen. He will speak on software

Why-o-why? Just happens to be dates when i am not in Delhi. Any one
willing to record audio?

-- 
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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Software Engineer (i18n) vacancy at Pune, Maharashtra, India

2007-05-28 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Language Maintainer - Marathi position at Red Hat (Pune)

2007-05-28 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
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Re: [ilugd] Centos - 4.x - VAIO notebook heating up

2007-05-28 Thread abhishek jain
On 5/27/07, Sharad Birmiwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The exact functionality you are looking for is provided in the Linux
 kernel
 as frequency scaling. You have four basic governors available (if they are
 compiled in the kernel/loaded as modules).

 $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
 conservative ondemand powersave userspace

 I echo the desired governor to
 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor and it works fine
 for
 me. FYI, i've an HP laptop and I run gentoo.

 For more info, see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/cpu-freq.


 Sharad Birmiwal


 On 5/27/07, PJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  abhishek jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   No, the fans are not working at all,
 
  Not in windows either? If it works in windows and not in linux, then
  it's due to propViaotary oddities, and you'll have to dig into how acpid
  or apm handles fans.
 
   Pl. tell me how to make them alive again, or should i seek a repair.
 
  If the fans don't work in windows either, you can probably get it fixed
  at Nehru Place. They may break something else over there while fixing
  your fans, but that's one of the charms of the shops there.
 
  If one of those clowns has already taken it apart, he may have forgotten
  something trivial like reattaching the fan lead to its power supply.
 
  An alternative suggestion: get a fan base for notebooks. They're cheap.
 
  PJ
 
 
 


Hi sharad,
I guess these changes will be for Centos only and will not effect the
windows heating up problem also.
Pl. clarify,
Thanks,
Abhishek jain
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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip]

 I do believe that Niyam has been volunteered :-) People at Sarai would
 probably be willing to pitch in if they saw a concerted effort, with a
 real chance of success.
[snip]

make that 'more than volunteered'.

am into serious professional-quality production with various tools and
gear and have figured out my way around most things that any
mainstream creative-type would need. ok enough talk. who do i contact,
when? i guess a meeting at sarai, with its excellent coffee (is it
still there?) would get me away from my comp for a little while.

meanwhile, last week i composed a 3:45 min piece of music entirely
using software tools under FOSS, from sound design to sequencing to
recording to sequencing, effects, pre and post-production to final
mix. burnt a cd and tested it on four to five different average
consumer stereo and hi-fi and car audio systems to see what different
sound-casts can do to it. was all set to publish it when i noticed
some human-errors so am back on my keyboard (qwerty behaves like a
music-keyboard when i do this)

in other news, raj mathur and friji have done an excellent job with
schizoid.in a psytrance internet radio. listen to some stuff there if
you dig that type of music.

kishore bhargava's blog mentions a great tool for photo-touchup

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] Eben Moglen lecture on software patents

2007-05-28 Thread Parveen Verma
Hi All
   
  Can you give me theroad map to reach there?
   
  
Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 28/05/07, Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Hello all,
 Below is an announcement for a lecture/discussion at IIC, Delhi at
 10.30am on Sat., 9th June, by Eben Moglen. He will speak on software


  
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[ilugd] Fedora 7 release

2007-05-28 Thread Parveen Verma
Hi 
   
  Is any one palnning to download Fedora 7
   
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7/Schedule

   
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Re: [ilugd] Eben Moglen lecture on software patents

2007-05-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 05:26 +0100, Parveen Verma wrote:
 Hi All

   Can you give me theroad map to reach there?

As always, Google Mama can be your friend, if you will
only let it be. The first hit from searching for
india international centre delhi gives the homepage
for the IIC, and the address is India International
Centre, 40 Max Mueller Marg, New Delhi 110003. It is
not very far from Conaught Place, or the Central
Secretariat Metro station.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Multimedia work at Sarai, CSDS

2007-05-28 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 05:18 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote:
[...]
 am into serious professional-quality production with various tools and
 gear and have figured out my way around most things that any
 mainstream creative-type would need. ok enough talk. who do i contact,
 when? i guess a meeting at sarai, with its excellent coffee (is it
 still there?) would get me away from my comp for a little while.

Cool. If you wish to drop by informally, you are, of course welcome.
I am there certainly on Mon., Tue., and Fri., but can be there any
day of the week with prior notice.

 meanwhile, last week i composed a 3:45 min piece of music entirely
 using software tools under FOSS, from sound design to sequencing to
 recording to sequencing, effects, pre and post-production to final
 mix. burnt a cd and tested it on four to five different average
 consumer stereo and hi-fi and car audio systems to see what different
 sound-casts can do to it. was all set to publish it when i noticed
 some human-errors so am back on my keyboard (qwerty behaves like a
 music-keyboard when i do this)

What might be useful then is if you could put together a small demo,
and come and present it at a Sarai Mon. meeting. I can put together
any hardware/software that you require. Let me talk to people here,
and we will see when we can find a mutually convenient time. Or, if
you have the time, do drop by, and you can chat with me, and whoever
else is present.

 in other news, raj mathur and friji have done an excellent job with
 schizoid.in a psytrance internet radio. listen to some stuff there if
 you dig that type of music.
[...]

Trance isn't my thing, at least at the moment, but I am aware of
Radio Schizoid, and am in touch with Raj and Friji. We are going
to try and do some things with them, but streaming radio is not
our immediate priority.

Regards,
Gora


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Re: [ilugd] Centos - 4.x - VAIO notebook heating up

2007-05-28 Thread Sharad Birmiwal


 Hi sharad,
 I guess these changes will be for Centos only and will not effect the
 windows heating up problem also.
 Pl. clarify,
 Thanks,
 Abhishek jain


Yes - enabling this feature will affect CentOS only.


Sharad Birmiwal
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