Re: iMac G4 troubles
Alex Barnes wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. battery or drive master/slave jumpers set wrong -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 troubles
Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 troubles
Alex Barnes wrote: How do I change the configuration? Gary Fortman wrote: Most modern drives have a chart on them showing jumper placement. You need to match chart. if old drive is set to master then new drive needs to be master, if CS (cable select) then cs, and slave to slave. any computer tech/store will help set jumpers. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 troubles
I have a 1.25 17 that I have worked on quite often. I know that it can be a tricky situation to re-seat the base onto the bottom...are you sure the pins are aligned with the ports correctly? you can also check to see if there is any cabling that was caught when reassembling and has been frayed or pinched. Also keep in mind that the heatsink will need to have good contact to prevent any issues. When installing the HHDs have you double-checked the connections between the drive and the HHD? one last point that comes to mind is the fact you may have a bad stick of ram...seems like an unrelated issue but I have had bad sticks give me all manner of issues. Oh, that reminds me of one more thing ... I had a bad Airport card screw up downloads before too, weird stuff Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jason Trunzo wrote: Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this
Re: iMac G4 troubles
I haven't even thought of a bad RAM stick being the problem! As for the base, I'm pretty shure I'm putting the base together correctly (I'll admit that I have no idea what Apple was thinking when they designed the guts of the computer). I have checked the heatsink and I think it's on as good as it will ever be. I'm taking the HDD to Compusa to get the jumpers changed. coloradodreaming wrote: I have a 1.25 17 that I have worked on quite often. I know that it can be a tricky situation to re-seat the base onto the bottom...are you sure the pins are aligned with the ports correctly? you can also check to see if there is any cabling that was caught when reassembling and has been frayed or pinched. Also keep in mind that the heatsink will need to have good contact to prevent any issues. When installing the HHDs have you double-checked the connections between the drive and the HHD? one last point that comes to mind is the fact you may have a bad stick of ram...seems like an unrelated issue but I have had bad sticks give me all manner of issues. Oh, that reminds me of one more thing ... I had a bad Airport card screw up downloads before too, weird stuff Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jason Trunzo wrote: Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send
Re: iMac G4 troubles
you don't have to head over there if you don't want to, just google jumper settings on your brand of hard drive, you should get a hit on a PDF at least. then you can use tweezers to pull off the jumper pin and reseat it in the proper alignment, if it needs to be set differently Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I haven't even thought of a bad RAM stick being the problem! As for the base, I'm pretty shure I'm putting the base together correctly (I'll admit that I have no idea what Apple was thinking when they designed the guts of the computer). I have checked the heatsink and I think it's on as good as it will ever be. I'm taking the HDD to Compusa to get the jumpers changed. coloradodreaming wrote: I have a 1.25 17 that I have worked on quite often. I know that it can be a tricky situation to re-seat the base onto the bottom...are you sure the pins are aligned with the ports correctly? you can also check to see if there is any cabling that was caught when reassembling and has been frayed or pinched. Also keep in mind that the heatsink will need to have good contact to prevent any issues. When installing the HHDs have you double-checked the connections between the drive and the HHD? one last point that comes to mind is the fact you may have a bad stick of ram...seems like an unrelated issue but I have had bad sticks give me all manner of issues. Oh, that reminds me of one more thing ... I had a bad Airport card screw up downloads before too, weird stuff Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jason Trunzo wrote: Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at
Re: iMac G4 troubles
Well, this is getting weird. I was looking at the jumpers on the bad HDD and I found a jumper that made the drive show up as a 32 GB drive (there is a diagram on the drive). So, I pulled it out and now it's showing up as a 80 GB drive! So, I installed it back into the iMac and I put my iBook running 10.2 in target disk mode and I got the iMac to boot onto the iBook's HDD! It is working fine like this (I'm typing this out using the iMac!). I still don't know why it doesn't want to boot onto a CD though (I checked the disk drive and it was able to import music to iTunes). coloradodreaming wrote: you don't have to head over there if you don't want to, just google jumper settings on your brand of hard drive, you should get a hit on a PDF at least. then you can use tweezers to pull off the jumper pin and reseat it in the proper alignment, if it needs to be set differently Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I haven't even thought of a bad RAM stick being the problem! As for the base, I'm pretty shure I'm putting the base together correctly (I'll admit that I have no idea what Apple was thinking when they designed the guts of the computer). I have checked the heatsink and I think it's on as good as it will ever be. I'm taking the HDD to Compusa to get the jumpers changed. coloradodreaming wrote: I have a 1.25 17 that I have worked on quite often. I know that it can be a tricky situation to re-seat the base onto the bottom...are you sure the pins are aligned with the ports correctly? you can also check to see if there is any cabling that was caught when reassembling and has been frayed or pinched. Also keep in mind that the heatsink will need to have good contact to prevent any issues. When installing the HHDs have you double-checked the connections between the drive and the HHD? one last point that comes to mind is the fact you may have a bad stick of ram...seems like an unrelated issue but I have had bad sticks give me all manner of issues. Oh, that reminds me of one more thing ... I had a bad Airport card screw up downloads before too, weird stuff Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jason Trunzo wrote: Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave
