Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: [snip] On a related note: KDE might not be as stable and smooth as Gnome right now but application wise it is showing potential! Installing the kdegames package brings in some of the nicest timepass (non FPS) games I have seen. One of my laptops is now permanently moved over to KDE. Er, could you change that to: KDE on Ubuntu might not be as stable and smooth as Gnome right now? I've been using KDE 3.5 on Debian (with Compiz and all effects!) for donkey's years now, and I can't remember when I last had a stability or smoothness issue. OTOH KDE4 is still a pretty buggy piece of software from all accounts -- for myself, I actively discourage people from using it. Well it has nothing to do with Ubuntu. I'm using KDE 4.2 and the right statement to make, as you did already, is that Latest version of KDE is not as stable or smooth as the latest version of Gnome. But as I said KDE 4 shows massive potential and it feels stable enough right now to be on my development laptop. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur r...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves Raju, Can radio schizoid be streamed to Amarok? I couldn't figure out a way to get Amarok to play pls files which Schizoid.in provides. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Friday 15 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: Raju, Can radio schizoid be streamed to Amarok? I couldn't figure out a way to get Amarok to play pls files which Schizoid.in provides. Desperately off-topic now, but still: In Amarok, click on the Playlists tab on the left. Right-click on Radio Streams and select Add Radio Stream... In the dialogue box that opens up, give the name as Schizoid PsyTrance and the URL as: http://schizoid.in/schizoid-psy.pls You can do the same for the Chill and Progressive channels. The playlists are, respectively: http://schizoid.in/schizoid-chill.pls http://schizoid.in/schizoid-prog.pls Presumably there is also a way to configure your browser to automagically invoke Amarok for playlist files (MIME type audio/x-scpls). Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Thursday 07 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. See if kword will show you the comments. Not exactly a PDF reader, though. I like to stick to Gnome so no KWord. I did try openoffice though with ghastly results. Actually you can install KWord on any machine that has X. KWord != KDE. The Epilogue: I finally took the plunge and downloaded Kubuntu 9.04 so that I can try out KWord. But would you believe it, I don't really need to use KWord - Okular works perfectly! So I suggest other people in the same situation use Okular. Hopefully someone will add the same functionality into Evince sometime soon. On a related note: KDE might not be as stable and smooth as Gnome right now but application wise it is showing potential! Installing the kdegames package brings in some of the nicest timepass (non FPS) games I have seen. One of my laptops is now permanently moved over to KDE. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: [snip] On a related note: KDE might not be as stable and smooth as Gnome right now but application wise it is showing potential! Installing the kdegames package brings in some of the nicest timepass (non FPS) games I have seen. One of my laptops is now permanently moved over to KDE. Er, could you change that to: KDE on Ubuntu might not be as stable and smooth as Gnome right now? I've been using KDE 3.5 on Debian (with Compiz and all effects!) for donkey's years now, and I can't remember when I last had a stability or smoothness issue. OTOH KDE4 is still a pretty buggy piece of software from all accounts -- for myself, I actively discourage people from using it. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. Take this opportunity to write a patch to fix Evince to show comments. File a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/evince/ and get started right away. -- Artagnon (.com) Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Thursday 07 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. See if kword will show you the comments. Not exactly a PDF reader, though. I like to stick to Gnome so no KWord. I did try openoffice though with ghastly results. Actually you can install KWord on any machine that has X. KWord != KDE. While that's true, KWord would require me to install KDE libraries which I don't want to do (unless I am sure that will solve the problem). BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF? I didn't know that! Well it doesn't. That's what I meant by ghastly results.. Haven't tried the extension that Sankarshan mentions. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear anupam, if i read your need correctly, you wish to view and comment on documents in a collaborative environment. Hence the need to read comments in pdf. You mention you've asked people to move from msoffice fileformats to pdf. Maybe it's too late to recommend another workflow, but here's what i use: ask everyone to turn on 'record changes' and 'view Changes' in oo.o on any platform. Plus oo.o allows you to embed comments in-line. It works. In hindsight, that's what I should have suggested. The problem here is that asking people to send me DOC files instead of DOCX usually draws a blank stare. They have no idea what I am talking about Do you want a Word doc or not?. I have to explain how to NOT choose the default extension and instead save as a Word 2003 compatible document and that is too complicated for them. Microsoft really hit a home run here with creating confusion. If instead I ask them to send me only PDF files, they understand what needs to be done. I had assumed that atleast reading comments would be well supported in Linux. I was wrong. the other option is to use a CMS on which you upload your files and add comments on the cms. Example: plone. Well the comments have to be on specific parts of the document, so this is not an option. on another note, please share whether installing acroread helped. Sort of. I can read comments easily. Still cannot edit them but that is a lower priority right now. When I really do need to edit / add comments I will use PDFEdit. Xournal's PDF support seems pretty good though and it's a very useful application if you have a tablet. It doesn't help my situation but for people sharing PDF files between GNU/Linux machines, it's another good option. -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thursday 07 May 2009, sankarshan wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF? I didn't know that! http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport I found the above independent of this thread as I needed to import a PDF (v1.3) file. I get garbled data. For me the extension does not work. I am using OO 3.0.1 (32 bit) downloaded from OO's site on a stock openSUSE 11.1 (32 bit) desktop. Can someone please confirm whether this extension works for them - please report Distro/Version, OO version (32/64 bit). Thanks -- Arun Khan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Arun Khan kn...