Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
In a message dated 9/9/09 11:06:22 PM, dantear...@gmail.com writes: I donno. I'd like to think there will be at least one interestingly new gizmo available before we all get borged. ...before? 4 of Adjuct 17, formerly known as Craig W. You Will Be Assimilated - me/us(!) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
I dunno, man. I think there is a lot of room for innovation in the space between this drive for cost-cutting and the re-architecture response the industry is producing. I also think you and I would make for a good G4 talk show :D -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Malcolm O'Brien malcolmo2...@hotmail.com wrote: The next ten years in computing will be very interesting :) Now THAT I disagree with. It hasn't been interesting since the plethora of 8-bits and the introduction of the Amiga. That said, the only thing since that qualified was OS X. And thank God for flat panels. But the next 10 years? BORING! Boring but cheap. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
I think there is a lot of room for innovation in the space between this drive for cost-cutting and the re-architecture response the industry is producing. No doubt. I just don't find that interesting. Expectable, predictable, virtually certain. zzz I also think you and I would make for a good G4 talk show :D Line up a sponsor and count me in! ;) -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
So the user feels ripped off I'm starting to think that none of you were around when the expression was coined. Ripped off means: They took your money and gave you NOTHING (or something that appeared to be something valuable but which turned out to be worthless). We're going into your pockets to give you something you neither want nor need is extortion. -- Malcolm 800MHz 17 flat panel iMac running Leopard --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Personally, I'm waiting for the future Apple processors that will replace the Intel chips. Since Apple bought a chip maker about 18 months ago, I'm hoping they are getting close to releasing them soon. Don't hold your breath...Apple bought that company for their expertise in making small devices: the chips from them are geared towards future iPhone models, not future Macs. Why on EARTH do you think Apple would switch their architecture *again*? Intel is working out quite well for them. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
On Sep 7, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Malcolm O'Brien wrote: I'm starting to think that none of you were around when the expression was coined. Ripped off means: They took your money and gave you NOTHING (or something that appeared to be something valuable but which turned out to be worthless). We're going into your pockets to give you something you neither want nor need is extortion. Here are the products we sell, buy them, don't buy them, it's up to you is called commerce. Yet again, we rational people are left explaining that the release of a new version of the OS neither turns your old one into a pumpkin nor means that Steve Job's hand-picked Apple Retail Ninjas will come to your house and force you at katana point to buy the new version. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
On 9/8/09 10:12 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Broadcast into the ether: Steve Job's hand-picked Apple Retail Ninjas will come to your house and force you at katana point to buy the new version. Yeah, I think he upgraded the ninja's. I woke up and it was just installed the day it was released. I don't know how that happened. ;-) --Kyle Hansen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Call me crazy, but I think ARM is the future of computing. ARM is a much more sensible ISA than x86 or even PPC, and we keep seeing more and more powerful ARM chips come out every year. Meanwhile, everyone is porting everything they can to it. Picture ten years down the road: 2GHz ARM chips with large amounts of instruction-level parallelism, out-of-order execution, etc. It would be a formidable chip and probably blow x86 out of the water clock for clock (and more importantly, performance/price). -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 8, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:04 AM -0700 9/8/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Personally, I'm waiting for the future Apple processors that will replace the Intel chips. Since Apple bought a chip maker about 18 months ago, I'm hoping they are getting close to releasing them soon. Don't hold your breath...Apple bought that company for their expertise in making small devices: the chips from them are geared towards future iPhone models, not future Macs. Perhaps. Depends on the design direction they take. Why on EARTH do you think Apple would switch their architecture *again*? Intel is working out quite well for them. Some of us have high hopes for Apple. And it bugs the heck out of us to see Apple with a ball and chain around its neck. They've obviously done a lot of work with OS X to get it to function on multiple platforms - ppc, intel-x86, arm. We want to see what the future holds - when Apple gets around to taking performance seriously. I'd give my left leg to have a Power7 rack running OS X, eg. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 7, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Personally, I'm waiting for the future Apple processors that will replace the Intel chips. Since Apple bought a chip maker about 18 months ago, I'm hoping they are getting close to releasing them soon. Don't hold your breath...Apple bought that company for their expertise in making small devices: the chips from them are geared towards future iPhone models, not future Macs. OK. But from little acorns, mighty oaks grow Why on EARTH do you think Apple would switch their architecture *again*? Intel is working out quite well for them. So they are NOT dependent on an outside supplier who can cause problems for Apple's future plans? Besides, Apple has switched TWICE now, how can you say they WON'T do it again? -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
