Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
[Malcolm's original comment about the transition from OS 9 to OS X being a breeze for all users omitted in his reply] Not what I said. What's that supposed to mean? That every posted opinion is promptly contradicted. If you're not inclined to say I stand corrected I stand contradicted. you *do* have the option of just not replying. Or of unsubscribing. It's been a slice. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Oh, was it? Because that's not how I remember it. I knew someone would say that. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Well, it will probably leave out in the cold some early Intel Macs, Please tell us more before we go out and buy one of them. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X But see, that switch was mostly painless for users. This reaps them mucho good will from many people (such as me). In fact, there were 3 enormous changes over the years: 1. 68xxx to PowerPC 2. OSArabic numeral to OSRoman numeral 3. PowerPC to Intel ALL of these were achieved with hardly a bump to non-tech users. Amazing! Compare and contrast this with non-tech Windows users who start out screwed and get screwed over again every time ANYTHING happens. For this I had boundless respect for Apple. And just before Enormous Change 3, I bought my iMac. EC3 did not really bump me. And I was thrown under the bus with such alacrity and finality that it made my head spin. :P But they still haven't squandered all my good will. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
you have a 17 iMac G4 800? THose are nice machines Yup, I love mine! Not the thing to watch Flash video on though. :P I just don't go to YouTube with that machine. Instead, I use my PC desktop, PC notebook or iPod Touch. When my 80GB drive was getting full, I replaced it with a 500GB that I installed myself. Had no idea what I'd find on the inside but figured, How hard could it be? Used Carbon Copy Cloner to move everything from the 80 to the 300 (using an Ultra USB/FW external enclosure) and there was not issue one. :) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
Have you tried HTML5 YouTube? Yes, from info given here. Two results: 1) It's better. But it's a better sequence of still pictures. :( 2) You only get HTML5 *IF* the video doesn't have an ad on it and there are only a small number of those. So, effectively, it's not better enough to make it usable. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iPhoto
Looks like iLife '06 is the one for you. If only they sold it. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iPhoto
Joe and Jack, thanks for the tips. But really, my *best* course of action would be to re-install Panther and *SELL* my copy of Leopard! -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iPhoto
I'd disagree entirely. I know. But in the scenario I described I'd have everything I started with AND not be out the $100. Not to say that there weren't issues WRT using Panther, but it's all moot on a PPC anyway really. The bus it went under is already over the horizon. iPhoto has also been steadily improved over the years All I ever did with it was rename all the photos, which doesn't rename them. No longer having it, I don't put photos on it any more. shrug I still have my iPhoto library; I just don't have a reason to have it any more. Not _my_ fault. Upgrading iPhoto, and sticking with leopard will get you a much better system. Excepting the other upgraded apps that want more hardware than I have. In which case, I'd still have less software than I started with and be out _more than_ $100. Actually, my most likely course of action will be to ignore the iMac entirely and score the cheapest used Intel Mini I can find. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iPhoto
OS X doesn't come with any iLife apps. If you have the original disks, the one that says Application Install should restore them. So, even though iPhoto on my machine (which was supplied with Panther) says it doesn't run on Leopard, you're saying that I can successfully re-install iPhoto from my original disks? (The message is that this version of iPhoto can't run with this version of OSX.) That would be good, because I'd been thinking it totally unreasonable that iPhoto should be taken back because I'd upgraded the OS. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac and new EcoDisk
Or my long-misplaced Billy and the Boingers 45rpm insert from the Billy and the Boingers Bootleg Bloom County collection... Or my long-misplaced Cowboy Neal rap at the Acid Test that was included with the first edition of Hank Harrison's Grateful Dead book. And SO many others -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac and new EcoDisk
The only major label album I have in a color other than black is Elvis' Blue Album. The only one I have is Dave Mason's first album, which was quasi-marble vinyl. Hard to see the needle against it. Looks like the tone arm is floating over a piece of marble. Way cool. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I'd rather have the ability to make lossless backups of my photos They likely come out of the camera lossy (jpg). -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
Store them as PNG (.png). Lossless Your camera will do that? What's the brand? -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Wow! Did that ever remind me of Amiga screens! Aside: One of the other editors at Transactor for the Amiga had a NeXT and said he liked it as much as he liked his Amiga. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel macbook ubuntu and windows issues.
