Re: wireless mice and labs
On Apr 26, 2010, at 11:24 AM, ./aal wrote: OS X is not Linux. OS X is Unix. Linux is not Unix. Linux is only Unix like as described by Linus. And yes, Macs can run Linux. Tho I'm not sure why you would want to. cjc OS X is BSD OS X IS actually certified as a standard Unix http://tinyurl.com/ r86akg. If you want I can go list all the begats and begottens Old Testament style from the PDP11 in KR's lab in 1969. In any case, this is immaterial nitpicking, because what people are talking about is when you said : Carrie, for style and status same reason they bought the macs The person who ordered them had more dollars than sense Implying that people buying Macs are only buying them because they're shallow and stupid: for style and status. Oddly, people rather dislike being told they're shallow and stupid because they didn't buy YOUR approved form of computer. New iMacs ship with wireless mice nowadays. This is all that Apple offers, but it's not like you cannot use anything but apple-branded equipment. No one but trolls suggest that anymore. If you're buying a whole swotload of 'em (like enough to populate a computer lab) from Apple you can certainly negotiate a special order without mice and provide wired USB mice from another vendor instead. They didn't think about this, but that doesn't mean the only reason they bought Macs was for 'style and substance'...you pretty clearly have never tried to manage a school lab full of PC's. Macs at least stay up running malware-free. I'm glad you can be happy and productive running linux on your old macs, more power to you, but drop the sanctimonious BS about iStuff and 'what Steve Jobs tells me I need'. It's just flamebait. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
On 28 Apr 2010, at 18:05, Bruce Johnson wrote: New iMacs ship with wireless mice nowadays. This is all that Apple offers, Time this thread ended or changed it's name. Anyhoo You are wrong Bruce. New iMacs ship with whatever keyboard and mouse you wish to choose if you order via Apples website or by phone from Apple. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
On Apr 28, 2010, at 1:10 PM, John Hobbs wrote: Time this thread ended or changed it's name. Anyhoo You are wrong Bruce. New iMacs ship with whatever keyboard and mouse you wish to choose if you order via Apples website or by phone from Apple. When I specced a new iMac for someone here about two weeks ago I didn't see a wired mouse alternative. I did see the keyboard choices. I missed the wired mouse choice. Thanks for pointing it out... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christopher Collins macl...@analogdigital.com.au wrote: On 26/04/2010, at 9:59 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I like Macs, they run Linux great (as OSX shows) I like my computers to be personal, what I choose, instead of what Steve Jobs tells me I need. OS X is not Linux. OS X is Unix. Linux is not Unix. Linux is only Unix like as described by Linus. And yes, Macs can run Linux. Tho I'm not sure why you would want to. cjc OS X is BSD -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Christopher Collins macl...@analogdigital.com.au wrote: On 26/04/2010, at 9:59 AM, Bill Chapman wrote: I like Macs, they run Linux great (as OSX shows) I like my computers to be personal, what I choose, instead of what Steve Jobs tells me I need. OS X is not Linux. OS X is Unix. Linux is not Unix. Linux is only Unix like as described by Linus. And yes, Macs can run Linux. Tho I'm not sure why you would want to. cjc OS X is BSD correction OS X is GNU/BSD and Linux is GNU/Linux there are very minor differences if you want to run OS X on your Mac, then you understand why running Linux is so attractive -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Oh, my! Full disclosure: I have three Macs, two iMacs and one eMac. They are all rescues, all for the same reason: no password. I hacked in and they run very nicely now. I am giving them away. They interested me because they are beautifully designed and have a delightful simplicity. I run Windows 7 ( two flavors) and Linux (Zenwalk; I've run thirty others and use live CDs all the time). I chose windows 7 because for my purposes its better than any Linux, and now I do most of my computing on it. I've used a number of Mac OS systems. They are fine and no one could go wrong buying a nice new Mac. But my money's already been spent on PCs, so you know the rest. Yes indeed, old Macs can and do run well on Linux!. On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:13 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Bill Chapman pagew...@interlog.com wrote: ./aal wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, kind of odd to run into an 'McBasher' on this forum... that guy should pack up and move to pcworld haha Who's McBashing? I never said they were wrong to buy Mac's, no reason to be defensive and insecure. I like Macs, they run Linux great (as OSX shows) I like my computers to be personal, what I choose, instead of what Steve Jobs tells me I need. My taste informs me about what I want. If you want to group me in with the mac faithful, go ahead... but to infer that I buy stuff only on Steve's say-so is really off the mark... so in fact you are actually flaming, like those trolls who say that people who buy Macs are automatically stupid and can't make rational decisions. Btw I've never purchased a brand-new mac, nor do I have any iStuff, including so much as an iPod. I have 12 macs (since 1996) and just 2 months ago got my first G5 at 1/10 the cost of the original price. not flaming, just observing..btw if you got a G5 you have iStuff, you have an iMac I have a bondi iMac myself and as earlier posts in the thread show, you any choice in mice you want, as long as it is the only one Steve said to sell with it. how they expect