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thursday 07 May 2009, sankarshan wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF? I didn't know that! http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport I found the above independent of this thread as I needed to import a PDF (v1.3) file. I get garbled data. For me the extension does not work. I am using OO 3.0.1 (32 bit) downloaded from OO's site on a stock openSUSE 11.1 (32 bit) desktop. Can someone please confirm whether this extension works for them - please report Distro/Version, OO version (32/64 bit). Thanks -- Arun Khan Works for me on Ubuntu 9.04 (32-bit) out of the box OO 3.0.1(32-bit ofcourse) Cheers Vivek ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
Anupam Jain ajn...@... writes: The problem here is that asking people to send me DOC files instead of DOCX usually draws a blank stare. They have no idea what I am talking about Do you want a Word doc or not?. I have to explain how to NOT choose the default extension and instead save as a Word 2003 compatible document and that is too complicated for them. Microsoft really hit a home run here with creating confusion. [#include standard disclaimer about MS docx format being evil] OK, maybe the workprocess you can apply is to use a docx converter like odf-converter on your machine? PJ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
Hey all, What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. The only thing I can think of right now is to install wine with foxit. But that seems like a copout. Anyone has any other *better* ideas? -- Anupam PS: I am desperately waiting for the day when people switch over to DjVu and ditch PDF for good. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
have you tried installing acrobat reader under linux, maybe even under wine? it may save you the trouble of installing win or mac. regards n On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. The only thing I can think of right now is to install wine with foxit. But that seems like a copout. Anyone has any other *better* ideas? -- Anupam PS: I am desperately waiting for the day when people switch over to DjVu and ditch PDF for good. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. See if kword will show you the comments. Not exactly a PDF reader, though. Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. See if kword will show you the comments. Not exactly a PDF reader, though. I like to stick to Gnome so no KWord. I did try openoffice though with ghastly results. I also tried the Linux version of foxit, no sign of comments (Evince was better in that it atleast shows the yellow comment bubbles). Comments do work on the windows version so the linux version seems to be behind. Finally installed 'acroread' from medibuntu repositories, a massive 100 MB beast. It's ironic - I don't use acrobat even at work where I'm stuck with windows. Acrobat is a resource hog and is always asking for updates. Well on the brighter side, it's better than receiving docx and pptx files - which is what I was getting before I forced people to convert to pdf - and which is why I can't start complaining about PDF (that won't make anyone happy). -- Anupam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thursday 07 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: On Wednesday 06 May 2009, Anupam Jain wrote: What's the easiest way to read PDFs with embedded comments (created with Acrobat Professional) on GNU/Linux? Evince (the default gnome viewer) displays the yellow comment icons but does not show the text. For the time being I am using PDFEdit to manually navigate the tree and extract the comments but it is *very* inefficient and time consuming. Evince has the ability to read/edit comments in its roadmap but I need a solution now. See if kword will show you the comments. Not exactly a PDF reader, though. I like to stick to Gnome so no KWord. I did try openoffice though with ghastly results. Actually you can install KWord on any machine that has X. KWord != KDE. BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF? I didn't know that! Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathurr...@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
Dear anupam, if i read your need correctly, you wish to view and comment on documents in a collaborative environment. Hence the need to read comments in pdf. You mention you've asked people to move from msoffice fileformats to pdf. Maybe it's too late to recommend another workflow, but here's what i use: ask everyone to turn on 'record changes' and 'view Changes' in oo.o on any platform. Plus oo.o allows you to embed comments in-line. It works. the other option is to use a CMS on which you upload your files and add comments on the cms. Example: plone. on another note, please share whether installing acroread helped. regards niyam -- niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] GNU/Linux PDF viewer with ability to read comments
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: BTW, OpenOffice reads PDF? I didn't know that! http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport -- http://www.gutenberg.net - Fine literature digitally re-published http://www.plos.org - Public Library of Science http://www.creativecommons.org - Flexible copyright for creative work Sent from Pune, MH, India ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
