Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-06 Thread Sandeep . y . Gupta
Raj Shekhar wrote:
 I get a lot of emails everyday (150-200 would be a close figure).  As 
 such, I can say with confidence that people find it easier to read 
 emails that are written in plain english, i.e. without using sms lingo 
 or trying to write roman hinglish.  As far as the part about colonial 
 legacy goes, yes, I find it easier to read english rather than hindi. 
 If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no problems 
 in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email.

 if u cn rd this, u nd a dictionary.
   

I don't see any reasons why anybody posting in Hindi should be 
discouraged in ILUG-D. Delhi, primarily, uses Hindi for communication. 
Though, I personally don't like writing Hindi in roman script, writing 
Hindi in Devnagri should be acceptable. Moreover, as far as I know, 
basic philosophy of LUG is to help Linux users mutually. I think we are 
catering to a region, per se. Though, the language used should be formal 
and not the usual slang we use. May be writing jargon in roman and using 
basic Hindi grammar should be ok.

Just to add, various units of my organization (in different parts of the 
world) use their own languages to communicate and e-mail and use English 
only for international mailing. That is perhaps the reason, that we see 
PC technology so matured and widely used in China, Japan and European 
countries because you are not intimidated by use of English in technology.

Best regards
Sandeep

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-06 Thread ankit walia
hello friends,

I got the answer of  my question of automounting of pendrive its not
real automounting but its is working till i get the real one.What i
did is i add a line in fstab file
/dev/sda1   /mnt/pendriveauto defaults,users,noauto 0 0
now when i attached my pendrive to usb
i have to right click on desktop then Disks-pendrive
in case of RH restart is needed.

apart from this a new topic has been started
on this i support the arguments of lingam which says that if we type
it in conventional english then google can easily search the words and
one more person argument which says if you really want to support your
native language then use that language script(lipi in hindi)

anyways thanks
ankit walia

On 3/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Raj Shekhar wrote:
  I get a lot of emails everyday (150-200 would be a close figure).  As
  such, I can say with confidence that people find it easier to read
  emails that are written in plain english, i.e. without using sms lingo
  or trying to write roman hinglish.  As far as the part about colonial
  legacy goes, yes, I find it easier to read english rather than hindi.
  If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no problems
  in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email.
 
  if u cn rd this, u nd a dictionary.
 

 I don't see any reasons why anybody posting in Hindi should be
 discouraged in ILUG-D. Delhi, primarily, uses Hindi for communication.
 Though, I personally don't like writing Hindi in roman script, writing
 Hindi in Devnagri should be acceptable. Moreover, as far as I know,
 basic philosophy of LUG is to help Linux users mutually. I think we are
 catering to a region, per se. Though, the language used should be formal
 and not the usual slang we use. May be writing jargon in roman and using
 basic Hindi grammar should be ok.

 Just to add, various units of my organization (in different parts of the
 world) use their own languages to communicate and e-mail and use English
 only for international mailing. That is perhaps the reason, that we see
 PC technology so matured and widely used in China, Japan and European
 countries because you are not intimidated by use of English in technology.

 Best regards
 Sandeep

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-06 Thread Gaurav


On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 00:08 +0530, ankit walia wrote:
  like windows do self check that usb has been attached
  y cant linux do
  n if it do how?

Checkout Autofs project - http://auto-autofs.sourceforge.net/



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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread ankit walia
my apologies

On 3/3/06, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 03/03/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  actually on usb port i hv attached pendrive
  i hv used mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
  cant it be self check like cd rom
 
  On 3/3/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   i hv red hat 9 linux version 2.4.x
   plz help
   nahi ho raha
   always i hv to use mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
  
   On 3/3/06, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
On 3/1/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 like windows do self check that usb has been attached
 y cant linux do
 n if it do how?
   
where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)

 Ankit
 Plainly speaking you are not likely to get help if you top post, use
 non-English words or try to use abbreviation. You will do better if
 you can spend some time reading list rules or ettiquetes. Two guys
 before me have pointed this out in joking manner but since you ignored
 this I am writing this in plain language for your consideration.

 Now on to the problem:
 1. Are you sure your pen drive is recognised as /dev/sda1 ?? Run as
 sudo or root tail -f /var/log/messages before you connect the drive.
 Now see the output when you connect There are other ways of finding
 the device, read the net.
 2. Once identified run as sudo or root mount -t vfat /dev/sda1
 /mnt/mountpoint. Make sure that /mnt/mountpoint exists or run mkdir to
 create this.
 3. If you want automounting then you will have to dig in deeper and do
 man fstab Understand how this works and then go ahead. Alternatively
 find distro like Ubuntu that is already set to do so.

