Re: [ilugd] Re: test ... please ignore
Sharninder Singh wrote: Or alternatively the concerned person could have just been patient for somebody else to mail to the list. This list is not such low activity that a person cannot be patient to receive a mail from it. But enough said on this. I think he gets the idea and next time he will not do it. Hopefully... yup .. got the msg. I already said I'm sorry for hoggin your bandwidth .. thread closed .. hopefully .. or is it? Im just testing please ignore ;) /ducking grinning and running -- It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: test ... please ignore
Sharninder Singh wrote: yes, You were supposed to give it a pass. Sorry, for hogging your bandwidth people, I was just testing if the filters I have set in my mail client (sylpheed) are working fine. I'm using sylpheed for the first time today. You could have just sent a mail to yourself with [ilugd] in subject line to test the filter if the filter was based on the subjectline. If the filter was based on To/CC email you could have telnet to your mailserver at port 25 and sent a mail spoofing the To email address in the DATA. Cheers! Pankaj -- It is practically impossible to teach good programming style to students that have had prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Centrino and Linux?
Viksit Gaur wrote: Hi! I'm experimenting with a laptop with a centrino chipset, and was wondering if anyone's configured the chipset with any distro? Plus, would using kernel 2.6, make a difference if compared to 2.4? browsing through one of the magazines, I read a news story about centrino announcing support for linux on their lap's look at the website or google. Cheers! Pankaj ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Linux Delhi January 2004 Meet
I volunteer to show how to write a simple game in SDL. plus some tips and tricks on game programming. But I need a debian machine to do it on. or someone who knows how to get all the dev libs to get working on RH. On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 10:21:11AM +0530, Sudev Barar wrote: SudevOn Tue, 2004-01-06 at 17:54, Tarun Dua wrote: Sudev 1. We need a venue ( preferably a location with a PC with CDROM and if Sudev possible an LCD projector ) Sudev Members can propose venue(s) they can provide or arrange for. Sudev SudevI stand by with my offer for meeting hall / projector BUT at my office Sudevin Faridabad. Will make demo of LTSP even easier. Sudev-- SudevSudev Barar Sudev SudevLearning Linux Sudev Sudev Sudev___ Sudevilugd mailing list Sudev[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sudevhttp://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ---end quoted text--- -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] xfree86 4.3 for woody
Since you need to get it to work with woody it means that you would have to backport it yourself. Just get the source and compile it yourself or try to find some other backport. google might help :) for backports and other (non-free *hush* *hush*) stuff I have this in my sources.list. The unstable is there cuz I use sid. deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main one very crude way to trurn rpms/ tar balls into debs is to use alien. HTH, Spoon. On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 09:19:19AM +, Manish Sharma wrote: ManishGuys, Manish ManishI need alternate source of xfree86 4.3 for Woody as people.debian.org/~mmagallo Manish Manishdoesn't work for me (probably wrong syntax in sources.list - am working on it) Manishand packages.debian.org is down. :( Manish ManishPlease let me know if anyone knows an alternate location.Would also like to Manish Manishhear experiences from people who have tried to create debs from rpms or source. Manish ManishAnd if anyone has all the related debs on disk, I will be glad to pay for the Manishburning and courier charges too. ---end quoted text--- -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] The debian compromise
Hi, There is a LOCAL ROOT EXPLOIT in all 2.4 kernels before 2.4.23: http://xrl.us/66p, Compromised machine info: http://xrl.us/65c Exploit Advisory: http://xrl.us/66p Patch: http://xrl.us/67f no new packages are being uploaded get more info at http://www.wiggy.net/debian/ Pankaj -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] userlinux
I dont know if this was posted to the list earlier but Bruce has a proposal up at userlinux.com UserLinux: Repairing the Economic Paradigm of Enterprise Linux Bruce Perens [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perens LLC FIRST DRAFT: Please send corrections. The Problem Enterprise users have embraced GNU/Linux. But the very aspects that make Linux desirable, its low cost, Open Source nature, and the way it gives customers more control over their software, are under attack by Linux vendors bent on increasing shareholder value. Businesses are paying more as Linux distributions demand a per-seat cost and service lock-in for software that they didn't develop and that others support. Many of the early adopters of Linux are small but profitable industries with extremely sophisticated needs, and commercial Linux distributors simply can't afford to pay much attention to them while larger markets are waiting. more at: http://www.userlinux.com/white_paper.html -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] ram for speed
