Re: [efloraofindia:68453] Request for ID : 300411 : AK-1

[Nidhan Singh]

Hi,

A wild guess. Can this be a Daphne species?

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Re: [efloraofindia:68454] Flora of Mississippi, USA-001

[Vijayasankar]

This is the 'State Flower' for both Mississippi and Louisiana states.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

> Thanks Tanay and Vijayasankar ji
>
> I missed this one.
>
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> Thank you Tanay, nice catch...
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:27 PM, tanay bose wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vijaya Ji,
>>> Some picture of the same plant from Vancouver.
>>> Thanks
>>> Tanay
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Vijayasankar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Dear friends,

 *Magnolia lilliflora*, an ornamental plant, from Mississippi.

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
>>> Department of Botany.
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>>> http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68455] Solanum kurzii Brace ex Prain [Solanaceae]

[Muthu Karthick]

Any other synonym for this plant sir? because its hard to find out in older
publications even in Flora Simliansis and FBI.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Muthu ji, it should be good addition to our database, if identification is
> confirmed. Can you find its detailed description. One in Brandis Indian
> trees is too little.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
>
>>
>> Name: *Solanum kurzii* Brace ex Prain
>> Family: Solanaceae
>> Fruit size: 5 x 3 cm
>> Flower size: 3-4cm across
>>
>> Date: 09 April 2011
>> Location: Garden in Kotagiri, The Nilgiris
>>
>> Native of Himalayas; local people say that the fruits are of medicinal
>> value. Is this identification right?
>>
>> --
>> Muthu Karthick, N
>> Care Earth Trust
>> #15, second main road,
>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>> Chennai - 600 061
>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>
>>
>
>
>


-- 
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Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org

Re: [efloraofindia:68456] Tree for ID : 281210 : AK-1

[Vijayasankar]

To me it looks like *Ixora*.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:00 AM, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Resurfacing again for ID
> Earlier feedback
>
> Nudrat ji..The plant in picture
> is not Wrightia as Wrightia has connivent anthers, a feature that is clearly
> absent. *My guess is the flowers belong to Holarrhena antidysentrica*. I
> could however be wrong.
> Muthu ji..*Any
> possibilities for this to be a Rubiaceae member?
>
> *
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aarti S. Khale 
> Date: 28 December 2010 13:14
> Subject: [efloraofindia:58102] Tree for ID : 281210 : AK-1
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> Tree at Temple of the Tooth, Kandy, Sri Lanka on the 17th of November,
> 2010.
> Is it some Wrightia?
> Flowers were very mildly fragrant.
> Aarti
>
>
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:68457] Gulmohar Tree

[Vijayasankar]

Congrats to both of you for ex situ conservation of this otherwise
endangered (in wild) species in its homeland i.e. Madagascar.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Interestingly I have two trees, one on either side of our building just 50
> feet away. One started flowering about 20 days back when leafless, and is
> now full of bloom. The leaves have just started to appear on lower branches.
> The second tree started producing new leaves but no flowers (both are good
> sized; almost same height). Only 5-6 days ago it started producing flowers
> after the whole tree was full of leaves. I am uploading both.
> Can any member throw some light on explanation for this.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mani nair  wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>> Happy to inform you that the Gulmohar tree which was not flowering  has
>> now started flowering.
>> Here are two photos. Sorry for the picture quality.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mani.
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68458] Re: 29042011PJ2

[H S]

Its does not look like Hydnocarpus sps.



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Re: [efloraofindia:68460] Gulmohar Tree

[H S]

As it is exotic tree.. how it can be endangered in Wild...





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Re: [efloraofindia:68462] Gulmohar Tree

[Muthu Karthick]

Endangered in Madagascar [where it is native]; exotic in India

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, H S  wrote:

> As it is exotic tree.. how it can be endangered in Wild...
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>


-- 
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Re: [efloraofindia:68463] Tree for ID : 281210 : AK-1

[H S]

Ixora has 4 petals, here clearly 5... look like any of Apocynaceae flower



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Re: [efloraofindia:68464] Gulmohar Tree

[Pankaj Oudhia]

 What are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? © Pankaj Oudhia Till few months
back this hill was rich in Boswellia population. The Traditional Healers
visit to this hill for collection of Boswellia plant parts in bulk but
without affecting its natural population. Now this Hill is under influence
of "Dongar Mafia". There is an effort to capture the hill as well as its
forest in the name of religion. Forest trees are decreasing and Gulmohar
like trees are under promotion. Gulmohar is new tree for birds and other
forest creatures. Hence they are migrating to other places. That's why I am
asking that what are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? You can see
Boswellia tree in background of Gulmohar flowers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3O3iUGWClQ

Lady in Red: Gulmohar in Summer-1 © Pankaj Oudhia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB8uQeCM2Y


regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> Endangered in Madagascar [where it is native]; exotic in India
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, H S  wrote:
>
>> As it is exotic tree.. how it can be endangered in Wild...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>>
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>

[efloraofindia:68465] Is this Lonicera? 300411MK3

[Muthu Karthick]

Dear all,
Please help to id this large climber found on the campus of a private
property at Kotagiri. Is this a species of Honeysuckle? I doubt the bigger
leaves.

 *Date/Time-*

09-04-2011 / 04:30 PM

*Location- Place, Altitude, GP*

ca.2000asl; Kotagiri, TN

*Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*

garden

*Plant Habit-*
straggler

*Height/Length-*

c 5 m long

*Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*

ca.10 x 8 cm; glabrous

*Inflorescence Type/ Size-*

axillary

*Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*

yellowish; c 8cm long

*Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
not observed

*Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *

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Re: [efloraofindia:68466] Tree for ID : 281210 : AK-1

[Dinesh Valke]

... to me, the centre of flower resembles that of *Vinca* species ... may be
far away from actual genus.
Regards.
Dinesh






On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, H S  wrote:

> Ixora has 4 petals, here clearly 5... look like any of Apocynaceae flower
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

[efloraofindia:68467] Re: ID No. 02042011 RD01

[Pudji Widodo]

I think it is Miliusa horsfieldii

Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

Re: [efloraofindia:68468] 29042011PJ1 ID request

[H S]

Dear all, its very much confusion in kala kuda and pandhra kuda the local
marathi name..
Kala kuda is Holarrhena pubescens (bark dark colour)
Pandhra kuda or Dahi kuda is Wrightia tinctoria (bark whitish)
Infact in many marathi literature it has been confusing..

this foto is Wrightia tinctoria


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Re: [efloraofindia:68469] Ficus for ID : 300411 : AK-3

[H S]

i guess Ficus virens var. wightiana




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Re: [efloraofindia:68470] 29042011PJ1 ID request

[Pankaj Oudhia]

Just for comparison. Wrightia bark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2U4-9HiPgk


regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, H S  wrote:

> Dear all, its very much confusion in kala kuda and pandhra kuda the local
> marathi name..
> Kala kuda is Holarrhena pubescens (bark dark colour)
> Pandhra kuda or Dahi kuda is Wrightia tinctoria (bark whitish)
> Infact in many marathi literature it has been confusing..
>
> this foto is Wrightia tinctoria
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68471] 29042011PJ1 ID request

[Gurcharan Singh]

My information (Useful Plants of India, CSIR) is reverse, as rightly written
by Neil ji and Ajinkya ji

Kala Kuda, Indrajau, mitha indrajau refer to Wrightia tinctoria

dola-kuda, pandhara-kuda, karwa indrajau, kadu indrajau refer to Holarrhena
pubescens



-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, H S  wrote:

> Dear all, its very much confusion in kala kuda and pandhra kuda the local
> marathi name..
> Kala kuda is Holarrhena pubescens (bark dark colour)
> Pandhra kuda or Dahi kuda is Wrightia tinctoria (bark whitish)
> Infact in many marathi literature it has been confusing..
>
> this foto is Wrightia tinctoria
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68472] Tree for ID : 271210 : AK-3

[Dr E S Santhosh Kumar]

Seems to be a species of Gardenia

santhosh

On 29 April 2011 17:30, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Aarti S. Khale 
> Date: 27 December 2010 13:47
> Subject: [efloraofindia:58038] Tree for ID : 271210 : AK-3
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
> This tree with many buds taken at the Royal Botanic Gardens,
> Peradeniya, Kandy, Sri Lanka on the 17th of Nov, 2010.
> Sorry for the bad picture quality as taken in a hurry with no sunlight.
> Aarti
>
>
>
> --
> With regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:68473] 29042011PJ1 ID request

[Dinesh Valke]

Hello H S, ... please help us by elaborating with references, else it
becomes difficult to get convinced by what is stated in your post ...
especially, when we are getting to know that we have been knowing these
names entirely wrong.

Regards.
Dinesh







On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, H S  wrote:

> Dear all, its very much confusion in kala kuda and pandhra kuda the local
> marathi name..
> Kala kuda is Holarrhena pubescens (bark dark colour)
> Pandhra kuda or Dahi kuda is Wrightia tinctoria (bark whitish)
> Infact in many marathi literature it has been confusing..
>
> this foto is Wrightia tinctoria
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68474] Solanum kurzii Brace ex Prain [Solanaceae]

[Gurcharan Singh]

The species was described in 1896 from Eastern Himalayas, so not expected
from FBI or Fl. Simlensis. Any Flora from NE Himalayas should help.

