Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:21 AM, A. Mani wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhir Gandotra > wrote: > >> > > Which hardware ? > > No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their > > board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board > > becomes a costly paper-weight for me. > > > > > Vendors have mostly been slaves of M$ and idiots at that and have been > guided by standard evil marketing principles. > > There are certifications for different hardware by canonical for e.g. > Fedora collects huge amount of data relating to h/w at all stages of > development, but they use a community approach. > There are firms like http://www.linux-tested.com/ > > How many companies do h/w certification for GNU/Linux in India? > > -- > A. Mani > CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS > http://www.logicamani.co.cc > > On their website, they are not showing any tests done for any of the mother-boards. Its mainly for complete machines and other devices. -- *Wish you an "era of Realization & Mobilization"* Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: >> > Which hardware ? > No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their > board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board > becomes a costly paper-weight for me. > Vendors have mostly been slaves of M$ and idiots at that and have been guided by standard evil marketing principles. There are certifications for different hardware by canonical for e.g. Fedora collects huge amount of data relating to h/w at all stages of development, but they use a community approach. There are firms like http://www.linux-tested.com/ How many companies do h/w certification for GNU/Linux in India? Best A. Mani -- A. Mani CU, ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://www.logicamani.co.cc ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Most of these distros are binary based, i.e., they are compiled for generic hardware. They detect the hardware and load the appropriate driver modules. what i am trying to say is, between the time their kernel was compiled and now, drivers for newer hardware may have been written and to use those drivers you need to either update your kernel via the package manager or if that doesn't do the job then compile the latest kernel. On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Sanjay Arora wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM, chandrakant kumar >wrote: > > > Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all > > distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support > > for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org > > and compile it. > > > > Suredrivers are now mostly kernel loadable modules. But, drivers are > written for particular hardware and need to be included in the distro, for > it to support that hardware. > > Earlier, they used to be in kernel, now dynamically loaded as kernel > modules, but the responsibility to include them still rests with the > distros. > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 9:51 PM, chandrakant kumar wrote: > Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all > distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support > for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org > and compile it. > > Suredrivers are now mostly kernel loadable modules. But, drivers are written for particular hardware and need to be included in the distro, for it to support that hardware. Earlier, they used to be in kernel, now dynamically loaded as kernel modules, but the responsibility to include them still rests with the distros. ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Drivers are the part of kernel not the distro. As per my knowledge all distros use same kernel with some custom patches. If you want support for latest hardware, download the latest kernel source from kernel.org and compile it. On 11/20/11, Sanjay Arora wrote: > I bought a dh67bl with i7, for use with centos 6. Ultimately had to install > fedora 15, as rhel is not yet supporting Intel Sandybridge architecture. > Turns out, if you are putting in a separate graphics card, Linux will work > very well on this board...however, if you propose to use onboard graphics > port, only the bleeding edge distros like fedora or scientific linux will > support it. > > Reason is nothing but the new Intel Sandybridge architecture, which adds > graphics (for non-high end graphic applications) to the processor. > > Due to the architecture being new, the LTS or Enterprise are not yet > supporting it out of box, as the distros have not yet back-ported the > drivers. > > I think centos 6.1 will be supporting sandybridge...so lots of graphics > problems will be going away. > > Another problem is the onboard network card. Sometimes you need drivers for > the newer hardware and those are not yet back-ported from bleeding edge > distros. > > If you are willing to use a bleeding edge distros or adding a > graphics/network card, most motherboards will work...even the new > onemost!!!not all > > Ciao > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I bought a dh67bl with i7, for use with centos 6. Ultimately had to install fedora 15, as rhel is not yet supporting Intel Sandybridge architecture. Turns out, if you are putting in a separate graphics card, Linux will work very well on this board...however, if you propose to use onboard graphics port, only the bleeding edge distros like fedora or scientific linux will support it. Reason is nothing but the new Intel Sandybridge architecture, which adds graphics (for non-high end graphic applications) to the processor. Due to the architecture being new, the LTS or Enterprise are not yet supporting it out of box, as the distros have not yet back-ported the drivers. I think centos 6.1 will be supporting sandybridge...so lots of graphics problems will be going away. Another problem is the onboard network card. Sometimes you need drivers for the newer hardware and those are not yet back-ported from bleeding edge distros. If you are willing to use a bleeding edge distros or adding a graphics/network card, most motherboards will work...even the new onemost!!!not all Ciao ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I've been running an ASUS P8P67 Pro with an i5 2500K with Ubuntu 11.10.