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 03:30:17PM +0530, LinuxLingam wrote: LinuxLingamfriends got this old celeron some 700 odd mhz type pc. with 64mb ram. he LinuxLingaminstalled redhat8 on it, and it runs really slow, especially when it LinuxLingamcomes to openoffice. LinuxLingam LinuxLingamhe decides to upgrade ram to a nice 64 + 128 MB. Whats is this the stone age? wanna run gnome or kde? on deadcat. get atleast 256 Megs of RAM I run Gnome 2.2 on my Pentium II 266 box with 512 Megs of ram works like a charm. LinuxLingammachine still slow. i remembered something about swap disk being LinuxLingamoptimised for ram. checked his swap. was earlier set to 200mb. do you LinuxLingamthink i need to change his swap to some other size to make the machine LinuxLingamgo a little faster. or is it a dead horse he just can't flog? BTW My swap os 500mbs. - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/nVio7v3NbZTFJeIRApapAJ4oZco4KESpSTLiUVbQWavouRjYBACfbwT8 k4qbOx7DUe+Zx6wt+qqXV3A= =PW5e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] MBlaster II for linux too?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well! the author is somewhat right. Because a virus written to exploit M$ boxes will make them choke the network. Secondly, If a Linux box is running an application on the target port it will have to take the massive DOS of the exploited M$ machines on the network. Even though the worm/virus might not be able to exploit the *nix boxes it will take them down anyways. PS: I'v seen it happen. On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:53:37PM +0530, LinuxLingam wrote: LinuxLingam I'd take the assertions about a single virus running on Winduhs, Linux and Unix (what's that, anyway?) with large handfuls of salt. The [snip]] - -- Raju LinuxLingami wonder what the author meant. i doubt he/she meant a single virus, but LinuxLingaman exploit that may exist in both systems. [snip] - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/nVpe7v3NbZTFJeIRAq5MAJ0R1iTnKMgrwOHyyqCd3lFsJKf6GgCeP5xu AsYsdkF8R2ejH5AkAuPa52Y= =Sbm9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] New resource - Skip a burger at McDonalds get a KNOPPIX 3.2 bootable CD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:31:46PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mayank2coolResource ID: 63 mayank2coolTitle: Skip a burger at McDonalds get a KNOPPIX 3.2 bootable CD he he I like the sales pitch. Do i get a cola with it? :) - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/kRoC7v3NbZTFJeIRAugqAJ9ke81qfkhVl121hqgZA00AzPE/ywCgrfDH 7/c5CwhJ3mxXgqx3SQj6EYY= =k0CG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Postfix+Squirellmail or Qmail+Sqwebmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:03:27PM +0530, Mani wrote: ManiHi, ManiI want to replace an imail messaging server (running on NT) with Qmail Manior postfix. ManiI already know of Squirelmail, but what I really want to know is Red Hat 9.0 Manibundles Postfix with squirellmail, has Red Hat integrated the two? or is it Manithe same (effort wise)as downloading the Squrellmail and postfix and Maniinstalling it on say Debian? Same effort. ManiI am even considering Inter7s SQwebmail. and Courier IMAP. Mani ManiBut I dunno, if courier-MTA requires QMAIL or it has its own SMTP server. Mani ManiWhat are the options in Linux to have a good messaging solution in place? ManiWhere I can have over 500 Mailboxes, and allow users to accesses mail thru a Manibrowser, store their address books in a LDAP/mySQL server... if you install Postfix you can do that with mysql. - --end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gwNl7v3NbZTFJeIRAg1WAKDTr1p4UHWAOxIMkV74T+nJeM3mSwCgttlT KJT2ewF6rlncTQsv1dJYxrM= =9n+X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] free scripts for emailing HTML forms
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 09:18:33PM +0530, Mani wrote: Maniare there any free scripts (perl/PHP) available that allow automatic Manie-mailing (an option where I can specify the SMTP server address) of HTML Maniforms? perldoc -m CGI perldoc -m Net::SMTP - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gwPK7v3NbZTFJeIRAng9AJ9fu1aOsU7XmzNxH0FX8mhroBgtNACgs/vk eekuT72nYlwRYUV6LkcdzEI= =qIGJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: hi need guidance
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 06, 2003 at 11:57:52AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: SandipOSN Partner wrote: Sandip SandipI have a good hand in SQL and was doing D2k , but now feel moving to open Sandipsource but unable to choose a language as java is not my cup of tea , Sandipplease tell me which language would be fine to develop softwares in line Sandipof Sandiphospital management system or ERP based . Sandip Sandip SandipThere is quite some information on the web regarding implementation of SandipERP using Zope (http://www.zope.org). Look for various ERP software Sandipavailable at sourceforge(like Compiere) (http://sourceforge.net) Sandip PHULS just cuz you have a bending towards python does not mean that you do shameless promotion. come one Zope? does it even work? the last time I saw zope work was on a P4 box with 512 Megs of ram. when you type 'ls' after starting zope well you have just invested in a hour of processing. it crawls NO it dsnt crawl it sucks. I will not be shameless and so not suggest Perl. ;) - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/gG537v3NbZTFJeIRAifgAKCy+Ct/l4HhjDNEKDQswT+YVfN1aQCgnVeR WNdw1PtoetV4Dxohgk7mQbA= =HoH9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Java HotWire Client Announcement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 03:34:22AM -0700, shah tushar wrote: shahHi, shah Well guy's I have completed a java Hotwire client shah(with GUI :) ) based on spoonman's C hack . I need shahsome place to post it if some can provide some place shahand also since I havn't got a Hotwire connection shahmyself , so some one to just run it for a while to shahcheck :\ Mail it to me i will put it up with hotconnect. - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fdge7v3NbZTFJeIRAkZsAKDNbrItoc4h567zkawE37Lu4stPYACggLe2 wNzzw/IEb2dz5+AoeyjwMdg= =Hw9+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Hotwire Linux Client
