Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-06 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Samal B spoke thus  On 02/04/2008 02:55 PM:
 Hi,
 
 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable  as there  is a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as 
 something
 that commands a high price)?

Troll bait?


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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-06 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 07-Feb-08, at 7:58 AM, Raj Shekhar wrote:

 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable  as there  is  
 a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as  
 good as something
 that commands a high price)?

 Troll bait?

no - it was a genuine question - as you will see when you scroll down  
the rest of the thread


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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-06 Thread pj

 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable as there is a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as
 something that commands a high price)?
 
 Troll bait?

Maybe. In any case, here's a haiku to enclue Samal:

  Free can be useless.
  Some perceive Linux as worse
  but it is better.


PJ






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[ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Samal B
Hi,

Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable  as there  is a feeling
among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as something
that commands a high price)?

Regards
Samal B


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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Mehul Ved
On Feb 4, 2008 2:55 PM, Samal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable  as there  is a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as 
 something
 that commands a high price)?

Buy RHEL or SLED.

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Sriram J


 SLED = SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
 http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/
 I hope that's what you wanted?


yes thanks very much.
when i googled i got that meaning only so i had to ask on list.
sorry if i bothered you.
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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Samal B
Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 04/02/2008, Samal B wrote:
 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable as there is a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as
something
 that commands a high price)?

Who is we here? If you do not want this free send in a cheque of
Rs100..0 (add as many zeros you want) to ILUG-D Or take me as
consultant I will charge a big fat fee and become benefactor for
Freed.In ;-)

Hi ,

Why are you interested in   we  version of my mail?? . It is not the question
of writing cheques but it is to decide which OS to go for ? if things are free
are they reliable ??

Thanks
Samal



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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Sriram J
On 2/4/08, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 4, 2008 2:55 PM, Samal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable  as there  is a
 feeling
  among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as
 something
  that commands a high price)?

 Buy RHEL or SLED.


are you asking him to buy a sled.
 a vehicle mounted on runners and pulled by horses or dogs; for
transportation over snow
if not can you tell me what you meant.
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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Mehul Ved
On Feb 4, 2008 3:29 PM, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 are you asking him to buy a sled.
  a vehicle mounted on runners and pulled by horses or dogs; for
 transportation over snow
 if not can you tell me what you meant.

SLED = SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop
http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/
I hope that's what you wanted?

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Jeba Singh Emmanuel


 The air you breathe is reliable? It is still free.
 

reliable compared to what? The air today stinks. You ever read
environmental reports. :-)
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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Jeba Singh Emmanuel

On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:23 +, Samal B wrote:

 Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 04/02/2008, Samal B wrote:
  Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable as there is a 
 feeling
  among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not as good as
 something
  that commands a high price)?
 
 Who is we here? If you do not want this free send in a cheque of
 Rs100..0 (add as many zeros you want) to ILUG-D Or take me as
 consultant I will charge a big fat fee and become benefactor for
 Freed.In ;-)
 
 Hi ,
 
 Why are you interested in   we  version of my mail?? . It is not the 
 question
 of writing cheques but it is to decide which OS to go for ? if things are free
 are they reliable ??
 
 Thanks
 Samal
 

Usually free things would not be as reliable as, say their paid
counterparts, but in this case, yes, it would be as reliable, if not
more. However you would do well to study in advance what exactly you
need to support before deciding on a particular distro. Each distro has
its particular strength and the community would be glad to help you. Be
also aware that in India it is difficult to find well advertised
qualified linux talent for your queries. If you would be kind as to
mention what sort of applications you plan using, I am sure the veteran
members here would be eager to give their input. 

Cheers and peace.

Jeba Singh Emmanuel
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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Feb 4, 2008 3:53 PM, Samal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| if things are free
| are they reliable ??
\--

The air you breathe is reliable? It is still free.

To answer your question, yes, FOSS is reliable.

