Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Midnight rider
I find it strange I had a Apple I machine yet I never had a TAM. How
sad Yet i'm still looking for one...

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Re: iMac G5 fans on high

2010-09-21 Thread Dan

At 10:14 PM -0400 9/20/2010, Midnight rider wrote:

Rev. A iMac G5 20 1.8Ghz.

My iMac G5 kicks it's fan on HIGH whenever it starts up, but only 
before it boots on the Apple logo. once the Apple logo appears, the 
fans die down. This is only happening when the system has a question 
mark on a folder, or when it is in target disk mode, or when it is 
choosing a disk to start from.


Fans are reved high when the Power Manager doesn't know what's going 
on... it's a safety feature, so your Mac doesn't cook itself 
accidentally.  Add to that the question mark folder -- the 
inability of the bootstrap to immediately find a valid boot volume... 
You're having problems with your parameter ram (nvram).


First, try zapping the pram (boot holding down cmd-opt-p-r), then 
reset the Energy Saver and Startup Disk settings.  If either symptom 
persists, replace your PRAM/Backup battery.


And run a Veirfy Disk pass on your boot volume with Disk Utility - 
make sure it's clean.


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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote:

 It should work, although development was halted several years ago. I
 still use it in Leopard on my 1.25Ghz eMac, and have used it in the
 past in Tiger and Panther on several G3 iBooks

The reason that it was halted is that it was no longer necessary, which is what 
it says on the website. 10.5 removed that 'feature'.

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Ashgrove
*thunk* (fall to floor unconscious)

On Sep 20, 11:06 pm, Midnight rider coolmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 That was just my line of iMacs. Here's my entire list of 16:

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 21, 10:22 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 The reason that it was halted is that it was no longer necessary, which is 
 what it says on the website. 10.5 removed that 'feature'.


Bruce,

OK, so what you're saying is that 10.5 removes the firmware crippling
from any machine it can be installed to, is that right?

F

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Ashgrove wrote:

 
 Bruce,
 
 OK, so what you're saying is that 10.5 removes the firmware crippling
 from any machine it can be installed to, is that right?

Yes.

I swear I read that at the site but I cannot find it any more. 

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Melvyn Edith Halbert

Ashgrove salum...@gmail.com wrote:


There is a caveat, though: G5 iMacs and the first couple generations
of Intels suffered from display and/or graphic card problems. I've not
only read about it, but seen them firsthand.



I too have an iMac G5. I bought mine, a 20-inch iSight, 2.1 GHz model 
(MA064LL/A), at the end of January 2006 after the first Intel iMac 
was revealed and the price of the iMac G5 began to drop.  I really 
like it and hope it lasts forever!


According to MacTracker, the iMac G5 was brought out in three major 
revisions from August 2004 through October 2005, and was finally 
discontinued in March 2006.  The first version of the iMac G5 (1.8 
GHz) and probably also the second revision (2.0 Ghz) were built with 
defective electrolytic capacitors that caused logic-board failures 
within a a few years.  See 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague for more information 
on these bad capacitors.  (Neither of these models came with a 
built-in iSight camera.)


I was under the impression that the third revision (2.1 GHz iSight) 
was not built with these bad capacitors, and thus far my computer has 
shown no external evidence of logic-board problems.  However, the 
message by John Hobbs included in 
http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/browse_thread/thread/ffdfb88089231079%3EiMac%20G5%20Problems 
points out that even these 2.1 GHz iSight models have shown failures 
due to faulty capacitors.  In Mr. Hobbs' case, the problem appears to 
have been due to a sloppy job of manual replacement of capacitors at 
the factory before his iMac G5 was shipped out.  So far I have had no 
reason to open my computer to look for bulging or popped capacitors; 
I hope I continue to have better luck than Mr. Hobbs did.


Each of these three major versions of the iMac G5 seems to have been 
subject to minor revisions between the major ones.  For example, the 
iLife package bundled with my machine was iLife '05, whereas some 
people who bought nominally the same model of iMac G5 received iLife 
'06 with their computer.  But I don't know if my hardware is any 
different from what was in the machines that came with iLife '06.


