Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher.  Is there 
no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
add text and other important information like the license (if there is
one).

This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
gallery widgets.

Martin,

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
> tutorials, with a
> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
> needs some
> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
> organized
> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
>
>
> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
> me). I'm not
> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
> and I'm
> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
> more
> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
> current with
> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>
>
> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>
>
> Hi Vardenis,
> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
> Inkscape
> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
> first
> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
> ALWAYS
> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
> it, he still
> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
> they are
> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
> think only a
> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
> very good!
> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
> it out.
> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
> page more
> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
> are
> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
> project, and
> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>
> All best,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
>
>
> Hello, Brynn,
> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
> your website
> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
> in website,
> Thanks for you help. ;-)
> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
> Saporito
> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
> he have
> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
> Tutorials,
> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
> Tutorials, Inkscape
> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
> Inkscape,
> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
> for game
> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
> patterns, too in
> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
> And Drawing
> have interesting tutorials
> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
> bkhs).
>
> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
> more
> interest.
>
> What do you thinks about that?
>
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>
>
> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" :
>
>
> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
> I consider
> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
> any errors
> or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
> /index.php
> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
> current
> pretty soon.
>
> I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but
> can't start
> on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to
> help you, if
> you wanted or needed it.
>
> One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link
> on that
> page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They
> aren't all
> video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current.
>

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

Hi Vardenis,
I think I understand what you mean.  You're thinking it would be better 
not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery?  Well, they already are 
mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).  However, 
you can choose to look at only text or only videos.  See on the right column, 
where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a 
tag when they uploaded??  Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there 
were no videos.  Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video 
tutorials?  (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
But Martin is talking about something else, I think.  He's asking to 
have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.  I haven't ever done that 
before, or seen it.  So I'm not sure what it will look like.
I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know 
they have a free license.  Then we can both see what it's going to look like. 
I'll do it in just a few minutes.
But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it.  
Are 
all YT videos automatically public domain?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and 
don't 
upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current 
video 
tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than 
videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category 
(https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess 
and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?

Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.


03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :


First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
add text and other important information like the license (if there is
one).

This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
gallery widgets.

Martin,

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:


No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
tutorials, with a
link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
needs some
attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
organized
like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.

Thanks for your help,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website


No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
me). I'm not
editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
and I'm
thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
more
helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
current with
new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)


02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :


Hi Vardenis,
 Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
Inkscape
tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
first
started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
ALWAYS
calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
it, he still
keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
they are
helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
 Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
think only a
few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
very good!
 I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
it out.
 Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
page more
current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
are
going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
project, and
edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.

All best,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website


Hello, Brynn,
Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
your website
and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tu

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

Ok, Vardenis, click on the text link "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe", on the Video 
Tutorials page.  It's the first one under "with narration" for Richard Querin.

And Martin, is that what you meant?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
add text and other important information like the license (if there is
one).

This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
gallery widgets.

Martin,

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
> tutorials, with a
> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
> needs some
> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
> organized
> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
>
>
> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
> me). I'm not
> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
> and I'm
> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
> more
> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
> current with
> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>
>
> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>
>
> Hi Vardenis,
> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
> Inkscape
> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
> first
> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
> ALWAYS
> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
> it, he still
> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
> they are
> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
> think only a
> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
> very good!
> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
> it out.
> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
> page more
> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
> are
> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
> project, and
> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>
> All best,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
>
>
> Hello, Brynn,
> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
> your website
> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
> in website,
> Thanks for you help. ;-)
> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
> Saporito
> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
> he have
> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
> Tutorials,
> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
> Tutorials, Inkscape
> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
> Inkscape,
> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
> for game
> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
> patterns, too in
> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
> And Drawing
> have interesting tutorials
> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
> bkhs).
>
> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
> more
> interest.
>
> What do you thinks about that?
>
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>
>
> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" :
>
>
> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
> I consider
> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
> any errors
> or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
> /index.php
> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
> current
> pretty soon.
>
> I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but
> can't start
> on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to
> help you, if
> you wanted or needed it.
>
> One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link
> on that
> page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They
> aren't all
> video

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn:
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher.  Is 
> there 
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

- Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he
wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard
youtube licence, I expect).