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 10:19:44AM -0500, Ankur Tyagi wrote: AnkurHello Everyone, Ankur AnkurCan Anyone tell me how to make Internet work on Linux Platform. I have Redhat7.2 and Hotwire Cable Connection. I have no client software of Hotwire for Linux Platform. Could anyone help me in solving this problem? Well ! few months ago I wrote a client for hotwire The project is called hotconnect and is located at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hotconnect/ hope it helps. end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fGqG7v3NbZTFJeIRAmNXAKDNEXMkTWYfDmgnz0CiFPDvF1CNvQCfSTdq I6MZJ0sUq9RxlA+VET96Zsc= =FVSZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] more bugs in ssh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 more bugs/fixes were filed for openssh. upgrade ASAP. /me shakes his head and sighs. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/bf+F7v3NbZTFJeIRAh5IAJ4zfFafpwW+nOvxG78srDMu8WbyzACg7H5N 9ZvHq4uNP3e4gbOEebMXfKI= =LNMh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] possible ssh *ROOT* exploit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, Remote *ROOT* ssh vulnerability in the wild, fix for woody (stable) is available now from security.debian.org (3.4p1-1.woody.2). For sid (unstable), grab 3.6.1p2-8 from http://incoming.debian.org/ . For sarge (testing), use woody's or backport sid's yourself. if you use deadcat. well! whatever. nevermind. http://www.openssh.com/txt/buffer.adv - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/aK/z7v3NbZTFJeIRAudMAKDsTVssaR+UgGqKfC3YnCwfr+L+fQCeLnxl WzzUQg/xRooA+bQYZFl2fb8= =WRE7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] which linux distro+release?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:01:48AM +0530, linuxlingam wrote: linuxlingamthink i have finally found that command, though i need you guys to linuxlingamcounter-check and verify it on your respective distributions of gnulinux. linuxlingam linuxlingamit occured to me through a throught that struck me watch a pc boot up linuxlingamwonder how they do so much branding of the distribution during boot up but linuxlingamnever afterwards...?' try /etc/issue or /etc/issue.net works in most of the distros but is very easy to be modified by the sys ad. but most people let it be the way it is. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ZiFG7v3NbZTFJeIRAvN3AKCJU/XQtx56gZDWdkqVndsMRfVC6gCfTnco ToWKJx627hu54x7e3qtz5PE= =3NGx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] hi all
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:53:23AM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: SanjeevOn Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:53 PM [GMT+0800], Sanjeev Sanjeev SK Sanjeev SanjeevSorry, I think you have the wrong group. Sanjeev Sanjeev-- SanjeevSanjeev, not in Delhi, Gupta I apologies on behalf of all infants who failed to get the humor. Perhaps, It is our short coming. I think the welcome to the group message must educate these infidels on how to appreciate humor on the list. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ZVFb7v3NbZTFJeIRAjccAKDeo4YG5o2ml6OT6dSF5/Mhshc//ACgwWTn anAgcXxTAj+bgi7wkdxyRns= =4+RD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] cds required
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 09:44:42AM +0530,oldmonk == raju == Raj Mathur == Raju Mathurwrote: RajI'm outlining the methodology if you want to get CDs from me. If you Rajhave other resources (e.g. Dhruv Gami and Sandip Bhattacharya are Rajwilling to cut CDs for people in East Delhi, or have a look at the Well well well! how is dhruv managing to cut cds for people in east delhi from north carolina. :) got ya oldmonk, nasty business this cut copy paste is I tell ya. :-/ - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/WPJe7v3NbZTFJeIRAiFuAKCwDTr9OoW0mEdJHojnwkra6l/IVwCfZhW2 lgBXpbnyywQXyoa69f8dLzg= =AICu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: Hotwire blocks ICMP everywhere?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ok ICMP and shit aside these guys are horrible at network design and implementation too. I have spent the last 2 hours trying to figure out their pathetic network configuration. these guys are sharing network with three MCO as in local providers so thus its three sub-domain and they have fucked up the net-mask pretty damn well. So i call up help-desk a very expensive and futile phone call after 10 minutes of explaining the guy what the fuck is wrong he tells me sir, please double click on Internet explorer ok i forgive his dumbness and tell him that i dont have that application and i cant even authenticate using their client he says please wait and after 5 minutes of music he says sir, now double click on Internet explorer and see I dont know what this guy did and claimed to do. but i clicked my phone off and decided to go on a further blindfold drive . I cant ping any of the servers as they are happily blocking all ICMP and thus cant figure out what the hell is going on. so i do a TCP-dump and try to ping and scan each and every machine on my network and then i write a script to connect to all of the ips that are left and have to figure out what the net-mask is to reach that box. I do that by switching between 3 different networks just blindly. Thanks to all my time i devoted to scanning the network for shared c:\ drives earlier this month :). I got one server to accept my user-name and password so i setted my net-mask accordingly and set up that server as my gateway. BTW the network this server is on is not supposed to accessible to me at all because My IP belongs to a different sub-domain. So these guys have defiantly fucked up somewhere or my understanding of how network works is absolute rubbish. observation : their user database seems to be central as a server of some other domain accepts my user-name and password and authenticate me. I should be given a blindfold network configurator of the month award or something or these guys should be shot. On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:51:52PM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sandip+++ Varun Varma [05/09/03 09:22 +0530]: Sandip Sandip The problem is that these guys have blocked all ICMP messages, not just Sandip the echo/reply messages. Sandip Sandip So, even the ICMP port unreachable messages for the traceroute UDP Sandip probes aren't getting through. Sandip SandipAdditionally my ntp servers have stopped working and ntpdate also freaks out Sandipbecause no NTP replies seem to be coming. Is tehre a problem with this too Sandipfor all Hotwire subscribers? - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/WPk57v3NbZTFJeIRAng7AKDgY+9fyHeJHkxqBHIgNn1mhaHMdACfcnRy kp00fzpz6mSSNCoSxa4WgTk= =yBbn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Software