But I do think they were too quick to pull the plug on supporting PPC, Tiger, and so forth. Exactly right! I concur. On the Windows side developers are still supporting XP which is about nine years old And what I'm using now. :/ -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
That would have been the much later Tandy line of PC-compatibles. Windows never ran on the CoCo. You are correct, sir! By the time Bill was touting the wonders of the Tandy computer, Tandy no longer made computers, they merely assembled them from parts. They velcro'd 4 bits together into a nibble and epoxied them together in pairs. If you tell that to kids today, they won't believe you! :D -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
(a Quadra 610) had a clock speed of 25MHz and he asked me if I was sure about that Tell him you know someone whose first computer had 1K of RAM. Yes! One *K*. (In some locales Timex) Sinclair ZX81. My second computer had 3.5K of RAM and featured a whopping 22 characters across the screen. Commodore VIC-20. But the Volkscomputer, the Commodore 64 had a full 64K of RAM and a processor (6502) that smoked at 1MHz. I ran a 99K program on that 64K computer. when I first went online, in 1997 It was 1983 for me. In '83, Commodore users could get a 300 bps modem for only $100. Most of the people on Q-Link (forerunner of AOL) were C64 users. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
One guy wants ... Couple weeks ago, I sold a video interface for the C64 for $100. Don't even know if it worked. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
You can make money selling used rare or hard to find computer equipment. Yup, it's true! Maybe enough to sustain a side business, but I doubt one that would provide a primary income. Hey! My *job* doesn't provide a primary income. :P -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
But if I had to choose I'd take either! It may be worth noting that my best jobs (editing computer magazines) also provided my best pay (way less than other editors). But when the work and the pay weren't best, they were both crap. Crazy world, ain't it! -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
My first computer had 256 bytes. And it was all hand wirewrapped, by me. Ah, yes, well you *built* that one. And not the way they get built today. The doubting Thomas referred to above probably would never consider building one the way they're built today, let alone to build one from components. The items I referred to were all systems that you bought assembled (tho the Sinclair could be had as a kit) at a computer store. Still enough to fry the dendrites of the doubting Thomas. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac refurb as an independent business opportunity?
*My* first comptuer was a Tandy Color Computer 3 Back in the days when there was Byte Magazine! On a back cover of Byte was a photo of Bill Gates sitting at a Radio Shack computer. His quote was: When we really want to impress someone with Windows, we show it to them on the Tandy. :D -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
I've been running OpenOffice 3.0.1 I've been running NeoOffice to get it more Mac-like. My only complaint is that it clones the world's worst software. :P -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
Excel is one of the most useful programs I use. I never really had to use it at work, but I _did_ have to know about it and knew that it was very capable. Used gulp VisiCalc and Lotus at work mostly. Although I wrote a manual for a spreadsheet program (Professional Calc, IIRC, on the Amiga), I haven't really used one in years. thinking back I have a membership list that's in a spreadsheet but I don't remember what's installed on the machine! looks to see Oh, it's Excel! That's funny. :) OO only *LOOKS* like it. It misses the point many times. I did not know that. What a surprise! connect to the Exchange server About which I know less than nothing. M$ has enabled me to use my Mac in my workplace. The best thing they've ever done, in my view! :D -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
Open Office 3 and higher is Mac-Native, and runs faster than neoOffice. Good to know! Thanks, Bruce. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
Well then they will loose many users, won't they? Not a matter of the slightest concern to them, I assure you. When the Internet wasn't public and Compuserve was the biggest service at 7 million, all of us sysops told them, If you do these things, subscribers will leave in droves. They did them. EVERYBODY left. How many people do you know on Compuserve today? I stopped being able to connect to it while still a sysop! But they got exactly what they were looking for, I'm sure. they are effectively closing the window to the Internet to low end users Nothing of the sort! I have looked without success for an older version of Safari for my 12“ , 800 Mhz iBook and cannot find it. I did the same for my iMac. The only way I got it was by getting Leopard onto my iMac (which doesn't meet the stated requirements for Leopard). who says there is freedom of information? Not a blessed soul. is this a concerted strategy from business? Of course! -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Google dropping support for older browsers in 2010
But we already knew long ago that Google was evil. All I use it for is these groups, and I don't use a browser for them. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: OT: Apple in Daily Comics
Regrettably, Prickly City is not. It's here: http://comics.com/prickly_city/ -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Fixing the wonky install
Listing the users, I got: drwxrwxrwt9 root wheel 306 Jan 11 22:14 Shared drwxr-xr-x 89 marianne staff 3026 Nov 19 16:00 macbookuser drwxr-xr-x 69 marianne marianne 2346 Jan 18 15:37 mariannegirard I remember that the macbookuser one was her old login. So I figured I needed to use the 3rd line above for my sources. That got me: chown: marianne: Invalid argument When I then tried it again using staff instead of marianne for the group, I got the same results. :( What went wrong? _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9706116 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: OS X Toast issue