Melvyn Halbert

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 21, 4:48 pm, Melvyn  Edith Halbert halbe...@esper.com wrote:
 I too have an iMac G5. I bought mine, a 20-inch iSight, 2.1 GHz model
 (MA064LL/A), at the end of January 2006 after the first Intel iMac
 was revealed and the price of the iMac G5 began to drop.  I really
 like it and hope it lasts forever!

In this, as in everything, YMMV. I know people with G3 icebooks who
treat them like dirt, and whose 'books last forever, while I have seen
three of those little machines suffer the infamous video chip issue in
my hands, despite the fact that I am extremely gently with them.

I hope you enjoy your lucky iMac for a very long time.

F

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Keyspan USB Twin Serial Adapter

2010-09-21 Thread Walter Sheluk
 I was given a Keyspan USB Twin Serial Adapter ( two RS-422 MiniDin8 
serial ports ) which would allow me to use a MOTU midi interface and 
possibly a Apple printer. However the guy could not find the  driver 
installer CD and the Mac it was installed to is long gone to Mac heaven. 
I have had to luck finding the driver thru google except to buy the unit 
which is somewhat pricey for my budget on legacy equipment.


Any one have the driver for this unit they could spare or an url as to 
where i may download the driver ?


17/9/10

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
Anyone have good advice about installing 10.5 on a 450 dual-core  
blue and silver PowerMac?
I understand this can be done, but I'd feel better with a little  
advice on how to do it.
Assuming it's a G4 (I don't think there were dual processor G3s) yep,  
it can, and easily. Use LeopardAssist at http:// 
leopardassist.sourceforge.net/supported.html, and pop in the DVD.  
Piece of cake. (Or pie, if that's your thing) :-)


Cheers,
Matt Rhinesmith

Sent from my iBook G3

Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell
366 MHz PPC 750CX CPU
576 MB RAM 15 GB HDD
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Tina K.
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:04:42 -0400, Midnight rider wrote:
 If you are going to put leopard on a 450Mhz dual G4, go
 for it, it'll run like a 900Mhz G4.

That's not entirely true. For apps that are able to utilize dual 
processors it may seem so, but apps that can only utilize one CPU at a 
time may seem sluggish.

Tina

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Elliott Price
I installed 10.5 on a 550Mhz G4 Powerbook with 768Mb of RAM. It runs OK, but 
there are some hang-ups, and you can't open a lot of apps at the same time. 
My advice:
1. Max out the RAM.
2. Get a better graphics card.
3. Optimize 10.5 by turning of the glass dock, and disabling Dashboard. If you 
do some research I think there are some other features you can turn off that 
will help performance.


-Elliott




On Sep 19, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Dave wrote:

 Anyone have good advice about installing 10.5 on a 450 dual-core blue and 
 silver PowerMac?
 I understand this can be done, but I'd feel better with a little advice on 
 how to do it.

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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Walter Sheluk
 I always thought that Apple installers run a check to ascertain if the 
OS software can be installed to the selected hard drive ?


Just now the Leopard  is being installed to a FireWired drive with a 
QS G4 ( 933MHz) hosting the drive. No complaints from the installer.


When you say slow and performance in the same breath,  i have an 8500 
with a Sonnet G4 card running the Tiger via XPOSTfacto and it  takes a 
year of Sundays to load web pages. Albeit, midi/audio applications run 
with no problems ( if you keep the audio plugs down to a just a few ). 
Incidentally,this was just an adventure for me to learn how to upgrade 
hardware and how to XPOST a Mac not built to run OS X.





On 10-09-19 9:01 AM, skyvalley4jesus wrote:

I used to own a G4 1ghz iMac with 1gb of ram.  It had Tiger 10.4
installed, which ran great.  I installed Leopard 10.5 and saw a big
drop in performance.  My experience leads me to believe that  Leopard
is for G5 or newer.

Patrick



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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-19 10:58 AM, Bill Chapman wrote:
I have a Quicksilver G4 800MHz with 1Gb RAM... it can only support 
1.5Gb ram...
I have the QS G4 933 MHz with 1.5Gb RAM with two internal hard drives 
with the Tiger and Leopard getting along nicely.


