Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-20 Thread Ashgrove
Elliott,

Thanks for the answer. I'm always thinking of upgrading this beast, or
doing something with it, but in the end laziness (and perhaps common
sense) wins. It used to serve as an iTunes jukebox in my bedroom (with
the help of a USB wireless thingie), but it has been long replaced by
a Pismo and now an iBook.

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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-19 Thread Richard Bouquet
I had a 350mhz that I upgraded to a 600mhz and the only problem I had was
the power light was always amber lol... everything should work just fine
though :)

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  There were 350 MHz slot loaders without firewire.  I worked in a school
 lab
  with 20 of them.  They are kind of a fringe model, possibly an education
  only model.
 
 Exactly. I got mine from a Gradeschool that was upgrading. it's pretty
 nice, and I like the color. and I don't mind the  fact that it's now
 an iMac DV with a blueberry color (I prefer it over the ones you can
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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-19 Thread Ashgrove
I always make a point not to piggyback into threads, but this time I
think it'll be the easiest thing for everyone. I have a 333Mhz
trayloader. Is it possible to upgrade it with a slotloader logic
board?

TIA,

Felix

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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-19 Thread Elliott Price
No... It is impossible. *Maybe* with a LOT of hacking, soldering, dremmeling, 
ETC; The slot-loader motherboards wouldn't even fit (physically) inside the 
trayloader. Apple radically re-designed the slot-load iMac, and it has 
different connectors, a different number of connectors, (Much less) and 
probably different voltage requirements from the PSU. Which is in a different 
place... 
You can, however, upgrade the processor in the trayloader; and I believe you 
can even get G4 upgrades for it. Might be worth looking into if you want to 
upgrade.


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On Mar 19, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Ashgrove wrote:

 I always make a point not to piggyback into threads, but this time I
 think it'll be the easiest thing for everyone. I have a 333Mhz
 trayloader. Is it possible to upgrade it with a slotloader logic
 board?
 
 TIA,
 
 Felix
 
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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread Jeremiah Stevens
If it doesn't have firewire you must mean the tray loader. The boards are 
shaped differently between the two, so I would just reccomend finding a cheap 
g3 firewire capable model with a dead board and hook it up in that. I upgraded 
my Indigo iMac G3 (500mhz) with a 600mhz board out of a graphite with a smashed 
case, with a gig of ram this thing flies
 
Jeremiah Stevens





From: Christian Wacker pizzaboy...@gmail.com
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Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 10:51:01 AM
Subject: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

My school almost threw out a good logic board for a G3 iMac (400mhz
with firewire) and I'm curious if it'll work to upgrade my 350mhz
FireWire-less iMac slotload.
What i'm wondering is: 1: How easy is it to replace it?
2: should I be worried about heat issues?
3: what kind of damage could this board do to my good imac base if
it's gone bad since it was last used (The CRT went out on the donor
system, and the board was removed, and placed in storage for parts,
but was almost thrown out during spring cleaning.)?
Thanks
-Christian

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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread ./aal
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, it'll work nicely. We did this with my little brother's 350Mhz
 Blueberry, because we didn't update the firmware before installing OSX. It
 also allows for a DVD drive upgrade, since it has the DVD encoders that the
 350Mhz boards lack.


It's a DVD DEcoder, not encoder





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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread Elliott Price
Yes... That... Same difference. :)
But it does have the capability to playback DVD's, which the 350, no-firewire 
ones lack.


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On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:00 AM, ./aal wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Yes, it'll work nicely. We did this with my little brother's 350Mhz
 Blueberry, because we didn't update the firmware before installing OSX. It
 also allows for a DVD drive upgrade, since it has the DVD encoders that the
 350Mhz boards lack.
 
 
 It's a DVD DEcoder, not encoder
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread Christian Wacker
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes... That... Same difference. :)
 But it does have the capability to playback DVD's, which the 350, no-firewire 
 ones lack.

Except mine played back DVD's just fine.


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 On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:00 AM, ./aal wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Yes, it'll work nicely. We did this with my little brother's 350Mhz
 Blueberry, because we didn't update the firmware before installing OSX. It
 also allows for a DVD drive upgrade, since it has the DVD encoders that the
 350Mhz boards lack.


 It's a DVD DEcoder, not encoder





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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread Elliott Price
Oh, well perhaps I was mistaken. When we swapped boards on my brother's, we 
thought that the 350 one wouldn't play DVD's... But that was a long time ago, 
and we could've been mistaken. I know that between the Lombards, the low end 
ones don't have the decoder, and the nicer ones do. Maybe that's what I was 
thinking of.


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On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Christian Wacker wrote:

 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Yes... That... Same difference. :)
 But it does have the capability to playback DVD's, which the 350, 
 no-firewire ones lack.
 
 Except mine played back DVD's just fine.
 
 
-Elliott Price
 
 Quoit - Macintosh Computer Services
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 On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:00 AM, ./aal wrote:
 
 On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Elliott Price callmemrp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Yes, it'll work nicely. We did this with my little brother's 350Mhz
 Blueberry, because we didn't update the firmware before installing OSX. It
 also allows for a DVD drive upgrade, since it has the DVD encoders that the
 350Mhz boards lack.
 
 
 It's a DVD DEcoder, not encoder
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-18 Thread Clark Martin

On 3/18/10 7:13 AM, Christian Wacker wrote:

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Jeremiah Stevens
jeremiah.stev...@prodigy.net  wrote:

If it doesn't have firewire you must mean the tray loader. The boards are
shaped differently between the two, so I would just reccomend finding a
cheap g3 firewire capable model with a dead board and hook it up in that. I
upgraded my Indigo iMac G3 (500mhz) with a 600mhz board out of a graphite
with a smashed case, with a gig of ram this thing flies

Jeremiah Stevens


Actually, the 350mhz Budget one doesn't have FireWire. I upgraded it
just fine, blazes through stuff now =)


There were 350 MHz slot loaders without firewire.  I worked in a school 
lab with 20 of them.  They are kind of a fringe model, possibly an 
education only model.


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Re: Replacing the logic board in a G3?

2010-03-15 Thread Elliott Price
Yes, it'll work nicely. We did this with my little brother's 350Mhz  
Blueberry, because we didn't update the firmware before installing  
OSX. It also allows for a DVD drive upgrade, since it has the DVD  
encoders that the 350Mhz boards lack.


1. Quite easy. Just open it up, and take out the logic board. It's  
pretty self-apperent.

2. Nope. The heat put off by 400Mhz vs. 350Mhz is... still not much.
3. Probably not much... If the logic board is bad, it probably just  
won't boot. I don't see how it could damage other components... It's  
perhaps conceivable, but not probable.


I wish I could find where my school discards old Mac stuff.


-Elliott Price

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On Mar 15, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Christian Wacker wrote:


My school almost threw out a good logic board for a G3 iMac (400mhz
with firewire) and I'm curious if it'll work to upgrade my 350mhz
FireWire-less iMac slotload.
What i'm wondering is: 1: How easy is it to replace it?
2: should I be worried about heat issues?
3: what kind of damage could this board do to my good imac base if
it's gone bad since it was last used (The CRT went out on the donor
system, and the board was removed, and placed in storage for parts,
but was almost thrown out during spring cleaning.)?
Thanks
-Christian

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