SK

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Sriram J


  The air you breathe is reliable? It is still free.
 

 reliable compared to what? The air today stinks. You ever read
 environmental reports. :-)


you can rely on it to be polluted.
you can also rely on the air to give you the lungs of a 80 year old smoker
in no time.
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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread bibhudendu samal
 hi 
i did googled for FOSS but i got a lot of link on foss so , i felt its better 
to have a clarity on it.

thanks 
samal

Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

--- On Feb 4, 2008 4:34 PM, Sriram J  wrote:
| you can rely on it to be polluted.
| you can also rely on the air to give you the lungs of a 80 year old smoker
| in no time.
\--

It would depend on which part of the world you are in. And, its not
that you are going to stop breathing just because it is polluted.

Anyways, the context of free was used with emphasis on freedom.

--- On Feb 4, 2008 4:41 PM, bibhudendu samal  wrote:
| what is FOSS ?? and can you send some links
\--

Please use a search engine before you ask questions. For a start,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS

SK

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread bibhudendu samal
what is FOSS ?? and can you send some links

Thanks 
Samal

Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi,

--- On Feb 4, 2008 3:53 PM, Samal B  wrote:
| if things are free
| are they reliable ??
\--

The air you breathe is reliable? It is still free.

To answer your question, yes, FOSS is reliable.

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Feb 4, 2008 4:34 PM, Sriram J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| you can rely on it to be polluted.
| you can also rely on the air to give you the lungs of a 80 year old smoker
| in no time.
\--

It would depend on which part of the world you are in. And, its not
that you are going to stop breathing just because it is polluted.

Anyways, the context of free was used with emphasis on freedom.

--- On Feb 4, 2008 4:41 PM, bibhudendu samal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| what is FOSS ?? and can you send some links
\--

Please use a search engine before you ask questions. For a start,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOSS

SK

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:14:37 +0530, Mehul Ved
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

 On Feb 4, 2008 2:55 PM, Samal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable as there is a
 feeling among people that anything that is free is not genuine (not
 as good as something that commands a high price)?

 Buy RHEL or SLED.

Or, as a special favour, I'll be willing to accept money orders,
 cash, or checks for any Linux distribution.  Feel free to send in any
 amount, starting at Rs 1, up to whatever value you feel you want to
 derive from Linux.  I can let you feel like you are using a OS worth a
 crore, if you want.

manoj

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:23:59 + (UTC), Samal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

 Why are you interested in  we  version of my mail?? . It is not the
 question of writing cheques but it is to decide which OS to go for ?
 if things are free are they reliable ??

Are you willing to accept an opinion from someone you do not
 know? I mean, if we all say Linux is reliable, how much can you rely on
 this statement? Secondly, the answer to the reliability of Linux/Apache
 would depend on your definition of reliability -- the term is
 sufficiently vague to render answers mostly meaningless.  Lastly, the
 term FOSS covers so much ground that an answer is not feasible, even if
 there is a concrete definition of reliability.  What are you looking to
 do? A Linux server, standing alone, and doing little, can stay up for
 years. Apache servers have stood up to the worst the 'net has had to
 throw at them.

I strongly suggest you look at Eric Raymond's essay on how to ask
 questions intelligently; the answer you get would be far more useful.

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Viksit Gaur
Lets put the humor aside for a minute shall we? :)

--- Samal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shall we opt for linux as it is freely down loadable
  as there  is a feeling
 among people that anything that is free is not
 genuine (not as good as something
 that commands a high price)?

It depends on how you define reliable. A solid piece
of software with defects that are the same, if not
less than something you would pay for? Then yes, Linux
is as reliable as Windows. If you're looking for
customer support like Microsoft provides, you'd be
happy with Linux too, since companies like Red Hat,
SuSE and others provide such support services - for a
price.

That said, the world's most popular web server
(Apache) was written, and is mostly deployed on Linux
(or similar OSes). And yes, most people who run it use
the free version because there IS no paid version to
speak of.

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Re: [ilugd] free vs paid operating systems

2008-02-04 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 05-Feb-08, at 3:40 AM, Viksit Gaur wrote:

 It depends on how you define reliable. A solid piece
 of software with defects that are the same, if not
 less than something you would pay for? Then yes, Linux
 is as reliable as Windows


I personally think it is much more reliable than windows

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