Regards,
 Maren

> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
> 
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
>> tutorials, with a
>> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
>> needs some
>> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
>> organized
>> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
>> me). I'm not
>> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
>> and I'm
>> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
>> more
>> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
>> current with
>> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
>> Inkscape
>> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>> first
>> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
>> ALWAYS
>> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
>> it, he still
>> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>> they are
>> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
>> think only a
>> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
>> very good!
>> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
>> it out.
>> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
>> page more
>> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
>> are
>> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>> project, and
>> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> Hello, Brynn,
>> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
>> your website
>> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
>> in website,
>> Thanks for you help. ;-)
>> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>> Saporito
>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>> he have
>> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
>> Tutorials,
>> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>> Tutorials, Inkscape
>> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
>> Inkscape,
>> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
>> for game
>> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>> patterns, too in
>> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
>> And Drawing
>> have interesting tutorials
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>> bkhs).
>>
>> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
>> more
>> interest.
>>
>> What do you thinks about that?
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
>> I consider
>> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
>> any errors
>> or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
>> /index.php
>> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
>> current
>> pretty soon.
>>
>> I have a plan to bring them all over 

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
> Hi Vardenis,
> I think I understand what you mean.  You're thinking it would be 
> better 
> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery?  Well, they already 
> are 
> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).  
> However, 
> you can choose to look at only text or only videos.  See on the right column, 
> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
> Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a 
> tag when they uploaded??  Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if 
> there 
> were no videos.  Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video 
> tutorials?  

- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
extensions.

(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
> But Martin is talking about something else, I think.  He's asking to 
> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.  

- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
work automatically.

> I haven't ever done that 
> before, or seen it.  So I'm not sure what it will look like.
> I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know 
> they have a free license.  Then we can both see what it's going to look like. 
> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
> But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it.  
> Are 
> all YT videos automatically public domain?

- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.

Regards,
 Maren

> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> 
> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and 
> don't 
> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current 
> video 
> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than 
> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category 
> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess 
> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?
> 
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
> 
> 
> 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :
> 
> 
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
> 
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
> 
> 
> No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
> tutorials, with a
> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
> needs some
> attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
> organized
> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
> 
> 
> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
> me). I'm not
> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
> and I'm
> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
> more
> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
> current with
> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
> 
> 
> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
> 
> 
> Hi Vardenis,
>  Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
> Inkscape
> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
> first
> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
> ALWAYS
> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
> it, he still
> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
> they are
> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>  Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
> think only a
> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
> very good!
>  I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
> it out.
>  Yes, those wo

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

Oh, hi Maren  :-)

Did I do it right?  Please look at text link "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe" which 
is the first under "with narration" for Richard Querin.

Or did he mean to put it in the gallery, and I misunderstood?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:29 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn:
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher.  Is there
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

- Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he
wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard
youtube licence, I expect).

Regards,
Maren

> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
>
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
>
> Martin,
>
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
>> tutorials, with a
>> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
>> needs some
>> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
>> organized
>> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
>> me). I'm not
>> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
>> and I'm
>> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
>> more
>> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
>> current with
>> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
>> Inkscape
>> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>> first
>> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
>> ALWAYS
>> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
>> it, he still
>> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>> they are
>> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
>> think only a
>> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
>> very good!
>> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
>> it out.
>> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
>> page more
>> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
>> are
>> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>> project, and
>> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> Hello, Brynn,
>> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
>> your website
>> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
>> in website,
>> Thanks for you help. ;-)
>> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>> Saporito
>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>> he have
>> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
>> Tutorials,
>> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>> Tutorials, Inkscape
>> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
>> Inkscape,
>> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
>> for game
>> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>> patterns, too in
>> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
>> And Drawing
>> have interesting tutorials
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>> bkhs).
>>
>> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
>> more
>> interest.
>>
>> What do you thinks about that?
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.201

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:25 schrieb brynn:
> Ok, Vardenis, click on the text link "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe", on the 
> Video 
> Tutorials page.  It's the first one under "with narration" for Richard Querin.
> 
> And Martin, is that what you meant?

- Is this something that requires translation? Or will we wait until
it's complete?

