Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-29 Thread Ravi Shanker

On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote:

 kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely
 on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting
 carefully. so you can save your energy. :-)
 hehehee
 
 :-)
 niyam

Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical
architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and
server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It
gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to
developers so that they can build something best for you. 
In the book The Google Story or somewhere on internet, the Brin or
Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google
miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search
engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research.
Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make
Opensource better. ANd not  opensource is the only topic in compute and
IT.
And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google
have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in
less better computer world.

Please search for the youTube video The Future of technology : By Eric
Schmidt national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING.
April 26, 2006.
and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are
giving out money to make world better.

Cheers

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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-29 Thread Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल
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Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote:

 kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely
 on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting
 carefully. so you can save your energy. :-)
 hehehee

 :-)
 niyam

 Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical
 architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and
 server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It
 gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to
 developers so that they can build something best for you.
 In the book The Google Story or somewhere on internet, the Brin or
 Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google
 miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search
 engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research.

Google technologies, would have been more better, if they've released
them under GPL kind of license like Affero GPL[1]. By doing that, their
technologies will be reviewed by community. And license like Affero
GPL, will also provide protection to Google, from their technologies
becoming closed sourced.

 Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make
 Opensource better. ANd not  opensource is the only topic in compute and
 IT.

It seems, you mean that Microsoft is also doing good by closing their
source code. And BtW, Microsoft also has their research division
Microsoft Research, doing some cool research, and spending lots of
money on RD stuff. And open source is not some topic, it is a philosphy.

 And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google
 have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in
 less better computer world.

Free Software is not about money, it is about freedom to do whatever
you wanted to do (including modifying) with software, except making it
closed source. So, if Google charges money for their service, it is
fine, they're running clusters of servers, and they need someway to
pay for the cost of running clusters.


 Please search for the youTube video The Future of technology : By Eric
 Schmidt national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING.
 April 26, 2006.
 and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are
 giving out money to make world better.

 Cheers

 --
 
 Ravi S. Kr
 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com
 Blog: http://ra21vi.blogspot.com
 

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Thanks
Ashish Shukla
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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-29 Thread Ravi Shanker
You didn't get what exactly I wanted to say.
ophs, no its not you, Its me who cannot make the thing clear what
actually I want to say.
Anyway, let me out of this discussion. Sorry for what I said.

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 21:53 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote:
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 Ravi Shanker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote:
 
  kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely
  on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting
  carefully. so you can save your energy. :-)
  hehehee
 
  :-)
  niyam
 
  Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical
  architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and
  server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It
  gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to
  developers so that they can build something best for you.
  In the book The Google Story or somewhere on internet, the Brin or
  Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google
  miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search
  engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research.
 
 Google technologies, would have been more better, if they've released
 them under GPL kind of license like Affero GPL[1]. By doing that, their
 technologies will be reviewed by community. And license like Affero
 GPL, will also provide protection to Google, from their technologies
 becoming closed sourced.
 
  Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make
  Opensource better. ANd not  opensource is the only topic in compute and
  IT.
 
 It seems, you mean that Microsoft is also doing good by closing their
 source code. And BtW, Microsoft also has their research division
 Microsoft Research, doing some cool research, and spending lots of
 money on RD stuff. And open source is not some topic, it is a philosphy.
 
  And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google
  have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in
  less better computer world.
 
 Free Software is not about money, it is about freedom to do whatever
 you wanted to do (including modifying) with software, except making it
 closed source. So, if Google charges money for their service, it is
 fine, they're running clusters of servers, and they need someway to
 pay for the cost of running clusters.
 
 
  Please search for the youTube video The Future of technology : By Eric
  Schmidt national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING.
  April 26, 2006.
  and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are
  giving out money to make world better.
 
  Cheers
 
  --
  
  Ravi S. Kr
  Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com
  Blog: http://ra21vi.blogspot.com
  
 
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 Thanks
 Ashish Shukla
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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-29 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 29-Jun-07, at 10:01 PM, Ravi Shanker wrote:

 You didn't get what exactly I wanted to say.
 ophs, no its not you, Its me who cannot make the thing clear what
 actually I want to say.
 Anyway, let me out of this discussion. Sorry for what I said.

no need to be sorry - you made several vaild points and started an  
interesting thread. Other people have other points of view. So dont  
take it as personal criticism


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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-29 Thread das
These are the times when State intervenes every moment into every bit of
personal data: more as a preemptive bid. Are all these bits and pieces,
Google Earth, Wikimapia, and now this Google Desktop just ploys in that
maneuver? Just curious what other people on LUG List are thinking? 


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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-28 Thread Linux Lingam
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070628/tc_pcworld/133543

 Google Inc. plans to launch a Linux version of Google Desktop on
Wednesday, almost three years after the product's launch for the Windows
operating system.

[snip]

yawn!

01. first it's late.
ironic. google treats the gnulinux end-user community rather shoddily with
development and availability of end-user software. Yet google is the first
to use all thing gnulinux to fuel its multi-billion dollar empire.

no prizes for guessing: gnulinux-versions out only because hey! the foss
community is collateral damage in the business-rivalry between google and
microsoft.


02. it's not free software.

they deserve a google-whack!

for all my whining, i do use google's web-search engine, and am using their
gmail service to send this email. i also appreciate their summer-of-love
distortion, and their releasing a whole of developer-centric stuff back to
the community.

however, is there any way of communicating with google that just being
useful is okay, but not being community-focussed and with proprietory
software for end-users, they are as, ummm... evil [is that a good word?] as
microsoft?

proprietory, free-to-use software is freeware. and those are as valuable to
a software-firm, as giving away free cigarettes is for a cigarette-vendor.

:-)
niyam bhushan
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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 28-Jun-07, at 4:22 PM, Linux Lingam wrote:

 however, is there any way of communicating with google that just  
 being
 useful is okay, but not being community-focussed and with proprietory
 software for end-users, they are as, ummm... evil [is that a good  
 word?] as
 microsoft?

and this mail is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)


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[ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-27 Thread Lokesh Bhog
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070628/tc_pcworld/133543
   
  Google Inc. plans to launch a Linux version of Google Desktop on Wednesday, 
almost three years after the product's launch for the Windows operating system.
   
  The application, designed for indexing and finding data in PCs, as well as 
for searching the Web, also comes in a Mac OS X version, introduced in April of 
this year.
  
   
  Like the Mac OS X version, Google Desktop for Linux is a beta, or test, 
product. The Windows version shed its beta tag already, meaning Google 
considers it a more stable and mature product.
   
  
  At this point, Google Desktop for Linux does not feature the Sidebar and 
Gadget features present in the Windows version.
   
  
  This Linux version, developed by Google's Beijing engineering team, is 
available in English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, Dutch, simplified and 
traditional Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Portuguese. 
   
  
  Google Desktop for Linux runs on Debian 4.0, Fedora Core 6, Ubuntu 6.10, SUSE 
10.1, and Red Flag 5. 
   
  
  Users can download it for free from http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html

   
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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-27 Thread Vikas Rawal
Is google desktop any better than say beagle?

Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-27 Thread Gaurav Mishra
On 6/28/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is google desktop any better than say beagle?

No i don`t think so , I have a dual boot machine and i find beagle
much accurate than Google desktop

 Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux

2007-06-27 Thread Ravi Kumar
Thats right, Beagle uses resources heavily. I too have disabled it and using
Tracker which uses less than Beagle. But again, after installing tracker,
Application and system reactions are poor to some extent.
I havent uses Google Desktop.
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