-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:

> Any other synonym for this plant sir? because its hard to find out in older
> publications even in Flora Simliansis and FBI.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> Muthu ji, it should be good addition to our database, if identification is
>> confirmed. Can you find its detailed description. One in Brandis Indian
>> trees is too little.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Muthu Karthick wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Name: *Solanum kurzii* Brace ex Prain
>>> Family: Solanaceae
>>> Fruit size: 5 x 3 cm
>>> Flower size: 3-4cm across
>>>
>>> Date: 09 April 2011
>>> Location: Garden in Kotagiri, The Nilgiris
>>>
>>> Native of Himalayas; local people say that the fruits are of medicinal
>>> value. Is this identification right?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Muthu Karthick, N
>>> Care Earth Trust
>>> #15, second main road,
>>> Thillai ganga nagar,
>>> Chennai - 600 061
>>> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
>>> www.careearthtrust.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> www.careearthtrust.org
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68476] Re: 29042011PJ2

[Smita Raskar]

yeah its not like Hydnocarpus my apologies for wrong observation and
thanks for correcting me

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, H S  wrote:

> Its does not look like Hydnocarpus sps.
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>


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Re: [efloraofindia:68477] Elsholtzia cristata from Morni hills

[H S]

Foto attached here is Rungia sps. may be Rungia repens not Elsholtzia
ciliata
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Re: [efloraofindia:68478] Re: Rubus for ID 290411MK2

[manudev madhavan]

Could this be *Rubus ellipticus??*

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Ushadi micromini  wrote:

> Muthuji: did you see any ripe berries? what color did they end up?
> edible?
>
> Usha di
> ==
>
> On Apr 29, 4:41 pm, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Please help to id this stragler found in the forests of Nilgiris. I also
> > recorded this in forest patches of Kodaikanal. Is this any *Rubus*
> species?
> >
> >  *Date/Time-*
> >
> > 10-04-2011 / 09:00 AM
> >
> > *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*
> >
> > ca.2000asl; Kotagiri, TN
> >
> > *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
> >
> > forest edges [weed]
> >
> > *Plant Habit-*
> > thorny straggler
> >
> > *Height/Length-*
> >
> > 1 - 2 m long
> >
> > *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
> >
> > ca.15 x 8 cm; 3-foliolate
> >
> > *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
> >
> > c. 15cm long; racemes
> >
> > *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
> >
> > yellow; c. 2.5 cm across
> >
> > *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
> >
> > *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
> > *
> > *
> > --
> > Muthu Karthick, N
> > Care Earth Trust
> > #15, second main road,
> > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > Chennai - 600 061
> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org
> >
> >  Rubus (5).jpg
> > 162KViewDownload
> >
> >  Rubus.jpg
> > 189KViewDownload
> >
> >  Rubus (1).jpg
> > 193KViewDownload
> >
> >  Rubus (2).jpg
> > 203KViewDownload
> >
> >  Rubus (3).jpg
> > 203KViewDownload
> >
> >  Rubus (4).jpg
> > 211KViewDownload
>



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Re: [efloraofindia:68479] 24042011GS2 perhaps Ruellia for ID from Tikkar tal Lake, Morni

[H S]

Also check with Dipteracanthus sps. doesnt look like Ruellia


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Re: [efloraofindia:68480] Re: Tinospora cordifolia from Lohari Panipat-flowers

[H S]

Both species are found in many parts of India..
T. sinensis leaves are hairy as well as bigger in size compare to those of
T. glabra

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Re: [efloraofindia:68481] identificationno201210sn1

[H S]

Also check with Sporobolus sps.


 - H.S.

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stone

[efloraofindia:68482] Re: Is this Lonicera? 300411MK3

[Mahadeswara]

Photographs not seen. Perhaps forgotten to upload.

On Apr 30, 12:45 pm, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> Dear all,
> Please help to id this large climber found on the campus of a private
> property at Kotagiri. Is this a species of Honeysuckle? I doubt the bigger
> leaves.
>
>  *Date/Time-*
>
> 09-04-2011 / 04:30 PM
>
> *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*
>
> ca.2000asl; Kotagiri, TN
>
> *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
>
> garden
>
> *Plant Habit-*
> straggler
>
> *Height/Length-*
>
> c 5 m long
>
> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
>
> ca.10 x 8 cm; glabrous
>
> *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
>
> axillary
>
> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
>
> yellowish; c 8cm long
>
> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
> not observed
>
> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org

Re: [efloraofindia:68483] Re: moha and south moha

[H S]

Madhuca indica is accepted name and M. longifolia var. latifolia is
synonym..
The foto above mentioned is of Madhuca indica and M. longifolia (Long leaf)




-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:68484] Gulmohar Tree

[Neil Soares]

Hi Prof. Singh,
   Would like to try to offer an explanation for this by taking an analogy from 
the Indian Laburnum.
 
   As I had stated in a previous mail :
 
"Forgot to mention that people who plant a Cassia fistula tree in the centre of 
their lawns and expect it to flower in summer, are solely disappointed 
because the moisture from watering the lawn is a deterrent to the tree to 
flower." 

 
available at this link:
 
https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/search?hl=en&group=indiantreepix&q=Cassia+fistula+Neil+Soares&qt_g=Search+this+group
 
It is therefore possible that while the tree in the first photograph is 
behaving like any self-respecting Gulmohar should at the height of the summer 
season, the tree in the second photograph may be placed near a water source 
like an underground drain / tank or alternatively it may be receiving excessive 
watering by over-zealous gardeners.
 Regards,
   Neil Soares.


--- On Sat, 4/30/11, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:


From: Gurcharan Singh 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68437] Gulmohar Tree
To: "mani nair" 
Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:40 AM


Interestingly I have two trees, one on either side of our building just 50 feet 
away. One started flowering about 20 days back when leafless, and is now full 
of bloom. The leaves have just started to appear on lower branches.
The second tree started producing new leaves but no flowers (both are good 
sized; almost same height). Only 5-6 days ago it started producing flowers 
after the whole tree was full of leaves. I am uploading both.
    Can any member throw some light on explanation for this.



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mani nair  wrote:

Dear friends,
Happy to inform you that the Gulmohar tree which was not flowering  has now 
started flowering.
Here are two photos. Sorry for the picture quality.

Regards,

Mani.

Re: [efloraofindia:68485] Re: moha and south moha

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H S
Pl. indicate the reference to support your conclusion
My information from all recent floras and two major databases GRIN & Kew
Plant List support Neil ji's conclusion

*Madhuca* *indica* J.F.Gmel. is a
synonym
 of *Madhuca* *longifolia* var. *latifolia*
(Roxb.)
 A.Chev. 


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM, H S  wrote:

> Madhuca indica is accepted name and M. longifolia var. latifolia is
> synonym..
> The foto above mentioned is of Madhuca indica and M. longifolia (Long leaf)
>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68486] Gulmohar Tree

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Neil ji
 I feel you are right. First is along the fence and second in the lawn.



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Neil Soares  wrote:

> Hi Prof. Singh,
>
>Would like to try to offer an explanation for this by taking an analogy
> from the Indian Laburnum.
>
>
>
>As I had stated in a previous mail :
>
>
>
> "Forgot to mention that people who plant a Cassia fistula tree in the
> centre of their lawns and expect it to flower in summer, are solely
> disappointed because the moisture from watering the lawn is a deterrent
> to the tree to flower."
>
>
>
> available at this link:
>
>
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/search?hl=en&group=indiantreepix&q=Cassia+fistula+Neil+Soares&qt_g=Search+this+group
>
>
>
> It is therefore possible that while the tree in the first photograph is
> behaving like any self-respecting Gulmohar should at the height of the
> summer season, the tree in the second photograph may be placed near a water
> source like an underground drain / tank or alternatively it may be receiving
> excessive watering by over-zealous gardeners.
>
>  Regards,
>
>Neil Soares.
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 4/30/11, Gurcharan Singh * wrote:
>
>
> From: Gurcharan Singh 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68437] Gulmohar Tree
> To: "mani nair" 
> Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:40 AM
>
>
> Interestingly I have two trees, one on either side of our building just 50
> feet away. One started flowering about 20 days back when leafless, and is
> now full of bloom. The leaves have just started to appear on lower branches.
>
> The second tree started producing new leaves but no flowers (both are good
> sized; almost same height). Only 5-6 days ago it started producing flowers
> after the whole tree was full of leaves. I am uploading both.
> Can any member throw some light on explanation for this.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mani nair 
> http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mani.na...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> Happy to inform you that the Gulmohar tree which was not flowering  has now
> started flowering.
> Here are two photos. Sorry for the picture quality.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68487] Flora of Mississippi, USA-002

[Gurcharan Singh]

Na Bha ji
Your first one is fine but you seem to have mixed up another species in next
three photographed. I have photographed it in California and will upload it
separately.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Na Bha  wrote:

>  Mein from Ritterhude. July 2010. Hope the ID is correct!
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Gurcharan Singh 
> *To:* Vijayasankar 
> *Cc:* indiatreepix 
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:45 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:68428] Flora of Mississippi, USA-002
>
> Mine from California, photographed 2009
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
>> The Honeysuckle, *Lonicera japonica* of Caprifoliaceae, from Mississippi.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68488] Wild plant for ID : 260411 : AK-3

[H S]

In Maharashtra 2 species of Chrozophora are found,, the foto is of
Chrozophora prostrata Dalz. & Gibs. syn. C. plicata Spreng.

and not C. rottleri syn. C. plicatum Voight.