Maren

> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
> 
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
>> tutorials, with a
>> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
>> needs some
>> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
>> organized
>> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
>> me). I'm not
>> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
>> and I'm
>> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
>> more
>> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
>> current with
>> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
>> Inkscape
>> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>> first
>> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
>> ALWAYS
>> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
>> it, he still
>> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>> they are
>> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
>> think only a
>> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
>> very good!
>> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
>> it out.
>> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
>> page more
>> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
>> are
>> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>> project, and
>> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>
>> Hello, Brynn,
>> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
>> your website
>> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
>> in website,
>> Thanks for you help. ;-)
>> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>> Saporito
>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>> he have
>> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
>> Tutorials,
>> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>> Tutorials, Inkscape
>> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
>> Inkscape,
>> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
>> for game
>> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>> patterns, too in
>> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
>> And Drawing
>> have interesting tutorials
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>> bkhs).
>>
>> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and
>> more
>> interest.
>>
>> What do you thinks about that?
>>
>> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-)
>>
>>
>> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what
>> I consider
>> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain
>> any errors
>> or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com
>> /index.php
>> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it
>> current
>> pretty soon.
>>
>> I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventuall

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:33 schrieb brynn:
> Oh, hi Maren  :-)
> 
> Did I do it right?  Please look at text link
> "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe" which is the first under "with narration"
> for Richard Querin.
> 
> Or did he mean to put it in the gallery, and I misunderstood?

- Yes :)

> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:29 PM
> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn:
>> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. 
>> Is there
>> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
> 
> - Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he
> wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard
> youtube licence, I expect).
> 
> Regards,
> Maren
> 
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Martin Owens
>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
>> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
>> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
>> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
>> one).
>>
>> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
>> gallery widgets.
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>>> No need to create a page.  But if you want to make a list of
>>> tutorials, with a
>>> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.  That page
>>> needs some
>>> attention besides current videos, too.  I'm not sure how it got to be
>>> organized
>>> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help,
>>> brynn
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>>> To: brynn
>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>>> website
>>>
>>>
>>> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
>>> me). I'm not
>>> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
>>> and I'm
>>> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
>>> more
>>> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>>> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
>>> current with
>>> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Vardenis,
>>> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
>>> Inkscape
>>> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
>>> first
>>> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
>>> ALWAYS
>>> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
>>> it, he still
>>> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
>>> they are
>>> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>>> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I
>>> think only a
>>> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes,
>>> very good!
>>> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check
>>> it out.
>>> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials
>>> page more
>>> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you
>>> are
>>> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape
>>> project, and
>>> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website.
>>>
>>> All best,
>>> brynn
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM
>>> To: brynn
>>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>>> website
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, Brynn,
>>> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with
>>> your website
>>> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section
>>> in website,
>>> Thanks for you help. ;-)
>>> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick
>>> Saporito
>>> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists),
>>> he have
>>> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner
>>> Tutorials,
>>> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface
>>> Tutorials, Inkscape
>>> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in
>>> Inkscape,
>>> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials(
>>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists )
>>> for game
>>> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless
>>> patterns, too in
>>> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape
>>> And Drawing
>>> have interesting tutorials
>>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y
>>> bkhs).
>>

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

I don't understand what this means:

> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.

Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
> Hi Vardenis,
> I think I understand what you mean.  You're thinking it would be 
> better
> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery?  Well, they already 
> are
> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). 
> However,
> you can choose to look at only text or only videos.  See on the right column,
> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
> Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a
> tag when they uploaded??  Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there
> were no videos.  Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
> tutorials?

- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
extensions.

(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
> But Martin is talking about something else, I think.  He's asking to
> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.

- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
work automatically.

> I haven't ever done that
> before, or seen it.  So I'm not sure what it will look like.
> I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know
> they have a free license.  Then we can both see what it's going to look like.
> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
> But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. 
> Are
> all YT videos automatically public domain?

- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.

Regards,
Maren

>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
>
> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and 
> don't
> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current 
> video
> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than
> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category
> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess
> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?
>
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
>
>
> 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :
>
>
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
>
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
>
> Martin,
>
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>
>
> No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
> tutorials, with a
> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
> needs some
> attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
> organized
> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
> website
>
>
> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
> me). I'm not
> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
> and I'm
> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
> more
> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
> I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
> current with
> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>
>
> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :
>
>
> Hi Vardenis,
>  Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
> Inkscape
> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
> first
> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he
> ALWAYS
> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned
> it, he still
> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think
> they are
> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users.
>  Chris Hilde

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Vardenis, can you please reply to the list? Depending on your email
program, there are different ways to accomplish that, e.g. 'reply to
all' is available for me, but you may need to paste the list into the
address line yourself.

