Re: [ilugd] Audio capture in browser !! need suggestion ??
I'd think a Java applet would be the most browser not to mention possibly non-free if sun's java is used. (use gij for making applet if you want it to be assured free.). If thats not an issue please go ahead and use sun's java. Even though Sun claims java is released under GPL not all components come through GPL and the whole exercise will be eyewash till everything comes through under gpl. (thats why it continues to be in non-free sections of distros). Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [ILUG-GOA] RedHat/Fedora Crisis
Hi I also read the article. Comments inline. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/11 Sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Compare this with the Debian situation some days back. There were jokes and cartoons about the same but nobody ever thought of questioning the Debian's FOSS culture of sharing things with users and developers. Do you think that (not hiding information from users or developers) is bad? Communities and organisations need to have completely free management practices also at all times (even when in a crisis). Humour is a part of life and its should be taken with a pinch of salt. Debian's actions may have been made fun of but they're definitely not wrong. (even those cartoonists appreciate that). Debian has been lauded for that. I think the difference between the approach to resolve the problem gives a clear picture. Well, today it is RH/Fedora in the situation, tomorrow it could be Ubuntu or Gentoo or Mandriva. Lets accept the facts and move ahead. It really did gave us an idea of how two communities reacted to similar incidents and the Bruce compared the two approaches and gave what he thought about it. If there is factual inaccuracies, please provide them. From my casual reading of it I don't think there seems to be any factual inaccuracy. Cheers Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് GPLv2 I know my rights; I want my phone call! DRM What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) Join The DRM Elimination Crew Now! http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-DRM-Campaign ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Firefox 3.0 static build
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tanveer Singh wrote: Its such a royal mess that I don't even want to go there again(did it once and ended up screwing everything up, was luckily building in a separate dir, so rm did the work I did have rpms for a firefox-3beta3 set for el4/i386 and x86_64. Given a lazy sunday afternoon I might be tempted to pull them out and see if an update can be done for something newer than that. The other option is to just download the tar.gz from mozilla.org and drop them into a dir under ~/ - use that. Should work. I had also tried using it on an old machine with an OS of similar vintage. It couldn't be used due to various libraries being older including gtk amont others. So it may not be that simple. Like he says 2 more are needed. Personally I find firefox2 is sufficient for all needs and most greeds. Whats that special thing in firefox 3 which you are looking for? - KB ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ Regards Gajendra ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Audio capture in browser !! need suggestion ??
On Saturday 13 Sep 2008, gajendra khanna wrote: I'd think a Java applet would be the most browser not to mention possibly non-free if sun's java is used. (use gij for making applet if you want it to be assured free.). If thats not an issue please go ahead and use sun's java. In this case it's important to distinguish between the various levels of freedom involved in this discussion: 1. The freedom to write and distribute the applet and make the source code available under a FOSS licence. 2. The freedom to run the applet. 3. The freedom to compile the applet. Whatever Java you use, you can always make freedom 1 (to make and distribute the applet and source) available to your users. Freedoms 2 and 3 (to run and to compile) may be related, since they're both dependent on the underlying libraries and classes that specific versions of Java make available for development and deployment. I don't really know whether or not all the Java audio/multimedia libraries that are needed to achieve the OP's task are available in the free Java implementation(s). However, unless the underlying classes are protected by patents, I'd assume that all Java versions will eventually have them regardless of their current availability. Assuming the required multimedia stuff isn't patent protected I'd advise Narendra to go the Java route even if his users can't currently use a totally free Java implementation to run the applet. The applet will remain FOSS, and as and when the free Java achieves multimedia compatibility with Sun Java his users can make a choice on whether to continue using Sun Java or to use a free JRE. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Deadline for Sarai FLOSS fellowships extended to midnight, 21st Sep.
Hi all, As I will be pretty pressed for time the coming week, and as I have received several frantic last-minute requests, the date for submissions to the 2008 Sarai FLOSS fellowship programme has been extended to midnight IST, Sun., the 21st of Sep. If you have sent me a proposal over the last 2-3 days, I will be getting back to you by tomorrow (Sun., 14/9). The original announcement is online at http://www.sarai.net/fellowships/floss/2008-floss-fellowships-call-for-proposals and a PDF copy of the announcement is available at http://www.sarai.net/fellowships/floss/sarai-floss.pdf Please feel free to circulate these far and wide. Regards, Gora ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
I just got myself a dell vostro 1310. It came with windows vista but I promptly removed it and installed ubuntu. Among the basic things that are not working yet, the three most important ones are 1. Wired network 2. Wireless network (broadcom card, will need ndiswrapper) 3. Sound Ubuntu recognised the ethernet device (wired) but strangely is unable to connect using it. I am writing this e-mail from another machine. This old machine can connect to the network using dhcp or a static ip. At this moment, on this old machine my /etc/network/interfaces file reads as follows. * auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 auto eth0 * The same configuration on the new dell vostro machine does not connect me to the network. If I set it to connect using dhcp, it says No DHCPOFFERS received. Could someone point me to what I may be missing? I will of course be happy to provide any further information you may want. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Firefox 3.0 static build
gajendra khanna wrote: I did have rpms for a firefox-3beta3 set for el4/i386 and x86_64. Given a lazy sunday afternoon I might be tempted to pull them out and see if an update can be done for something newer than that. ok, so here is why I didnt bother with the ff-3 released packages, because they are already a part of RHEL4/CentOS-4. Make sure your machine is updated... So it may not be that simple. Like he says 2 more are needed. I disagree. FF-3 builds fine with the included libs. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Audio capture in browser !! need suggestion ??
Thanks for all inputs. I will go with Java / plug-in mechanism, For me the sharing of content and creating / recreating the contents in collaborative framework is matter more. I will try to avoid non-free and patented libraries. I have started learning Java Applet, so i will get more information for exact implementation and free/non-free issue. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
I have same chipset in my desktop an with kernel version 2.6.24-18-generic I have added following kernel command line to make it work pci=routeirq Please try the above and add it at boot and see if it resolves the issue. Could you please explain what does this command do. I tried and it worked. But only once. I updated the packages. But then I put pci=routeirq in the menu.lst, so that it will be called at boot. But next time it does not work!! I tried rebooting, checked the command, ... but no luck. This is weird. Could you please help. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :) I agree. This machine, however, is for someone else who has is somewhat familiar with ubuntu and would not want to try other distributions. And my take is, the jump from windows to ubuntu has been a big one for someone with a long experience of having used only windows. Let him stick to whatever distribution the person is okay with until all temptations of shifting to windows are gone. I'm a bit surprised that you, well-informed about the dangers of unsupported cards, still went ahead and bought a laptop without first checking whether all the hardware was supported or not. How come? Well, purchasing the computer is a complex decision. First, most of what you get in the market is bundled with some hardware that comes with proprietary drivers for windows only. And, by and large, on linux, there are ways of handling most of these hardware problems. So you have ndiswrapper for wireless cards and things like that. True the performance is not as great as it would be if you had proper drivers. But then it works okay. Do you think that this confidence is misplaced? Second, the decision to purchase also depends on cost, assessment of problems with service and repairs, and a lot of other things. :) Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
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