 Hope this is clear. Enjoy.
 --
 Sudev Barar
 Learning Linux
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Shiv
ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  my apologies

On 3/3/06, Sudev Barar  wrote:

 On 03/03/06, ankit walia  wrote:
  actually on usb port i hv attached pendrive
  i hv used mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
  cant it be self check like cd rom
 
  On 3/3/06, ankit walia  wrote:
   i hv red hat 9 linux version 2.4.x
   plz help
   nahi ho raha
   always i hv to use mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
  
   On 3/3/06, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவேக 
   ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer 
 wrote:
On 3/1/06, ankit walia  wrote:
 like windows do self check that usb has been attached
 y cant linux do
 n if it do how?
   
where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)

 Ankit
 Plainly speaking you are not likely to get help if you top post, use
 non-English words or try to use abbreviation. You will do better if
 you can spend some time reading list rules or ettiquetes. Two guys
 before me have pointed this out in joking manner but since you ignored
 this I am writing this in plain language for your consideration.

 Now on to the problem:
 1. Are you sure your pen drive is recognised as /dev/sda1 ?? Run as
 sudo or root tail -f /var/log/messages before you connect the drive.
 Now see the output when you connect There are other ways of finding
 the device, read the net.
 2. Once identified run as sudo or root mount -t vfat /dev/sda1
 /mnt/mountpoint. Make sure that /mnt/mountpoint exists or run mkdir to
 create this.
 3. If you want automounting then you will have to dig in deeper and do
 man fstab Understand how this works and then go ahead. Alternatively
 find distro like Ubuntu that is already set to do so.

 Hope this is clear. Enjoy.
 --
 Sudev Barar
 Learning Linux
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hi,
  top-posting is one thing
  however, as far as the non-english part goes, I think its time we  climb 
outta our colonial slumber and encourage people to use native  language. 
roman hindi like the one ankit was trying to use is quite  ok. The indian 
army uses it to a large extent (part of the colonial  legacy).


catch ya later (Ive gotta UnWire Life!!!)
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Gaurav Mishra
Get a way of writing mails in unicode , i don`t know if it exists , if
it exists then we should implement it , if not then language should
not be scrapped and we could continue as it is..

On 3/5/06, Shiv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   however, as far as the non-english part goes, I think its time we  climb 
 outta our colonial slumber and encourage people to use native  language. 
 roman hindi like the one ankit was trying to use is quite  ok. The indian 
 army uses it to a large extent (part of the colonial  legacy).



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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Raj Shekhar
in infinite wisdom Shiv spoke thus  On 03/05/2006 06:58 PM:

 hi,
   top-posting is one thing
 however, as far as the non-english part goes, I think its time we
 climb outta our colonial slumber and encourage people to use native
 language. roman hindi like the one ankit was trying to use is quite
 ok. The indian army uses it to a large extent (part of the colonial legacy).

I get a lot of emails everyday (150-200 would be a close figure).  As 
such, I can say with confidence that people find it easier to read 
emails that are written in plain english, i.e. without using sms lingo 
or trying to write roman hinglish.  As far as the part about colonial 
legacy goes, yes, I find it easier to read english rather than hindi. 
If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no problems 
in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email.

if u cn rd this, u nd a dictionary.
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Sudev Barar
On 06/03/06, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no
  problems in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email.

 Well, that sounds like a personal decision to me. If you are willing
 to miss out on email just because it is in Hindi, c'est la vie, if you
 will pardon my French.


The intention is to help the poster but if the seeker of help makes it
difficult for some one who can help then that some one would rather
help others who are defining their needs in clearly and easily
understood terms.

Hinglish and likes are okay for a line or two but the problems seeking
solutions should be posted in as widely understood language as
possible.
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Linux Lingam
[snip]

the ilug-d mailing list is archived. whenever i wish to troubleshoot
something, i search through the growing knowledge stored in its mails.

sometimes, when i google for an answer, i often find a result pointing
to an ilug-d mail.

if people write in sms-english, or romanized-english, the precious
tips and troubleshooting that our members shared in sms-english or
romanized-english are rendered unsearchable, and hence of no use to
anyone.

iss liyeh, apney sawal jawab kewal aisey angrezi mein likhey, jo
google aur anya search key saadhan ko samajh aiye. pls aprciate dis
gr8 idea. c u l8r. baaki aapki marzee.

