Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
These are the times when State intervenes every moment into every bit of personal data: more as a preemptive bid. Are all these bits and pieces, Google Earth, Wikimapia, and now this Google Desktop just ploys in that maneuver? Just curious what other people on LUG List are thinking? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
On 29-Jun-07, at 10:01 PM, Ravi Shanker wrote: > You didn't get what exactly I wanted to say. > ophs, no its not you, Its me who cannot make the thing clear what > actually I want to say. > Anyway, let me out of this discussion. Sorry for what I said. no need to be sorry - you made several vaild points and started an interesting thread. Other people have other points of view. So dont take it as personal criticism -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
You didn't get what exactly I wanted to say. ophs, no its not you, Its me who cannot make the thing clear what actually I want to say. Anyway, let me out of this discussion. Sorry for what I said. On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 21:53 +0530, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: > > > >> kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely > >> on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting > >> carefully. so you can save your energy. :-) > >> hehehee > >> > >> :-) > >> niyam > > > > Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical > > architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and > > server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It > > gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to > > developers so that they can build something best for you. > > In the book "The Google Story" or somewhere on internet, the Brin or > > Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google > > miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search > > engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research. > > Google technologies, would have been more better, if they've released > them under GPL kind of license like Affero GPL[1]. By doing that, their > technologies will be reviewed by community. And license like Affero > GPL, will also provide protection to Google, from their technologies > becoming closed sourced. > > > Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make > > Opensource better. ANd not opensource is the only topic in compute and > > IT. > > It seems, you mean that Microsoft is also doing good by closing their > source code. And BtW, Microsoft also has their research division > Microsoft Research, doing some cool research, and spending lots of > money on R&D stuff. And open source is not some topic, it is a philosphy. > > > And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google > > have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in > > less better computer world. > > Free Software is not about money, it is about freedom to do whatever > you wanted to do (including modifying) with software, except making it > closed source. So, if Google charges money for their service, it is > fine, they're running clusters of servers, and they need someway to > pay for the cost of running clusters. > > > > > Please search for the youTube video "The Future of technology : By Eric > > Schmidt" national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING. > > April 26, 2006. > > and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are > > giving out money to make world better. > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > Ravi S. Kr > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com > > Blog: http://ra21vi.blogspot.com > > > > [1] http://www.affero.org/oagf.html#How_does_this_license_protect_the > > Thanks > Ashish Shukla > - - -- > Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" > आशीष शुक्ल > > weblog: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ > webpages: http://wahjava.googlepages.com/ > > ,= ,-_-. =. | A: Yes.| > ((_/)o o(\_)) | >Q: Are you sure? | > `-'(. .)`-' | >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | > \_/ | >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? | > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGhTILHy+EEHYuXnQRAinIAJwO0E5PdxgfNMzQSSKSf5OLH+0T1QCgyQau > h5skxy9tylnhCMJG7PWI9YY= > =U0UD > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ravi Shanker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: > >> kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely >> on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting >> carefully. so you can save your energy. :-) >> hehehee >> >> :-) >> niyam > > Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical > architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and > server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It > gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to > developers so that they can build something best for you. > In the book "The Google Story" or somewhere on internet, the Brin or > Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google > miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search > engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research. Google technologies, would have been more better, if they've released them under GPL kind of license like Affero GPL[1]. By doing that, their technologies will be reviewed by community. And license like Affero GPL, will also provide protection to Google, from their technologies becoming closed sourced. > Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make > Opensource better. ANd not opensource is the only topic in compute and > IT. It seems, you mean that Microsoft is also doing good by closing their source code. And BtW, Microsoft also has their research division Microsoft Research, doing some cool research, and spending lots of money on R&D stuff. And open source is not some topic, it is a philosphy. > And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google > have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in > less better computer world. Free Software is not about money, it is about freedom to do whatever you wanted to do (including modifying) with software, except making it closed source. So, if Google charges money for their service, it is fine, they're running clusters of servers, and they need someway to pay for the cost of running clusters. > > Please search for the youTube video "The Future of technology : By Eric > Schmidt" national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING. > April 26, 2006. > and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are > giving out money to make world better. > > Cheers > > -- > > Ravi S. Kr > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com > Blog: http://ra21vi.blogspot.com > [1] http://www.affero.org/oagf.html#How_does_this_license_protect_the Thanks Ashish Shukla - - -- Ashish Shukla "Wah Java !!" आशीष शुक्ल weblog: http://wahjava.wordpress.com/ webpages: http://wahjava.googlepages.com/ ,= ,-_-. =. | A: Yes.