Re: iMac and Office problems

2010-08-18 Thread Tom Coradeschi

At 3:54 PM -0700 08/16/2010, Art wrote:

My wife has an aluminum iMac, two gig speed, one gig RAM. A copy of
Microsoft Office-Family  Student Edition is installed on.  After the
last update to Office, all the programs, Word, Excel, etc. began
crashing. Sometimes you can actually get a document opened before it
crashes but usually just the startup screen.  I've reinstalled Office
(made sure I had the right serial number) plus all the updates--no
joy. This set up worked fine previously. I also have the same setup on
a MacBook (also 2 gig) that continues to work fine.


Back in the OS9 days, trashing the preferences file for MS Office 
would cure a myriad of woes. Go to Home-Library-Preferences and 
look for anything with the word microsoft in the name, delete it, 
empty the trash and then see what happens. Can't hurt!

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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Eric Volker
There may be some basis in factfor this claim. IIRC , two identical
ram modules can operate in dual channel mode. So though you  would
still only have 3gb ofaddressable ram, access times mightbe faster.
This can provide a big boost in synthetic benchmarks, but rarely have
I seen a significant improvement in real world performance.

Eric

On 8/17/10, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:

 On Aug 17, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

 This makes me recall some Apple document I read somewhere, about
 excessive bong usage... ;-)

 Most likely from the Santa Cruz division.


 F

 On Aug 17, 2:44 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 11:07 AM -0700 8/17/2010, Ashgrove wrote:

 Oh, COME ON, folks. Chime in. Plez. ;-)

 Anybody?

 *BONG*

 How's that?

 I've got only one previous message with this subject - the body of
 the message be empty.

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Re: Switching G5 mob with Intel Core Duo mob?

2010-08-18 Thread larry jenkins
Sounds interesting.  If such a thing is possible, I would be  
interested as well.

I think my iMac G5 is similar.  Mine is the 20 inch.

On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:18 PM, sustain wrote:


Hello!

I would like to switch my G5 mob with a 2.16GHz Core Duo mob
(compatible with snow leopard?) that doesn't power on. The seller
doesn't know why.

Is the G5 power supply compatible with the Core Duo? The working iMac
has the following designations:

 Model Name:iMac G5
 Model Identifier:  PowerMac8,2
 Processor Name:PowerPC G5  (3.0)
 Processor Speed:   2 GHz
 Number Of CPUs:1
 L2 Cache (per CPU):512 KB
 Memory:2 GB
 Bus Speed: 667 MHz
 Boot ROM Version:  5.2.5f1
 Serial Number (system):W85197HHSDY
 Hardware UUID: --1000-8000-0011243BE39C

Thanks!

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Re: iMac and Office problems

2010-08-18 Thread Arthur Mickel
Tried that too--no joy.
On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

 
 On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Art wrote:
 
  I've reinstalled Office
 (made sure I had the right serial number) plus all the updates--no
 joy. This set up worked fine previously. I also have the same setup on
 a MacBook (also 2 gig) that continues to work fine.
 
 
 On the iMac, run the Office Removal tool (found on the install disk) and get 
 rid of everything. Then re-install Office. MS stashes stuff all over the 
 place.
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Re: time warp computer lab of iMac G3s

2010-08-18 Thread Emma
Hi all,
Just got back from the wilds of Wisconsin where I have been in
occasional WIFI territory.  3,250 miles on the van!  My iMacs and I
live in Connecticut, up in the the NE Quiet Corner (translate
pretty, but a bit depressed economically...actually if you are a
farmer it is good and we have mostly dairy).

I teach in Manchester CT, an hour away, which is right next to
Hartford.

You are certainly right about me needing RAM!  That is on my list at
the top to track down.