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

[efloraofindia:68489] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[Mahadeswara]

Yes. You are right.  The horticulture experts'  advice in general :
withdraw water  at the time of  flowering initiation .Gulmohar
flowers profusely  in Mysore and Bangaolore, whereas in Chennai it is
not so and the flowering is not on time (May) . In fact in Mysore it
is called May flower. Excessive humidity  may be  a deterrent factor.

On Apr 30, 3:49 pm, Neil Soares  wrote:
> Hi Prof. Singh,
>    Would like to try to offer an explanation for this by taking an analogy 
> from the Indian Laburnum.
>  
>    As I had stated in a previous mail :
>  
> "Forgot to mention that people who plant a Cassia fistula tree in the centre 
> of their lawns and expect it to flower in summer, are solely disappointed 
> because the moisture from watering the lawn is a deterrent to the tree to 
> flower."
>
>  
> available at this link:
>  https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/search?hl=en&group=indi...
>  
> It is therefore possible that while the tree in the first photograph is 
> behaving like any self-respecting Gulmohar should at the height of the summer 
> season, the tree in the second photograph may be placed near a water source 
> like an underground drain / tank or alternatively it may be receiving 
> excessive watering by over-zealous gardeners.
>  Regards,
>    Neil Soares.
>
> --- On Sat, 4/30/11, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
>
> From: Gurcharan Singh 
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68437] Gulmohar Tree
> To: "mani nair" 
> Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:40 AM
>
> Interestingly I have two trees, one on either side of our building just 50 
> feet away. One started flowering about 20 days back when leafless, and is now 
> full of bloom. The leaves have just started to appear on lower branches.
> The second tree started producing new leaves but no flowers (both are good 
> sized; almost same height). Only 5-6 days ago it started producing flowers 
> after the whole tree was full of leaves. I am uploading both.
>     Can any member throw some light on explanation for this.
>
> -- 
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mani nair  wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> Happy to inform you that the Gulmohar tree which was not flowering  has now 
> started flowering.
> Here are two photos. Sorry for the picture quality.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mani.

Re: [efloraofindia:68490] pl conform

[H S]

minor spelling mistake its chelonoides not chelenoides

>


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:68491] Cyperus difformis from Tikkar Tal Lake, Morni

[H S]

Correct name for C. difformis is C. fuscus L. in 1753

anyhow this picture doesnt look like C. fuscus




-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:68492] 22042011GS1 Cyperus from Morni for ID

[H S]

It is Juncellus pygmaeus
rest is synonyms


-- 
 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:68493] Flora of Mississippi, USA-002

[Na Bha]

THanks, waiting to see your fotos.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gurcharan Singh 
  To: Na Bha 
  Cc: Vijayasankar ; indiatreepix 
  Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68428] Flora of Mississippi, USA-002


  Na Bha ji
  Your first one is fine but you seem to have mixed up another species in next 
three photographed. I have photographed it in California and will upload it 
separately.


  -- 
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 


  On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Na Bha  wrote:

Mein from Ritterhude. July 2010. Hope the ID is correct!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gurcharan Singh 
  To: Vijayasankar 
  Cc: indiatreepix 
  Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 7:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68428] Flora of Mississippi, USA-002


  Mine from California, photographed 2009 



  -- 
  Dr. Gurcharan Singh
  Retired  Associate Professor
  SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
  Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
  Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
  http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 


  On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Vijayasankar  
wrote:

The Honeysuckle, Lonicera japonica of Caprifoliaceae, from Mississippi.


Regards  

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi

Re: [efloraofindia:68494] Re: moha and south moha

[H S]

Sir ji
Madhuca indica Gmelin in 1791
Bassia latifolia Roxb. 1795
even if someone will change the rank.. it should go under var. indica not
latifolia

regards...

 - H.S.

A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
stone

Re: [efloraofindia:68495] Pink Cassia : Leafbirth

[renee vyas vyas]

Dear Viplav,

Thanks for sharing lovely pictures.

Regards,

Renee

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM, vipl...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> It is difficult to escape the allure of a Pink Cassia in flower but I found
> myself quietly smitten with the snug beauty of the new foliage ;-)
>
> Sharing some pictures of a Pink Cassia sprouting baby leaves with large
> stipules in Kandivali [North Mumbai]. The last two are mine and the first is
> clicked by my friend Hitendra Agrawal to whom I owe my initiation into
> occasional photography.
>
> Best wishes, Viplav
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68496] Wild plant for ID : 260411 : AK-3

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H S
Again reverse
C. prostrata Dalz. & Gibs is synonym of C. plicata (Vahl) A. Juss. ex
Spreng  according to recent databases


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:31 PM, H S  wrote:

> In Maharashtra 2 species of Chrozophora are found,, the foto is of
> Chrozophora prostrata Dalz. & Gibs. syn. C. plicata Spreng.
>
> and not C. rottleri syn. C. plicatum Voight.
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68497] Re: moha and south moha

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H. S.
A simple rule of ICBN
Principle of Priority is not applicable at different ranks.

The said plant is considered as variety of M. longifolia and as such
earliest trinomial at varietal level is M. longifolia var. latifolia (Roxb.)
A. Chev., 1943. At least no varietal combination under M. longifolia was
available up to 1943, based on M. indica Gmelin

I hope I have been able to present true picture.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, H S  wrote:

> Sir ji
> Madhuca indica Gmelin in 1791
> Bassia latifolia Roxb. 1795
> even if someone will change the rank.. it should go under var. indica not
> latifolia
>
> regards...
>
>
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68498] 22042011GS1 Cyperus from Morni for ID

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H S
I think this should satisfy you

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-237531

Kew Plant List is
published very recently in 2010 and whole World will follow it as standard
database for resolved taxa. I find no reason why we should not follow it.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:03 PM, H S  wrote:

>
> It is Juncellus pygmaeus
> rest is synonyms
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68499] Cyperus difformis from Tikkar Tal Lake, Morni

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear H S
C. difformis and C. fuscus are two distinct species as per Kew Plant List

http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-236342

It would be good if you inform us about your source as requested by other
members also.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 4:51 PM, H S  wrote:

> Correct name for C. difformis is C. fuscus L. in 1753
>
> anyhow this picture doesnt look like C. fuscus
>
>
>
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone
>
>

[efloraofindia:68501] The First Self Introduction a recipe for better communication and understanding

[Gurcharan Singh]

Dear members

Ours is a unique group in which members from different backgrounds interact
to exchange information about the plants being photographed and uploaded.
Where we have people like Vijayasankar ji, Tanay, Pankaj ji, Muthu ji,
Ritesh ji, Balkar ji, Nidhan ji (to name a few) who are hard core
taxonomists, we have Shrikant ji, Tabish ji, Dinesh ji, Prashant ji, Pravin
ji, Garg ji, who are not botanists but have gained lot of experience and
expertise about plants. We also have people like Yazdy ji and Neil ji who
have known plants intimately by virtually living among plants, Neil ji
having mixed this up with extreme expertise through friendship with Dr.
Almeida. All of us have one passion of photography, that binds us together.
While communicating with each other, it is important to maintain the
level of interaction keeping this background in mind. When interacting with
taxonomists we would use technical terms, botanical codes because we know
people understand these well. When interacting with non-botanists, we would
simplify these terms and try to explain in a language which these friends
can understand. Some of us mix this up small stories, talk of their folk use
and herbal remedies (we are lucky to have Dr. Pankj Oudyia), and all of us
usually keep this in mind while interacting. Those who don't, often find the
interaction unpleasant, as we have seen several times.
   It is always good and appropriate that when a new member joins the group,
he or she provides some detailed information so that other members know the
level of interaction with that member. I did that when I first joined the
group, not only that I also wrote individually to some members to know them
better for proper interaction.
I would also request that members recommending new persons to join the
group should provide (on their behalf) or reqyest the member to give first
self introduction to the group.

AND NOT TO FORGET CENTRAL MOTTO..MAINTAIN EXTREME CORDIALITY DURING
INTERACTIONS.





-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

Re: [efloraofindia:68502] 29042011PJ1 ID request

[Neil Soares]

Hi Prof.Singh, Dinesh & 'H.S',
   Agreed there is a bit of confusion in the local [Marathi / Hindi] names.
 
 Dr. Almeida in his 'Flora of Maharashtra' Vol 2 has confused matters even 
further. Accordingly :
 Holarrhena antidysentrica [ syn. H.pubescens - what I know as Safed Kuda] is 
Kuda
 Wrightia arborea [what I know as Tambda Kuda] is Dhordudha Kuda.
 Wrightia tinctoria [what I know as Kala Kuda] is Safed Kuda.
 Wrightia tinctoria var.rothii is Kala Kuda.
 
>From my experience in the field this is one area where I chose not to 
>follow Dr. Almeida's dictat.
 With regards,
  Neil Soares.

--- On Sat, 4/30/11, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:


From: Gurcharan Singh 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68471] 29042011PJ1 ID request
To: "H S" 
Cc: "tanay bose" , "ajinkya gadave" 
, "PUTTARAJU K" , 
"indiantreepix" 
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 2:16 PM


My information (Useful Plants of India, CSIR) is reverse, as rightly written by 
Neil ji and Ajinkya ji


Kala Kuda, Indrajau, mitha indrajau refer to Wrightia tinctoria


dola-kuda, pandhara-kuda, karwa indrajau, kadu indrajau refer to Holarrhena 
pubescens





-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 




On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, H S  wrote:

Dear all, its very much confusion in kala kuda and pandhra kuda the local 
marathi name..
Kala kuda is Holarrhena pubescens (bark dark colour)
Pandhra kuda or Dahi kuda is Wrightia tinctoria (bark whitish)
Infact in many marathi literature it has been confusing..

this foto is Wrightia tinctoria


-- 

 - H.S.