It is not a speed demon as compared to ??? well compared to my iMac 
3.06GHz...


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Re: Leopard?

2010-09-21 Thread Matt Rhinesmith
Don't! You are far better off with OS 10.4.11. Simply put Leopard  
wasn't built for a G4 processor running less than 800MHz. I have a  
G4 Dual 867 and felt the performance was too slow.



I'm hearing this more and more lately, and it's getting me really  
ticked. LEOPARD IS FASTER THAN TIGER. It includes many enhancements  
in speed, and the kernel is a much newer, faster version. Add to that  
that you get support for all the new APIs and hardware, and I'm dying  
to upgrade my  PMG4, a 733 MHz Digital Audio! I hear the same thing  
about Tiger on a 366 MHz G3. It's too slow! I have Tiger on this  
Clamshell, and it is amazing. Of course I can't run, say, GarageBand,  
but I wouldn't be able to in OS 9 or Jaguar, Panther, etc. either!  
Also, I don't think he asked Should I Upgrade?, but he asked How  
Can I Upgrade? We're here to help people with what they're trying to  
do, not discourage using newer OSes.


Cheers,
Matt Rhinesmith

Sent from my iBook G3

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366 MHz PPC 750CX CPU
576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Steven
I got a 20 inch white Intel iMac as my high school graduation gift in 2007, and 
it is a great computer. It runs Final Cut Express, Photoshop, and Flash 
extremely well, even with the low 1gb of ram that it currently has. If you can 
afford one, it is a great computer, and although I don't use any of the current 
heavy multimedia programs (Final Cut Pro, CS5, etc), it does run CS3 and other 
recent programs perfectly, so I imagine it can handle the most up to date 
versions. The Intel iMacs are great, powerful computers (but look for a Core 2 
Duo, since I have heard they are better than the Core Duo in the very first 
model), and Columbia College Chicago, where I go to college, still uses many of 
these white Intel iMacs as audio/video workhorses in their Film and Video 
department (one of the nation's best). Since they are three years old and many 
people prefer the newer aluminum styling (personally I prefer the white 
plastic), you should be able to find a pretty good deal somewhere.

I also use the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid HDTV tuner, which plays and records local 
HDTV along with analog composite/S video and cable (I believe the most recent 
version does HD cable too), and I have used it to copy some of my LaserDiscs to 
iTunes format. The analog video input doesn't look as good as it does on an 
analog TV, but it is still better than VHS quality, so that shouldn't be a 
problem for you. I have also heard good things about the TubeStick, but I 
haven't used that one.

Hope that helps,
Steven


On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:04 AM, vsedri...@columbus.rr.com 
vsedri...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

 I've been running a PowerMac MDD for almost 7 yrs now, and feel it is time to 
 move up to something a little newer. I can't afford an iMac right out of the 
 store so can anyone recommend a used model? I do some graphic design 
 (photoshop, inDesign) and want to try transferring some vhs tapes to dvd. I'm 
 not very familiar with these and have always had towers that I could 
 customize.
 
 Linda in Ohio
 
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Re: internal mic buzz sound in issues, Intel iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Walter Sheluk

 On 10-09-20 10:32 AM, Beverly Woods wrote:
I have here a 20 2 GHz Intel iMac in which the internal mic used to 
work, but now the only sound that comes in is a steady buzzing noise 
through the internal mic. I tried to plug in a headset mic either 
directly or through a USB iMic but no sound at all gets in through 
that. Anyone know what would cause this?
Not sure what would cause that problem. However try this:   launch Audio 
MIDI Setup ( Applications/Utilities/AudioMIDISetup) then in the Audio 
Devices window select Built-in Microphone and confirm that the Source 
is the Internal microphone, Format 44100.Hz 2ch-16bit and that the input 
sound for 1 and 2 are not muted.





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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Tina K.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:13:46 -0400, Bill Chapman wrote:
  Would that apply to a tower G5 as well?

No.