As for software, I talked my art dept into a Photoshop Elements 10
license deal years ago, and I now am the only user of it.  I also
brought in my own ancient Photoshop 4(?) for a machine...kids are fine
with anything.  Unlike adults, they don't freeze up if confronted with
a million buttons.   I use Scratch and SketchUp with 5th grade and
sometimes 4th.  I have lots of Wilton ART CDs that are really nice but
crash fairly often.  Some of my best art CDs only work with OS 9 which
prompted me to keep the iMac lab vintage.  I only have two OS X
machines, one came that way and the other I was just curious to do
it.  Works great.   The extension hassles I remember from when I had
an iMac first time around are still a mystery to me but I have learned
to relax in the intervening years and simply get the darn thing to
work, by hook or by crook.   I should add that the school issued me a
MacBook that I use for presentations and let kids use SOMETIMES...I
bought a keyboard cover to keep kid crud off it.  Art rooms can have
special problems when it comes to electronic equipment :-)

When school opens I'll post a photo of my new lab set up...the new
tables are awesome...and iMacs always look great!

Again, thanks for all the support.  I am sure I will be mining this
group for answers to more specific problems as I get more machines
ready to roll.
Emma



On Aug 3, 5:41 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:
 On 7/26/10 7:14 AM, Emma wrote:





  I just wanted to share my pet project with anyone who would understand
  how cool I feel it is.  I have NO budget for computers as I am an
  elementary school art teacher in an economically stressed city, but
  luckily my room is next to the town warehouse so I have a shot at
  spotting discarded equipment from other schools. I actually broke down
  and bought a Flower Power off Ebay with my own money last month
  because I could not resist :-)

  My software is time warp as well so all this works just fine.  Kids
  love looking inside the case when they notice they can...

  Here is my lab, each G3 has a name so I can tell a child to go use
  Sunny, etc.  I am still getting it in shape (with the help of the
  town IT team when I am out of my depth).

 https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvP6lCScTDdOdFZqb3ZsZ09teWt2...

  Like I said, it is a pleasure to be able to share my enthusiasm for
  iMac G3s!
  onwards and upwards,
  Emma

 Been there done that (even have a T-Shirt but not specific to education).

 You might want to post (roughly) where you are, people might have some
 oldies they'd be willing to supply.

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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexander Blok

 On 17/08/2010 20:07, Ashgrove wrote:

Oh, COME ON, folks. Chime in. Plez. ;-)

Anybody?


I really don't know.
Sorry, but as to usefulness you altready guessed that a 4gb machine 
would help more in practice than a 3... As top how to make that happen 
if that is even your question, I can't help but say that maybe the sdram 
slot would allow for a 4gb ram print.


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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Alexander Blok

 On 17/08/2010 20:46, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Ashgrove wrote:


Oh, COME ON, folks. Chime in. Plez. ;-)

Anybody?

Magic 8-ball says Answer hazy: ask again later

The standard answer should I add more RAM? is: If your system bottleneck is 
memory, adding more RAM will help.

If you boost it to 4 gigs, you'll get the use of 3 gigs of RAM. You'll lose a 
smidge of performance by not getting RAM interleaving (which IIRC Intel iMacs 
will take advantage of) but you'll gain a gig of RAM.

However, if you're currently not constrained by RAM, you won't see any 
performance improvement; in fact you'll only see the smidge of performance 
degradation.

A very intelligent email... Personally i don't have to worry one way or 
another.

Financially i am set a little.
And memeory wise I am fine within the confines of what i want to be doing.

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Re: Antw:Re: installing linux.

2010-08-18 Thread Alexander Blok

 Op 10/08/10, Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca schreef:

  although this may not be for everyone I got Ubuntu to mail me their  live  
disc and then I  just run Ubuntu/Linux from the CD rather then take up hard drive space 
and the installation hassle.

I wouldn't mind that but I do prefer installing such.
However, I don't get any form of recognition of my western digital hd within 
bootcamp but does that mean it is useless top consider installing linux on such 
valid?
That'd tear things for me somewhat.