Patents issue closes Knoppix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 11:58:24AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: Raj Narsingh == Narsingh Sahu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Raj RajSuggestions for making even the smallest bit of difference to this Rajissue welcome. Raj RajE.g., we could have a `Protest Blood Donation Drive' on Sunday the Raj31st and try to get it noticed. Well! I am up for blood donation Drive. But me thinks that it dsnt make sense to go out on a blood donation drive to protest. Why didnt someone bring it up on the meet? we could have made somekind of demonstration plans. Its too late now. But we must do something to get attention and do it fast. I am free on sunday and will present myself infront of the parlimant building with charts and markers :) red-cross is across the street. IS Some one else joining me there? - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/T5l/7v3NbZTFJeIRAkyMAKCjaz4FVej0Qijy/g7Z91ztOYDQhgCdHcbv W0555RXaQ+bRWEzNiL6V8RA= =cpsf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] how to Dual boot!!URGENT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:17:42PM -0700, jaspal sawhney wrote: jaspalHI GUYS jaspali have linux 7.3(only) running on my machine .i wanted jaspalto know how to get windows on to my machine (40 GB jaspalhdd) without disturbing my linux if it is possible .i jaspalhad durning installation opted to remove all jaspalpartitions on the hard drive nad get a fresh jaspalinstallation . Which version of windows do you want to install? windows 98 can only be installed on the first partition of the hard disk that is /dev/hda1 so if you have linux there tough luck mate. other versions like win 2000 also put something called ntldr in the first partition. I am not sure about this. so if your root filesystem is /dev/hda1 tough luck man you gotta reinstall. make another partition and format it ext3 and copy your /home directory there and when you reinstall windows on /dev/hda1 and linux on another partition *not* on the partition you put /home on. then load that partition as /home via fstab . you could save all your settings and stuff that way. dont forget to backup /etc too. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/TPl47v3NbZTFJeIRAqLRAJ91Mf0KB31N4o0GBcRSN+AZi37YUwCg4zuC AzmAPANg2hsEYK9G5XvhJIA= =m3lZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Hotwire blocks ICMP everywhere?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 06:40:34PM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sandip SandipCan users of Hotwire services in Delhi confirm this? I have been having difficulty Sandipmonitoring my connectivity for the past few days(which I do using simple ICMP pings), Sandip and contacted my Hotwire distributor about it. He informed me that due to Sandipthe recent spate of viruses all over net, the Hotwire folks have placed Sandipa firewall before all their customers which (I hope among other things) Sandipblocks all incoming and outgoing ICMP pings!!! I confirm this. Didnt I tell you this on the meet too - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Slc47v3NbZTFJeIRAi5KAJ48ltHMYmjDHz7ZDRWKSIpDJ5xcUQCgvnhj fORP1aFgDohs7XFaeXZhh7g= =uFFc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Monthly Meeting - Final Announcement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 08:26:35AM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: RajIdli sambhar sounds good, but IAC... Raj Raj[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# rpm -q postfix sendmail Rajpostfix-1.1.12-0.8 Rajsendmail-8.12.8-5.80 /me sees Dedcat and runs.. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/R0m/7v3NbZTFJeIRAu0ZAJ47HFFwv3XDOMLYFXAkhIm9wwoRWQCgsmX4 hcPmNjXXXw5GpHwkDVMveTc= =D87d -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Monthly Meeting - Final Announcement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 KishoreAgenda remains mainly the same. No projector unless someone can organise Kishoreand bring one but Raj has a nice monitor. Viksit and Pankaj will have to Kishoremanage with that for now. Well! The monitor is ok but what about the machine to actully install the freaking Postfix on? I doubt Raj will particularly enjoy me replacing his beloved sendmail.cf by my main.cf and master.cf's :) we might have to send him to buy idli sambar while I do that. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Rj737v3NbZTFJeIRAgtfAJsEj0/Rie3T+SCHI5oon4ABE7P7KACfT+I8 6B+M+2CgqhfkZhoMKf1QzvE= =Ixc8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Presentation for the Next Meet dilemma
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somehow, my name appeared on the speakers list too. I dont know how? must be some mischief on ll's behalf. but If I must I can speak on configuring spamassasin with postfix. Any takers? - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RJaf7v3NbZTFJeIRAuUSAJwO47lRvo0QkyAmZnpYvRCRC5u8OgCeLLMe 83W6KvgczEZ95S6Qo1HePTs= =SMKa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Isam, how to backup the data in online ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 04:47:33AM -0700, eyolia jayang wrote: eyoliaHi All, eyolia eyoliaSorry to ask this question, but i do not where to ask this for help ... eyoliaI have data running in ISAM in SCO Unix I want to backup them in online backup (hot backup). Is there a commands or tools I can use to to this ??? you bought the freaking OS ask for support from SCO. I think this should be the general advice to anyone asking for SCO help considering what the company is upto. :-/ - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RT8I7v3NbZTFJeIRArRnAKDqV4CbXCt/pXAW78rP+4XjlMopPwCgp4CR Q6GkAHy4HtNmVHQpMQTGDd0= =8Ddd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Client Machine's IP in PHP
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HASHwell , Problem is that , My PHP script installed in a webserver
HASH,I just want that whenever client request for that script,Script
HASHshould return the IP address of client machine.In other word we
HASHcan say that PHP Script should return the IP address of evey
HASHmachine , where it runs.