HTH. I've had a lot more issues due to my Radeon card than the mobo,
Everything ran out of the box.
But you will definitely find yourself irritated with the fact that only
Windows is able to harness everything. For instance, half the sensors will
fail to show up, and only Windows can shut off one or more of your fans on
demand. If you're box runs 24x7 that does matter.
There is a problem with suspending the session that's the same with
Windows, OS X and Linux.
Rishab Arora
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> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:31:41 +0530
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> Hello List,
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> It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports
> Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs.
>
> Probably I am missing something.
>
> Any pointers in the right direction please ?
>
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> From: ashish...@lostca.se (Ashish SHUKLA)
> To: sudhirgando...@gmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with
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> Sudhir Gandotra writes:
> > Hello List,
>
> > It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports
> > Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs.
>
> I'm using Intel DX58SO[1] with Intel i7 CPU since last year without any
> issues
> with Arch GNU/Linux (amd64), and FreeBSD 8.1/8.2 (amd64).
>
> References:
> [1]
> http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dx58so.html
>
> HTH
> - --
> Ashish SHUKLA
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Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:34 PM, chandrakant kumar wrote: > Have you actually tried running any of these distros on hardware you are > talking about?If yes, what is the error message? > > Which hardware ? No vendor is giving a board with assurance that Linux runs on their board/s. If I but without that assurance, and it does not work, the board becomes a costly paper-weight for me. The currently available boards of MSI, Intel, Asus etc. do not come with Linux support mentioned. That is where the trouble lies. I wonder if there is a quiet conspiracy/plan to close support to Linux on commodity boards by the vendors ? Till the time of Dual core and then Core2Duo, this was not the case. > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Sudhir Gandotra > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar > > wrote: >> >>> I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of >>> kernel. >>> >> >> >> I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, >> Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 >> so, that rules out talking of older kernels. >> >> But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra < >>> sudhirgando...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello List, It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. Probably I am missing something. Any pointers in the right direction please ? -- >> *Wish you an "era of Realization & Mobilization"* >> >> Peace, Force & Joy! >> Sudhir Gandotra. >> +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 >> >> *You don't need violence to shake the world*** >> > > ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
Have you actually tried running any of these distros on hardware you are talking about?If yes, what is the error message? On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar > wrote: > >> I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of >> kernel. >> > > > I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, > Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 > so, that rules out talking of older kernels. > > But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. > > > >> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra < >> sudhirgando...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello List, >>> >>> It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports >>> Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. >>> >>> Probably I am missing something. >>> >>> Any pointers in the right direction please ? >>> >>> -- > *Wish you an "era of Realization & Mobilization"* > > Peace, Force & Joy! > Sudhir Gandotra. > +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 > > *You don't need violence to shake the world*** > ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:41 PM, chandrakant kumar wrote: > I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of > kernel. > I think I have clearly mentioned that I want to run : Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11 so, that rules out talking of older kernels. But, maybe, yes, I might be missing something. > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra < > sudhirgando...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello List, >> >> It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports >> Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. >> >> Probably I am missing something. >> >> Any pointers in the right direction please ? >> >> -- *Wish you an "era of Realization & Mobilization"* Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra. +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 *You don't need violence to shake the world*** ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
I don't think that is the case, may be you are running older version of kernel. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > Hello List, > > It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports > Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs. > > Probably I am missing something. > > Any pointers in the right direction please ? > > -- > *Wish you an "era of Realization & Mobilization"* > > Peace, Force & Joy! > Sudhir Gandotra. > +91-98101-20918 / +91-93124-65666 > > *You don't need violence to shake the world* > ___ > Ilugd mailing list > Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop with I5, I7 CPU
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Sudhir Gandotra writes:
> Hello List,
> It is increasing becoming difficult to find a mother-board that supports
> Linux (CentOS 6, Fedora 15, Ubuntu 11) with Intel's I3, I5 and I7 CPUs.
I'm using Intel DX58SO[1] with Intel i7 CPU since last year without any issues
with Arch GNU/Linux (amd64), and FreeBSD 8.1/8.2 (amd64).
References:
[1]
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dx58so.html
HTH
- --
Ashish SHUKLA
“"Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect"”
("Ion-Mihai Tetcu", ".sig of Ion-Mihai Tetcu")
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