Re: [ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation

2004-06-16 Thread Raj Shekhar
Raj Mathur wrote:
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Kunal [snip]
Kunal Secondly, I wanted to know about swap space allocation.  I
Kunal have read that the swap space should normally be twice the
Kunal size of RAM.  I currently have 256 MB RAM, so i have a swap
Kunal partition of 512MB.  But I am planning to upgrade to 1 GB
Kunal Ram.  What swap space should I Allocate Now??  Should it be
Kunal 2 GB or less?
The ``swap twice size of RAM'' is a rather old concept, dating from
the days when RAM was 32 or 64MB, processors were 66MHz and disks
transferred at 1MB/s. 
A very interesting was on the lkml about swap. Kerneltrap has it here 
Linux: Is Swap Necessary? (http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3202 )

Another interesting discussion on the lkml is about the swapiness of the 
system.  Linux: Tuning Swappiness (http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/3000)

Through the proc interface anyone needing to adapt kernel swap behavior 
to their own requirements. To tune, simply echo a value from 0 to 100 
onto /proc/sys/vm/swappiness. The higher a number set here, the more the 
system will swap. 2.6 kernel maintainer Andrew Morton noted that on his 
own desktop machines he sets swapiness to 100, further explaining:

My point is that decreasing the tendency of the kernel to swap 
stuff out is wrong. You really don't want hundreds of megabytes of 
BloatyApp's untouched memory floating about in the machine. Get it out 
on the disk, use the memory for something useful.


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[ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation

2004-06-15 Thread Kunal Singhal \(Linux\)
HI

In the recent mails in the mailing list, I have learned about the problem of 
installing Fedora Core 2 on a dual boot system since it changes the Partition Format 
from LBA to CHS.

The solution suggested by someone was to manually select LBA option for the hard disk 
from the BIOS.

I have Intel D865GBF Original motherboard with Seagate 80GB SATA Hard Disk.
In the BIOS settings, if I select the HDD to Auto mode,
the BIOS takes LBA Support as Enabled.
If I select User Mode,
then the BIOS gives me the options to set LBA Mode to either Disabled or Auto

What should I do now?
Should I keep it to Auto and proceed with the Installation or still wait for Fedora to 
patch the problem.


Secondly, I wanted to know about swap space allocation.
I have read that the swap space should normally be twice the size of RAM.
I currently have 256 MB RAM, so i have a swap partition of 512MB.
But I am planning to upgrade to 1 GB Ram.
What swap space should I Allocate Now??
Should it be 2 GB or less?

Thanks in advance to everyone who helps me out.

Kunal
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RE: [ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation

2004-06-15 Thread Devendra Burman
Hi Kunal,
For LBA:
Auto option will go.
For swap:
It is always recomended that swap partition should be double the size of 
your RAM.  It is not mandatory.  However presently you can choose 512 MB and 
latter (when you update your system) you can increase the size of your 
partition.  If this is the case please make a prior planning of your hard 
disk lay out.

Regards,
Dev.

From: Kunal Singhal (Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 12:18:10 +0530
HI
In the recent mails in the mailing list, I have learned about the problem 
of installing Fedora Core 2 on a dual boot system since it changes the 
Partition Format from LBA to CHS.

The solution suggested by someone was to manually select LBA option for the 
hard disk from the BIOS.

I have Intel D865GBF Original motherboard with Seagate 80GB SATA Hard Disk.
In the BIOS settings, if I select the HDD to Auto mode,
the BIOS takes LBA Support as Enabled.
If I select User Mode,
then the BIOS gives me the options to set LBA Mode to either Disabled or 
Auto

What should I do now?
Should I keep it to Auto and proceed with the Installation or still wait 
for Fedora to patch the problem.

Secondly, I wanted to know about swap space allocation.
I have read that the swap space should normally be twice the size of RAM.
I currently have 256 MB RAM, so i have a swap partition of 512MB.
But I am planning to upgrade to 1 GB Ram.
What swap space should I Allocate Now??
Should it be 2 GB or less?
Thanks in advance to everyone who helps me out.
Kunal
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Re: [ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation

2004-06-15 Thread Sanjeev \Ghane\ Gupta
Devendra Burman wrote:
 For swap:
 It is always recomended that swap partition should be double the size
 of  your RAM.

Bunkum.  As amount if RAM increases, the swap space I require will
_decrease_, not increase.  Any questions?

For certain values of thumb rules, the amount of real RAM should be at
least one-third of the total system memory available.  This is quite
different from the advice above.

Kumal, if this is a desktop, you may require no swap at all.

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Re: [ilugd] Query regarding FC2 Installation

2004-06-15 Thread Raj Mathur
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 Kunal == Kunal Singhal \(Linux\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Kunal [snip]

Kunal Secondly, I wanted to know about swap space allocation.  I
Kunal have read that the swap space should normally be twice the
Kunal size of RAM.  I currently have 256 MB RAM, so i have a swap
Kunal partition of 512MB.  But I am planning to upgrade to 1 GB
Kunal Ram.  What swap space should I Allocate Now??  Should it be
Kunal 2 GB or less?

The ``swap twice size of RAM'' is a rather old concept, dating from
the days when RAM was 32 or 64MB, processors were 66MHz and disks
transferred at 1MB/s.  Make a lot of swap if you plan to have tons of
apps that aren't used very frequently open simultaneously.  However,
in general with newer systems I find 256 to 512MB of swap more than
adequate -- the values under are for a KDE desktop with 4 shells,
Xemacs, OOo, Licq, gkrellm, multiple Galeon windows and Gaim
permanently open:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:515256 500528  14728  0  28148 180820
- -/+ buffers/cache: 291560 223696
Swap:   265032 103648 161384

Hmm, /why/ do I have Licq open?  I can't remember the last time I
received an ICQ message... must do something about it, in the fullness
of time, when the time is ripe, at the appropriate juncture.

Kunal Thanks in advance to everyone who helps me out.

Uh, just thanks?  You mean you aren't paying?  D*mn!

Regards,

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