I'd agree with you except that there is some writing on the wall that makes me think ARM will continue to be an increasing threat. We're now reaching the stage where we blur the line between mobile and laptop/desktop OSes. Android runs on everything these days. Apple ported OS X to run on ARM. We have laptops that run ARM chips. Etc. The next ten years in computing will be very interesting :) -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 8, 2009, at 3:12 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jarett DeAngelis wrote: Picture ten years down the road: 2GHz ARM chips with large amounts of instruction-level parallelism, out-of-order execution, etc. It would be a formidable chip and probably blow x86 out of the water clock for clock (and more importantly, performance/price). You deeply underestimate Intel, I expect. Ten years down the line Intel will have advanced as far, too. EVERYTHING will be much more powerful. Historically, people (including me!) were saying the exact same thing about Intel with the advent of RISC, of the PPC, of AMD, and here we are with Intel on the top of the performance, price and usage pile. Still. AMD has come close, but Intel's move to 45nm really let them move ahead of AMD. Yes, you can get some high performance POWER chips. But IBM doesn't want to make them so you can run a laptop off of them. The staggering rate of performance increase of Macs since the Intel switch is proof enough to me that Apple chose the right track. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh my...you've never dealt with Which of the seven versions of Vista do you want Microsoft, have you?? ROFL (and btw, no, you can't just install the update anyway, like you can with Apple.) Apple is selling to 10.4 users the equivalent of iLife 09, iWork 09, 10.5 and 10.6 ($316 total retail value) for $169, and not even enforcing that. If they sold it the way they normally did, they'd be charging $129 for the OS alone. And 10.4 users would be whinging about how Apple's ripping them off instead of just charging $29 like the 10.5 upgrade, and is the New Microsoft. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Why would you categorize it as a ripoff? It's a ripoff if the product being sold is totally overpriced for what you get, NOT if it's not what you want. Remember, value for money is the key. Don't forget that the Boxed Set is NOT a requirement for upgrading. The Boxed Set is ONLY if you NEED iLife, iWork AND Leopard. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dennis B. Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: Elliott Price wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- __ Jonathan D. Rowson, M.D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
It would be a rip-off if only the keycode from the box set worked for upgrading from Tiger. But there are no keycodes, so the $30 single user CD will upgrade from Tiger, and also install on as many Macs as you can get your hands on. Legality is the only issue there. That's not a rip-off, 10.6 is totally worth $30, if only for Quicktime X, and I believe upgrading to Quicktime Pro used to be about the same. ($30) Plus you get speed and performance increases throughout the whole OS. :) By the way, this is a really strange thread... -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Jonathan Rowson wrote: Why would you categorize it as a ripoff? It's a ripoff if the product being sold is totally overpriced for what you get, NOT if it's not what you want. Remember, value for money is the key. Don't forget that the Boxed Set is NOT a requirement for upgrading. The Boxed Set is ONLY if you NEED iLife, iWork AND Leopard. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dennis B. Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: Elliott Price wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- __ Jonathan D. Rowson, M.D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Jonathan Rowson wrote: Why would you categorize it as a ripoff? It's a ripoff if the product being sold is totally overpriced for what you get, NOT if it's not what you want. Remember, value for money is the key. Don't forget that the Boxed Set is NOT a requirement for upgrading. The Boxed Set is ONLY if you NEED iLife, iWork AND Leopard. Scenario: User has Mac OS 10.4.11 installed on his ICBM. User for whatever reason has never acquired a copy of Mac OS 10.5.x. User does NOT need iLife or iWork. User wants to install Mac OS 10.6 on his ICBM. Apple offers the following: A. Mac OS 10.6 standalone for those who currently have Mac OS 10.5.x; Cost $29.00. B. Boxed Set of Mac OS 10.6 AND iLife AND iWork; Cost $169.00. If the user buys A and installs it on the ICBM, then the user has performed an illegal act according to Apple. If the user buys B and installs Mac OS 10.6 on the ICBM, then the user is legal in Apple's eyes, but had to spend an extra $140 for something the user did NOT need or want. So the user feels ripped off The obvious solution would to have the standalone Mac OS priced at $29 for Mac OS 10.5.x users, $99 for Mac OS 10.4.x users, and then the boxed set for those that wanted iLife/iWork in addition. Our user in this scenario could buy the boxed set and then sell the iLife and iWork for $70 each to get back the $140, or the user can, as has been mentioned, just get the standalone package, install it on the ICBM and tell Apple to kma Fortunately, I DO have Mac OS 10.5.x installed on my PowerBook, so I bought 3 copies of 10.6 at $25.00 each. 1 I'm keeping for future use, (after I get an Intel laptop), and the other 2 are for my sister and brother. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
