Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
On Saturday 04 Oct 2008, Vikas Rawal wrote: [snip] 5. I have both ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny installed on the system. They share /home, and therefore, much of the gnome configuration files. With the same configuration, Debian's default appearance seems ugly in comparison with ubuntu. In particular, the fonts are too large and made the desktop and some applications look ugly. Both ubuntu and debian have the same screen resolution (1280x800) and it does not look like either has a problem with my graphics card (intel). My present solution is to shift to a smaller size, but that does not solve all the problems. For example, emacs still has HUGE fonts. You could try changing the screen resolution and see if that helps. If your resolution is set to 120 dpi you will get huge fonts. [snip] To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than ubuntu did. Glad to hear that :) Regards, -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F PsyTrance Chill: http://schizoid.in/ || It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
You could try changing the screen resolution and see if that helps. If your resolution is set to 120 dpi you will get huge fonts. [snip] To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than ubuntu did. Glad to hear that :) Regards, -- Raju The following command on both ubuntu and debian gives identical results. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xdpyinfo | grep dots resolution:125x125 dots per inch It is not obvious to me why the fonts should be rendered so differently. Should I try higher or lower dpi? The xorg version that comes with lenny does not require font specifications in xorg.conf. I am not too sure about how to change dpi. I read somewhere that I could give an additional argument in gdmsetup to do it. Thanks very much, Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :) [snipped] -- Raju I actually took Raju's bait and installed debian testing on the laptop. And this mail is to thank him and record the preliminary results of the shift. 1. Debian (testing/lenny) installed without any issue. 2. As Raj had pointed out, the ethernet card worked once the latest kernel was used. 3. Wireless card worked with ndiswrapper. I had only the first dvd of the lenny distribution. Thoughtfully, ndiswrapper was provided on it so I did not have to connect to the internet to install it. 4. Interestingly, the internal mic did not work with ubuntu despite all sorts of tweaking. The webcam worked after some work. Quite a few people have written on the internet about problems with getting ubuntu to use internal mic on Del vostro laptops. These did not work with even the latest (2.6.27) kernel on ubuntu. With debian lenny (2.6.26 kernel), internal mic and the webcam worked straight out of box!! 5. I have both ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny installed on the system. They share /home, and therefore, much of the gnome configuration files. With the same configuration, Debian's default appearance seems ugly in comparison with ubuntu. In particular, the fonts are too large and made the desktop and some applications look ugly. Both ubuntu and debian have the same screen resolution (1280x800) and it does not look like either has a problem with my graphics card (intel). My present solution is to shift to a smaller size, but that does not solve all the problems. For example, emacs still has HUGE fonts. 6. Running compiz on debian required some tweaking of xorg.conf. To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than ubuntu did. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
Vikas On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you please explain what does this command do. I tried and it worked. But only once. I updated the packages. But then I put pci=routeirq in the menu.lst, so that it will be called at boot. But next time it does not work!! I tried rebooting, checked the command, ... but no luck. This is weird. Could you please help. Upgrade may have upgraded the kernel subversion as well. Try the above kernel command line with kernel 2.6.24-18-generic only. You may have to find other solution(s) for any other kernel version. :( Vikas HTH With regards, -- --Dinesh Shah :-) Shah Micro System +91-98213-11906 Edith Sitwell - I wish the government would put a tax on pianos for the incompetent. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
Upgrade may have upgraded the kernel subversion as well. Try the above kernel command line with kernel 2.6.24-18-generic only. It was useful anyway. In that one session when your solution helped me connect to the internet, i installed ndiswrapper. And from the drivers that came with the machine, I found the windows driver for the broadcom wlan card. So, although the ethernet does not work anymore, wireless does. So, thanks very much. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
I have same chipset in my desktop an with kernel version 2.6.24-18-generic I have added following kernel command line to make it work pci=routeirq Please try the above and add it at boot and see if it resolves the issue. Could you please explain what does this command do. I tried and it worked. But only once. I updated the packages. But then I put pci=routeirq in the menu.lst, so that it will be called at boot. But next time it does not work!! I tried rebooting, checked the command, ... but no luck. This is weird. Could you please help. Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310
Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :) I agree. This machine, however, is for someone else who has is somewhat familiar with ubuntu and would not want to try other distributions. And my take is, the jump from windows to ubuntu has been a big one for someone with a long experience of having used only windows. Let him stick to whatever distribution the person is okay with until all temptations of shifting to windows are gone. I'm a bit surprised that you, well-informed about the dangers of unsupported cards, still went ahead and bought a laptop without first checking whether all the hardware was supported or not. How come? Well, purchasing the computer is a complex decision. First, most of what you get in the market is bundled with some hardware that comes with proprietary drivers for windows only. And, by and large, on linux, there are ways of handling most of these hardware problems. So you have ndiswrapper for wireless cards and things like that. True the performance is not as great as it would be if you had proper drivers. But then it works okay. Do you think that this confidence is misplaced? Second, the decision to purchase also depends on cost, assessment of problems with service and repairs, and a lot of other things. :) Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