A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone

[efloraofindia:68503] Re: Pink Cassia : Leafbirth

[Pudji Widodo]

The flowers of this Cassia javanica L. are really beautiful.

Regards,
Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

Re: [efloraofindia:68504] Re: moha and south moha

[Pankaj Kumar]

Madhuca longifolia (J.Koenig) Macbr. var latifolia (Roxb.) Chevalier (1943)

Basionym: Bassia latifolia Roxb. (1795)

Other synonyms:
Madhuca latifolia (Roxb.) Macbr. (1918)
Madhuca indica J.F.Gmelin (1791)


Dr. Gurcharan is right when he says, "Principle of Priority is not
applicable at different ranks". This goes in accordance with the
Chapter II, Section 3, Article 11.2 of Vienna Code, which states, "In
no case does a name have priority outside the rank in which it is
published". Even they provide two examples:

---
Ex. 2. Magnolia virginiana var. foetida L. (1753) when raised to
specific rank is called M. grandiflora L. (1759), not M. foetida (L.)
Sarg. (1889).
Ex. 3. Lythrum intermedium Ledeb. (1822) when treated as a variety of
L. salicaria L. (1753) is called L. salicaria var. glabrum Ledeb. (Fl.
Ross. 2: 127. 1843), not L. salicaria var. intermedium (Ledeb.) Koehne
(in Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 1: 327. 1881).
-

There are some confusions on Kew's checklist as they show both M.
longifolia var. longifolia and M. longifolia but they are accompanied
with different synonyms. May be I should write to R. Govaerts about
it.

Thank you Gurcharan sir for digging into this simple yes complicated
nomenclature. I think we can start our homework on this issue to
gather more information to share with members.

Pankaj




On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Dear H. S.
> A simple rule of ICBN
> Principle of Priority is not applicable at different ranks.
> The said plant is considered as variety of M. longifolia and as such
> earliest trinomial at varietal level is M. longifolia var. latifolia (Roxb.)
> A. Chev., 1943. At least no varietal combination under M. longifolia was
> available up to 1943, based on M. indica Gmelin
> I hope I have been able to present true picture.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, H S  wrote:
>>
>> Sir ji
>> Madhuca indica Gmelin in 1791
>> Bassia latifolia Roxb. 1795
>> even if someone will change the rank.. it should go under var. indica not
>> latifolia
>>
>> regards...
>>
>>  - H.S.
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>
>
>
>



-- 
***
"TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India

Re: [itpmods:2553] Re: [efloraofindia:68505] 22042011GS1 Cyperus from Morni for ID

[Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Mr. H.S.
Again I agree here with Dr. Gurcharan.
The plant here is Cyperus michelianus subsp. pygmaeus (Rottb.) Asch. &
Graebn. as stated by him.
For your information, in present date, genus Juncellus has been merged
back into Cyperus and is considered as one of the subgenus.

Reference
Govaerts, R. (2004). World Checklist of Monocotyledons Database in
ACCESS: 1-54382. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens,
Kew. [as Cyperus]
Govaerts, R. & Simpson, D.A. (2007). World Checklist of Cyperaceae.
Sedges: 1-765. The Board of Trustees of the Royal Botanic Gardens,
Kew. [as Cyperus]

Hope this helps.
Pankaj




On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Dear H S
> I think this should satisfy you
> http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-237531
> Kew Plant List is published very recently in 2010 and whole World will
> follow it as standard database for resolved taxa. I find no reason why we
> should not follow it.
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:03 PM, H S  wrote:
>>
>> It is Juncellus pygmaeus
>> rest is synonyms
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>
>
>
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***
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Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India

Re: [efloraofindia:68506] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[mani nair]

Thanks all for the appreciation. Gurcharanji your tree flowers are very
beautiful.  My tree produced the flowers for the first time after its
planting ten years ago.  I had lost the hope only to see it flowering, but
said to myself why if no flowers, the tree itself is beautiful and on a
morning I saw small flower buds on its branches.   As said by Mr. Neil there
is no water body near to it. I think there are two huge bottle palms on its
sides which hampered its growth.

Regards,

Mani.

[efloraofindia:68507] Re: ID No. 29042011 RD15

[Pudji Widodo]

What about Barleria prionitis

Regards,
Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

Re: [efloraofindia:68512] kalatope id al290411

[Alok Mahendroo]

I do realise the problem Gurcharan ji... the problem is that most of the
time when I have taken these photos.. I am usually on the move in the
field... working in the villages.. and often there is not much time I
can spare for the flowers except quickly snap off a few photographs..
will try to locate this one and take the close up of the styles again
regards
Alok
On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 07:02 +0530, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
> Can we have another close up. The styles are difficult to count in
> this flower.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Gurcharan Singh 
> wrote:
> Alok ji
> You seem to be missing vital information. Photographs can be
> misleading, especially close ups unless you mention the size
> (leaves, flowers--length and dia), habitat, size of the plant
> and a few other things.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Alok Mahendroo
>  wrote:
> Dear friends,
> The forest is full of various small flowers.. this is
> one of them.. to
> my untrained eyes they all looked the same and when I
> look again they
> seem different... anyhow here's this..
> 
> Location Kalatope, Chamba
> Altitude 2100 mts
> Habit herb
> Habitat wild
> Height 3-4 inches
> 
> regards
> Alok
> --
> Himalayan Village Education Trust
> Village Khudgot,
> P.O. Dalhousie
> District Chamba
> H.P. 176304, India
> www.hive.interconnection.org
> www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
> www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
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Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India
www.hive.interconnection.org
www.hivetrust.wordpress.com 
www.forwildlife.wordpress.com 

[efloraofindia:68514] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

Some times, even if the plant is in shade during most of the day time
wont flower, if it is a summer flowering. Then when the path of sun
changes by time, the plant flowers.
Thanks for sharing the info.
Regards
Pankaj


On Apr 30, 4:02 pm, Mahadeswara  wrote:
> Yes. You are right.  The horticulture experts'  advice in general :
> withdraw water  at the time of  flowering initiation .    Gulmohar
> flowers profusely  in Mysore and Bangaolore, whereas in Chennai it is
> not so and the flowering is not on time (May) . In fact in Mysore it
> is called May flower. Excessive humidity  may be  a deterrent factor.
>
> On Apr 30, 3:49 pm, Neil Soares  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Prof. Singh,
> >    Would like to try to offer an explanation for this by taking an analogy 
> > from the Indian Laburnum.
> >  
> >    As I had stated in a previous mail :
> >  
> > "Forgot to mention that people who plant a Cassia fistula tree in the 
> > centre of their lawns and expect it to flower in summer, are solely 
> > disappointed because the moisture from watering the lawn is a deterrent 
> > to the tree to flower."
>
> >  
> > available at this link:
> >  https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/search?hl=en&group=indi...
> >  
> > It is therefore possible that while the tree in the first photograph is 
> > behaving like any self-respecting Gulmohar should at the height of the 
> > summer season, the tree in the second photograph may be placed near a water 
> > source like an underground drain / tank or alternatively it may 
> > be receiving excessive watering by over-zealous gardeners.
> >  Regards,
> >    Neil Soares.
>
> > --- On Sat, 4/30/11, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
>
> > From: Gurcharan Singh 
> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:68437] Gulmohar Tree
> > To: "mani nair" 
> > Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:40 AM
>
> > Interestingly I have two trees, one on either side of our building just 50 
> > feet away. One started flowering about 20 days back when leafless, and is 
> > now full of bloom. The leaves have just started to appear on lower branches.
> > The second tree started producing new leaves but no flowers (both are good 
> > sized; almost same height). Only 5-6 days ago it started producing flowers 
> > after the whole tree was full of leaves. I am uploading both.
> >     Can any member throw some light on explanation for this.
>
> > -- 
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
>
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, mani nair  wrote:
>
> > Dear friends,
> > Happy to inform you that the Gulmohar tree which was not flowering  has now 
> > started flowering.
> > Here are two photos. Sorry for the picture quality.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Mani.

Re: [efloraofindia:68515] Request for ID : 300411 : AK-1

[Aarti S. Khale]

Nidhan ji,
Ajinkya ji has written to me it could be Alternenthara.
Aarti

On 4/30/11, Nidhan Singh  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A wild guess. Can this be a Daphne species?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dr. Nidhan Singh
> Department of Botany
> I.B. (PG) College
> Panipat-132103 Haryana
> Ph.: 09416371227
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68516] Grass week: 081210GS1 a grass for ID from Delhi

[Anil Kumar]

*it is Sorghum halepense.*--
regards
Dr.Anil Kumar

Re: [efloraofindia:68518] Verbenaceae shrub for ID 300411MK2

[Nidhan Singh]

Muthu Ji,

Is it not a Buddleja species? may be Buddleja davidii?