Embedding should be okay, though - but you can ask Nick and heathenx and
whoever you would like to include if they agree first. Or even invite
them to upload them themselves, so they're linked to their own user
account at inkscape.org, and can serve as some kind of 'entry point' for
publicity for them. It might be that they're not too happy, if we put
all their videos on the website, because it could be they generate
income via their youtube pages... Asking is always nicer, in any case.

Regards,
 Maren

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:44 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> Yes, Maren I'm think explains what Martin thought. (my English... :-()
> Most of videos are in "Standard YouTube License" then it can't be
> uploaded as resource in gallery. (Nick Soporito, even heathenxyt using.).
> 
> 
> 03.01.2017, 23:38, "Maren Hachmann" :
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:33 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>  Oh, hi Maren :-)
>>
>>  Did I do it right? Please look at text link
>>  "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe" which is the first under "with
>> narration"
>>  for Richard Querin.
>>
>>  Or did he mean to put it in the gallery, and I misunderstood?
>>
>>
>> - Yes :)
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:29 PM
>>  To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>  Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>  First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video
>> watcher.
>>  Is there
>>  no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>>
>>
>>  - Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he
>>  wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard
>>  youtube licence, I expect).
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Maren
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Martin Owens
>>  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
>>  To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
>>  Cc: Inkscape-Docs
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>> in website
>>
>>  Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website,
>> if you add
>>  the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and
>> you can
>>  add text and other important information like the license (if
>> there is
>>  one).
>>
>>  This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages
>> using the
>>  gallery widgets.
>>
>>  Martin,
>>
>>  On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>>
>>  No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
>>  tutorials, with a
>>  link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.
>> That page
>>  needs some
>>  attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how
>> it got to be
>>  organized
>>  like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>>  Thanks for your help,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>>  To: brynn
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials"
>> section in
>>  website
>>
>>
>>  No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't
>> agree with
>>  me). I'm not
>>  editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials"
>> section,
>>  and I'm
>>  thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art
>> tutorials can be
>>  more
>>  helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>>  I can try (In text editor) create page with format
>> familiar to the
>>  current with
>>  new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)
>>
>>
>>  02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" > >:
>>
>>
>>  Hi Vardenis,
>>  Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a
>> huge amount of
>>  Inkscape
>>  tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as
>> when he
>>  first
>>  started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me
>> crazy that he
>>  ALWAYS
>>  calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even aft

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But 
now we are putting them in the gallery?

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External 
Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.


03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :


I don't understand what this means:



- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.



Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:


Hi Vardenis,
 I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
better
not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already
are
mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
However,
you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column,
where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
 Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a
tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there
were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
tutorials?



- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
extensions.

(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)


 But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to
have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.



- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
work automatically.



I haven't ever done that
before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
 I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know
they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like.
I'll do it in just a few minutes.
 But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it.
Are
all YT videos automatically public domain?



- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.

Regards,
Maren




Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and
don't
upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current
video
tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than
videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category
(https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess
and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?

Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.


03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :


First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Owens
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Cc: Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
add text and other important information like the license (if there is
one).

This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
gallery widgets.

Martin,

On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:


No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
tutorials, with a
link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
needs some
attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
organized
like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.

Thanks for your help,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
website


No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with
me). I'm not
editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section,
and I'm
thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be
more
helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the
current with
new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-)


02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" :


Hi Vardenis,
  Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of
Inkscape
tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he
first
started. Goes a little too fast now. And it

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
> I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  
> But 
> now we are putting them in the gallery?

- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
commenting ...

I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
videos to be added by their creators.

But maybe that would be going too far?