Final Vinyl is a free download from GriffinTechnology.com. Thanks for the tip! Just what I was looking for. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Installing without a DVD drive
The machine without the DVD drive (it doesn't read consistently) is actually a MacBook, but the helper machine is the iMac under my .sig and the principles will be the same regardless of model. The MacBook owner deleted a bunch of stuff based on its dates and times and thereafter booted to a flashing folder with a ?. When I got it from her and turned it on, the optical drive made a terrible screechy noise. I took a loose scrap of plastic out of its innards and the next time I booted, no ugly noise. Good! Thinking an OS reinstall was called for, I put in the Install disc and away we went. During the checking your disc phase (around 13%), something happened and a can't check your disc error appeared. I clicked Ignore and continue and it began to install but failed along the way. Now when it tries to start, it begins to boot but then panics and says to restart. So I started my iMac in Firewire mode with the install disc in the SuperDrive, started the MacBook holding down Option, and found that I was offered the option of the fratzed internal HD or the HD on my iMac. I'd hoped that the iMac's SuperDrive would be included in the choices but no such luck. (I guess it isn't booted enough to know that my Prefs says to share the drive.) So I boot from my iMac HD. No problem. Things are fine - wonderful! - EXCEPT no sign of my iMac's optical drive. GRRR! So I reboot the iMac normally. I make .dmg's of the 2 Install discs, figuring I'll at least be able to access those on my HD. Back to Firewire boot, start the MacBook via my iMac HD, navigate to the .dmg's, run the Installer, and ... oh, yeah ... it makes me restart the MacBook. This, of course, is worthless. DOH! So now I'm looking at the instructions at: http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html even though I don't have a suitable USB drive! Can anyone tell me a better option? How do you install the OS without a DVD drive? Will I have to go into the Apple Store and have them fix it? I _do_ have a Firewire-equipped enclosure into which I could put a HD. Thanks for reading and thanks for any assistance offered. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Installing without a DVD drive
the correct solution is to fix the Macbook; sooner or later she'll need a working optical drive. Yeah, I told her that. better would be one of these Oh! I _have_ one of those! And I have now made 2 partitions on a HD and copied the 2 install disks there, installed, and all is well. Thanks SO much, Bruce! -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
NOT Re: Installing without a DVD drive
A little off-topic No, a lot. And really, really in need of a different subject line. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Thanks for the copy solution
Thanks to Bruce Johnson for the very informative and useful message on working with PC files from the Mac. Late as I am in posting my thanks (the message went up Oct. 14), it'll still be some time before I follow up on those things. (Sometimes it's just crazy busy.) But follow up I will and thanks again for those data. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re:
You can find all sorts of Mac system software at: http://www.apple.com/mac/ ??? Really? Where? By all sorts do you mean Snow Leopard OS X Server? -- Malcolm 800MHz G4 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Microsoft Sync a hog --- Disable?
after years of resisting I got a copy of Microsoft Office for Mac Now you know why you resisted all those years. :P Revert to Plan A. :/ And I second the suggestion to use Open Office. (Mind you, I question the wisdom of cloning crappy software.) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Need a better copy solution
Thanks, Elliott. Macs will read PC formatted HD's. I haven't tried that since installing Leopard. It seems to me that when I tried to connect it to Firewire under Panther, it said, [something like] Not ready. Want to initialize this drive? I didn't try to connect it to the Mac USB cuz it's USB 1.1. permissions I have ignored permissions all of my computing life and have never had any issue WRT them. shrug I'm not quite sure exactly what a .pub file is I think it's probably a Corel Ventura Publisher file. (I have a PC *ONLY* so I can run CVP. No other reason.) Perhaps I should state that these are the files from my Win98SE machine, which is not operating currently. They're on a 300GB HD that Win98 can't really use (long story), but I _do_ want its files. I can put them on the Mac (which has gobs of space) and then reformat the 300GB to replace the 80GB in my XP PC. At which point, I'll probably put the Win98SE files on the 80GB and put it back in the Win98 PC. Big job, but simple as can be. :) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Need a better copy solution
I'm copying about 115,000 files. The source is a external USB HD on my PC. The destination is a folder on the Mac. Twice now, I've gotten the message: The Finder cannot complete the operation because some data in CP20010618.pub cannot be read or written. Error code -36. (Aside: Where do I find the details of error numbers?) What I did the first time was throw all the successfully copied files to the Trash, SCANDISK ( fix) the PC's external HD, and try the operation again, which just got me the same abend msg. See, I Trashed the files so that I could avoid duplicate copies or 115,000 Overwrite? dialogs. So what I need is a better way to copy. One that will continue and perhaps make a list of failed files. Or that will recognize previously copied files as successful components of _this_ operation. TIA for helpful suggestions. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