Re: iMac G4 troubles
That was a drive setting from the fat-32 days on windows. I guess having it connected was mucking up the boot cycle since the device was improperly configured for mac hfs. So now you can install your os from the iBook. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2010, at 2:42 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, this is getting weird. I was looking at the jumpers on the bad HDD and I found a jumper that made the drive show up as a 32 GB drive (there is a diagram on the drive). So, I pulled it out and now it's showing up as a 80 GB drive! So, I installed it back into the iMac and I put my iBook running 10.2 in target disk mode and I got the iMac to boot onto the iBook's HDD! It is working fine like this (I'm typing this out using the iMac!). I still don't know why it doesn't want to boot onto a CD though (I checked the disk drive and it was able to import music to iTunes). coloradodreaming wrote: you don't have to head over there if you don't want to, just google jumper settings on your brand of hard drive, you should get a hit on a PDF at least. then you can use tweezers to pull off the jumper pin and reseat it in the proper alignment, if it needs to be set differently Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I haven't even thought of a bad RAM stick being the problem! As for the base, I'm pretty shure I'm putting the base together correctly (I'll admit that I have no idea what Apple was thinking when they designed the guts of the computer). I have checked the heatsink and I think it's on as good as it will ever be. I'm taking the HDD to Compusa to get the jumpers changed. coloradodreaming wrote: I have a 1.25 17 that I have worked on quite often. I know that it can be a tricky situation to re-seat the base onto the bottom...are you sure the pins are aligned with the ports correctly? you can also check to see if there is any cabling that was caught when reassembling and has been frayed or pinched. Also keep in mind that the heatsink will need to have good contact to prevent any issues. When installing the HHDs have you double-checked the connections between the drive and the HHD? one last point that comes to mind is the fact you may have a bad stick of ram...seems like an unrelated issue but I have had bad sticks give me all manner of issues. Oh, that reminds me of one more thing ... I had a bad Airport card screw up downloads before too, weird stuff Steve On Aug 22, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Jason Trunzo wrote: Thats unusual all right. The real deal here is that we've got to get the iMac to boot from somewhere so we can diagnose the drive. Do you have another working PowerPC mac with firewire in your house? You can put that mac in target disc mode and then use it as a boot drive. Alternately, you can put the iMac in target disc mode and connect it to a working mac to run disk utility and attempt to diagnose the problem. On Aug 22, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our
Re: iMac G4 troubles
Just replaced the HD in a G4 iMac last week, it was set to Cable Select. It had never been replaced before, so Cable Select is the original factory setting. -Elliott On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Charles Lenington wrote: Alex Barnes wrote: How do I change the configuration? Gary Fortman wrote: Most modern drives have a chart on them showing jumper placement. You need to match chart. if old drive is set to master then new drive needs to be master, if CS (cable select) then cs, and slave to slave. any computer tech/store will help set jumpers. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comimaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com imaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com imaclist%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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How do I change the configuration? Gary Fortman wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I am gathering that you don't have any other equipment to connect to the iMac. If you had an internal or external DVD drive you could boot w the installer disc by holding down the c key until the disc boots or the option key until you can select the disc as startup. If you can't open your disc tray try booting into open firmware. While powering on the mac hold down option o and f keys until you see a text prompt to release. The. Type eject cd. Your tray should open. Now insert your install cd and type reset all and hold down the c key again. I hope some of this helps. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G4 troubles
The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
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I have tried that before. Unfouruntely the iMac freezes in the middle of the boot but only when I'm using the bad HDD even though I'm booting it off a CD. It freezes when it shows a happy Mac or when the grey apple comes up. Jason Trunzo wrote: The reason we want you to do this is two fold. First to see the mac thru a successful bootup. Second so you can run disc utility on your drive from the installer cd to attempt to repair the drive. Or simply reinstall the os. DON'T PANIC! Sent from my Electronic Thumb On Aug 21, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Gary Fortman gfort...@isd.net wrote: Hard drives have configurations for slave or master depending on if they are the boot drive or a secondary drive. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: What's that? Tom Venney wrote: Is the HD set for Cable Select? On Aug 21, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Alex Barnes wrote: It won't it just freezes in the middle of the boot and that's when I using the bad HDD when I'm using the good ones it won't get past the folder with a question mark. Jack Suggs wrote: Will it boot with an OS installer CD in the drive? Hold down the C key to start from a bootable disc (DVD, CD) On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alex Barnes kab...@gmail.com wrote: I am reposting this because the old post I made got sidetracked and I could not get an answer. I have an iMac G4 that will not boot past the folder with a question mark. I have tried this using 3 different HDDs and the only one that I can get to boot any farther is a bad HDD (it's also the only HDD that any of my computers will recognize). I have tried booting the computer using Mac OS 9, 10.1, 10.2, and Debian Linux. All stop in the middle of the boot. -- - Tom Venney tven...@cablespeed.com Have Radio will Travel -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