Regards,
 Maren

> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> 
> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External 
> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
> 
> 
> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :
> 
> 
> I don't understand what this means:
> 
> 
> 
> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
> 
> 
> Hi Vardenis,
>  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
> better
> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already
> are
> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
> However,
> you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column,
> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
>  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a
> tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there
> were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
> tutorials?
> 
> 
> 
> - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
> tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
> extensions.
> 
> (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
> 
> 
>  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to
> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
> 
> 
> 
> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
> work automatically.
> 
> 
> 
> I haven't ever done that
> before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know
> they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like.
> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
>  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it.
> Are
> all YT videos automatically public domain?
> 
> 
> 
> - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
> 
> Regards,
> Maren
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> 
> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and
> don't
> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current
> video
> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than
> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category
> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess
> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?
> 
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
> 
> 
> 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :
> 
> 
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
> 
> Thanks,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and other important information like the license (if there is
> one).
> 
> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the
> gallery widgets.
> 
> Martin,
> 
> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
> 
> 
> No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
> tutorials, with a
> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page
> needs some
> attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be
> organized
> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> brynn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
> To: brynn
> Subje

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

> Or even invite
them to upload them themselves, so they're linked to their own user
account at inkscape.org,

That's my long term plan, for all the tutorials I have listed on my site.  But 
I 
can't start on that now.  Vardenis wanted to put more current tutorials on the 
Video Tutorials page.  And I don't mind doing that right now, because it won't 
take very long.

But I remain confused about what Martin wants.

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:49 PM
To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; Inkscape-Docs
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Vardenis, can you please reply to the list? Depending on your email
program, there are different ways to accomplish that, e.g. 'reply to
all' is available for me, but you may need to paste the list into the
address line yourself.

Embedding should be okay, though - but you can ask Nick and heathenx and
whoever you would like to include if they agree first. Or even invite
them to upload them themselves, so they're linked to their own user
account at inkscape.org, and can serve as some kind of 'entry point' for
publicity for them. It might be that they're not too happy, if we put
all their videos on the website, because it could be they generate
income via their youtube pages... Asking is always nicer, in any case.

Regards,
Maren

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:44 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> Yes, Maren I'm think explains what Martin thought. (my English... :-()
> Most of videos are in "Standard YouTube License" then it can't be
> uploaded as resource in gallery. (Nick Soporito, even heathenxyt using.).
>
>
> 03.01.2017, 23:38, "Maren Hachmann" :
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:33 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>  Oh, hi Maren :-)
>>
>>  Did I do it right? Please look at text link
>>  "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe" which is the first under "with
>> narration"
>>  for Richard Querin.
>>
>>  Or did he mean to put it in the gallery, and I misunderstood?
>>
>>
>> - Yes :)
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:29 PM
>>  To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in
>> website
>>
>>  Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>  First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video
>> watcher.
>>  Is there
>>  no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>>
>>
>>  - Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he
>>  wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard
>>  youtube licence, I expect).
>>
>>  Regards,
>>  Maren
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Martin Owens
>>  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
>>  To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
>>  Cc: Inkscape-Docs
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>> in website
>>
>>  Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website,
>> if you add
>>  the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and
>> you can
>>  add text and other important information like the license (if
>> there is
>>  one).
>>
>>  This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages
>> using the
>>  gallery widgets.
>>
>>  Martin,
>>
>>  On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote:
>>
>>  No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of
>>  tutorials, with a
>>  link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page.
>> That page
>>  needs some
>>  attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how
>> it got to be
>>  organized
>>  like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets.
>>
>>  Thanks for your help,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM
>>  To: brynn
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials"
>> section in
>>  website
>>
>>
>>  No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't
>> agree with
>>  me). I'm not
>>  editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials"
>> section,
>>  and I'm
>>  thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art
>> tutorials can be
>>  more
>>  helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section.
>>  I can try (In text editor) create page with format
>> familiar to the
>>  current with

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to 
contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and 
we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But again, that's not something 
I can start on right away.

But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more 
current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. 
I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)

But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.

Thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
> I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But
> now we are putting them in the gallery?

- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
commenting ...

I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
videos to be added by their creators.

But maybe that would be going too far?