-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

Re: [efloraofindia:68519] Request for ID : 300411 : AK-1

[Nidhan Singh]

Aarti ji,

It was a mere guess from my side. May be Ajinkya ji have pointed
towards a correct id. Alternanthera cannot be ruled out.
-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

[efloraofindia:68522] Re: 18122006VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Pankaj Kumar]

Dear Mr. Vijay,
V. coerulea will have those dark blue tessellated markings on the light blue
or whitish petals and sepals, which will be absent in V. coerulescens.
Pankaj


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Vijay Anand Ismavel
wrote:

> Could you please tell me the difference between Vanda coerulea and
> coerulescens - just out of interest. What are the points to identify an
> orchid as V.coerulea ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay
>
> --- On *Sat, 30/4/11, Pankaj Kumar * wrote:
>
>
> From: Pankaj Kumar 
> Subject: Re: 18122006VAI1 - Orchid for ID
> To: "Vijay Anand Ismavel" , "indiantreepix" <
> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, "Neil Soares" 
> Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 10:36 AM
>
> No this is not Vanda coerulea.
> This could be either some hybrid or very close to Vanda coerulescens.
> Pankaj
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Vijay Anand Ismavel
> http://mc/compose?to=ivijayan...@yahoo.in>> wrote:
> > Sorry, I have posted the picture. Could you confirm that it is the
> > Blue Vanda - Vanda coerulea ? - Regards, Vijay
> >
> > On Apr 29, 12:49 am, Pankaj Kumar 
> > http://mc/compose?to=sahanipan...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> :P
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Vijayasankar 
> >> http://mc/compose?to=vijay.botan...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> > ya, Dr.Pankaj can id any orchid. but he needs at least a picture, i
> guess ;)
> >>
> >> > Regards
> >>
> >> > Vijayasankar Raman
> >> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> >> > University of Mississippi
> >>
> >> > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar <
> sahanipan...@gmail.com >
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> ya, no flower either, infact there is no picture :P...
> >> >> Pankaj
> >>
> >> >> On Apr 28, 7:37 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel 
> >> >> http://mc/compose?to=ivijayan...@yahoo.in>>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Unfortunately no leaves and stem on this orchid picture.
> >>
> >> >> > Location: Dimapur, Nagaland
> >>
> >> >> > Date: 18th December 2006
> >>
> >> --
> >> ***
> >> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
> >>
> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> >> Research Associate
> >> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> >> Department of Habitat Ecology
> >> Wildlife Institute of India
> >> Post Box # 18
> >> Dehradun - 248001, India
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ***
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India
>
>


-- 
***
"TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India

[efloraofindia:68523] Re: 28062010VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

Thanks a lot for sharing. Is it flowering currently in Corbett!!!
This is Aerides multiflora.
Thanks for sharing...
Pankaj

On Apr 30, 9:33 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel  wrote:
> Unidentified Orchid
>
> Location: Corbett National Park, Uttaranchal
>
> Date: 28th June 2010
>
>  Corbett Flowers-1A.jpg
> 204KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68524] Re: 28062010VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

aaah, sorry sorry, I didnt see the date...
Pankaj

On Apr 30, 9:33 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel  wrote:
> Unidentified Orchid
>
> Location: Corbett National Park, Uttaranchal
>
> Date: 28th June 2010
>
>  Corbett Flowers-1A.jpg
> 204KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68525] Re: 07012010VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Dr Pankaj Kumar]

I am looking at this after such a long long time.
This should be Acampe ochracea (Lindl.) Hochr.. Will it be possible
for someone to send some flower samples of these.
Thanks for sharing.
Regards
Pankaj


On Apr 30, 9:31 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel  wrote:
> Unidentified Orchid - growing wild
>
> Location: Makunda Christian Hospital campus, Karimganj District, Assam
>
> Date: 7th January 2010
>
>  Makunda Flowers-113A.jpg
> 168KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68526] Re: 07012010VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Vijay Anand Ismavel]

This orchid was flowering just outside my home last year. Shall check
in the morning - I don't think it is flowering now. - Vijay

On Apr 30, 9:53 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> I am looking at this after such a long long time.
> This should be Acampe ochracea (Lindl.) Hochr.. Will it be possible
> for someone to send some flower samples of these.
> Thanks for sharing.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
> On Apr 30, 9:31 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Unidentified Orchid - growing wild
>
> > Location: Makunda Christian Hospital campus, Karimganj District, Assam
>
> > Date: 7th January 2010
>
> >  Makunda Flowers-113A.jpg
> > 168KViewDownload

Re: [efloraofindia:68527] 30042011 PJ1 ID request

[Neil Soares]

Hi,
 This is Gendal [Cissus repanda]. Please check the archives of this group for 
my photographs of this.
 Regards,
  Neil Soares.

--- On Sat, 4/30/11, PUTTARAJU K  wrote:


From: PUTTARAJU K 
Subject: [efloraofindia:68511] 30042011 PJ1 ID request
To: "indiantreepix" 
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 8:12 PM




 Dear All,

Please see attached climber specially seen fruiting  in the month of March-May. 
You can witness both ripe & unripe fruit which is dark purple and green in 
colour respectively.  ID requested.
 
Date/Time-: 30/04/11   -     08:30

Location- Place, Altitude - Kaiga , Uttar Kannada ,Karnataka, 380 mtrs

Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-    Wild

Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb - Climber

Height/Length- 20m
-- With Regards,
PUTTARAJU K,
SCIENTIFIC OFFICER,
KAIGA ATOMIC POWER PLANT,
POST-KAIGA, U.K.DISTRICT,
KARNATAKA -581400
MOB : 9448999150
EMAIL : pakshirajka...@gmail.com
             kputtar...@npcil.co.in

[efloraofindia:68529] Re: 24042011GS2 perhaps Ruellia for ID from Tikkar tal Lake, Morni

[Hemanth]

Dipteracanthis prostrata


On Apr 30, 3:24 pm, H S  wrote:
> Also check with Dipteracanthus sps. doesnt look like Ruellia
>
> --
>  - H.S.
>
> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> stone

[efloraofindia:68530] Over 38,000 Films and Film Strips on Biodiversity

[Pankaj Oudhia]

Dear Group Members,

   I am in process of making films and film strips from CGBD database on
Biodiversity online. Now over 770 films and film strips are online through
Youtube. There are much variations in topics. Over 100 hours of films are
online.

I am giving some examples. Starting with Orchid Guru Dr.Sahani's favorite.

>From Mother Nature's Experimental Fields. 5. Tendu and Ficus with
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**
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--
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* 
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* 
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* 
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[efloraofindia:68531] Re: Pink Cassia : Leafbirth

[Ushadi micromini]

Love it.
Usha di

On Apr 30, 11:28 am, "vipl...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> It is difficult to escape the allure of a Pink Cassia in flower but I found
> myself quietly smitten with the snug beauty of the new foliage ;-)
>
> Sharing some pictures of a Pink Cassia sprouting baby leaves with large
> stipules in Kandivali [North Mumbai]. The last two are mine and the first is
> clicked by my friend Hitendra Agrawal to whom I owe my initiation into
> occasional photography.
>
> Best wishes, Viplav
>
>  01.jpg
> 34KViewDownload
>
>  02.jpg
> 29KViewDownload
>
>  03.jpg
> 30KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68532] Re: Cultivating a green world ... at home (#1) | ID Req 30Apr2011AR01

[Ushadi micromini]

Nice colors...
never seen red lima beans though ...
anymore flowers? can there be close ups of flowers?
I personally find many such beans very confusing to id, esp if the
owner says it just came up on its own...
usha di

===

On Apr 30, 6:03 pm, raghu ananth  wrote:
> Cultivating a green world ... at home (#1) | ID Req 30Apr2011AR01
>
> Date/Time-14 Jan 2011 09.19AM
> Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Krishnarajanagar, Mysore dist.
> Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-, Garden, Wild growth
> Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb - Climber
> Height/Length-approx - 15feet, 25 feet approx
> Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Shape - 8 cms, 3 leaflets,
> Inflorescence Type/ Size-
> Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts - White, 1-2cms, 3 seeds when
> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- legume, 2 cms,
> Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-
>
> Phaseolus lunatus - Lima beans  ?
>
> Regards
>
> Raghu
>
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[efloraofindia:68533] Re: Flora of Mississippi, USA-002

[Ushadi micromini]

Dear all:
In Connecticut and neighboring counties in NY this is considered
extremely invasive, and we volunteered three summers to remove them
lock stock and roots from river banks and native woodlands and
conservancies, along with other invasive species... in mid 90s..I
think in this case we had moderate success ... local flora got space
to grow and thrive..
  And YET  in other parts of the country they are still being planted
as ground cover and as ornamental ... go figure !!!

Yet, many of us do love the flowers and paint them, photograph them,
and watch hummingbirds hover
Usha di
=

On Apr 30, 10:45 am, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> Mine from California, photographed 2009
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Vijayasankar wrote:
>
> > The Honeysuckle, *Lonicera japonica* of Caprifoliaceae, from Mississippi.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
>
>
>
>  Lonicera-japonica-California-1.jpg
> 230KViewDownload
>
>  Lonicera-japonica-California-2.jpg
> 274KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68534] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[Ushadi micromini]

Dear All:
Regarding FLOWERING TIME of Gulmohar:
I have six trees on the street visible from all windows in my home...
one sets a few flowers in end of march, fills up by April 15th, one
behind it starts in april, fills up in end of april, 3rd and 4th are
half way red by end of april and the last two flower in may, mid may
to be precise... I note these dates because I am slowly developing
allergic conjunctivitis to Krishnachura pollen...this long pollen
season is not fun.

