Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
On Sunday 16 Dec 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [snip] And it looks like you are getting an extra copy of this reply. You probably need to find a mail client that has the equivalent of a ``reply-to-list'' function. Any reasonable mail client today will have that. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
On Dec 17, 2007 1:47 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: if you mean that one cannot keep a wiki spam free if one allows non- logged-in users to post, explain these: If you are willing to volunteer to keep an eye on every edit and keep it spam-free, then ofcourse we can do that(the prominent ones you mentioned have dedicated teams looking at this). Else, this is probably a decision made by the admin keeping in the mind the ratio of maintenance overheads vs actual number of moderators for the wiki. Wiki had, as it has put on it's site, more than 1000 editors as of 2005 for the articles to monitor. But do we indeed have such kind of resource privilege. I don't think so. I don't know about your wiki, but I have had enough of my share of administrating public wikis, and I am ok with the loss of privacy that you are probably concerned with. Besides, as dear friend Karunakar has already pointed; having a track of regular contributors to the project has it's own share of benefits too. - Smruti ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ,--[ On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:03:46PM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: | On Sunday 16 Dec 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: | [snip] | And it | looks like you are getting an extra copy of this reply. | | You probably need to find a mail client that has the equivalent of a | ``reply-to-list'' function. Any reasonable mail client today will have | that. There is an option on Mailman preferences page, named Avoid duplicate copies of message, due to which Mailman won't send message to you, if you're already listed in recipients list (in To: or Cc: fields). HTH - -- Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ ·-- ·- ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHZkNWHy+EEHYuXnQRAspEAJwM3jf68USrJeTUwZ8CH4Mz4hZdtgCdHH9T wf06ku6S9k5oRcz5baGEyMk= =7IOb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] GPRS usb modems
I would like to know about experiences of people regarding compatibility of GPRS data cards/usb modems with linux. I understand that Tata Indicom has usb modems that support linux. They say so on their website. But I am not too keen to buy a Tata Indicom connection because of limited geographical coverage. Other options are BSNL, Airtel and Reliance. Airtel explicitly claims compatilibility with Windows only. I do not know if BSNL is giving USB modems at all. I wonder if one could buy GSM USB modems in the open market and stick in a sim card (Airtel/BSNL). If yes, which ones are compatible with linux. I know one could buy PCMCIA data cards in the open market and use with Airtel/BSNL sim. Which USB modems of Reliance are compatible with linux? Would appreciate any information. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
On Monday 17 Dec 2007, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla wrote: [snip] There is an option on Mailman preferences page, named Avoid duplicatecopies of message, due to which Mailman won't send message to you, ifyou're already listed in recipients list (in To: or Cc: fields). HTH Am aware of that and prefer not to use it, since then replies land up ONLY in my inbox and not in the list folder. Messes up threading of messages something awful. Much simpler if people would just use the appropriate tool (in this case the reply to list function) for the appropriate job :) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ Freedom in Technology Software || February 2008 || http://freed.in/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 12/17/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know about experiences of people regarding compatibility of GPRS data cards/usb modems with linux. I am using GPRS with my Linux Desktop (FC4) and it runs fine. I connect using my Nokia N73 with a USB data cable and the connection is a BSNL Postpaid. The speed is average 4KB/s just sufficient for browsing and moderate downloads. I understand that Tata Indicom has usb modems that support linux. They say so on their website. But I am not too keen to buy a Tata Indicom connection because of limited geographical coverage. Tata and Reliance offer wireless internet using CDMA technology. The speed you get with CDMA is better than GPRS but still not so great, about 4-5 times of what you get with GPRS. Other options are BSNL, Airtel