Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Ajay Bramhe
Hi

I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full.
on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it...

Regs...

AjayB


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi,
 
  --- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  | How to start with foss video editing:
  \--
 
  LiVES?
  http://lives.sourceforge.net/
 
  Tutorials:
  http://www.reimeika.ca/lives/lives_guide.html
  http://lives.sourceforge.net/content/tut_html/lives_mt_tut.html
 
  SK
 
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 Wow! This seems cool. Lemme download and use. I do believe now that I wont
 have to resort to FCP for my work. Thanks a lot SK. Either way I was
 planning to make a 2-5 minute small ad for Free Software, just for my our
 appetite.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Linux Lingam
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 --- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | How to start with foss video editing:
 \--

 LiVES?
 http://lives.sourceforge.net/

the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix
upped to debian...

can't afford to muck around with my existing 'production' install. if
you get it running smoothly, let the list know.

regards
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Ajay Bramhe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi

 I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full.
 on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it...

 Regs...

 AjayB


Of course Ubuntu, if you already have it. If you are going to download, go
for UbuntuStudio :-)

Swapnil
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Praveen A
2008/9/19 Ajay Bramhe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi

 I was watching this thread from past few days...actually not read it full.
 on which *iux flavor i can install itif i download it...

The suggestion was to go for a flavour that is customised for
multimedia usage with all software included.

Cheers
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya

 the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix
 upped to debian...

 can't afford to muck around with my existing 'production' install. if
 you get it running smoothly, let the list know.

 regards
 niyam


Ooops. I was a bit excited about it :( Hope I will find anything as good as
commercial alternatives.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Raj Mathur
On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote:
 [snip]
 the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix
 upped to debian...

Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition.  I 
wouldn't blame LiVES.

On a standard Debian (and possibly other) system LiVES installs and runs 
with no issues at all.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya

 Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition.  I
 wouldn't blame LiVES.

 On a standard Debian (and possibly other) system LiVES installs and runs
 with no issues at all.

 Regards,

 -- Raju


I will be trying that on Ubuntu 8.04 tonight, hope it would work. Asking off
topic,  I installed Lenny, but it has a lot of issues with Display. What
could be the reason?

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote:
| the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix
| upped to debian...
\--

I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86.

SK

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya



 I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86.

 SK


Hey I installed Lenny, but display is creating issues can you help me in
finding the problem. I can provide you with info you need.
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread PJ
 
 On Friday 19 Sep 2008, Linux Lingam wrote:
  [snip]
  the last time i used LIVES it hopelessly broke my system, a knoppix
  upped to debian...

Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Er, a Knoppix upped to Debian is hopelessly broken by definition.

Yup, I second that, from past experience. Don't do that.

PJ


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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread gajendra khanna
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I am using LiVES on Debian Lenny on x86.

 SK

Just to add to that lives is to be taken from the
debian-multimedia.org repository. Doesn't come by default.
There seems to be an issue with the newer audio libraries (namely
libavcodec51) which doesn't allow some modules to get loaded though.
Because of that a few packages like xvidcap became unavailable due to
problems caused to ffmpeg. This was a few weeks back. Don't know if
the problem is sorted now. (If somebody has newer information let me
know).


 Hey I installed Lenny, but display is creating issues can you help me in
 finding the problem. I can provide you with info you need.
Whats the problem? Having ATI/Nvidia or something else.
does trying: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya

 Whats the problem? Having ATI/Nvidia or something else.
 does trying: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
  Swapnil
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Movies don't play well, jerky; and images jitter when enlarged. I have Intel
GMA 950, which is ok with Ubuntu as well as Debian Etch. Yes I did try
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no use.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-19 Thread gajendra khanna

 Movies don't play well, jerky; and images jitter when enlarged. I have Intel
 GMA 950, which is ok with Ubuntu as well as Debian Etch. Yes I did try
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but no use.
If you have your debian etch settings replace your current xorg.conf
with that one.
(If not replace with maybe one generated by a knoppix live CD). Exact
small tweaking may be needed.
Better to take these two shortcuts. I have the same card on etch too
and it works fine.


Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Nalin Savara
Dear Participants of this Thread ( Swapnil Bhartiya, Praveen A, Linux Lingam
(Niyam)) ,

Thanks for all your kind comments, suggestions and discussion.
I just thought I'd drop a 2-liner to express that this is interesting
discussion-- and my heartfelt thanks to all that are participating.

Also, if someone can point to useful online FAQs, tutorials and use-cases
for various music editing software-- most specifically relating to MIDI; I
would further appreciate that.

Rock-on folks... let not this not of thanks end the discussion

Thanks and Best Regards,

NS
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You ask: which software is best for video-editing under foss and
 gnu/linux?

 answer: video-edit software like kino, cinerella etc are not as
 robust,mature,and friendly or professional like fcp, avids, etc.
 Hence, a few people use the video-edit features of blender3d.but the
 software looks intimidating.
 Gaping-hole of pandav-foss: video-compositing, video-edit, non-linear
 edit, and even dvd-authoring software, that are at par with their
 proprietary kaurava-siblings.

 regards
 niyam


Thanks for the kaurava vs pandav thing Niyam. But as long as we have
*Saarathi* like RMS, we shouldn't care.

But I am still awaiting the name of the software. I had been a professional
editor/director for documentary films before joining print. FCP was like
walk in park. Now, having migrated to FOSS, I am looking for something
stable enough to allow me make a 5 minute short film. Please tell which tool
to use with confidence. As you must have used it in your short film project
as you mentioned earleir.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread gajendra khanna
Hi
Just my 2 cents. I have used kdenlive at one time to make some small
videos and it seemed ok. (But there it was a basic frames taken from
pictures and with some audio running behind). openmovieeditor is also
available but I can't vouch for its quality since I didn't use it
much.
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 5:16 PM, gajendra khanna
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi
 Just my 2 cents. I have used kdenlive at one time to make some small
 videos and it seemed ok. (But there it was a basic frames taken from
 pictures and with some audio running behind). openmovieeditor is also
 available but I can't vouch for its quality since I didn't use it
 much.
 Regards
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread linuxlingam
How to start with foss video editing:

your first steps should be with kino. About 90% of personal
video-edits can be done with this.

grow your skills and start using the video-edit features of blender3d.

hth

regards
n

On 9/18/08, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You ask: which software is best for video-editing under foss and
 gnu/linux?

 answer: video-edit software like kino, cinerella etc are not as
 robust,mature,and friendly or professional like fcp, avids, etc.
 Hence, a few people use the video-edit features of blender3d.but the
 software looks intimidating.
 Gaping-hole of pandav-foss: video-compositing, video-edit, non-linear
 edit, and even dvd-authoring software, that are at par with their
 proprietary kaurava-siblings.

 regards
 niyam


 Thanks for the kaurava vs pandav thing Niyam. But as long as we have
 *Saarathi* like RMS, we shouldn't care.

 But I am still awaiting the name of the software. I had been a professional
 editor/director for documentary films before joining print. FCP was like
 walk in park. Now, having migrated to FOSS, I am looking for something
 stable enough to allow me make a 5 minute short film. Please tell which tool
 to use with confidence. As you must have used it in your short film project
 as you mentioned earleir.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How to start with foss video editing:

 your first steps should be with kino. About 90% of personal
 video-edits can be done with this.

 grow your skills and start using the video-edit features of blender3d.

 hth

 regards
 n


I am not new to Foss tools. I have tried almost all of them. That's why I am
asking which one is stable enough to do serious editing. Kino is not at all
good for someone who has worked on FCP. It's like asking a Ferrari driver to
try bicycle... Blender...hmmm good for 3D guys...but not for pure film
editing too much there.
.is there anything that is really good enough for serious work?