computer labs to fill a room with iMacs+wireless mice is beyond me seems they would offer a wired mouse option, but that would dent their bottom line -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Okay, by iStuff I guess I really mean handhelds... I should refer to iPods, iPhones, etc as iHandHelds, I suppose... just 'stuff' to me, toys... I never really got into Apple mice that much... I had severe tennis-elbow issues when I first got into computers (1996) and switched to the fantastic Kensington TurboMouse early on and used that exclusively for years on my ADB macs. Since getting into OSX I use Logitech Marble Mouse. ./aal wrote: not flaming, just observing..btw if you got a G5 you have iStuff, you have an iMac I have a bondi iMac myself and as earlier posts in the thread show, you any choice in mice you want, as long as it is the only one Steve said to sell with it. how they expect computer labs to fill a room with iMacs+wireless mice is beyond me seems they would offer a wired mouse option, but that would dent their bottom line -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
On Apr 25, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: I didn't know you had a choice of wired/wireless mice with new macs. I haven't read specs on newer ones. Just assumed wireless are standard. the only option I saw when speccing an iMac the other day was a wireless one. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
./aal wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, kind of odd to run into an 'McBasher' on this forum... that guy should pack up and move to pcworld haha Who's McBashing? I never said they were wrong to buy Mac's, no reason to be defensive and insecure. I like Macs, they run Linux great (as OSX shows) I like my computers to be personal, what I choose, instead of what Steve Jobs tells me I need. My taste informs me about what I want. If you want to group me in with the mac faithful, go ahead... but to infer that I buy stuff only on Steve's say-so is really off the mark... so in fact you are actually flaming, like those trolls who say that people who buy Macs are automatically stupid and can't make rational decisions. Btw I've never purchased a brand-new mac, nor do I have any iStuff, including so much as an iPod. I have 12 macs (since 1996) and just 2 months ago got my first G5 at 1/10 the cost of the original price. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Those of us who work for schools where we have sense but are waay short on dollars would have gladly taken a few dollars off their hands to help them out with their sense problem. ;-) If I had a whole lab of brand new Macs (even with corded mice) I'd think I'd died and gone to heaven. I spend my days trying to get modern software to run on and prevent students/faculty from hosing up 10 year old PCs (which we inherit from companies and people wanting to get rid of them for something new) that have tiny hard drives, little memory, and no processor oooph (they are PCs of course). On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:37 PM, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Carrie freakycarseatl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com wrote: There is no easy fix for this. Seems that installing corded mice is plenty easy--probably the easiest fix there is (for this problem at least). ;-) As a school computer lab tech I can't imagine why you'd want cordless mice in a lab in the first place. ... Carrie Carrie, for style and status same reason they bought the macs The person who ordered them had more dollars than sense -- -- NOT sent from an iphone,blackberry,Nokia, or any handheld. -- I'm a PC(x86 AND ppc) AND I RUN LINUX!!! Linux is like ice cream. It comes in many flavors and everyone has their favorite, but we all get the same smile regardless of which we choose to scoop. - -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- Carrie www.flowerkraut.com -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Ashgrove wrote: On Apr 22, 8:37 pm, ./aal aalh...@gmail.com wrote: Carrie, for style and status same reason they bought the macs The person who ordered them had more dollars than sense Well, at least they had the sense to buy Macs. The wireless mice were an unfortunate idea, but getting PCs and installing WIndows 7, or Vista, or any flavor of creamy Linux would have meant investing that money in a bigger IT department... Felix Yeah, about 10 years ago a friend ran his own print shop, and was an expert with pc and mac (had computer engineer degree, ran his own server, etc) and said that 'behind the scenes, Windows is a mess' Btw, kind of odd to run into an 'McBasher' on this forum... that guy should pack up and move to pcworld haha -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Charles Lenington wrote: A local school just installed 25-30 iMacs in a lab. The admin is having fits with he mice controlling computers several seats away. Any easy solutions? tks Charles That's strange this was bounced on iphone saying server refused . Did't mean to cross post. I came home and sent from mac. consider this thread dead here.. pick up thread labs and wireless mice at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: wireless mice and labs
Stop using wireless MIce. They're designed for single computer rooms only. bunching them all up in a single room is bound to make trouble. Pick up some real lab-grade mice (AKA Corded mice) and your problem is solved. There is no easy fix for this. On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: A local school just installed 25-30 iMacs in a lab. The admin is having fits with he mice controlling computers several seats away. Any easy solutions? tks Charles -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- -Proudly Sent from a Windows PC -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
