Re: Xcode
On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Cocoa® Programming for Mac® OS X, Third Edition By: Aaron Hillegass do you recommend this book also for non-programmers (no experience in Application programming)? Or is this book more for people who knows programming, but are new to the Apple world? Frankly, I don't know, the people who recommended it to me were all programmers,speaking to programmers. FWIW, I have the second edition of Hillegrass. If you don't know any programming (specifically C), then you will find this book rather hard because it assumes some prior knowledge of C and the language constructs. If you want to go from a complete standstill, there are many, many C tutorials on the web, and a raft of books on the subject (I have 'Practical C++ Programming' published by O'Reilly, which takes you from a standing start). If you've never programmed before, be prepared for a steep (but exciting) learning curve. Tim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-20 10:45 AM, Tina K. wrote: Disk Utility, which probably use the same core and will give the same result. Some disc burning utilities will mound disc images. You can try Burn, Liquid CD, Toast… Thanks Tina, Well Disk Utility claims that file is not recognized or something like that so i will try toast 10 and see what happens. Walter -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
You are lucky if it won't mount !! My downloaded updater .img mounted and installed properly updated my system to 10.6.5... And then I got a grey screen with a flashing ? when I restarted and booting the iMac from the Drive Genius DVD, the original iMac system disk, and Disk Utilities on the Snow Leopard install disks all reported that my drive had zero bytes on it. 2007 2.8 GHz Extreme just two months out of AppleCare so it cost me to get the drive pulled replaced. M On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Dennis B. Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: On 13/11/10 09:08PST, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-11-13 8:20 AM, Al Poulin wrote: Found nothing in Apple's Support pages, but there is mention of using Safe Mode here: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20022511-263.html?tag=mncol;title Al Poulin Thanks for the confirmation that there is something wrong with the dot dmg file because i was working up the courage to run an archival update of SnowLeopard. Is there any other utility application that will mount a dot dmg file ? Have you tried downloading it again? Usually if it won't mount it is due to file corruption or damage. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Warmest regards, Michael Shaw MaUsE President, www.mause.ca Editor, MaUsE DoubleClick ducati...@gmail.com 237 Huntingwood Drive Oshawa, ON L1J 7C6 Canada 905-576-2097 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
Michael Shaw wrote: 2007 2.8 GHz Extreme just two months out of AppleCare so it cost me to get the drive pulled replaced. My problems are minor compared to that problem. It appears to me that Apple have created a monster update because there have been so many reported problems. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
At 12:32 PM -0700 11/20/2010, Walter Sheluk wrote: It appears to me that Apple have created a monster update because there have been so many reported problems. The updates are large because Mac OS X includes quite a few 3rd party items, many open source -- eg: WebKit (Safari's underbelly), Apache (web sharing), CUPS (printing), Gutenprint (the bazillion print drivers). Those items are usually released as complete new blobs (installations), not tiny incremental patches. Since the open source community is mostly volunteers from the edu world, the bigger releases tend to occur in late summer or early fall before school, college, etc, grabs their time... At 11:06 AM -0700 11/20/2010, Walter Sheluk wrote: Well Disk Utility claims that file is not recognized or something like that so i will try toast 10 and see what happens. Walter, I'm sorry - that's just not smart. If the dmg doesn't mount correctly, then it is CORRUPTED. You may be able to futz around with it, and ultimately get it to work ... but then what It's CORRUPTED. If it updates your system, you will have A CORRUPTED SYSTEM. As Bruce said: TRASH IT, AND GET ANOTHER COPY. IT'S OK... APPLE WILL MAKE MORE... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 8:10 AM, Dan wrote: Walter, I'm sorry - that's just not smart. If the dmg doesn't mount correctly, then it is CORRUPTED. You may be able to futz around with it, and ultimately get it to work ... but then what It's CORRUPTED. If it updates your system, you will have A CORRUPTED SYSTEM. You are right. I learned that after burning the file was still corrupt. I wish those apple guys would stop playing with their iPads and iPhones and fix not only the combo download but also the update. MyLivingDesktop was behaving oddly and i confirmed with the programmer for MLD that the latest update did indeed break something and that apple tech is working on an update. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