I'm curious what bbs software you're interested in running...it may well have 
been ported to OS X.

Also, see:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac

There is no real need to go through the torturous process of installing 
windows...


Ehm well I used to run baudbandit I think on my a4000.. But it's been 
years. I could easily, I think, get used to new bbs software if I put 
some serious effort into things and since I'm in between jobs and 
writing tasks I have the time to do so. And would otherwise get a bit bored.
As to the software i'm considering.. It's called bbs100 and runs native 
on linux.


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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-08-17 12:07 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

Oh, COME ON, folks. Chime in. Plez. ;-)

Anybody?


Visit http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa and ask Mother Apple

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How to update Apple software on tangerine iMac now at OS X 10.4.11

2010-08-18 Thread Stanton Mitrany
Hi, I'm hoping to prepare this machine for some of my grandchildren to use for homework and educational games.I'm trying to figure the easiest way to update Apple's software on this machine, which has 192 MB of RAM on a 400MHz CPU. I only have a wireless signal at my location, and not a way to connect this machine to the internet via a dial-up telephone-line-based internet connection or account using the iMac's internal 56KB/s modem.One way might be to hook up my MacBook late 2009 2.26MHz to the iMac via an Ethernet cable, and use the MacBook to connect the iMac to the internet. I don't know if this is a workable approach, and I don't know how to do it.Or, if I knew what updaters I need for OS 10.4.11, Safari, Mail, iTunes, I would be able to download them to my MacBook, and then copy them to a USB Flash Drive to transfer them to the iMac. Once on the iMac's hard drive I'd then be able to run them.Of course, I don't know whether a combined updater would be feasible for this task, or individual updaters. I also don't know what order I'd have to follow to install them each properly.





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RE: iMac and Office problems

2010-08-18 Thread Papa
Recently, my son bought me the iMac with OSX.  I am new to Machintosh and
still learning.  I didn't like the starting and re-starting between
Operating systems to use Windows XP and MS Office 2007, so I installed the
Parallels program. 

Windows worked OK in Bootcamp but had to wait for a couple minutes to load.
Then the mouse seems to have a mind of its own and freezes and/or jumps all
over when in Bootcamp.  That was annoying to have to stop and start to
switch between the Machintosh and Windows.  With Paralleles it is no problem
and Windows runs much faster than in Bootcamp.  

My question is... now that I have Parallels installed can PC games be used
outside of Bootcamp?  I have been running games in the Bootcamp partition
and still have the occasional problem with the cursor.  I know I could try
it but thought I would get some opinions from some knowledgeable folks that
may know, before doing that... 

The next question is... If that works, Can Bootcamp be removed? 

What are your opinions, ideas or suggestions? 

Papasan 
Cantonment, FL
papas...@bellsouth.net.

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Subject: Re: iMac and Office problems

At 3:54 PM -0700 08/16/2010, Art wrote:
My wife has an aluminum iMac, two gig speed, one gig RAM. A copy of
Microsoft Office-Family  Student Edition is installed on.  After the
last update to Office, all the programs, Word, Excel, etc. began
crashing. Sometimes you can actually get a document opened before it
crashes but usually just the startup screen.  I've reinstalled Office
(made sure I had the right serial number) plus all the updates--no
joy. This set up worked fine previously. I also have the same setup on
a MacBook (also 2 gig) that continues to work fine.

Back in the OS9 days, trashing the preferences file for MS Office 
would cure a myriad of woes. Go to Home-Library-Preferences and 
look for anything with the word microsoft in the name, delete it, 
empty the trash and then see what happens. Can't hurt!
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Re: How to update Apple software on tangerine iMac now at OS X 10.4.11

2010-08-18 Thread Robert Esposito
Hi,
This iMac is going to struggle if you install OS X 10.4 and then upgrade it to 
10.4.11. It is not the upgrade that is the issue it is the G3 400MHz processor. 
This Mac would run very well with OS 9.2 for home work and educational games.

