Re: [ilugd] [OT] Re: amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Linux Lingam]

On Dec 1, 2007 7:21 AM, Sudev Barar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> TOP:
> This thread is winner for most poetic expressions used ;-)
> Niyam are the master in the dark hours of delhi.
>


i was a poet struggling for freedom.
then FOSS and ilug-d ruined me.

now i am free,
but that gpl ain't no poetic license.

:-)
niyam
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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 07:26:32 +0530, Raj Mathur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Devendra Laulkar wrote:
>> [snip] Moral of the story - Stick to one application for transferring
>> any songs.

> ...or perhaps buy your MP3 players from a more FOSS-friendly and less
> DRM-friendly company.

I have an IPOD. I use the free rockbox software on it (I did
 have to build a cross compiling tool chain on my machine). Plays
 oggs. Works as a 60GB USB key.  What more can one ask? 

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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[मनीष]

On Dec 1, 2007 7:32 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 01-Dec-07, at 7:26 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
> >> Moral of the story - Stick to one application for
> >> transferring any songs.
> >
> > ...or perhaps buy your MP3 players from a more FOSS-friendly and less
> > DRM-friendly company.
>
> stick to ogg
>

Samsung YP-U3 is thy name. :)  Small, simple, functional, FM tuner,
voice recording, plays usual suspects /and/ ogg.  And no MTP bullshit.

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Re: [ilugd] No enigmail in lenny?

[Raj Mathur]

On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Sudev Barar wrote:
> I have installed debian lenny on my laptop but need enigmail
> encryption package for thunderbird (okay icedove) but it is not there
> in main, non-free or contrib repository.
> Can I use older versions package? How?
> Pointers?

http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/66-Documentation-Release-Enigmail-for-Debian-Thunderbird-and-Mozilla-Mailnews.html
 ?

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[ilugd] No enigmail in lenny?

[Sudev Barar]

I have installed debian lenny on my laptop but need enigmail
encryption package for thunderbird (okay icedove) but it is not there
in main, non-free or contrib repository.
Can I use older versions package? How?
Pointers?

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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Kenneth Gonsalves]

On 01-Dec-07, at 7:26 AM, Raj Mathur wrote:

>> [snip]
>> Moral of the story - Stick to one application for
>> transferring any songs.
>
> ...or perhaps buy your MP3 players from a more FOSS-friendly and less
> DRM-friendly company.

stick to ogg


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Re: [ilugd] Reg. squirrelmail LDAP

[Raj Mathur]

On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, bipin sartape wrote:
> hello ,
>   we have an corporate email server which is using
> squirrelmail and using SquirrelMail's LDAP local
> address book to present all of the information as if
> it was a single address book.
>
>   i want to know whether the same authentication
> used for squirrelmail can be used for  authentication
> for other applications like ftp,web browsing  using
> LDAP of squirrelmail.

LDAP is LDAP, so you really shouldn't have any issues using the 
Squirrelmail database for authenticating any LDAP-aware app.  As far as 
I know Squirrelmail doesn't use any weirdo attributes, so you should be 
able to use standard attributes for user ID, password, etc.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Raj Mathur]

On Saturday 01 Dec 2007, Devendra Laulkar wrote:
> [snip]
> Moral of the story - Stick to one application for
> transferring any songs.

...or perhaps buy your MP3 players from a more FOSS-friendly and less 
DRM-friendly company.

Regards,

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[ilugd] [OT] Re: amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Sudev Barar]

TOP:
This thread is winner for most poetic expressions used ;-)
Niyam are the master in the dark hours of delhi.

On 01/12/2007, Linux Lingam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if iTunes ain't the one.
> don't wanna use it, don't wanna install it, don't wanna know it.
> which is the one that ensures when i start with connectin' for some juice
> from my faithful iron here,
> my bonney does not lie over the ocean?


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[ilugd] Reg. squirrelmail LDAP

[bipin sartape]

hello ,
  we have an corporate email server which is using
squirrelmail and using SquirrelMail's LDAP local
address book to present all of the information as if
it was a single address book.

  i want to know whether the same authentication
used for squirrelmail can be used for  authentication
for other applications like ftp,web browsing  using
LDAP of squirrelmail.

thnx


  

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Re: [ilugd] [Solved] Firefox problem

[Linux Lingam]

whoa! i dunno what's wrong with firefox. a little more than yesterday, i saw
an update, when i installed it, the update manager warned me that this was
not signed in or something. pre-occuped with my work i foolishly cared not
to read the warning and slapped that ok button with my mouseclick.
i kept workin.
in the morning around 10 am when i got back to work and booted my machine,
this thing became slower and more unresponsive than me after a lazy
afternoon lunch of makki di roti, sarson da saag tey makhan.