These are mature trees, at their tallest,(( their branches are
beginning to get that weird J shapes sometimes when they get too
long))... so they are upto 4th 5th floor balconies and windows...
this sequence of flowering has been maintained for last
decade.they are street trees, part dirt, part pavement... all get
the same rain, and same sustained heat from the building cement...
and same abuse from pollution, horns, junk thrown, people sitting
leaning on their trunks,.  and same air humidity.. and same
sunlight ...

 Since KMC (Kolkata corporation its department for such trees) planted
them at the same time, they came from the same nursery untill a
few years ago they were purchased I am told at one rupee per chara...
so was cheapest to plant... hence so frequently planted 

Yet there might be some genetic variation  and a reason for flowering
at different times 

I have yet to discover it...

Additionally I dont think its the water quantity... there is one on a
lake shore and a bridge,  over which I drive everyday, it flowers
profusely.. starting first week in April... and now its completely
laden...  Dhakuria lake and its surrounding parks, land, and streets
were full of Delonix regia trees, and they were the biggest casualty
of Hurricane Aila in 2009...  they were the most commonly toppled
tree... and where damage was done, this tree did the worst

AND PEOPLE ARE VERY ATTACHED to the red flowers and they think its the
pride of the place... including myself...and in Bengal we have a very
romantic name for it:   KRISHNACHURA.. who won't love the name and
its owner???

BUT this tree should be restricted for planting ITS invasive, its
fills the streets and hence sewer with zillions of leaves (hence help
street flooding), no birds other than crows nest in them... ( and you
know crows will nest anywhere) .. no animal is seen (at least in my
urban jungle) eating the seeds , the only animal I see that has any
use for the seeds is the poor womenfolk of the neighborhood who
collect fallen pods with their seeds for burning with wood for
cooking, the seeds have thick oil difficult to express out but ok
as fire fuel I guess...  Its the most common tree to topple in
hurricanes and kaal baisakhi storms, so common right now in
Calcutta... Its wood turns an orangeish red exposed to air, and not
really very useful in making furniture of any quality or durability...
no carpenter worth his salt wanted to buy the toppled gulmohur teers.
((They made beeliine for some other trees..))... we saw street
dwellers slowly hacking away this wood for their street chulas...

Its myriad seeds find disturbed land even broken sidewalk
hospitable , and they sprout and grow... can not be transplanted if
the root breaks even a little while trying, roots go very deep very
quickly...  so I imagine when it self seeds in countryside it can play
havoc

I HOPE I HAVE NOT SERIOUSLY DISTURBED GULMOHUR LOVERS ( I am
one)  ...but we must learn to temper that love and think of value
added urban landscape  I would love to see birds other than just
crows, and native species like neem, mango, kathal, aswatha, bot and a
hundred others  thrive...  in a lively mix... so not plant any new
gulmohurs till some sane plan is made up

Usha di
==





On Apr 30, 8:01 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> Some times, even if the plant is in shade during most of the day time
> wont flower, if it is a summer flowering. Then when the path of sun
> changes by time, the plant flowers.
> Thanks for sharing the info.
> Regards
> Pankaj
>
> On Apr 30, 4:02 pm, Mahadeswara  wrote:
>
> > Yes. You are right.  The horticulture experts'  advice in general :
> > withdraw water  at the time of  flowering initiation .    Gulmohar
> > flowers profusely  in Mysore and Bangaolore, whereas in Chennai it is
> > not so and the flowering is not on time (May) . In fact in Mysore it
> > is called May flower. Excessive humidity  may be  a deterrent factor.
>
> > On Apr 30, 3:49 pm, Neil Soares  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Prof. Singh,
> > >    Would like to try to offer an explanation for this by taking an 
> > > analogy from the Indian Laburnum.
> > >  
> > >    As I had stated in a previous mail :
> > >  
> > > "Forgot to mention that people who plant a Cassia fistula tree in the 
> > > centre of their lawns and expect it to flower in summer, are solely 
> > > disappointed because the moisture from watering the lawn is a deterrent 
> > > to the tree to flower."
>
> > >  
> > > available

[efloraofindia:68535] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[Ushadi micromini]

Dear Dr Oudhia: I am very disturbed to hear this, but am glad you
wrote it and I read it... I will add this to my data for why not
to plant Gulmohur.. I have been (like the zillion Calcuttans) in love
with these  flowers and even wrote about that love 20 years ago and
published... now as I looks at it carefully and unbiased viewits
one of the least useful trees in urban landscape... I wrote a few
things about it above, addressed as Dear All please read it.. and
comment...

Gulmohar is not new to birds in Kolkata, but they do not eat it...
whether familiar or not...
seeds I guess are just not edible or digestibleits oil content may
be purgative or not digested... I do not know...

In USA, Australia, some EU countries, some Pacific countries make
lists of invasive species and  make a plan to eradicate or control
them... do we in India have such lists and plans?

Protecting native ayurvedic herbs must be a top priority... so this
question might get attention

By the way for last ten years or so I have been reading your essays,
notes etc on Botany dot com... very nice, useful...
Thanks
Usha di


on Apr 30, 12:45 pm, Pankaj Oudhia  wrote:
>  What are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? © Pankaj Oudhia Till few months
> back this hill was rich in Boswellia population. The Traditional Healers
> visit to this hill for collection of Boswellia plant parts in bulk but
> without affecting its natural population. Now this Hill is under influence
> of "Dongar Mafia". There is an effort to capture the hill as well as its
> forest in the name of religion. Forest trees are decreasing and Gulmohar
> like trees are under promotion. Gulmohar is new tree for birds and other
> forest creatures. Hence they are migrating to other places. That's why I am
> asking that what are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? You can see
> Boswellia tree in background of Gulmohar flowers.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3O3iUGWClQ
>
> Lady in Red: Gulmohar in Summer-1 © Pankaj 
> Oudhiahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB8uQeCM2Y
>
> regards
>
> Pankaj Oudhia
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> > Endangered in Madagascar [where it is native]; exotic in India
>
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, H S  wrote:
>
> >> As it is exotic tree.. how it can be endangered in Wild...
>
> >> --
> >>  - H.S.
>
> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
> >> stone
>
> > --
> > Muthu Karthick, N
> > Care Earth Trust
> > #15, second main road,
> > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > Chennai - 600 061
> > Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> >www.careearthtrust.org

[efloraofindia:68536] Re: Verbenaceae shrub for ID 300411MK2

[Ushadi micromini]

I do not think this is buddleja...
usha di



 30, 9:27 pm, Nidhan Singh  wrote:
> Muthu Ji,
>
> Is it not a Buddleja species? may be Buddleja davidii?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dr. Nidhan Singh
> Department of Botany
> I.B. (PG) College
> Panipat-132103 Haryana
> Ph.: 09416371227

[efloraofindia:68537] Re: Rhododendron for ID 300411MK1

[Ushadi micromini]

AZALEA.
usha di

On Apr 30, 12:32 pm, Muthu Karthick  wrote:
> Dear all,
> Please help to id this Rhododendron found in a garden. I have also seen this
> plant in parts of Ooty, Nilgiris.
>
>  *Date/Time-*
>
> 09-04-2011 / 04:30 PM
>
> *Location- Place, Altitude, GP*
>
> ca.2000asl; Kotagiri, TN
>
> *Habitat-** Garden**/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-*
>
> garden
>
> *Plant Habit-*
> shrub
>
> *Height/Length-*
>
> 1 - 1.5 cm long
>
> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-*
>
> ca.8 x 3 cm; tomentose
>
> *Inflorescence Type/ Size-*
>
> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-*
>
> red; c 8 cm long
>
> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- *
> not observed
>
> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
>
> --
> Muthu Karthick, N
> Care Earth Trust
> #15, second main road,
> Thillai ganga nagar,
> Chennai - 600 061
> Mob: 0091 96268 33911www.careearthtrust.org
>
>  Rhododendron (1).jpg
> 203KViewDownload
>
>  Rhododendron.jpg
> 203KViewDownload

[efloraofindia:68538] Re: Flora of Mississippi, USA-001

[Ushadi micromini]

Deear All:
Nice flowers and very nice photography... Dr. Raman and Tanay..
in NY its called tulip tree ( not to be mistaken for the yellow
flowered tulip tree: * Liriodendron tulipifera*  )...
NY Bot garden as in Bronx bot garden (the same thing) has a grove of
many varieties, all flowering just about now... worth at least one
visit if you happen to be in NY for april

 a Sight to behold and store away for a life time...
Usha di

On Apr 30, 12:05 pm, Vijayasankar  wrote:
> This is the 'State Flower' for both Mississippi and Louisiana states.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
> > Thanks Tanay and Vijayasankar ji
>
> > I missed this one.
>
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> >http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Vijayasankar 
> > wrote:
>
> >> Thank you Tanay, nice catch...
>
> >> Regards
>
> >> Vijayasankar Raman
> >> National Center for Natural Products Research
> >> University of Mississippi
>
> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:27 PM, tanay bose wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Vijaya Ji,
> >>> Some picture of the same plant from Vancouver.
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Tanay
>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Vijayasankar 
> >>> wrote:
>
>  Dear friends,
>
>  *Magnolia lilliflora*, an ornamental plant, from Mississippi.
>
>  Regards
>
>  Vijayasankar Raman
>  National Center for Natural Products Research
>  University of Mississippi
>
> >>> --
> >>> *Tanay Bose*
> >>> Research Assistant & Teaching Assistant.
> >>> Department of Botany.
> >>> University of British Columbia .
> >>> 3529-6270 University Blvd.
> >>> Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
> >>> Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
> >>>            604-822-2019 (Lab)
> >>>            604-822-6089  (Fax)
> >>> ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
> >>> *Webpages:*
> >>>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
> >>>http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
> >>>https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/

[efloraofindia:68539] Re: Flora of Mississippi, USA-003

[Ushadi micromini]

Dr Raman and Dr Gurucharan ji:
This is  very commonly planted street tree in some  neighborhoods...in
NY.. and in Connecticut... called sweetgum... the leaves are unique,
and the seepods scratchy to say the least...