Where it runs? or IP of the person who visits your script?
$ip = getenv (REMOTE_ADDR); // get the ip number of the user
uf this dsnt work probably you have an old version of PHP
installed. try this instead
function getIP()
{
$ip;
if (getenv(HTTP_CLIENT_IP))
$ip = getenv(HTTP_CLIENT_IP);
else if(getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR))
$ip = getenv(HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR);
else if(getenv(REMOTE_ADDR))
$ip = getenv(REMOTE_ADDR);
else
$ip = UNKNOWN;
return $ip;
}
$ip=getIP(); //will call the function to get the ip of the user
hope it helps.
- --
all the things we keep inside,
are the things that really matter,
the face puts on its best disguise,
and all is well, until the heart betrays.
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Re: [ilugd] Query Linux Users Meeting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 11:10:07PM -0700, shyam kapoor wrote: shyam shyamPlease DELETE me from the mailing list. you have been erased. you have been subscribed to alt.animal-husbandry insteead. mails that you start getting from now will probably suit your taste and intrests. Thanks Dumbo click here- http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/QdSu7v3NbZTFJeIRAgULAKC3exAzWcT3m7JC/HtwRfn1Dlw8OACg6cMY C83AV+HFy/ZyIxe5eVS0S2M= =sMkc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] pop on public network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 01:15:52AM +0530, Robins Tharakan wrote: Robinshi, Robins Robins Robinsi just did a tcpdump on the local cable wallah network, and realised Robinsthat anyone with a Robinstcpdump -i eth1 -w file.dump Robinscan easily see my pop username/pwd Normal POP mail sessions, by their very nature, are insecure. The password goes across the network in clear text for everyone to see. anyone with a simple network sniffer can grab your password. There are many methods of achieving secure authentication already, such as APOP, KPOP, and IMAP. You can also do Secure POP via SSH. there is a mini HOWTO available on the subject. But Your mail provider may be unable or unwilling to use a more secure protocol. - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/QGuD7v3NbZTFJeIRAtXXAJ9AnZu5z3IU4QmFIH0G0jVPUov+iACaAljc 4Hd4rCaoeUEccqVtFVdNP6o= =h37N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] shell command in linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm, :O Probably, I did not read the mail properly or Probably I read too much into it. what I though was this guy wanted to find out if a bianary was compiled using a c compiler or a cobol compiler hence as a result I wrote my magnum opus perl script. :) but really? is it possible to distinguish between a bianary file compiled by a c compiler or another one. and is the way I proposed a correct way at all? - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/QRaw7v3NbZTFJeIRAuSAAKCuohcMZGOpn2+cUrnA1G8H8Un5sACg9amz 3NUQ+ZePKpkNmy2pmYvzfmA= =U81/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Re: Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 04:29:00AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: Sandip:) and also about sometimes not having choice. I know (and I am occasionally Sandipone of these) many people who have to use Windoze bozes because of Sandiprequirements at job. If that is the time that they have to keep up with the Sandiplist, they will use what they have to communicate. As long as the community Sandipbenefits from the participation of that individual, I dont think it should Sandipmake a huge difference what software the person is using... Sandip SandipYes, using OSS software is a good demonstration of what we are preaching, but Sandipwhen we can't use it, we respect the compulsions(if any) of the person to not Sandipuse it at that point of time ... A lot of GNU alternatives are available on the windows platform too. if only someone would try to make an effort. I think mozilla plus its mail client runs just as well on windows. there is sylpheed. http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/hi/index.html GNuwin2 is there. But, I am not judging anyone here. And my original reply was not intended to make Tarun look bad, guilty or anything it was to Shuvam but it invariably did that. Rajuoh, I don't know. You could be a lawyer who fights cases for the free Rajusoftware community pro bono, but still not use, want to use or know Rajuhow to use Linux or *BSD. Does that make you less of a contributor to Rajuthe free software community? IMO it's not a good idea to judge Rajupeople's ideals by what technology they use, in general. No, no one should be judged and no one should explain why he uses windows. but, is it really so hard to shift to an open source email client that debating about it on the mailing list seems like an easier option? I volunteer to download, install and personaly train Tarun if he can/ he wishes to shift to mozilla. and if mozilla dsnt comes up to his expectations as an email client he shouldnt be promoting or looking for ways to make any case stronger for opensource. I dont think henry ford ever bought a volksvagan. - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/P8YF7v3NbZTFJeIRAg0VAJwPhmdBMqPOv4w9gYtDAJESYoHWjACg8Tz0 uREsK76L9R0MdfFMb/+ftQo= =Wc2v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Office Depot Aids Monopoly{This is not a troll}