At 8:16 AM -0700 11/24/2010, Walter Sheluk wrote: I learned that after burning the file was still corrupt. I wish those apple guys would stop playing with their iPads and iPhones and fix not only the combo download but also the update. I do not believe that any of the Apple mirrors are currently offering corrupted updates. The ones I've downloaded this morning are all intact, and show their original dates. IOW, it is your download that was faulty. Redo. Or better - just use Software Update to get and apply it. MyLivingDesktop was behaving oddly and i confirmed with the programmer for MLD that the latest update did indeed break something and that apple tech is working on an update. Ok. So there's a bug in either the OS or MLD that needs to be addressed. That's nothing to do with a corrupted download. Moving desktop backgrounds? Really? I donno, I think that would make me want to stick a fork thru my skull, or at least go shrieking into the night... Wasn't there a gizmo that animated all the icons on your desktop, back in the OS 8/9 days? I seem to remember playing with it; having it drag my machine to its knees. Don't mind me. I still miss Forker. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On Nov 20, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Michael Shaw wrote: You are lucky if it won't mount !! My downloaded updater .img mounted and installed properly updated my system to 10.6.5... And then I got a grey screen with a flashing ? when I restarted and booting the iMac from the Drive Genius DVD, the original iMac system disk, and Disk Utilities on the Snow Leopard install disks all reported that my drive had zero bytes on it. 2007 2.8 GHz Extreme just two months out of AppleCare so it cost me to get the drive pulled replaced. That this happened during the 10.6.5 update is largely coincidental. A software update CAN NOT KILL A HARD DRIVE. The drive was ready to go, and probably the sustained disk activity of the update put it over the edge. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 8:53 AM, Dan wrote: just use Software Update to get and apply it. and that is what corrupted my system -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 9:28 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: A software update CAN NOT KILL A HARD DRIVE. Not so sure about that because my brand new external firewire harddrive froze and locked up after the latest apple software update via Software update...? i am a fanatic about doing the repair permisions, running DiskWarrior, TechToolPro and even SuperDupering my drives ( which i am glad i superdupered it before the update ). -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
walter, if the hard drive locked up as you say, then it can be only one of two things, software, so a temporary issue, or a coincidental hardware failure. On 24 November 2010 16:42, Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca wrote: Not so sure about that because my brand new external firewire harddrive froze and locked up after the latest apple software update via Software update...? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On Nov 24, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-11-24 9:28 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: A software update CAN NOT KILL A HARD DRIVE. Not so sure about that because my brand new external firewire harddrive froze and locked up after the latest apple software update via Software update...? headdesk headdesk Yes. I am absolutely positive of this. No modern hard drive could ever be damaged by a system software update. Remotely, you could have a damaged disk directory, but that's recoverable simply be either repairing the disk directory or reformmating the disk. If Software Update messed up your computer and subsequent downloads of the standalone combo updater were corrupted, you have local network problems, such as a damaged router or ethernet interface, or some sort of problems with your isp. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
At 9:42 AM -0700 11/24/2010, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-11-24 9:28 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: A software update CAN NOT KILL A HARD DRIVE. Not so sure about that No, Bruce is correct. because my brand new external firewire harddrive froze and locked up after the latest apple software update via Software update...? Such devices should be *disconnected* when installing Apple updates. Having such connected can sometimes cause Apple's installer to hang for a long time, while it's looking around for components. They can also cause difficulties if the Mac's firmware is being updated because that process often includes zapping the nvram -- which can then make the Mac spend an inordinate amount of time sniffing those peripherals during the reboot. See Bruce's reply *10. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: Such devices should be *disconnected* when installing Apple updates. This external firewired hard drive had the OS 10.6 prior to the latest update and was my startup drive . Since i used the Software update... and how do i disconnect to install unless i misunderstood your advice which for me is more then often. I think it's the old old story when you complain to a software developer or about a software it's never their software it's always some thinkg else. However i managed to revive this hard drive and will wait for a correction from Apple of their 10.6.5. There are other's reporting problems since the update such as eject button not working. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: HOW *exactly* is your system corrupted? The ONLY thing you've said so far is that you're having difficulties with ONE 3rd party product. AND that that product's developer has said there is a BUG to be delt with. That is NOT a system corruption. At best it is a complaint about engine of your car because the windshield wiper is flopping around. The solution is, as per the developer, to disable that 3rd party product until he releases a fix! Download of combo 10.6.5 will not mount and reported as file is corrupted whereas every other dot dmg file i have downloaded even the latest iTunes mounts. So what's up with that ? The programmer of MyLivingDesktop said that Apple is aware and is working on a fix of 10.6.5. I just wonder if some of the problems i have read about are also related to the huge array of apple intell's on the market. For me it's not the end of the world if i can't get the combo to mount but there's no doubt in my mind the update i did thru the Software update... services did something to my system. Call it a bug or call it a corruption something went wrong in my update in my iMac. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
Title: Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount At 1:24 PM -0700 11/24/2010, Walter Sheluk wrote: On 10-11-24 12:43 PM, Dan wrote: HOW *exactly* is your system corrupted? The ONLY thing you've said so far is that you're having difficulties with ONE 3rd party product. AND that that product's developer has said there is a BUG to be delt with. That is NOT a system corruption. At best it is a complaint about engine of your car because the windshield wiper is flopping around. The solution is, as per the developer, to disable that 3rd party product until he releases a fix! Download of combo 10.6.5 will not mount and reported as file is corrupted whereas every other dot dmg file i have downloaded even the latest iTunes mounts. So what's up with that ? The downloaded file was corrupted. Probably a telecom issue. Trash the DMG file you have and re-download it. Get it from APPLE not via some 3rd party. The programmer of MyLivingDesktop said that Apple is aware and is working on a fix of 10.6.5. A bug in either the OS or MLD. NOT a corruption. Which begs the question... Apple makes seeds/alpha/beta test builds of the OS available to ALL of the software developers. Why wasn't this issue delt with *before* the release? Sounds like the developer dropped the ball, to me. I just wonder if some of the problems i have read about are also related to the huge array of apple intell's on the market. What problems? Be specific. Out of the millions of Mac users, there are maybe a handful of loud people having problems... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
At 4:25 PM -0500 11/24/2010, Dan wrote: Download of combo 10.6.5 will not mount and reported as file is corrupted whereas every other dot dmg file i have downloaded even the latest iTunes mounts. So what's up with that ? The downloaded file was corrupted. Probably a telecom issue. Trash the DMG file you have and re-download it. Get it from APPLE not via some 3rd party. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1324 - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
At 4:28 PM -0500 11/24/2010, Dan wrote: At 4:25 PM -0500 11/24/2010, Dan wrote: Download of combo 10.6.5 will not mount and reported as file is corrupted whereas every other dot dmg file i have downloaded even the latest iTunes mounts. So what's up with that ? The downloaded file was corrupted. Probably a telecom issue. Trash the DMG file you have and re-download it. Get it from APPLE not via some 3rd party. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1324 Note please that this combo updater is 970.2 MB in size. Once you have downloaded it, do a get-info and check the size... It should be *exactly* 1,024,680,576 bytes. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On 10-11-24 2:25 PM, Dan wrote: Out of the millions of Mac users, there are maybe a handful of loud people having problems... I don't think it's being loud to mention a problem. My wife installed the update but she only uses her computer to float around the internet, email her friends and use Microsoft Mac Word and play a few games. Her application folder has what Apple installer installed plus her purchases of Microsoft's Mac Word and some games. As long as she can start it up, run those services and then shut down she is happy. She does not even do repair permissions or directory. I'm sure there are many other similar users and of course they make very limited use of their computers or demands on the cpu and naturally the update is fine on their machines and if not they would simply re-install. I depend on all my macs in my audio/video recording business and if they go wonkey then i have problems completing projects. . Reinstalling is a major pain in the studio here. Discussing the update problems affecting my high end Audio/video applications would have a limited audience at this forum. Sorry if my question seems trivial or loud but were else can one ask about Mac problems if not at a forum such as this. This forum is of great help to me as it gives me assurance that i am not the only person with an updating problem. It has also taught me many things i was not aware of. My expertise is not with computers. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
Ahh, it's gotten a bit like mac rumours in here today! I think you asked a fair question Walter, because you wanted an answer. End of really Sent from my iPhone On 24 Nov 2010, at 22:01, Walter Sheluk wshe...@shaw.ca wrote: Sorry if my question seems trivial or loud -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