If you choose to go with OS X 10.4, You need more RAM than 192MB. I suggest 
512MB at a minimum for OS X 10.4.

Best Wishes,
Bob

On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote:

 Hi, I'm hoping to prepare this machine for some of my grandchildren to use 
 for homework and educational games.
 
 I'm trying to figure the easiest way to update Apple's software on this 
 machine, which has 192 MB of RAM on a 400MHz CPU. I only have a wireless 
 signal at my location, and not a way to connect this machine to the internet 
 via a dial-up telephone-line-based internet connection or account using the 
 iMac's internal 56KB/s modem.
 
 One way might be to hook up my MacBook late 2009 2.26MHz to the iMac via an 
 Ethernet cable, and use the MacBook to connect the iMac to the internet. I 
 don't know if this is a workable approach, and I don't know how to do it.
 
 Or, if I knew what updaters I need for OS 10.4.11, Safari, Mail, iTunes, I 
 would be able to download them to my MacBook, and then copy them to a USB 
 Flash Drive to transfer them to the iMac. Once on the iMac's hard drive I'd 
 then be able to run them.
 
 Of course, I don't know whether a combined updater would be feasible for this 
 task, or individual updaters. I also don't know what order I'd have to follow 
 to install them each properly.
 
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Re: How to update Apple software on tangerine iMac now at OS X 10.4.11

2010-08-18 Thread Jack Suggs
I'd take it to a friend's and borrow the Internet connection to run
Software Update. So much easier...

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Re: Antw:Re: installing linux.

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 17, 2010, at 12:41 AM, Alexander Blok wrote:

 As to the software i'm considering.. It's called bbs100 and runs native on 
 linux.

And it runs native on OS X.

From the bbs100 website:

http://www.heiho.net/bbs100/images/bbs100-macosx.jpg

It compiles under OS X perfectly fine. Straight up ./configure, make, make 
install. You don't need to install Linux. 

OS X is a perfectly capable Unix OS.

If you don't have the Developer tools (which includes the gcc toolchain) 
installed, you need to do that first, either by installing the Developer Tools 
package from your OS install disk or by downloading the latest version of XCode 
from Apple's Developer site (which requires a free registration):

http://developer.apple.com/mac/

Alternatively, you can use a project like MacPorts http://www.macports.org/ 
which has hundreds of ports of Linux software, very easily managed. Very nice 
for installing, for example, Gnome-based software without delving into 
prerequisites hell.

With MacPorts you'll want to install the X11 package, which has been an 
optional install in OSX since 10.3...

MacPorts doen't include bbs100, but since it doesn't need porting, I suspect 
they haven't bothered.

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Re: Formatting my root hd

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 15, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Alexander Blok wrote:

 Dear maccers,
 
 In order to install a functional form of windows I need to make a partition 
 on my root hard disk.
 However disk utility shows me that this cannot be done, due to the dispersal 
 of data across my drive.

Actually, you probably don't need to do that. Unless you're looking to play 
hardware-intensive games (in which case just go get a cheap PC to run them on) 
or software that doesn't play well with virtualization, it's almost always a 
vastly better option to use a virtualization option like Parallels, Fusion or 
the open-source VirtualBox http://www.virtualbox.org/ which is what I use.

 I have back such up before I attempted this but disk utility will now not 
 actually format the drive whilst well frankly that seems like the pertinent 
 option.

You have to boot from your installer DVD and run Disk Utility from the 
INstaller menu to reformat your boot drive.

 I am cleaning my hd as well as I can now but I am getting an error saying 
 that my file system is not ok.

Back up your important stuff. boot form your OS X installer and reformat and 
re-install. If you used Time Machine or something like Carbon Copy Cloner to 
back up your disk, OSX will even use the backup to restore your system to it's 
last backed-up state as part of the install process. VERY easy.