Tina

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Re: internal mic buzz sound in issues, Intel iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Tom Venney
Sounds like you might have a bad ground some where. Also have you  
checked your sound Preferences to make sure that the internal mic is  
selected ?

On Sep 20, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Beverly Woods wrote:

I have here a 20 2 GHz Intel iMac in which the internal mic used to  
work, but now the only sound that comes in is a steady buzzing noise  
through the internal mic. I tried to plug in a headset mic either  
directly or through a USB iMic but no sound at all gets in through  
that. Anyone know what would cause this?


thanks,

Beverly

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Bill Chapman

 I didn't write that... I said I have 12

On 21/09/10 11:44 AM, Elliott Price wrote:

16? 28? Sorry to say, but I have about 36... Not all of them are 
super-collectible, but if we're just talking quantity I think I have you guys 
beat. :)


-Elliott




On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Bill Chapman wrote:


That was just my line of iMacs. Here's my entire list of 16:

And John Carmonne, I know you have 28, please don't rub it into my face about 
your collection


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Re: iMac G5 fans on high

2010-09-21 Thread Tina K.
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:14:02 -0400, Midnight rider wrote:
 This is only been a recent problem, and I need help with this. My 
 iMac G5 kicks it's fan on HIGH whenever it starts up, but only before 
 it boots on the Apple logo. once the Apple logo appears, the fans die 
 down. This is only happening when the system has a question mark on a 
 folder, or when it is in target disk mode, or when it is choosing a 
 disk to start from.
 
 Any ideas? It doesn't have any other problems, just this one. It's a 
 Rev. A iMac G5 20 1.8Ghz.

That's a safety feature to insure the CPU doesn't overheat when the OS 
isn't able to manage the temperature, ie before booting the OS, kernel 
panic, etc… The cure is to fix whatever is causing the flashing 
question mark, perhaps by reselecting the startup disk in the startup 
disk preference pane, though I don't know why it would do it in target 
disk mode.

Tina

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Clark Martin

On Sep 21, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Elliott Price wrote:

 16? 28? Sorry to say, but I have about 36... Not all of them are 
 super-collectible, but if we're just talking quantity I think I have you guys 
 beat. :)
 
 

I know I can be beat but my collection weighs in at 54.  And that's not 
including two Newtons

Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting

I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway

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Re: Keyspan USB Twin Serial Adapter

2010-09-21 Thread Dennis B. Swaney

On 17/09/10 07:10PDT, Walter Sheluk wrote:

I was given a Keyspan USB Twin Serial Adapter ( two RS-422 MiniDin8
serial ports ) which would allow me to use a MOTU midi interface and
possibly a Apple printer. However the guy could not find the driver
installer CD and the Mac it was installed to is long gone to Mac heaven.
I have had to luck finding the driver thru google except to buy the unit
which is somewhat pricey for my budget on legacy equipment.

Any one have the driver for this unit they could spare or an url as to
where i may download the driver ?

17/9/10



Get the driver and manual here:

http://www.tripplite.com/en/products/model.cfm?txtModelID=3915


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Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is 
... oh, never mind.


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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Midnight rider
54? I might as well turn my house into a giant iMac G4!

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Ashgrove
On Sep 21, 9:02 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:
 I know I can be beat but my collection weighs in at 54.  And that's not 
 including two Newtons

And I thought I was in bad shape and needed to go on rehab... I am a
mere Mac hoarder wannabe. I salute you guys.

F

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Re: considering a used iMac

2010-09-21 Thread Bill Chapman

 Good idea for another reality show.
You guys should post those numbers on PCWorld... and watch the 
Mac-bashers have a field day. Any topic with the word 'Apple' in it 
draws PC fanboiz and Fandroids like bees to honey.


On 21/09/10 10:05 PM, Ashgrove wrote:

On Sep 21, 9:02 pm, Clark Martincm...@sonic.net  wrote:

I know I can be beat but my collection weighs in at 54.  And that's not 
including two Newtons

And I thought I was in bad shape and needed to go on rehab... I am a
mere Mac hoarder wannabe. I salute you guys.

F



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