| ((_/)o o(\_)) | >Q: Are you sure? | `-'(. .)`-' | >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. | \_/ | >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGhTILHy+EEHYuXnQRAinIAJwO0E5PdxgfNMzQSSKSf5OLH+0T1QCgyQau h5skxy9tylnhCMJG7PWI9YY= =U0UD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 22:34 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: > kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely > on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting > carefully. so you can save your energy. :-) > hehehee > > :-) > niyam Niyam, do you want GOoGle to give you the Gmail codes and technical architecture so that you will develop better email solution from it and server the Humanity. Google gives you the best what it can give you. It gives you best search Engine for world, and it gives best environment to developers so that they can build something best for you. In the book "The Google Story" or somewhere on internet, the Brin or Page said that the competitors are always trying to make google miserable, but what the Google's more that 2000 engineers in search engine project doing, they are doing the pure engineering and research. Google spends a lot (not only its money, but also dev resources) to make Opensource better. ANd not opensource is the only topic in compute and IT. And for rest of the thing, just think what would have happened if Google have charged you just a penny for its service. We would have been in less better computer world. Please search for the youTube video "The Future of technology : By Eric Schmidt" national venture capital Association, 2006 ANNUAL MEETING. April 26, 2006. and watch what they say to people for better service and how they are giving out money to make world better. Cheers -- Ravi S. Kr Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage : http://ra21vi.googlepages.com Blog: http://ra21vi.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
> > > and this mail is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) kenneth, i've already taken my own ass by mentioning how shamelessly i rely on google for my total internet experience. please read my earlier posting carefully. so you can save your energy. :-) hehehee :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
On 28-Jun-07, at 4:22 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: > however, is there any way of communicating with google that "just > being > useful" is okay, but not being community-focussed and with proprietory > software for end-users, they are as, ummm... "evil [is that a good > word?] as > microsoft"? and this mail is from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070628/tc_pcworld/133543 > Google Inc. plans to launch a Linux version of Google Desktop on Wednesday, almost three years >after the product's launch for the Windows operating system. [snip] yawn! 01. first it's late. ironic. google treats the gnulinux end-user community rather shoddily with development and availability of end-user software. Yet google is the first to use all thing gnulinux to fuel its multi-billion dollar empire. no prizes for guessing: gnulinux-versions out only because hey! the foss community is collateral damage in the business-rivalry between google and microsoft. 02. it's not free software. they deserve a google-whack! for all my whining, i do use google's web-search engine, and am using their gmail service to send this email. i also appreciate their summer-of-love distortion, and their releasing a whole of developer-centric stuff back to the community. however, is there any way of communicating with google that "just being useful" is okay, but not being community-focussed and with proprietory software for end-users, they are as, ummm... "evil [is that a good word?] as microsoft"? proprietory, free-to-use software is freeware. and those are as valuable to a software-firm, as giving away free cigarettes is for a cigarette-vendor. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
Thats right, Beagle uses resources heavily. I too have disabled it and using Tracker which uses less than Beagle. But again, after installing tracker, Application and system reactions are poor to some extent. I havent uses Google Desktop. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
On 6/28/07, Gaurav Mishra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/28/07, Vikas Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is google desktop any better than say beagle? > > > No i don`t think so , I have a dual boot machine and i find beagle > much accurate than Google desktop But what about the resource usage? Many people have complained of beagle using too much resources and have disabled it. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
On 6/28/07, Vikas Rawal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is google desktop any better than say beagle? > No i don`t think so , I have a dual boot machine and i find beagle much accurate than Google desktop > Vikas > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ > -- Linux User #348873 ILUGD Commitee Member, GZLUG , DGLUG Moderator B.Tech 4th Year Computer Science , RKGIT , Ghaziabad http://rockybhai.blogspot.com "When i can run , i will run , When i can walk , i will walk, When i can crawl , i will crawl. But i will not stop moving forward" ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Google Desktop Finally Out for Linux
Is google desktop any better than say beagle? Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