i had my hands off the keyboard patiently waiting for 15 to 20 minutes for
the hardisk to stop spinnin', the system to get back to me. it seldom did. i
coud not even get a console on F2 or 3 without atleast a 5-minute wait.
those figures aren't exaggerations. alarmed, i ran top that took ages too. i
noticed openoffice, amarok, and firefox were swapping themselves in and out
like atm cards in a lone kiosk on diwali eve. that's all they could do:
dance. took me another 5 minutes to kil them. been plagued with the problem
since the whole day.

finally, have just booted into faithful ol' breezy badger to restore
normlacy in my work. gosh! badger looks so archaic. the apps are so old.
yeesh!

i wonder exactly what happened to my system. top does not show anything
wrong.

?
n
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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Linux Lingam]

>
>
>
> Moral of the story - Stick to one application for
> transferring any songs.
>
> -Devendra.
>
>
if iTunes ain't the one.
don't wanna use it, don't wanna install it, don't wanna know it.
which is the one that ensures when i start with connectin' for some juice
from my faithful iron here,
my bonney does not lie over the ocean?


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Re: [ilugd] [Solved] Firefox problem

[Kazim Zaidi]

On 01/12/2007, Puneet Lakhina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]...

> I dont have either Grease monkey or BetterGmail. Turns out the problem
> was the firebug addon. I disabled that and it worked. Now to the next
> part, on why firebug is causing the problem. Is there a log that
> mozilla creates which can probably provide more info as to what went
> wrong??


That's how it always goes. Whenever you find a bug, disable extensions one
by one until
the bug is no more. Firebug has recently caused me a lot of problem. It made

my web developer toolbar, stumbleupon toolbar, del.icio.us buttons
irresponsive.
Firebug didn't cause problems ever before. I think its because of a recent
update.

The problem is still not fixed. If I enable Firebug, the toolbars go bad
again.

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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Devendra Laulkar]

Hi,

>P.S. In any case, it is possible to restore the iPod
to >"factory  
>defaults" erasing everything on the disk. Even if the
>initialization  
>goes awry you can always connect it to iTunes and
>restore it.

Not necessarily. My ipod was rendered unusable for
about 3-4 months before I could get it working.
Basically I used amarok on Ubuntu to transfer some
files , and later as soon as I used to connect the
Ipod to a win machine, Itunes used to crash. Later on,
even amarok stopped detecting the ipod. Even gtkpod
did not recognize the it.

Finally I used some freeware and deleted all the songs
from the ipod, and now I can use it using gtkpod.

Moral of the story - Stick to one application for
transferring any songs.

-Devendra.

 


  

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Re: [ilugd] [Solved] Firefox problem

[Puneet Lakhina]

On Nov 30, 2007 5:48 PM, मनीष <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Puneet, have you tried disabling Greasemonkey and BetterGmail addons?
>
I dont have either Grease monkey or BetterGmail. Turns out the problem
was the firebug addon. I disabled that and it worked. Now to the next
part, on why firebug is causing the problem. Is there a log that
mozilla creates which can probably provide more info as to what went
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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Linux Lingam]

>
>
>
> It depends on the firmware version. All versions except the latest
> one are supported by Amarok, libgpod, rythmbox et. al. and you can
> safely use them to create the iTunesDB. If you use the iPod with
> Linux only, i.e. never try to "upgrade" to the latest firmware via
> iTunes, the iPod will happily sing for you everafter.
>

thanks anant for whispering words of wisdom in my darkest hour.
so do i let it be?
there will be an answer,
to how do i discover the firmware version?
or do i let it be,
and sleep beatless tonight?

 :-)
niyam

>
> Cheers,
> Anant
>
> P.S. In any case, it is possible to restore the iPod to "factory
> defaults" erasing everything on the disk. Even if the initialization
> goes awry you can always connect it to iTunes and restore it.
>


oh! yeah, glad to know it gets back to where it once belonged.

get back ipod!

:-)
n
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Re: [ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Anant Narayanan]

> what gives?
> anybody, jimi hendrix wants to know are you experienced?
> have you ever connected a spankin' new pod straight out of the box  
> to the
> linux thing
> and got it singin' the blue-screen of death metal?

It depends on the firmware version. All versions except the latest  
one are supported by Amarok, libgpod, rythmbox et. al. and you can  
safely use them to create the iTunesDB. If you use the iPod with  
Linux only, i.e. never try to "upgrade" to the latest firmware via  
iTunes, the iPod will happily sing for you everafter.