:-)
niyam

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 3/5/06, Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in infinite wisdom Shiv spoke thus  On 03/05/2006 06:58 PM:

  hi,
top-posting is one thing
  however, as far as the non-english part goes, I think its time we
  climb outta our colonial slumber and encourage people to use native
  language. roman hindi like the one ankit was trying to use is quite
  ok. The indian army uses it to a large extent (part of the colonial
 legacy).

 I get a lot of emails everyday (150-200 would be a close figure).  As
 such, I can say with confidence that people find it easier to read
 emails that are written in plain english, i.e. without using sms lingo
 or trying to write roman hinglish.  As far as the part about colonial
 legacy goes, yes, I find it easier to read english rather than hindi.
 If anyone starts writing in hindi (and thunderbird will have no problems
 in showing such emails), I will simply pass over that email.

About the native language stuff, people here have lots of native languages.
So people suggesting - Get out of colonial hangup should write their mails
in all 15 languages specified in the constitution so as mails are understood
by all of us. The orignal poster can take the lead and start sending out his
mails in 15 languages :D
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tanveer Singh wrote:

 
 About the native language stuff, people here have lots of native languages.
 So people suggesting - Get out of colonial hangup should write their mails
 in all 15 languages specified in the constitution so as mails are understood
 by all of us. The orignal poster can take the lead and start sending out his
 mails in 15 languages :D

am not sure that the original poster meant what you describe. Maybe he 
meant if you are writing in a native language write using the original 
langauge script and the fonts available in that language

If one were to read letters written in other languages (not romanized 
versions) then one often sees similar use of nativized english (other 
language words). To some extent this is visble even in regional language 
newspapers.

Just because we can't read / write / speak other languages does mean we 
  lump all of them together and stick to one langauge beyond which we 
think its the end of the world.

We need to make the effort to try it out in our own lives to start with.

ram

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-03 Thread ankit walia
i hv red hat 9 linux version 2.4.x
plz help
nahi ho raha
always i hv to use mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder

On 3/3/06, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/1/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  like windows do self check that usb has been attached
  y cant linux do
  n if it do how?

 where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-03 Thread ankit walia
actually on usb port i hv attached pendrive
i hv used mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
cant it be self check like cd rom

On 3/3/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i hv red hat 9 linux version 2.4.x
 plz help
 nahi ho raha
 always i hv to use mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder

 On 3/3/06, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/1/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   like windows do self check that usb has been attached
   y cant linux do
   n if it do how?
 
  where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)
 
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-03 Thread Sudev Barar
On 03/03/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 actually on usb port i hv attached pendrive
 i hv used mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
 cant it be self check like cd rom

 On 3/3/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i hv red hat 9 linux version 2.4.x
  plz help
  nahi ho raha
  always i hv to use mount /dev/sda1 /anyfolder
 
  On 3/3/06, विवेक  ऐय्यर விவேக ஐய்யர்  Vivek Iyyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 3/1/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
like windows do self check that usb has been attached
y cant linux do
n if it do how?
  
   where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)

Ankit
Plainly speaking you are not likely to get help if you top post, use
non-English words or try to use abbreviation. You will do better if
you can spend some time reading list rules or ettiquetes. Two guys
before me have pointed this out in joking manner but since you ignored
this I am writing this in plain language for your consideration.

Now on to the problem:
1. Are you sure your pen drive is recognised as /dev/sda1 ?? Run as
sudo or root tail -f /var/log/messages before you connect the drive.
Now see the output when you connect There are other ways of finding
the device, read the net.
2. Once identified run as sudo or root mount -t vfat /dev/sda1
/mnt/mountpoint. Make sure that /mnt/mountpoint exists or run mkdir to
create this.
3. If you want automounting then you will have to dig in deeper and do
man fstab Understand how this works and then go ahead. Alternatively
find distro like Ubuntu that is already set to do so.

Hope this is clear. Enjoy.
--
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Learning Linux
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-02 Thread विवेक ऐय ्यर விவேக ஐய்யர் Vivek Iyyer
On 3/1/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 like windows do self check that usb has been attached
 y cant linux do
 n if it do how?

where's your Gramma(r)? ;-)

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[ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-01 Thread ankit walia
like windows do self check that usb has been attached
y cant linux do
n if it do how?
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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-01 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 like windows do self check that usb has been attached
 y cant linux do
 n if it do how?

D00D!!??!

lnx cn do it...chk it out.

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Re: [ilugd] usb mounting

2006-03-01 Thread Gaurav Mishra
It`s instantly recon on Ubuntu .

even it doesn`t say safely remove . lolz
On 3/2/06, ankit walia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 like windows do self check that usb has been attached
 y cant linux do
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