and Reliance. Airtel explicitly claims compatilibility with Windows only. I do not know if BSNL is giving USB modems at all. I wonder if one could buy GSM USB modems in the open market and stick in a sim card (Airtel/BSNL). If yes, which ones are compatible with linux. I know one could buy PCMCIA data cards in the open market and use with Airtel/BSNL sim. In my view BSNL GPRS is much cheaper. Rs.100p.m. for Postpaid connection and Rs.199p.m. for unlimited GPRS in home circle. If you intend using GPRS then best option in my view is to have a GPRS capable handset with USB datacable and a BSNL CellOne connection. Which USB modems of Reliance are compatible with linux? Would appreciate any information. Vikas ___ Regards, Pawan Sood ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
In my view BSNL GPRS is much cheaper. Rs.100p.m. for Postpaid connection and Rs.199p.m. for unlimited GPRS in home circle. If you intend using GPRS then best option in my view is to have a GPRS capable handset with USB datacable and a BSNL CellOne connection. A decent GPRS capable handset with Edge technology (whatever that means) would cost much more than the USB/PCMCIA modems. The USB/PCMCIA modems cost less than Rs. 3000. I do not know of a phone which gives you GPRS/Edge at this price. Also, from what I have seen, the performance of phones in terms of speeds over GPRS connection varies a lot. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Taking a look... at some recent developments in Urdu computing (from BytesForAll, South Asia)
BYTESFORALL: A LOOK AT SOME URDU DEVELOPMENTS... Some useful and interesting links from the UrduComputing mailing list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urdu_computing URDU NVU RELEASE Huda Sarfraz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The current release of the Nvu localization includes the Urdu Nvu installer for Windows, which has it's GUI in Urdu. Work to be done for future releases includes changing the layout direction of Urdu Nvu to right-to-left. For download and installation details, please go to Urdu Nvu Windows Installer. http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/OSS/NVu.html Nvu (pronounced N-view) is a WYSIWYG HTML editor, based on the Composer component of Mozilla Application Suite and Gecko 1.7. It is a common WYSIWYG editor for Linux and is intended to be an open source equivalent to proprietary software like Microsoft FrontPage and Macromedia Dreamweaver (although to date it is missing many features they possess). As a WYSIWYG editor, it is designed to be easy for novice users and does not require any knowledge of HTML or CSS to use. The project was started by and sponsored by Linspire. Linspire hired Daniel Glazman, former Netscape Communications Corporation employee and CEO/Founder of Disruptive Innovations, to be lead developer. Nvu is available for Linux, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows, and it can be built successfully on any platform with the Netscape Portable Runtime. (Source: Wikipedia) * * * ONLINE DICTIONARY: Aijaz Akhtar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A very good Dictionary is now available on line. Its huge database, Unicode nature, and Nafees Web Naskh font give it an edge over other on line dictionary sites. Visit here: http://www.urduenglishdictionary.org/ [Works fine in FireFox 2.0.0.9, on Windows XP-SP2 with Urdu fonts and phonetic keyboard installed for MS Office. When doing Urdu to English search, you will need to switch your keyboard to Urdu from the language bar.] * * * GNU/LINUX WINDOW MANAGER xfce IN URDU: Aijaz Akhtar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very good news. A low end yet powerful window maker for Linux is now translated into Urdu by Makki. XFCE may not be as beautiful an interface as KDE or Gnome for Linux, yet it is powerful and consumes less processor power and is light on RAM requirements, making it suitable even on a pentium-1 or 2 machine with 400-500 MHZ processor (Correct me if I am wrong). So now one can download this, and configure your Linux (with XFCE preloaded, since it is not bundled with in some Linux disros) to use Urdu interface of Linux. Download presently from here: http://www.4shared.com/file/28497917/a3c84cdc/xfce_441_Urdu_Translation_by_Makki.html Soon to be uploaded in the download section of http://urduweb.org. Mohammed Ali Makki had already translated and made available Urdu Slax earlier that is available here: http://www.urduweb.org/mehfil/local_links.php?catid=19 * * * HINDI TO URDU TRANSLITERATOR: Abdur Radhid: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A beta version of Hindi to Urdu Transliterator is available on line. Please give your feedback. Visit here: http://hindi2urdu.tripod.com