 Whilst well I reinstalled finder even yetserday in the hopes things would 
 work well enough like  windows to warrant such an operation.

That's a Windows solution to an OS X problem; akin to putting new tires on your 
car because your windshield wipers aren't working. You have a hard drive 
problem, whether it's impending hardware failure or just a messed up directory 
only time will tell. 

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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
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Re: How to update Apple software on tangerine iMac now at OS X 10.4.11

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 17, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Stanton Mitrany wrote:

 
 One way might be to hook up my MacBook late 2009 2.26MHz to the iMac via an 
 Ethernet cable, and use the MacBook to connect the iMac to the internet. I 
 don't know if this is a workable approach, and I don't know how to do it.


This is done via the Sharing pane in System PReferences, and it works like a 
charm. I've done it via ethernet, Airport and Firewire and all of them just 
work as advertised.
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Re: How to update Apple software on tangerine iMac now at OS X 10.4.11

2010-08-18 Thread Ashgrove
Hi Stanton,

Glad you're enjoying your grandchildren!

There are actually several workarounds for that.

1) You could share your MacBook's connection with an ethernet cable,
which is not hard to set up at all. The instructions are in your Mac's
help section.

2) Depending on how far is the router from the computer, you could use
a long ethernet cable to connect both of them.

3) You could get a USB wireless adapter. They are inexpensive and easy
to find these days. The LEM list and eBay are two good sources. It
won't be very fast, since it's limited by the USB 1.1 interface, but
that iMac is not exactly a speed demon, anyway.

4) If you want to keep the iMac offline (understandable, since it's
meant for children), you can simply look for the updates in Apple's
website, burn them to a CD, and then install them in order. They are
all here: http://www.apple.com/support/tiger/

Whichever way you choose to go, I'm with Bob --you'll need more
memory. As a habit, I max out my computers' RAM as soon as I get them,
or at least get as much RAM as I can afford. You'll be surprised how
much aggravation you'll save yourself in the long run.

Oh, and whatever you do --get them Myst. :-)

Best of luck,

Felix

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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Elliott Price
Having a Late 2006 iMac with 3gb of RAM, this is my 2 cents on this issue. My 
iMac runs great. I can't see how adding another gig that won't be addressed 
could help performance much. My advice is just be happy with 3Gb of RAM... I 
usually have multiple Adobe CS4 apps (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator) open 
at the same time, and never really see a performance hit. Unless your'e doing 
extremely RAM intensive tasks, 3gb is pretty decent. If performance is really 
that important, you could always upgrade to one of the newer aluminum ones. 
They all support 4Gb. 


-Elliott

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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Ashgrove
Alas, a newer iMac is not in the stars for now, so I have to squeeze
to the max the one I have.

3 gigs of RAM is usually more than enough for my needs, but I have a
tendency to run too may apps at once, and a lot of the simplest ones
are increasingly becoming memory hogs (iTunes 9.2.1, for instance).

On Aug 18, 1:02 pm, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Having a Late 2006 iMac with 3gb of RAM, this is my 2 cents on this issue. My 
 iMac runs great. I can't see how adding another gig that won't be addressed 
 could help performance much. My advice is just be happy with 3Gb of RAM... I 
 usually have multiple Adobe CS4 apps (Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Illustrator) 
 open at the same time, and never really see a performance hit. Unless your'e 
 doing extremely RAM intensive tasks, 3gb is pretty decent. If performance is 
 really that important, you could always upgrade to one of the newer aluminum 
 ones. They all support 4Gb.

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Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?

2010-08-18 Thread Ashgrove
I did before opening this thread, and the responses were equally
(in)conclusive...



On Aug 17, 2:47 pm, Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca wrote:
   On 10-08-17 12:07 PM, Ashgrove wrote: Oh, COME ON, folks. Chime in. 
 Plez. ;-)

  Anybody?

 Visithttp://discussions.apple.com/index.jspaand ask Mother Apple

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