I think there is a lot of room for innovation in the space between this drive for cost-cutting and the re-architecture response the industry is producing. No doubt. I just don't find that interesting. Expectable, predictable, virtually certain. zzz I also think you and I would make for a good G4 talk show :D Line up a sponsor and count me in! ;) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
I have an iMac G4 1.25 17 FP with 1 gig of ram. I'm running Tiger 10.4.11 now. When I thought of upgrading to Leopard, I read that it likes to see at least 2 gigs of ram to run smoothly. Does anyone have any experience with running Leopard with this configuration? Yeah! Mine's slower than yours but it's faster than mine was when it ran Panther! And I should add that that is with 1 GB. (I'll amend my sig.) Install it and be happy. That said, it will probably stop your iPhoto from working. I have read on everymac that it's possible to load the two chip spaces with 1 gig chips but Apple doesn't recommend it. For thems thats interested, that page is here: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/imac-g4-flat-panel-faq/imac-g4-how-to-upgrade-memory-ram.html Sad to say, does not apply to _my_ iMac. :( -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard (1GB RAM, 500GB HD) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
So the user feels ripped off I'm starting to think that none of you were around when the expression was coined. Ripped off means: They took your money and gave you NOTHING (or something that appeared to be something valuable but which turned out to be worthless). We're going into your pockets to give you something you neither want nor need is extortion. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Getting Mail to work with two machines
I do not know whether it is a commercial product or share/free ware. It's commercial. $40, with volume discounts. http://www.econtechnologies.com/site/Pages/ChronoSync/chrono_overview.html -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Easy upgrade to Leopard on 800MHz G4 iMac
Perhaps you could get friend or member of your local Mac User Group to bring over a FireWire capable 'Book? ??? Why would I bother? What's the advantage over just putting the disk in my Superdrive? I don't get it. in the Open Firmware procedure, the last step after installing was to change the bogus 900 MHz setting back to 800 MHz Happens automagically on reboot. -- Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Easy upgrade to Leopard on 800MHz G4 iMac
Why didn't you just use FireWire Target Disk mode to do the install? I only have the one Mac. Besides, it would _still_ be executing on my machine and seeing 800MHz, right? Sorry for the double post Wouldn't be so bad except I get everything twice! I've figured out why but haven't figured a solution yet. The why is I've managed to sub with 2 email addresses. The solution would be an unsub link in the mails but no such luck. The address I want to unsub is unknown to Google so no joy there. :P (OK! Found it at LEM.) -- Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mouse and memory
My mac is .8 GHz Power PC G% 512 MB RAM I'm guessing you mean an 800 Mhz G4 Actually, the % sign is on the 5 key. ;) -- Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firewire Issues, imac 500 G3.
any ideas? Independent of the Firewire issue, just put a bigger internal drive in! Note well whatever the drive size limitation is. -- Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mouse and memory
never released anything slower than a 1.6Ghz G5 Didn't know. Good call, Bruce. DID offer 800MHz G4's Yeah, that's what I have. :) -- Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Easy upgrade to Leopard on 800MHz G4 iMac
I had some trepidation about attempting to install Leopard (10.5.6) on my Panther-running, 800MHz 'half a soccer ball' iMac. The main reason for the trepidation was the classification of my machine at Uncertain at the Leopard Assist website here: http://www.mac.profusehost.net/leopardassist/overview.html I needn't have worried. I used Dylan McDermond's 'faking out the installer' instructions here: http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/openfirmware.html and it was a piece of cake! First, I rebooted, holding down Cmd-Opt-O-F to get into the Open Firmware. Then I typed the 3 commands into the OF command line. I told it to be 900MHz. I let it reboot and checked About This Mac... and found that, indeed, it did believe itself to be 900MHz. Popped in the Leopard installer disc and ran the installer, which then immediately reboots. I gave it the 4-finger salute and entered the 3 commands again. It then S-L-O-W-L-Y booted and began the installation process. Selected a destination, clicked Options, chose Archive Install and Preserve Users. After about 2 hours, it was ready to roll (and reboot). It couldn't identify my keyboard, which is a wireless Logitech, but the keyboard and mouse both worked fine, so no worries there. Mind you, my Logitech Control Center thinks there are no items attached, but it was time to update that item anyway. My DynDNS Updater startup item needed a security fix. No problem (although it doesn't seem to be working for some reason, even before Leopard). It recognized my wireless networks and all. Then I ran Software Update. It found 6 items amounting to about a GB, including a combined OS update to increment to 10.5.8. DL'd and installed all of them. At first it didn't seem to know my printer. Then, when I was searching for a driver, it appeared to remember it; so I just carried on without adding the Leopard driver. For the most part, I'm VERY pleased that I did this and that it was so easy. -- MalcolmO 800 MHz 17 flat panel iMac, 1GB RAM, 500GB HD, Leopard 10.5.6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