Cheers,
Anant

P.S. In any case, it is possible to restore the iPod to "factory  
defaults" erasing everything on the disk. Even if the initialization  
goes awry you can always connect it to iTunes and restore it.

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[ilugd] amarok on ubuntu wants to initialize ipod

[Linux Lingam]

dear all,

have always heard that ipods work beautifully with ubuntu and with amarok.
so here's this fresh-mint sealed classic 80gb ipod on my desk, nah! not
mine. i wouldn't buy that overpriced undersized pineapple.

i connect the ipod, and rhythmbox wants to take over. i quit it, and open
the ipod icon on my desktop. transfer a sample file *.mp3 to the root folder
of ipod, disconnect, and find this cutesy musical hard-disk doesn't even
know of its existence, so i'm metaphorically listenin' to the sound of
silence.

my friend tells me it is imperative to download and install iTunes 7. blah
blah. comment ignored. some quick googling, and i discover after quitting
rhythmbox, launching amarok, open settings>media device. take the drop-down
menu, and request amar singh to handle the pretentious-sounding 'apple ipod
media device'. jay leno, interview how many ipod folks on the street know
the apple ipod is an apple ipod media device. :-)

a click on 'auto-detect' shows up the smartsy apple hard-disk. i click
'accept', and then in the task-bar, dutifully click 'connect'.
this is where things get very very interesting. amarok politely informs me:
it has found no iTunesDB, so should amarok initialize the ipod?

this is dodgy. would roger walters alter his lyrics to sing 'another brick
in the pod' ?
i panic, unplug the ipod, pack it back in its velvet black box and
shrink-wrap peel,
and scamper with my touch-typing to this mailing list.

what gives?
anybody, jimi hendrix wants to know are you experienced?
have you ever connected a spankin' new pod straight out of the box to the
linux thing
and got it singin' the blue-screen of death metal?

heck! why am i thinkin' of ankur rohtagi?
am i?


niyam bhushan
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Re: [ilugd] Firefox problem

[मनीष]

> However, do note that the Firefox that I use has been
> installed externally and from the repos (using apt-get
> / something). (Wops! we have gone off-topic ;) )

Puneet, have you tried disabling Greasemonkey and BetterGmail addons?

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox problem

[Roshan]

-- Roshan wrote:

[big snip]


> However, do note that the Firefox that I use has
> been
> installed externally and *NOT* from the repos (using
 ^^^

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox problem

[Roshan]

--- Anupam Jain wrote:

> On Nov 30, 2007 1:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > On 30-Nov-07, at 11:21 AM, मनीष wrote:
> >
> > >> afaik firefox on doze is far superior to
> firefox on linux or on mac,
> > >> because doze is their primary target
> > >>
> > >
> > >   In what ways?
> > >
> > >   I have been using both regularly since v1 but
> haven't noticed any
> > > differences in responsiveness or functionality
> (other than
> > > Tools->Options vs. Edit->Preferences ;-)
> >
> > appears faster, smaller footprint - have only used
> it a few times on
> > doze, and that too a year or so back.
> >
> >
> And that seemed enough evidence to you to proclaim
> that "Doze is their
> primary target"?
> 
> I routinely use Firefox on both Linux and Windows
> and I see no major
> noticeable difference..

For me:
Mozilla Firefox on works on Windows without problems
whereas it does freeze on Kubuntu Linux, at times, for
unknown reasons. I have been invoked to submit a bug
report by it so-called 'assitant/agent' on Kubuntu,
but not on Windows.

However, do note that the Firefox that I use has been
installed externally and from the repos (using apt-get
/ something). (Wops! we have gone off-topic ;) )

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Re: [ilugd] Firefox problem

[Anupam Jain]

On Nov 30, 2007 1:22 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On 30-Nov-07, at 11:21 AM, मनीष wrote:
>
> >> afaik firefox on doze is far superior to firefox on linux or on mac,
> >> because doze is their primary target
> >>
> >
> >   In what ways?
> >
> >   I have been using both regularly since v1 but haven't noticed any
> > differences in responsiveness or functionality (other than
> > Tools->Options vs. Edit->Preferences ;-)
>
> appears faster, smaller footprint - have only used it a few times on
> doze, and that too a year or so back.
>
>
And that seemed enough evidence to you to proclaim that "Doze is their
primary target"?

I routinely use Firefox on both Linux and Windows and I see no major
noticeable difference..

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