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 02:52:11PM -0400, Tarun Upadhyay wrote: TarunSpoonman, TarunP.S. meanwhile you keep using mutt and I will keep using outlook. What is Tarunopen source movement if not about choice? I admire your audacity. but, I agree on the point about keeping my mouth shut. and NO the open source movement is not about that. though I am in no way associated to the open source movement. I use free software and associate myself only with the free software movement. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Pohr7v3NbZTFJeIRAnr9AJ43Z4x7k8/qJSh1Y8jxlAP3QMbTxgCg0EKl 9/dDaRny9rfFSH9rW9Q3Pts= =Yf2X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Debian CDs ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:33:18PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: Ambar If you have a good internet connection you need only download the 1st Ambar CD. Rest all packages can be installed thru net. Using 1st CD itself Ambar you can use bf24 option. This loads kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 which Ambar has frame buffer support. AmbarMost people on this list are from delhi! I have not seen many places in Ambardelhi where you have enough bw to download debian packages off the net Ambar( Even a 2mbps link starts to look slow when u do that! I did. and that too on a 64kbps cable connection. I can bring the packages in the *meet* if ne one wants debian 3.0 updates :) 490M/var/cache/apt/archives - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PSqg7v3NbZTFJeIRAhblAKCATG99Z0NI6/jcS0xvxUds/8QxWgCg1Sm0 PF7+Fre8RqPD5idCcIC/Rbg= =kyOb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Debian CDs ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:33:18PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: AmbarGetting packages from an online source is good only if you either have a Ambarvery small total download or if you are on a fast link. It is quite nice to Ambarsee up2date running on a computer hosted at a decent datacenter, though! AmbarHaven't used debian much, so I don't know if debian has some nice offline Ambarfeatures that I might have missed out on. then i would have to say either the red hat mirrors suck or up2date sucks. come see apt-get running you'll be converted to debian in one day :) Ambar AmbarAmbar Roy Ambar Ambar Ambar___ Ambarilugd mailing list Ambar[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ambarhttp://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd - ---end quoted text--- - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/PSzI7v3NbZTFJeIRAmNqAKCnIZ0nMBvrxS9v8HVnhWW20JkS7QCeLHTL ys/B68DxZtVLh2GQhMS25lA= =DI9X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] GCC pulling the plug on SCO support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2003-08-03 Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] * README.SCO: New file. === As all users of GCC will know, SCO has recently made claims concerning alleged copyright infringement by recent versions of the operating system kernel called Linux. SCO has made irresponsible public statements about this supposed copyright infringement without releasing any evidence of the infringement, and has demanded that users of Linux, the kernel most often used with the GNU system, snip We have been urged to drop support for SCO Unix from this release of GCC, as a protest against this irresponsible aggression against free software and GNU/Linux. snip full mail-- http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2003-08/msg00191.html Anyone still got the balls to ask SCO support on a linux mailing list? :) - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/OtM57v3NbZTFJeIRArG7AJ9uZFFnpsSGpOB+Q4nLeXJ5Plh5AACeOlNr pZnKdeAwu+VG+eXv++CCsWU= =2xfh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Playing DVD on Debian Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:10:11AM -0700, Andrew John wrote: AndrewHi, Andrew AndrewI have a Andrew266 Mhz celeron Andrew196 Mb ram AndrewSiS 6215 V-Card with 2Mb VRam AndrewDebian Potato 2.2.x Andrew20Gb HDD AndrewI use MPlayer to watch video CDs comfortably. Just apt-get the new libxine and xine-ui and you are on your way to dvd playing. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/MECw7v3NbZTFJeIRAkxhAJ0esZP5mBcMd+ifULxSYldDvrew/wCg2S8J FSnspL+8d3oG1pePr/euBDQ= =bB39 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] just like that
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 03:36:17AM -0700, Priyadarshini - the Best!!! wrote: PriyadarshiniNever really believed in this until I joined an Priyadarshinin-number of times but a dud brain like mine couldn?t Priyadarshinigrasp the idea. And yes, an idea can change your life. PriyadarshiniIt did, once I tried to look in to the matters myself, Priyadarshiniseriously. I am working with one such firm that is in Priyadarshinito promoting the idea (and at times, !dea ). Coming What the F*** are you trying to say? what are you saying? where did you learn to write english? Priyadarshiniwith articles that talk pro freedom of software. Guys Priyadarshinilike you are also doing a great job. My work is Priyadarshinibasically to ?enlighten? people (yes, there are people Wow! enlighten my sorry ass too. WTF? Priyadarshiniin the real world who have no idea that there are PriyadarshiniLinux and you are condemning Microsoft?? No way, the Priyadarshinitheme here is to provide the user with the ?freedom?, Priyadarshinito let the programmer, the hacker inside you, free. PriyadarshiniSo, let the white pigeon fly, cut the red ribbon, Priyadarshiniunveil the stone and enter a new era where all are Priyadarshinibenefited from the geek minds. As I would like to put Priyadarshiniit; Use ? reuse, recycle!!! What? Is this guy for real? Or is someone just testing her version of megahal? in that case it dsnt work too well. sorry, i gave in to the troll. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/LQ7w7v3NbZTFJeIRAqSjAKCUFNlNLTXG5wn2qL3qaVaUe2CquACghh5m QR38MW7MBihFzX5M7+ivzpY= =oeQg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] SCO wants licensing fees from corporate Linux users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:40:12AM +0530, LinuxLingam wrote: LinuxLingammeanwhile, back to SCO, any bets on when they are going to lower their LinuxLingamgunsights from enterprise to govt, education, corporates, SOHO, LinuxLingamprofessionals, endu-users, developers . . .? As of now SCO is only targeting distributors of linux. And they have a problem only with the SMP part of the kernel. Normal users running non-SMP boxes should not be affected anyway I guess. But I think this time Freebsd is going to take away the market. Its happening exactly as before freebsd in the midst of a legal battle and people choosing linux for development. Now, Linux or part of the code may be dragged into a legal battle. I am sure what an intellegent System administrator will choose for his dual processor intel box. now that the freebsd SMP support is what it is today. which IMHO can easily take on any linux box in terms of performance. Even if its true that IBM copied SCO's SMP code into linux its just a matter of time before that code is scraped and someone writes something else. But, I dont take it as lightly as Raju does. this definately is a problem for linux and SCO's main objective is to spread Rumours so that uneducated ppl either stay away from linux or come to them. The educated however, when running a SMP box will also stay away and use something else. which no doubt will be freebsd. when more and more ppl start using freebsd it will no doubt have the market, users, bug reporters, beta testers and developers. Pankaj - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/JSM+7v3NbZTFJeIRAk0BAKCH4w/WFHz313nXbwErUZL2TqefYgCfY414 +UCxSGTuJSkJrL1uVgQpa5I= =FFX8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] SCO wants licensing fees from corporate Linux users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 04:27:51PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: SanjeevOn Monday, July 28, 2003 9:21 PM [GMT+0800=SGT], SanjeevYou may get away with lower damages paid to SCO, but you are still Sanjeevguilty. Yes true, but wont the fact that SCO is drumming so loud mean that Distros would start leaving SMP support out of their default kernels not out of fear but perhaps out of concern. Sanjeev Its happening exactly as before freebsd in the midst of a Sanjeev legal battle and people choosing linux for development. Sanjeev SanjeevHuh? When was this? Well! did you forget about ATT and Berkley before Freebsd was Freebsd. Most Open Source Unices, Linux and Free Software Foundations Hurd Share History personalities and at times code -- Frank Pohlmann SanjeevYes, but that does not take away liability for past offences. This is Sanjeevlike saying SanjeevIf SCO catches me stealing, I can always work honestly. This perhaps questions the free software development model. How can you stop someone for plagiarizing? - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/JKlw7v3NbZTFJeIRAsBsAKDWmI8jQ1oJJddbqKiM+Y3EkQqSjQCeMUWd TuXTEOuNWPzMWqpllsq9nNw= =XSTa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Freebsd 5.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ola, I have Freebsd 5.1 iso's The first and the second disk. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.1R/announce.html The second disk looks like a live cd. I havent booted it yet. But Tried to boot the iso on vmware. Here is the deal, I will try to make it to the Meet and will bring the iso's along. Anyone who wants it can copy em. I dont have a cd writer :( So, I am willing to personally deliver the iso's to the first person who offers to burn them on cd's for me for free. :) Cheers! - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/GTj/7v3NbZTFJeIRAkk1AJ9G6L0fCML74llpGMgYipF7hfO2KQCg53vO K0wCkiBxIF/FVquuTTiwjRc= =ZDsm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [humour]Stop this autoconf insanity
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Let's take a typical autoconf package. I'll call it package-xyz. Joe GNU/Linux User has just downloaded and untared this package. Like most users, the first thing he does is change directory to the newly-unpacked source tree and run a quick ls to see what files are there. To his delight, he discovers a configure script, indicating that he probably doesn't have to do any editing of Makefiles or other such craziness. Little does he realize the troubles awaiting him. He again does the typical thing and runs ./configure --prefix=/opt. The configure script runs for a while, then exits with an error which basically translates to You have an autoconf version which is three weeks old; please upgrade, but this is displayed in the most cryptic manner possible. He won't realize this is indeed what the error message means until he runs a few quick Google searches. He really wants to install this program, so he doesn't give up quickly. A few minutes later, he's run apt-get upgrade (or run whatever auto update his distribution uses). full article plus comments. http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/ - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/E/207v3NbZTFJeIRAo2qAKCvRJO0Y0Z1itm+jzCpLRqkr7qRnwCdEFME QiJhG34IdlUd+phhNu2/nXA= =Kurc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Important: Where to find a good shell space