Leaves turn kinda brown in NY but its bright orangeish red in CT

And Dr Gurucharanji...1000? wow... cant wait to see 
Usha di

===


On Apr 30, 8:27 am, Vijayasankar  wrote:
> *Liquidambar styraciflua *is indigenous in N.America, and also commonly
> planted as an ornamental. The tree at present is in flowering and I shall
> send the pictures soon.
>
> Regards
>
> Vijayasankar Raman
> National Center for Natural Products Research
> University of Mississippi
>
>  Liquidambar styraciflua (2).JPG
> 135KViewDownload
>
>  Liquidambar styraciflua (6).JPG
> 74KViewDownload

Re: [efloraofindia:68540] Tree for ID : 281210 : AK-1

[Vijayasankar]

Thanks H.S. ji for correcting me. Now i feel this is *Kopsia arborea* based
on solitary drupes which turn bluish black on ripening (both unripe and ripe
fruits seen in the picture), corymbose inflorescence and narrow
corolla-lobes.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tgerus/4109253500/

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Dinesh Valke wrote:

> ... to me, the centre of flower resembles that of *Vinca* species ... may
> be far away from actual genus.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, H S  wrote:
>
>> Ixora has 4 petals, here clearly 5... look like any of Apocynaceae flower
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>  - H.S.
>>
>> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of
>> stone
>>
>>
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68541] Re: Flora of Mississippi, USA-003

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Usha di
You know when I visited USA in 2008 and saw it for the first time, Platanus
and Acer (maple) came to my mind, leaves of maple and infl. of Platanus,
till I finally got it identified through TAXACOM Group.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ushadi micromini
wrote:

> Dr Raman and Dr Gurucharan ji:
> This is  very commonly planted street tree in some  neighborhoods...in
> NY.. and in Connecticut... called sweetgum... the leaves are unique,
> and the seepods scratchy to say the least...
>
> Leaves turn kinda brown in NY but its bright orangeish red in CT
>
> And Dr Gurucharanji...1000? wow... cant wait to see 
> Usha di
>
> ===
>
>
> On Apr 30, 8:27 am, Vijayasankar  wrote:
> > *Liquidambar styraciflua *is indigenous in N.America, and also commonly
> > planted as an ornamental. The tree at present is in flowering and I shall
> > send the pictures soon.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Vijayasankar Raman
> > National Center for Natural Products Research
> > University of Mississippi
> >
> >  Liquidambar styraciflua (2).JPG
> > 135KViewDownload
> >
> >  Liquidambar styraciflua (6).JPG
> > 74KViewDownload

Re: [efloraofindia:68542] Re: Verbenaceae shrub for ID 300411MK2

[Gurcharan Singh]

Not B. davidii, at least



-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Ushadi micromini
wrote:

> I do not think this is buddleja...
> usha di
>
>
>
>  30, 9:27 pm, Nidhan Singh  wrote:
> > Muthu Ji,
> >
> > Is it not a Buddleja species? may be Buddleja davidii?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dr. Nidhan Singh
> > Department of Botany
> > I.B. (PG) College
> > Panipat-132103 Haryana
> > Ph.: 09416371227
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68544] Re: 24042011GS2 perhaps Ruellia for ID from Tikkar tal Lake, Morni

[Gurcharan Singh]

Thanks H S for the lead. Thanks Hemant ji for confirming as Dipteracanthus
prostratus


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Hemanth  wrote:

> Dipteracanthis prostrata
>
>
> On Apr 30, 3:24 pm, H S  wrote:
> > Also check with Dipteracanthus sps. doesnt look like Ruellia
> >
> > --
> >  - H.S.
> >
> > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> of
> > stone
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68545] Re: Verbenaceae shrub for ID 300411MK2

[Vijayasankar]

*Aloysia triphylla*. Cultivated (espl. in high altitudes) for leaves used as
tea.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Not B. davidii, at least
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Ushadi micromini <
> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I do not think this is buddleja...
>> usha di
>>
>>
>>
>>  30, 9:27 pm, Nidhan Singh  wrote:
>> > Muthu Ji,
>> >
>> > Is it not a Buddleja species? may be Buddleja davidii?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Dr. Nidhan Singh
>> > Department of Botany
>> > I.B. (PG) College
>> > Panipat-132103 Haryana
>> > Ph.: 09416371227
>>
>
>
>
>

[efloraofindia:68546] Re: Gulmohar Tree

[Pankaj Oudhia]

Thanks for your comments. For my friends in Madagascar Delonix is valuable
medicinal plant.

Living with this exotic species from long time, innovative young Traditional
Healers of India have started experimenting with it. When I documented new
findings of these Healers which were not known even in Madagascar, the
researchers showed interest to visit India and interact the Healers.

When I was preparing a report on Antioxidant Herbs I found the name of
Gulmohar in Top 100 Antioxidants herbs of the world. There are plus and
minus sides of all species.

If you are sure that you are allergic to Delonix then without any delay
consult the Homoeopath. He will prepare medicine from Delonix itself which
will cure you forever. Similia Simlibus Curantur is root of Homoeopathy.
"Parthenium Hysterophorus" is valuable medicine in Homoeopathy and used to
manage Parthenium allergy successfully.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:42 AM, Ushadi micromini
wrote:

> Dear Dr Oudhia: I am very disturbed to hear this, but am glad you
> wrote it and I read it... I will add this to my data for why not
> to plant Gulmohur.. I have been (like the zillion Calcuttans) in love
> with these  flowers and even wrote about that love 20 years ago and
> published... now as I looks at it carefully and unbiased viewits
> one of the least useful trees in urban landscape... I wrote a few
> things about it above, addressed as Dear All please read it.. and
> comment...
>
> Gulmohar is not new to birds in Kolkata, but they do not eat it...
> whether familiar or not...
> seeds I guess are just not edible or digestibleits oil content may
> be purgative or not digested... I do not know...
>
> In USA, Australia, some EU countries, some Pacific countries make
> lists of invasive species and  make a plan to eradicate or control
> them... do we in India have such lists and plans?
>
> Protecting native ayurvedic herbs must be a top priority... so this
> question might get attention
>
> By the way for last ten years or so I have been reading your essays,
> notes etc on Botany dot com... very nice, useful...
> Thanks
> Usha di
>
>
> on Apr 30, 12:45 pm, Pankaj Oudhia  wrote:
> >  What are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? © Pankaj Oudhia Till few
> months
> > back this hill was rich in Boswellia population. The Traditional Healers
> > visit to this hill for collection of Boswellia plant parts in bulk but
> > without affecting its natural population. Now this Hill is under
> influence
> > of "Dongar Mafia". There is an effort to capture the hill as well as its
> > forest in the name of religion. Forest trees are decreasing and Gulmohar
> > like trees are under promotion. Gulmohar is new tree for birds and other
> > forest creatures. Hence they are migrating to other places. That's why I
> am
> > asking that what are you doing in Forest Dear Gulmohar? You can see
> > Boswellia tree in background of Gulmohar flowers.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3O3iUGWClQ
> >
> > Lady in Red: Gulmohar in Summer-1 © Pankaj Oudhiahttp://
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMB8uQeCM2Y
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Pankaj Oudhia
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Muthu Karthick 
> wrote:
> > > Endangered in Madagascar [where it is native]; exotic in India
> >
> > > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, H S  wrote:
> >
> > >> As it is exotic tree.. how it can be endangered in Wild...
> >
> > >> --
> > >>  - H.S.
> >
> > >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere
> heart of
> > >> stone
> >
> > > --
> > > Muthu Karthick, N
> > > Care Earth Trust
> > > #15, second main road,
> > > Thillai ganga nagar,
> > > Chennai - 600 061
> > > Mob: 0091 96268 33911
> > >www.careearthtrust.org
>

Re: [efloraofindia:68547] Re: moha and south moha

[Gurcharan Singh]

Yes Dr. Pankaj,  I had already written to the KEW List on a few matters
where things are so clear yet they have written basionym as synonym of one
and the combination based on this basionym as unresolved or synonym of some
other name. I hope things will get sorted soon.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Pankaj Kumar wrote:

