Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
The great thing is that Manish Verma from Rediff did get in touch with me 
after my mail, and offered to help. I probably have been too quick to judge 
them. And he assured me that their abuse address does work and they have a 
dedicated spam team. 

I've worked with rediff in the past and they are good guys
And they have good guys like Russ Nelson consulting for them
srs
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Sunday 05 Sep 2004 9:22 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

 Is indiatimes blocking you or are you blocking indiatimes?


The issues got mixed up in the mail. :) Rediff is blocking me, and I have 
blocked Indiatimes ( I dont want to make an exception to my RBL checking).

The great thing is that Manish Verma from Rediff did get in touch with me 
after my mail, and offered to help. I probably have been too quick to judge 
them. And he assured me that their abuse address does work and they have a 
dedicated spam team. 

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Hi Sandip,

  Can you let me know how to contact Manish Verman from Rediff.

  Rediff has also block-listed my IP. Actually, the problem is that
dnsbl black-lists the IP and I don't know how to setup reverse DNS.

  Any help in this direction would be helpful.


Cheers,
Gaurav
http://www.mastergaurav.org
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:36:44 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya
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 On Sunday 05 Sep 2004 9:22 am, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
 
  Is indiatimes blocking you or are you blocking indiatimes?
 
 
 The issues got mixed up in the mail. :) Rediff is blocking me, and I have
 blocked Indiatimes ( I dont want to make an exception to my RBL checking).
 
 The great thing is that Manish Verma from Rediff did get in touch with me
 after my mail, and offered to help. I probably have been too quick to judge
 them. And he assured me that their abuse address does work and they have a
 dedicated spam team.
 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Gaurav Vaish wrote:
  Can you let me know how to contact Manish Verman from Rediff.
  Rediff has also block-listed my IP. Actually, the problem is that
dnsbl black-lists the IP and I don't know how to setup reverse DNS.
  Any help in this direction would be helpful.
Help?  Well,
1. Ask your ISP who gave you your IP to set up reverse DNS for you
2. Set your mailserver up to accept mail for that reverse DNS record 
name (say if reverse dns is set up to call itself mail.yourdomain.com 
then you set your mailserver to accept mail for that name)

3. Secure your open relay (read the faqs at http://www.dsbl.org) - dsbl 
is the one that asks for reverse dns records before they consider delisting

4. Go to http://www.dsbl.org and file your IP for a retest there
srs
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Done everything except for #1. Will do so on the next working day.
Today is Sunday!


Gaurav


On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:22:47 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian
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 Gaurav Vaish wrote:
Can you let me know how to contact Manish Verman from Rediff.
 
Rediff has also block-listed my IP. Actually, the problem is that
  dnsbl black-lists the IP and I don't know how to setup reverse DNS.
 
Any help in this direction would be helpful.
 
 Help?  Well,
 
 1. Ask your ISP who gave you your IP to set up reverse DNS for you
 
 2. Set your mailserver up to accept mail for that reverse DNS record
 name (say if reverse dns is set up to call itself mail.yourdomain.com
 then you set your mailserver to accept mail for that name)
 
 3. Secure your open relay (read the faqs at http://www.dsbl.org) - dsbl
 is the one that asks for reverse dns records before they consider delisting
 
 4. Go to http://www.dsbl.org and file your IP for a retest there
 
srs
 
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Sunday 05 Sep 2004 4:13 pm, Gaurav Vaish wrote:
 Hi Sandip,

   Can you let me know how to contact Manish Verman from Rediff.

   Rediff has also block-listed my IP. Actually, the problem is that
 dnsbl black-lists the IP and I don't know how to setup reverse DNS.

By IP? That is uncommon. Rediff is one of the few people who have been 
blacklisting by domain (for their internal RBL databases). If your IP is 
blocked it is likely that you are listed elsewhere. Check openrbl.org for 
testing whether your IP is listed elsewhere.

And as I mentioned earlier, (abuse  AT rediffmail DOT com ) works!

- Sandip

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Ajit Ranade


folks (esp sandip)

while we are on this topic, can you also guide us vsn-as-dialup-ISP users,
on how to get our dynamic IP off RBLs? i think organised action helps, and
if the ISP understands that many users are affected, they make take some
corrective action. like giving us authenticated SMTP fr example.

i am sure that this email is going to bounce back from most of the
recepients. raju, request you to post on ilugd.

thanks for any help/guidance.

ajit.

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Re: [ilugd] Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...

2004-09-05 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
On Monday 06 Sep 2004 8:34 am, Ajit Ranade wrote:
 folks (esp sandip)

 while we are on this topic, can you also guide us vsn-as-dialup-ISP users,
 on how to get our dynamic IP off RBLs? i think organised action helps, and

Well, firstly these IPs are not in standard RBLs. They are in DUL lists. 
Unless I am mistaken, not too many mail servers block DUL  IPs. They most 
probably subject it to more stricter checks. I, for example, give a higher 
spam value in Spam Assassin to these emails, simply because the number of 
spam coming from DUL far outmatches legitimate emails.

Also, remember, that either Tata Indicom/VSNL has voluntarily submitted its 
dialup pool, or somebody has taken the trouble to find out and submit them. 
Either way, people out there (mailadmins) have an interest in tracking 
dynamic IPs around the world.

As far as i see it, the only way to take IPs off DUL lists is by proving that 
they are not dynamic. :) That is the whole purpose of that list isnt it?

What is worthy of a protest is asking Tata Indicom/VSNL to take off that brain 
dead policy of alllowing only mails sent from Tata Indicom/VSNL email ids to 
be sent through their mail servers.

Another thing, always use the Tata Indicom name wheneevr you are talking about 
VSNL. It seems that Tata Indicom is choosy about how to use their brand name. 
They let obnoxious policies like these be publicised using the brand name of 
VSNL, while they promote their own brand name whenever a marketing pitchis to 
be made. Every body should know that Tata Indicom and VSNL are the same. Only 
when the Tata Indicom brand name/image gets a hit, will they take their 
stupid policy off. So repeat after me:

Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad 
Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata Indicom! Bad Tata 
Indicom! 

:)

 if the ISP understands that many users are affected, they make take some
 corrective action. like giving us authenticated SMTP fr example.

 i am sure that this email is going to bounce back from most of the
 recepients. raju, request you to post on ilugd.

Well, it landed in my junk folder all right! :)

- Sandip

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