COMPILED IN PUBLIC INTEREST BY: * * * TYPING IN URDU, UBUNTU ETC: Ali Hussnain Shah: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a starting point you can use crulp's Urdu Layout for Linux at http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/keyboards/linuxphonetickb.html There should be one text file containing the key mappings. You can us it to learn and change it as you like and use that on linux. After you have developed a standard keyboard and if this should be included in all Linux distributions, submitting it to xorg (opensource implementation X Window System, on which KDE,Gnome are based) would be better.. their mailing list is at http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg After submission to xorg it will be included in all linux distributtions (debian, suse, ubuntu ...) as soon the distribution uses a new version of the X system. I think Sergey Udaltsov is responsible for handling of the X input system there in the list. * * * PAKTYPE NASKH BASIC FONT: Lateef Sagar Shaikh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have created PakType Naskh Basic 1.0 font, which is available at: https://sourceforge.net/projects/paktype http://groups.yahoo.com/group/paktype/files/NaskhBasic/1.0/ This font supports following languages: Amazigh, Arabic, Balochi, Balti, Berber, Brahui, Burushaski, Farsi, Fulani, Gojri, Hausa, Hindko, Kalami, Kanuri, Kashmiri, Khowar, Kurdish, Ladakhi, Maba, Malay, Mandinka, Ormuri, Pashto, Pathwari, Punjabi, Saraiki, Shina, Sindhi, Somali, Swahili, Torwali, Turkish, Urdu and Uyghur and others. This font is free for distribution and modification under GPL. Glyphs taken from ArabEyes.org font KacstQurn, having following copyright notice; KACST holds the copyright of the included Arabic font which is donated under GPL by KACST. URW Design and Development holds the copyright of the included Latin font which is donated under GPL by URW. * * * LIGATURE-BASD NASTALEEQ WRITING SYSTEM: Sarmad Hussain [EMAIL
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 12/17/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A decent GPRS capable handset with Edge technology (whatever that means) would cost much more than the USB/PCMCIA modems. The USB/PCMCIA modems cost less than Rs. 3000. I do not know of a phone which gives you GPRS/Edge at this price. USB/PCMCIA modems offered by Reliance/Tata will bound you to these operators. You cannot use Tata's USB/PCMCIA with Reliance network vice-versa. Plus, also have a look at their rates for time-based data-based plans. I am not sure about the case with GPRS modems. Also, from what I have seen, the performance of phones in terms of speeds over GPRS connection varies a lot. I have used Airtel GPRS here in Gujarat. Compared to that I find BSNL's GPRS much better, at least in Gujarat. Besides N73, I have also used Samsung X-700 with same results. -Pawan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
On 17-Dec-07, at 1:47 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: if you mean that one cannot keep a wiki spam free if one allows non- logged-in users to post, explain these: If you are willing to volunteer to keep an eye on every edit and keep it spam-free, then ofcourse we can do that(the prominent ones you mentioned have dedicated teams looking at this). Else, this is probably a decision made by the admin keeping in the mind the ratio of maintenance overheads vs actual number of moderators for the wiki. i had huge problems in my wikis - especially hidden spam. Hundreds of hits a day. Then I linked in akismet, and all my problems went away. djangoproject.com also uses akismet - and very little spam there too. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Plan for Freed.in 2008
On 17-Dec-07, at 2:03 PM, Raj Mathur wrote: On Sunday 16 Dec 2007, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [snip] And it looks like you are getting an extra copy of this reply. You probably need to find a mail client that has the equivalent of a ``reply-to-list'' function. Any reasonable mail client today will have that. my mail client is pretty reasonable and works perfectly for every other member in every other list I belong to (and this list too). I think you need to remove the reply-to yourself header you are adding. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 17-Dec-07, at 8:55 PM, Pawan Sood wrote: In my view BSNL GPRS is much cheaper. Rs.100p.m. for Postpaid connection and Rs.199p.m. for unlimited GPRS in home circle. If you intend using GPRS then best option in my view is to have a GPRS capable handset with USB datacable and a BSNL CellOne connection. I use airtel instant gprs when travelling. It is 20 rupees for 24 hours unlimited. It is enable instantly - takes about a minute after the SMS is sent. I use my nokia 6600 with bluetooth. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 12/18/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use airtel instant gprs when travelling. It is 20 rupees for 24 hours unlimited. It is enable instantly - takes about a minute after the SMS is sent. I use my nokia 6600 with bluetooth. It seems Airtel has different rates depending upon the Circle you are in. Here in Ahmedabad, Airtel offers GPRS on prepaid @Rs.15/day unlimited which can be activated/deactivated by an SMS.. It earlier used to be Rs.10/day. The same thing on Airtel postpaid was earlier costing Rs.600/month. Regards, Pawan Sood ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 18-Dec-07, at 10:03 AM, Pawan Sood wrote: I use airtel instant gprs when travelling. It is 20 rupees for 24 hours unlimited. It is enable instantly - takes about a minute after the SMS is sent. I use my nokia 6600 with bluetooth. It seems Airtel has different rates depending upon the Circle you are in. Here in Ahmedabad, Airtel offers GPRS on prepaid @Rs.15/day unlimited which can be activated/deactivated by an SMS.. It earlier used to be Rs.10/day. The same thing on Airtel postpaid was earlier costing Rs.600/month. prepaid unlimited for a month is 375 here. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ Foss conference for the common man: http://registration.fossconf.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Reply-To-List feature in mail clients (was) Re: Plan for Freed.in 2008
Raj Mathur wrote: You probably need to find a mail client that has the equivalent of a ``reply-to-list'' function. Any reasonable mail client today will have that. Thunderbird doesn't, AFAIK. Other than mutt and possibly (x)emacs, which other clients support reply-to-list? - Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
On 17-Dec-07, at 8:55 PM, Pawan Sood wrote: In my view BSNL GPRS is much cheaper. Rs.100p.m. for Postpaid connection and Rs.199p.m. for unlimited GPRS in home circle. If you intend using GPRS then best option in my view is to have a GPRS capable handset with USB datacable and a BSNL CellOne connection. I use airtel instant gprs when travelling. It is 20 rupees for 24 hours unlimited. It is enable instantly - takes about a minute after the SMS is sent. I use my nokia 6600 with bluetooth. Kenneth Gonsalves I use (rather, stopped using due to *pathetic speed*) LG RD 6130 mobile to connect to internet on OpenSuse 10.3. Figuring out how to do it was simpler than expected - dmesg told me where the modem is and I passed this info to KPPP. This mobile was provided by Reliance two years back it costed me around 5,500. The unlimited access plan from Reliacne will cost Rs. 1500 in Karnataka (not 100% sure), which is way too costlier than speedier BROADBAND plans from any other service provider. Also, you can think of a mobile phone as an alternative option to a data card (CDMA). Presence of reliance being wider than TATA Indicom, Reliance is better than TATA in this regards. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GPRS usb modems
Well, I use idea Delhi's daily rental plan at the rate Rs. 5/day unlimted use of both WAP internet it gives enough browsing and light download speed and I think its works abosolutely well with my ubuntu fiesty fawn 7.10 - Bharat On 12/18/07, Vikas Upadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17-Dec-07, at 8:55 PM, Pawan Sood wrote: In my view BSNL GPRS is much cheaper. Rs.100p.m. for Postpaid connection and Rs.199p.m. for unlimited GPRS in home circle. If you intend using GPRS then best option in my view is to have a GPRS capable handset with USB datacable and a BSNL CellOne connection. I use airtel instant gprs when travelling. It is 20 rupees for 24 hours unlimited. It is enable instantly - takes about a minute after the SMS is sent. I use my nokia 6600 with bluetooth. Kenneth Gonsalves I use (rather, stopped using due to *pathetic speed*) LG RD 6130 mobile to connect to internet on OpenSuse 10.3. Figuring out how to do it was simpler than expected - dmesg told me where the modem is and I passed this info to KPPP. This mobile was provided by Reliance two years back it costed me around 5,500. The unlimited access plan from Reliacne will cost Rs. 1500 in Karnataka (not 100% sure), which is way too costlier than speedier BROADBAND plans from any other service provider. Also, you can think of a mobile phone as an alternative option to a data card (CDMA). Presence of reliance being wider than TATA Indicom, Reliance is better than TATA in this regards. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Bharat Verma Linux Registered User : 456154 New Delhi - 25 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