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| How to start with foss video editing:
\--

LiVES?
http://lives.sourceforge.net/

Tutorials:
http://www.reimeika.ca/lives/lives_guide.html
http://lives.sourceforge.net/content/tut_html/lives_mt_tut.html

SK

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 --- On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:48 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | How to start with foss video editing:
 \--

 LiVES?
 http://lives.sourceforge.net/

 Tutorials:
 http://www.reimeika.ca/lives/lives_guide.html
 http://lives.sourceforge.net/content/tut_html/lives_mt_tut.html

 SK

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Wow! This seems cool. Lemme download and use. I do believe now that I wont
have to resort to FCP for my work. Thanks a lot SK. Either way I was
planning to make a 2-5 minute small ad for Free Software, just for my our
appetite.

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-18 Thread Praveen A
2008/9/19 Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Either way I was
 planning to make a 2-5 minute small ad for Free Software, just for my our
 appetite.

That would be superb !!

Cheers
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-17 Thread Linux Lingam
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/9/16 Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 , or another distro made for multimedia.

 http://www.artistx.org/ might be worth a try

that's a live dvd-distro, but it still peddles rosegarden...



 Cheers
 Praveen


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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-17 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Praveen A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2008/9/16 Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  , or another distro made for multimedia.
 
  http://www.artistx.org/ might be worth a try

 that's a live dvd-distro, but it still peddles rosegarden...


 
  Cheers
  Praveen

 Which software would you recommend for movie editing, I found Kino,
Kdenlive and Cinerella to be quite unstable to do some serious editing. Is
there anything as good as FCP, Avid, velocity or Media 100?

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-17 Thread linuxlingam
You ask: which software is best for video-editing under foss and gnu/linux?

answer: video-edit software like kino, cinerella etc are not as
robust,mature,and friendly or professional like fcp, avids, etc.
Hence, a few people use the video-edit features of blender3d.but the
software looks intimidating.
Gaping-hole of pandav-foss: video-compositing, video-edit, non-linear
edit, and even dvd-authoring software, that are at par with their
proprietary kaurava-siblings.

regards
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-16 Thread Nalin Savara
LinuxLingam aka Niyam wrote:
 Anyone here who'd care to share her/his recommendations for a Open Source
 MIDI Editor/ Sequencer ?

rosegarden, my friend.

thanks bro Mr.Niyam; i really 'preciate da nfo-m8n.

Any other people here want to make recommendations and/or share sound mixing
experiences especially with Midi... please go ahead and share... I am
listening...

Anyone here take a shot at authoring cinematic style MIDI sound SFX... the
kind u have in soundtrack of Omen / Excorcist or even a la old Bollywood ?
Anyone here take a shot at authoring classic game style SFX with MIDI ?

Just wondering... feel free to mail the group OR send me a unicast mail if
thats more appropriate.

Thx in Anticipation and Kind Regards,

NS
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-16 Thread Linux Lingam
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LinuxLingam aka Niyam wrote:
 Anyone here who'd care to share her/his recommendations for a Open Source
 MIDI Editor/ Sequencer ?

rosegarden, my friend.

 thanks bro Mr.Niyam; i really 'preciate da nfo-m8n.

 Any other people here want to make recommendations and/or share sound mixing
 experiences especially with Midi... please go ahead and share... I am
 listening...

 Anyone here take a shot at authoring cinematic style MIDI sound SFX... the
 kind u have in soundtrack of Omen / Excorcist or even a la old Bollywood ?
 Anyone here take a shot at authoring classic game style SFX with MIDI ?

i haven't done sound-tracks for gaming yet, but last year i did
author, as in design the sounds, compose, arrange, mix-down, and
produce music that got used commercially in a short film, for some
US-based project. all of this done using ubuntustudio and 100% foss
tools.

a few years ago also did a sound-track for a film-documentary on
ecology, using both analog sounds and music i played, as well as some
synthesizer music through analog recording.


regards
niyam


 Just wondering... feel free to mail the group OR send me a unicast mail if
 thats more appropriate.

 Thx in Anticipation and Kind Regards,

 NS
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Re: [ilugd] Open Source MIDI Editor/ Sequencer

2008-09-16 Thread Praveen A
2008/9/16 Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 , or another distro made for multimedia.

http://www.artistx.org/ might be worth a try

Cheers
Praveen
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