That does appear to be the case. Although to do so would be a violation of the EULA... --ryan Sent from my iPod Touch On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:30, Bill Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote: Hi there: I am hearing rumors that the $29 disk will install on any Intel Mac, regardless of whether there's a previous installation of Leopard. Anybody know if that's true? *** Bill Spencer in Maryland IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Ryan Waldon wrote: That does appear to be the case. Although to do so would be a violation of the EULA... --ryan Sent from my iPod Touch On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:30, Bill Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote: Hi there: I am hearing rumors that the $29 disk will install on any Intel Mac, regardless of whether there's a previous installation of Leopard. Anybody know if that's true? *** Bill Spencer in Maryland IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Well, like we all pointed out, you don't have to. There's still no keycodes, either. -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 6, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: Elliott Price wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
anyone done the 29 dollar install on their tiger? Janice F. Jorgensen - Original Message - From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...? At 9:31 AM -0700 9/6/2009, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. I agree. Apple is the new Microsoft. No. MS sets their pricing based on monopoly abuse and feeling good about being evil, all the way to the bank. Apple does this under Jobs direction because L'billionare just doesn't care. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
Protip: Apple is a hardware company. I certainly don't have any moral qualms about using my SL disc to do a clean install on a Tiger machine. The alternative is frankly stupid. -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 6, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... -Elliott Price Mac Computer Repair - Santa Barbara Graphic Design - Artwork Setup Websites - Low Cost Custom Websites On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Ryan Waldon wrote: That does appear to be the case. Although to do so would be a violation of the EULA... --ryan Sent from my iPod Touch On Sep 6, 2009, at 8:30, Bill Spencer wspen...@jhu.edu wrote: Hi there: I am hearing rumors that the $29 disk will install on any Intel Mac, regardless of whether there's a previous installation of Leopard. Anybody know if that's true? *** Bill Spencer in Maryland IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Tiger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
IMO the best way to do this is a clean install. It works on Tiger, but it's not designed for it. Back up your data, insert disc, start machine, fire up Disk Utility, reformat, install. :) -- Jarett T. DeAngelis, MS Sr. IT Support Engineer Distributed Support Services, College of Arts and Letters Office of Information Technology 938 Flanner Hall University of Notre Dame On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Janice F. Jorgensen janicejorgen...@charter.net wrote: anyone done the 29 dollar install on their tiger? Janice F. Jorgensen - Original Message - From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...? At 9:31 AM -0700 9/6/2009, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. I agree. Apple is the new Microsoft. No. MS sets their pricing based on monopoly abuse and feeling good about being evil, all the way to the bank. Apple does this under Jobs direction because L'billionare just doesn't care. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
ATT is the reason why I don't have an iPhone. Based on my usage of and experience with my iPod Touch, I'm quite sure I would love the iPhone's hardware and interface. But I'm not willing to downgrade both my wireless connectivity and customer service by going from Sprint to ATT... --ryan Sent from my iPod Touch On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:31, Dennis B. Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: Elliott Price wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
And this relates to SL how? Sent from my eyeFone On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Ryan Waldon ryanwaldon2...@gmail.com wrote: ATT is the reason why I don't have an iPhone. Based on my usage of and experience with my iPod Touch, I'm quite sure I would love the iPhone's hardware and interface. But I'm not willing to downgrade both my wireless connectivity and customer service by going from Sprint to ATT... --ryan Sent from my iPod Touch On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:31, Dennis B. Swaney ro...@aol.com wrote: Elliott Price wrote: Yup, that about sums it up. Apple figures that if you never bought Leopard, then you never paid the $130 for it, and therefore should buy the way more expensive Box set Snow Leopard. It'll upgrade Tiger anyways, though, so I don't know how they're going to enforce this... The box set is a ripoff because it contains software that I DON'T want; I should not be required to buy unwanted applications just to upgrade my operating system. Apple is the new Microsoft. -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard from Tiger...?
I know! I know! Snow Leopard, the iPhone and the iTouch are all made by Apple. ;) Gary Fortman wrote: And this relates to SL how? Sent from my eyeFone On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Ryan Waldon ryanwaldon2...@gmail.com wrote: ATT is the reason why I don't have an iPhone. Based on my usage of and experience with my iPod Touch, I'm quite sure I would love the iPhone's hardware and interface. But I'm not willing to downgrade both my wireless connectivity and customer service by going from Sprint to ATT... -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---