Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 16-Aug-07, at 11:24 AM, G Karunakar wrote: this 'indian' bug has been around in ubuntu for quite some time now - why dont the ubuntu fans do something about it? its not really a bug neither ubuntu specific!.. thats just because in recent versions of Xorg , the keymaps were organized country wise ( earlier it was language wise!)... so all maps for Indic scripts are in one map file 'in' ... in this devanagari one has be set to default - (one of the maps in a file has to be default)... so its available as 'India', while other maps could accessed by specifiying the variant too in(guj) , in(bolnagri) etc.. the explanation is not convincing - somebody goofed. My ibook doesnt have his problem - it has two devnagiri keyboards, two for gujarati, two for gurmurkhi and 3 for tamil - all correctly named. So why cant Xorg do the same - or has no one complained to them? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 8/16/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16-Aug-07, at 11:24 AM, G Karunakar wrote: the explanation is not convincing - somebody goofed. My ibook doesnt have his problem - it has two devnagiri keyboards, two for gujarati, two for gurmurkhi and 3 for tamil - all correctly named. So why cant Xorg do the same - or has no one complained to them? File a bug and Close the thread -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- See you at 'Freed.in - freedom in technology software' - India's leading free and open source community event. 28- 29 September 2007, New Delhi. Entry free, on first come basis. Register at http://Freed.in Linux User #348873 ILUGD General Secretary, GZLUG Moderator RKGIT Alumni(Guiding Light) Software Engineer , UnitedVillages http://gauravmishra.info/blog When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 10:51 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: this 'indian' bug has been around in ubuntu for quite some time now - why dont the ubuntu fans do something about it? To be very frank, I also quite disliked it. But, then, a lot of FLOSS workers together did it for us: and tried to rationalize it in some way or other. I don't know exactly what is the constitutional status of Hindi as a language in India, but, obviously, if I am an individual Indian, Hindi does not exactly represent me, so for the Hindi setting to come after selecting India as a whole came as a bit of colonial-sounding to me. Anyway, these dedicated workers, who are making this whole thing available for us, did not think that way. And so: learning to live in a world that I did not make. --- das ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 8/16/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16-Aug-07, at 11:24 AM, G Karunakar wrote: this 'indian' bug has been around in ubuntu for quite some time now - why dont the ubuntu fans do something about it? its not really a bug neither ubuntu specific!.. thats just because in recent versions of Xorg , the keymaps were organized country wise ( earlier it was language wise!)... so all maps for Indic scripts are in one map file 'in' ... in this devanagari one has be set to default - (one of the maps in a file has to be default)... so its available as 'India', while other maps could accessed by specifiying the variant too in(guj) , in(bolnagri) etc.. the explanation is not convincing - somebody goofed. My ibook doesnt have his problem - it has two devnagiri keyboards, two for gujarati, two for gurmurkhi and 3 for tamil - all correctly named. So why cant Xorg do the same - or has no one complained to them? Actually its more of a presentation issue.. how the keyboard selection tool is dealing with it. for Xorg part... its to be either specified in xorg.conf (in XkbLayout ) or by setxkbmap -layout 'in(Hindi),in(ben)' etc.. In KDE the selection is first select the country then select your language map. (but since default is set to devanagari... if no selection of language is made it defaults to it). Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 16-Aug-07, at 12:10 PM, G Karunakar wrote: Actually its more of a presentation issue.. how the keyboard selection tool is dealing with it. for Xorg part... its to be either specified in xorg.conf (in XkbLayout ) or by setxkbmap -layout 'in(Hindi),in(ben)' etc.. In KDE the selection is first select the country then select your language map. (but since default is set to devanagari... if no selection of language is made it defaults to it). mandriva also has a default under India (dont know what it is), but it has an option for devanagri. One of the many reasons I dropped ubuntu and went back to Mandriva -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
Hello Friends For one of my Hindi-speaking colleagues in Calcutta I am installing Ubuntu. I am a regular user of the Bangla things in Ubuntu. What I do is that install the Bangla fonts and add a keyboard layout (in my case Probhat) from the System-Preference-Keyboard-Layout menu. But, in case of hindi, I installed all Hindi things from apt-get, they are all OK, but I am not getting any Hindi Keyboard in the India section of Add Keyboard Layouts. There are Bangla, Tamil, Gurmukhi, and others, but no Devnagari or something like that. What to do? Something else I have got to install? --- das ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
Hello, OK, but I am not getting any Hindi Keyboard in the India section of Add Keyboard Layouts. There are Bangla, Tamil, Gurmukhi, and others, but no Try selecting India(You do not have to select from drop down options), add it and select it and reboot your X. It will work. :-) -- Regards Rakesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 21:21 +0530, Rakesh Pandit wrote: Try selecting India(You do not have to select from drop down options), add it and select it and reboot your X. It will work. :-) So many thanks friend. This worked after installing India as a whole, not any subgroup. And all the keyboard layouts are changing as expected. I did not have to restart X, because all the Hindi things were already loaded in the system. Now, please, another help: what is the name of this default Devnagari layout, and where can I get its layout map? With Thanks das ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
Got the keyboard layout for Devnagari from the Net. So, all problems are solved. --- das ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 15-Aug-07, at 8:56 PM, das দাশ wrote: OK, but I am not getting any Hindi Keyboard in the India section of Add Keyboard Layouts. There are Bangla, Tamil, Gurmukhi, and others, but no Devnagari or something like that. What to do? Something else I have got i think ubuntu calls hindi as 'indian' -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 16-Aug-07, at 10:25 AM, das দাশ wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 06:51 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: i think ubuntu calls hindi as 'indian' Yes, finally I could do it. And got the layout from the Net too. Everything is working fine now. Thank you. this 'indian' bug has been around in ubuntu for quite some time now - why dont the ubuntu fans do something about it? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hindi Keyboard and Ubuntu
On 8/16/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16-Aug-07, at 10:25 AM, das দাশ wrote: On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 06:51 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: i think ubuntu calls hindi as 'indian' Yes, finally I could do it. And got the layout from the Net too. Everything is working fine now. Thank you. this 'indian' bug has been around in ubuntu for quite some time now - why dont the ubuntu fans do something about it? its not really a bug neither ubuntu specific!.. thats just because in recent versions of Xorg , the keymaps were organized country wise ( earlier it was language wise!)... so all maps for Indic scripts are in one map file 'in' ... in this devanagari one has be set to default - (one of the maps in a file has to be default)... so its available as 'India', while other maps could accessed by specifiying the variant too in(guj) , in(bolnagri) etc.. Karunakar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September 28-29, 2007 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