> Madhuca longifolia (J.Koenig) Macbr. var latifolia (Roxb.) Chevalier (1943)
>
> Basionym: Bassia latifolia Roxb. (1795)
>
> Other synonyms:
> Madhuca latifolia (Roxb.) Macbr. (1918)
> Madhuca indica J.F.Gmelin (1791)
>
>
> Dr. Gurcharan is right when he says, "Principle of Priority is not
> applicable at different ranks". This goes in accordance with the
> Chapter II, Section 3, Article 11.2 of Vienna Code, which states, "In
> no case does a name have priority outside the rank in which it is
> published". Even they provide two examples:
>
> ---
> Ex. 2. Magnolia virginiana var. foetida L. (1753) when raised to
> specific rank is called M. grandiflora L. (1759), not M. foetida (L.)
> Sarg. (1889).
> Ex. 3. Lythrum intermedium Ledeb. (1822) when treated as a variety of
> L. salicaria L. (1753) is called L. salicaria var. glabrum Ledeb. (Fl.
> Ross. 2: 127. 1843), not L. salicaria var. intermedium (Ledeb.) Koehne
> (in Bot. Jahrb. Syst. 1: 327. 1881).
> -
>
> There are some confusions on Kew's checklist as they show both M.
> longifolia var. longifolia and M. longifolia but they are accompanied
> with different synonyms. May be I should write to R. Govaerts about
> it.
>
> Thank you Gurcharan sir for digging into this simple yes complicated
> nomenclature. I think we can start our homework on this issue to
> gather more information to share with members.
>
> Pankaj
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
> wrote:
> > Dear H. S.
> > A simple rule of ICBN
> > Principle of Priority is not applicable at different ranks.
> > The said plant is considered as variety of M. longifolia and as such
> > earliest trinomial at varietal level is M. longifolia var. latifolia
> (Roxb.)
> > A. Chev., 1943. At least no varietal combination under M. longifolia was
> > available up to 1943, based on M. indica Gmelin
> > I hope I have been able to present true picture.
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> > Retired  Associate Professor
> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, H S  wrote:
> >>
> >> Sir ji
> >> Madhuca indica Gmelin in 1791
> >> Bassia latifolia Roxb. 1795
> >> even if someone will change the rank.. it should go under var. indica
> not
> >> latifolia
> >>
> >> regards...
> >>
> >>  - H.S.
> >> A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart
> of
> >> stone
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ***
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India
>

[efloraofindia:68548] Re: 28062010VAI1 - Orchid for ID

[Pankaj Kumar]

Just to correct.
This can be  Vanda coerulea if the diameter of the flower is more than
4cm. If less then it should be Vanda coerulescens.
Pankaj

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Vijay Anand Ismavel
 wrote:
>
> Ok. I am not sure - it is a long time since I took the photo, but it looks 
> relatively large.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay
>
> --- On Sat, 30/4/11, Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
>
> From: Pankaj Kumar 
> Subject: Re: 28062010VAI1 - Orchid for ID
> To: "Vijay Anand Ismavel" 
> Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 10:48 PM
>
> Yeah it can be, but i need to know the size. Flowers less than 4cm across or 
> more than. If less then coerulescens if more then coerulea.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Vijay Anand Ismavel  
> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I had posted the same image on the Orchids group in Flickr and a 
> French orchid enthusiast in Thailand (Philippe Christophe) who is interested 
> in Vanda species had remarked that this was a "stunning form of Vanda 
> coerulea". He has a website vandaspecies.blogspot.com. I am a complete novice 
> - becoming interested in all sorts of flora.
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay
>
> --- On Sat, 30/4/11, Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
>
> From: Pankaj Kumar 
> Subject: Re: 28062010VAI1 - Orchid for ID
> To: "Vijay Anand Ismavel" 
> Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 10:35 PM
>
> Thanks. I will have to rethink about how to differentiate coerulea and
> coerulescens. There are difference in size and shape of lip too. But
> till now I though it was just the tessellated markings. I will do some
> research and come back with some answers.
> Pankaj
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Vijay Anand Ismavel
>  wrote:
> > Thanks for the ID. I am learning a lot about orchids from you!
> >
> > On Apr 30, 9:50 pm, Dr  Pankaj Kumar  wrote:
> >> aaah, sorry sorry, I didnt see the date...
> >> Pankaj
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 9:33 pm, Vijay Anand Ismavel  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Unidentified Orchid
> >>
> >> > Location: Corbett National Park, Uttaranchal
> >>
> >> > Date: 28th June 2010
> >>
> >> >  Corbett Flowers-1A.jpg
> >> > 204KViewDownload
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ***
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India
>
>
>
> --
> ***
> "TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"
>
>
> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
> Research Associate
> Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
> Department of Habitat Ecology
> Wildlife Institute of India
> Post Box # 18
> Dehradun - 248001, India



--
***
"TAXONOMISTS GETTING EXTINCT AND SPECIES DATA DEFICIENT !!"


Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae)
Research Associate
Greater Kailash Sacred Landscape Project
Department of Habitat Ecology
Wildlife Institute of India
Post Box # 18
Dehradun - 248001, India

Re: [efloraofindia:68549] Lonicera etrusca from California

[tanay bose]

Gorgeous plant
Tanay

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Lonicera etrusca Santi, commonly known as Etruscan honeysuckle is
> distinguished by it upper leaves which are sessile and connate at base,
> flowers on peduncled panicles, yellowish with reddish tinge mainly on the
> outside.
> Photographed from Sunnyvale, California on October 5, 2010
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
>


-- 
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[efloraofindia:68550] RANUNCULACEAE WEEK- MAY 02-08, 2011

[Nidhan Singh]

Dear Friends,

This is my privilege to discuss family of the week with a group where
putting up things is always learning rather than dictating anything. I
am hopeful to get enriched by valuable inputs from all the members of
the group. Here, to start with, general points to keep in mind about
the family Ranunculaceae are being discussed:



Ranunculaceae Jussieu

(The Buttercup Family or The Crowfoot Family)

A highly variable family of about 1900 species of dicotyledonous
plants that includes the buttercups, monkshoods, anemones, clematis,
delphiniums and hellebores, distributed mainly in North temperate and
arctic regions. Most members of the family are at least slightly
poisonous.

In India, this family is represented by 20 genera and about 150
species, mostly confined to mountainous regions.

Vegetative characters:

Nearly all the members of the family are herbaceous, except Clematis
the species of which are woody, generally climbing. Majority of the
Ranunculaceans are perennials, but for a few like Nigella being
annuals. Almost all of them love terrestrial, moist localities but few
species of Ranunculus are truly aquatic (e.g. R. aquatilis).

Rootstock sometimes becomes tuberous with age in perennials. Leaves
usually alternate (opposite in Clematis) with sheathing bases and
often very much divided, usually exstipulate but stipulate in
Trollius, Caltha, Thalictrum (leaf base is broadened into stipule-like
lobes) and Ranunculus.

Leaf shape variable, usually leaves are simple and palmately lobed (as
in Ranunculus) or decompound (like Delphinium), entire (Caltha) and
pinnately compound (Clematis). Aquatic species of Ranunculus show
heterophylly with submerged leaves finely dissected. Leaves are
modified into tendrils in Clematis aphylla.



Inflorescence and Flowers:

Inflorescence, though quite variable, is more often a branched cyme.
In Anemone, Nigella and Eranthis a single terminal flower is produced.
Elongated racemes can be seen as in Delphinium, Aconitum and also much
branched panicles can be found as in Clematis and Thalictrum. In
Nigella and Anemone, there is sometimes an involucre of green leaves
below the flower, usually alternating with the calyx.

The floral parts are free and spirally arranged upon a more or less
elongated receptacle, and their number varies considerably from one
genus to the other. Flowers are mostly bracteate, actinomorphic
(zygomorphic in Delphinium and Aconitum), hermaphrodite (except in
some species of Thalictrum), pentamerous and hypogynous.

The perianth may be distinguishable into calyx and corolla or it may
be undifferentiated. The innermost perianth segments often bear
conspicuous nectaries or very small and reduced nectariferous sacs or
scales.

The calyx consists of five to eight sepals which are distinct, usually
caducous, with imbricate or valvate aestivation. In Delphinium and
Aconitum, the sepals are petaloid and the posterior sepal is spurred.

The corolla is usually of five, free, symmetrical (Ranunculus) or
irregular (Delphinium, Aconitum) petals. In Delphinium, the posterior
pair of petals forms spur which projects into spur of the petal. In
Aquilegia all the five petals form a spur at the base. Ranunculus has
a pocket-like nectary at the base of each petal. In Caltha, Clematis
and Anemone, the petals are completely absent and sepals become
petaloid.

The androecium usually of many, polyandrous and spirally arranged
stamens (in some genera like Helleborus, Nigella and Aquilegia the
stamens are arranged in definite rings). Anthers are adnate,
dithecous, extrorse and dehiscing longitudinally. The filaments are
beautifully coloured in some species of Thalictrum. Flowers are
usually protandrous and the stamens after dehiscence bend outwards
from centre.

The gynoecium is usually of numerous free carpels arranged spirally on
a distinct thalamus, few taxa, of course, have a definite number of
carpels. Aquilegia has five carpels and Delphinium has 1-3 carpels. In
few others like Actaea and Cimicifuga, carpels are reduced to one
only. Not only in number, gynoecium shows variation in cohesion also.
In some species of Helleborus, the carpels are connate at the base,
whereas in Nigella the five carpels are completely united.

The ovary is superior, unilocular with one to many ovules. The
palcentation may be basal (Ranunculus), apical (Clematis) or marginal
(Delphinium) and in Nigella, where gynoecium is syncarpous, ovary is
pentalocular with axile placerntation.

Fruit usually a group of achenes or follicles (capsule in Nigella,
berry in Actaea). Seeds with small embryo and oily endosperm.



Well-known representatives of the family include:

Ranunculus (Buttercup), Clematis (Virgins-bower, Traveller’s joy),
Anemone (Wind Flower), Delphinium (Larkspur), Aconitum (Aconite),
Paeonia (Peony),
Caltha (Marsh marigold), Aquilegia (Columbine), Nigella (Love-in-a-mist),
Helleborus (Hellebore) etc.



I hope to see some of my “favorites” of the family from the group in
the