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 04:20:28PM +0530, Abhishek jain wrote: AbhishekHi Friends, AbhishekI want a good 24 hour connected internet connected shell space . Can anyone suggest me one. AbhishekI shall be very grateful AbhishekPlease be quick as it is impoetant to me. If you just want a shell to play with pulltheplug.com if want to do more stuff rootshell.com HIH - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/DwCY7v3NbZTFJeIRAgGOAKCmDNQ5oSGB/GPO3aHjFrM2QU/UgACfTM9y FnhnC/EnyR21WLqg1ukq2n0= =Ugmf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Brilliant Interview with Tim O reilly
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 01:28:01AM +0530, LinuxLingam wrote: LinuxLingam however, i wish to strongly point out something about this article: he is LinuxLingam praising amazon sky-high for what its worth. and there is an inherent danger LinuxLingam in this which he has not pointed out: amazon is into patenting the LinuxLingam 'one-click' ordering system or something. patenting a clickstream is a new LinuxLingam low. and is quite fraught with danger should they succeed morbidly. think LinuxLingam about all the keystroke and/or mouse-click sequences out there, waiting to be LinuxLingam patenting. Read again, I dont think he is praising anyone. all he is saying is that, amazon and google are going to be big players. these people are not only selling a service, they are selling/renting software without themselves knowing about it. One day they will realise that what is the *real* market and they will realise that before people who are selling software today. And if amazon will buy oracle. google might buy redhat and that will have considerable effect on the development of redhat. The point he makes well though is about xbox and hobbists, hobbists is a word used in the older days for hackers. These are the people who invent. these will be the people who will keep pc alive and these are the people doing FLOSS development. LinuxLingam also, he fails to point out the irony of the 'internet' era. its biggest LinuxLingam success story [dubious?] is that of amazon's online bookstore. and what did LinuxLingam they do through the craze of the 'internet economy'? well, they sold books, LinuxLingam you know, deadwood paper products. schwing!!! This is ironical indeed, but isnt it a pragmatic approach for a company which is there only to make money not to introduce new concepts and ideas. That is the work of hobbiests. LinuxLingam i think the whole hardware+software+services+FLOSS world is in an era of LinuxLingam transition. no one really knows what is the emerging trend. what everyone LinuxLingam knows is that the old is ready to go to its funeral. only then will the new LinuxLingam be revealed, for what it is. I think the funeral is not comming as soon as microsoft would like us to belive. at least I would wait for the DOOM III specs to come out before buying my new PC. and no i will not buy a xbox instead. And what will be the scene in software? I really dont know. And I really dont know anyone who knows. -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. Key fingerprint = 7A60 AE0C C773 2CD2 74E3 29F4 EEFD CD6D 94C5 25E2 ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Can I attach GPG sig to the mailing list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 10:05:19PM +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: Raj Mathur -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Raj Mathur Hrm, why not just use a REAL e-mail client? See, it does signatures Raj Mathur so well! Ok, Arinandam, Robins I figured out how you can sign the message and not generate a assigned signature in mutt - the REAL email client. in you~/.muttrc just add set pgp_create_traditional=yes I know its a really horrible but it allows you to send mails to this list. Cheers. - -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/CGhc7v3NbZTFJeIRAsWiAJ9ZN/rG0TNrbXYYUgq7trP0KtbztwCgi8l0 Fb54eL/MiYIoHv5/sDQgByo= =wt/J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Few questions
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:57:50PM +0800, Sanjeev Ghane Gupta wrote: Ghane On Thursday, July 03, 2003 11:16 PM [GMT+0800], Ghane Spoonman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ghane try apt-get install linuxconf Ghane Ghane No! Linuxconf is bad. linuxconf breaks (itself) and breaks (thers). Ok, if ghane says its bad. It must be. Though I personally havent had too much crap from linuxconf. maybe it is because I dont use it much. -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. Key fingerprint = 7A60 AE0C C773 2CD2 74E3 29F4 EEFD CD6D 94C5 25E2 ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] hotwire client for linux
Does anyone use a hotwire connexion? and if so do you have a linux version of their authentication client. Plus! is there a strace like thingy for windows (Just in case i have to reverse engg). Its been years since I last used softice and I wasnt really a pro even then. Something else that would let me see file I/O and network I/O seperatly would be welcome. -- all the things we keep inside, are the things that really matter, the face puts on its best disguise, and all is well, until the heart betrays. Key fingerprint = 7A60 AE0C C773 2CD2 74E3 29F4 EEFD CD6D 94C5 25E2 ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
