Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I've been running an ASUS P8P67 Pro with an i5 2500K with Ubuntu 11.10. HTH. I've had a lot more issues due to my Radeon card than the mobo, Everything ran out of the box. But you will definitely find yourself irritated with the fact that only Windows is able to harness everything. For instance, half the sensors will fail to show up, and only Windows can shut off one or more of your fans on demand. If you're box runs 24x7 that does matter. There is a problem with suspending the session that's the same with Windows, OS X and Linux. Rishab Arora On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 1:30 AM, ilugd-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.orgwrote: Send Ilugd mailing list submissions to ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ilugd-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org You can reach the person managing the list at ilugd-ow...@lists.linux-delhi.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Ilugd digest... Today's Topics: 1. Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (Sudhir Gandotra) 2. Re: Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (Ashish SHUKLA) 3. Re: Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (chandrakant kumar) 4. Re: Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (Sudhir Gandotra) 5. Re: Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (chandrakant kumar) 6. Re: Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU (Sudhir Gandotra) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:31:41 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU Message-ID: cahttqjceummn+p9wafh-cpzq18ao1x9pmb7b2voo1t481t+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world* -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:48:41 +0530 From: ashish...@lostca.se (Ashish SHUKLA) To: sudhirgando...@gmail.com Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU Message-ID: 868vncu1u6@chateau.d.if Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sudhir Gandotra writes: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. I'm using Intel DX58SO[1] with Intel i7 CPU since last year without any issues with Arch GNU/Linux (amd64), and FreeBSD 8.1/8.2 (amd64). References: [1] http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dx58so.html HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA ?Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect? (Ion-Mihai Tetcu, .sig of Ion-Mihai Tetcu) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOxzw2AAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwEQ0P/3JPxW8hMtHeqtK9GeVNjLc/ TdulUtmj/j6r01yyg+pd2G6JwiM2kUgeYaPWG5pCIwrUWz2cw39LAB2a6hUT7faX AYCrSYCWCW0aM5wJlX9Bn715jXrX91Z5Sf4qYdZneQtu4nPpQKfGd35yNK1h+0wb +btLFVI5L0jlyxyvvdtJVAGxJ8tzUbksZsg0Ps9EaW0p/PVOXQTj7YWlD9fB/HWz mb9ZVqF0IqsBYoSdPw/gbHsjhxFfqTxQILRcVkKjFbrjb5cfU84HuFG6WYy+KeuG 4a15Kn2+qo2ZnAbFVJulTy+6K87FarW1VbSk/BJYc1CssOI2LrxEvwxvMZFXElRS TUqoxY8cZ6+RN7c9pY6hnfUX7w6h/EIQ6QypWf6xAcLp1IJmdtw8gjN13ULKa2s1 ihID4D9a/bMYiGIOdFZHCr7pP8QXWZLzGoSHzslUKDdTivfr4smaLEyWiCv/9Z4n jfF7GRLhmwueP4MFuVFUX+8/wbFS1cqfL9EMAv2I2CjizvyuZHl0trGtELU3Eufz gc+JP6xwPNcLpIo2mjC8LMAUiHocpNGwXoPmY/qv1045nyHG615YPlYFkha2Bcrh lJ/BUjsrFlQTCnYS5lGijveHBkJLj+PFb0URGoRifebxn9jqVi7AjAch3/2eK9qG 4Z9exrcYrrs8W0h40/Lg =UBy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 13:41:36 +0530 From: chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.com To: sudhirgando...@gmail.com Cc: The Linux-Delhi mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org Subject: Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU Message-ID: cakxwny9mqrcgrhvatgsltjlkrjvjvuo0h8mhur-asspr69z...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I bought a dh67bl with i7, for use with centos 6. Ultimately had to install fedora 15, as rhel is not yet supporting Intel Sandybridge architecture. Turns out, if you are putting in a separate graphics card, Linux will work very well on this board...however, if you propose to use onboard graphics port, only the bleeding edge distros like fedora or scientific linux will support it. Reason is nothing but the new Intel Sandybridge architecture, which adds graphics (for non-high end graphic applications) to the processor. Due to the architecture being new, the LTS or Enterprise are not yet supporting it out of box, as the distros have not yet back-ported the drivers. I think centos 6.1 will be supporting sandybridge...so lots of graphics problems will be going away. Another problem is the onboard network card. Sometimes you need drivers for the newer hardware and those are not yet back-ported from bleeding edge distros. If you are willing to use a bleeding edge distros or adding a graphics/network card, most motherboards will work...even the new onemost!!!not all Ciao ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org and compile it. On 11/20/11, Sanjay Arora sanjay.k.ar...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a dh67bl with i7, for use with centos 6. Ultimately had to install fedora 15, as rhel is not yet supporting Intel Sandybridge architecture. Turns out, if you are putting in a separate graphics card, Linux will work very well on this board...however, if you propose to use onboard graphics port, only the bleeding edge distros like fedora or scientific linux will support it. Reason is nothing but the new Intel Sandybridge architecture, which adds graphics (for non-high end graphic applications) to the processor. Due to the architecture being new, the LTS or Enterprise are not yet supporting it out of box, as the distros have not yet back-ported the drivers. I think centos 6.1 will be supporting sandybridge...so lots of graphics problems will be going away. Another problem is the onboard network card. Sometimes you need drivers for the newer hardware and those are not yet back-ported from bleeding edge distros. If you are willing to use a bleeding edge distros or adding a graphics/network card, most motherboards will work...even the new onemost!!!not all Ciao ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.comwrote: Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org and compile it. Suredrivers are now mostly kernel loadable modules. But, drivers are written for particular hardware and need to be included in the distro, for it to support that hardware. Earlier, they used to be in kernel, now dynamically loaded as kernel modules, but the responsibility to include them still rests with the distros. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Most of these distros are binary based, i.e., they are compiled for generic hardware. They detect the hardware and load the appropriate driver modules. what i am trying to say is, between the time their kernel was compiled and now, drivers for newer hardware may have been written and to use those drivers you need to either update your kernel via the package manager or if that doesn't do the job then compile the latest kernel. On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Sanjay Arora sanjay.k.ar...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.com wrote: Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org and compile it. Suredrivers are now mostly kernel loadable modules. But, drivers are written for particular hardware and need to be included in the distro, for it to support that hardware. Earlier, they used to be in kernel, now dynamically loaded as kernel modules, but the responsibility to include them still rests with the distros. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: Which hardware ? No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board becomes a costly paper-weight for me. Vendors have mostly been slaves of M$ and idiots at that and have been guided by standard evil marketing principles. There are certifications for different hardware by canonical for e.g. Fedora collects huge amount of data relating to h/w at all stages of development, but they use a community approach. There are firms like http://www.linux-tested.com/ How many companies do h/w certification for GNU/Linux in India? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:21 AM, A. Mani a.mani@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: Which hardware ? No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board becomes a costly paper-weight for me. Vendors have mostly been slaves of M$ and idiots at that and have been guided by standard evil marketing principles. There are certifications for different hardware by canonical for e.g. Fedora collects huge amount of data relating to h/w at all stages of development, but they use a community approach. There are firms like http://www.linux-tested.com/ How many companies do h/w certification for GNU/Linux in India? -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc On their website, they are not showing any tests done for any of the mother-boards. Its mainly for complete machines and other devices. -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of kernel. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.comwrote: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world* ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.comwrote: I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of kernel. I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 so, that rules out talking of older kernels. But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Have you actually tried running any of these distros on hardware you are talking about?If yes, what is the error message? On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.comwrote: I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of kernel. I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 so, that rules out talking of older kernels. But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:34 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.comwrote: Have you actually tried running any of these distros on hardware you are talking about?If yes, what is the error message? Which hardware ? No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board becomes a costly paper-weight for me. The currently available boards of MSI, Intel, Asus etc. do not come with Linux support mentioned. That is where the trouble lies. I wonder if there is a quiet conspiracy/plan to close support to Linux on commodity boards by the vendors ? Till the time of Dual core and then Core2Duo, this was not the case. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar k.03chan...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of kernel. I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 so, that rules out talking of older kernels. But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sudhirgando...@gmail.com wrote: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- *Wish you an era of Realization Mobilization* Peace, Force Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world* ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Sudhir Gandotra writes: Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. I'm using Intel DX58SO[1] with Intel i7 CPU since last year without any issues with Arch GNU/Linux (amd64), and FreeBSD 8.1/8.2 (amd64). References: [1] http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dx58so.html HTH - -- Ashish SHUKLA “Intellectual Property is nowhere near as valuable as Intellect” (Ion-Mihai Tetcu, .sig of Ion-Mihai Tetcu) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOxzw2AAoJEMdGz6nnT6SwEQ0P/3JPxW8hMtHeqtK9GeVNjLc/ TdulUtmj/j6r01yyg+pd2G6JwiM2kUgeYaPWG5pCIwrUWz2cw39LAB2a6hUT7faX AYCrSYCWCW0aM5wJlX9Bn715jXrX91Z5Sf4qYdZneQtu4nPpQKfGd35yNK1h+0wb +btLFVI5L0jlyxyvvdtJVAGxJ8tzUbksZsg0Ps9EaW0p/PVOXQTj7YWlD9fB/HWz mb9ZVqF0IqsBYoSdPw/gbHsjhxFfqTxQILRcVkKjFbrjb5cfU84HuFG6WYy+KeuG 4a15Kn2+qo2ZnAbFVJulTy+6K87FarW1VbSk/BJYc1CssOI2LrxEvwxvMZFXElRS TUqoxY8cZ6+RN7c9pY6hnfUX7w6h/EIQ6QypWf6xAcLp1IJmdtw8gjN13ULKa2s1 ihID4D9a/bMYiGIOdFZHCr7pP8QXWZLzGoSHzslUKDdTivfr4smaLEyWiCv/9Z4n jfF7GRLhmwueP4MFuVFUX+8/wbFS1cqfL9EMAv2I2CjizvyuZHl0trGtELU3Eufz gc+JP6xwPNcLpIo2mjC8LMAUiHocpNGwXoPmY/qv1045nyHG615YPlYFkha2Bcrh lJ/BUjsrFlQTCnYS5lGijveHBkJLj+PFb0URGoRifebxn9jqVi7AjAch3/2eK9qG 4Z9exrcYrrs8W0h40/Lg =UBy7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