Regards,
Maren

> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
>
> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External
> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>
>
> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :
>
>
> I don't understand what this means:
>
>
>
> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>
>
> Hi Vardenis,
>  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
> better
> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already
> are
> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
> However,
> you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column,
> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
>  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a
> tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there
> were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
> tutorials?
>
>
>
> - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
> tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
> extensions.
>
> (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
>
>
>  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to
> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
>
>
>
> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
> work automatically.
>
>
>
> I haven't ever done that
> before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know
> they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like.
> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
>  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it.
> Are
> all YT videos automatically public domain?
>
>
>
> - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
>
> Regards,
> Maren
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
> To: brynn
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
>
> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and
> don't
> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current
> video
> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than
> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category
> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess
> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks?
>
> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks.
>
>
> 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" :
>
>
> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there
> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it?
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Martin Owens
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM
> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis
> Cc: Inkscape-Docs
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add
> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can
> add text and ot

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
> I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
> to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
> extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But
> again, that's not something I can start on right away.

- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
still open, no decision was made).

> But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
> more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets
> came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)
> 
> But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.

- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
switch, not sure.

Maren

> Thanks
> 
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
> 
> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
>> I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
>> page.  But
>> now we are putting them in the gallery?
> 
> - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
> entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
> well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
> commenting ...
> 
> I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
> videos to be added by their creators.
> 
> But maybe that would be going too far?
> 
> Regards,
> Maren
> 
>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
>> External
>> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>>
>>
>> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> I don't understand what this means:
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>>  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
>> better
>> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
>> already
>> are
>> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
>> However,
>> you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right
>> column,
>> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
>>  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not
>> put such a
>> tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as
>> if there
>> were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
>> tutorials?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
>> tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
>> extensions.
>>
>> (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
>>
>>
>>  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's
>> asking to
>> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
>> work automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't ever done that
>> before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>>  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because
>> I know
>> they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look
>> like.
>> I'll do it in just a few minutes.
>>  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and
>> embedding it.
>> Are
>> all YT videos automatically public domain?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials)
>> and
>> don't
>> upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section
>> (current
>> video
>> tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text
>> based than
>> videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials
>> category
>> (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of
>> a mess
>> and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

I asked Vardenis if he wanted to make the edits himself, and I explained about 
the wysiwyg editor.  He said he didn't want to, but he would be glad to make a 
list of some more current videos to put on that page.  And I said sure, I don't 
mind updating the page.

All of that might not have made it to the list, because he was always replying 
just to me.  I tried to reply to the list, so maybe it's in a message, but is 
further below the current reply.

I don't care if anyone wants to take on the project.  Here's the feature 
description:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669.  It's just 
that I've already contacted all the tutorial authors, when I made the page, and 
it would be easy for me to contact them again.  But if someone else wants to do 
it, that's fine with me.

brynn


-Original Message- 
From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:07 PM
To: brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net ; Vardenis Pavardenis
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
> I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
> to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
> extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But
> again, that's not something I can start on right away.

- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
still open, no decision was made).

> But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
> more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets
> came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)
>
> But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.

- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
switch, not sure.

Maren

> Thanks
>
> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>
> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
>> I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
>> page.  But
>> now we are putting them in the gallery?
>
> - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
> entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
> well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
> commenting ...
>
> I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
> videos to be added by their creators.
>
> But maybe that would be going too far?
>
> Regards,
> Maren
>
>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
>> External
>> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>>
>>
>> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :
>>
>>
>> I don't understand what this means:
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>>  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
>> better
>> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
>> already
>> are
>> mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
>> However,
>> you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right
>> column,
>> where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
>>  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not
>> put such a
>> tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as
>> if there
>> were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
>> tutorials?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
>> tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
>> extensions.
>>
>> (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)
>>
>>
>>  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's
>> asking to
>> have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
>> work automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't ever done that
>> before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
>>  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because
>> I know
>> they have a free license

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page?  Just so I'm clear what's 
happening.

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload 
videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or 
something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that 
they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)


04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" :


Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:


I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But
again, that's not something I can start on right away.



- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
still open, no decision was made).



But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets
came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)

But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.



- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
switch, not sure.

Maren



Thanks

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
page. But
now we are putting them in the gallery?

- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
commenting ...

I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
videos to be added by their creators.

But maybe that would be going too far?

Regards,
Maren

-Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
External
Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.


03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :


I don't understand what this means:



- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.



Thanks

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:


Hi Vardenis,
  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
better
not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
already
are
mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).
However,
you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right
column,
where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?
  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not
put such a
tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as
if there
were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video
tutorials?



- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The
tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the
extensions.

(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)


  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's
asking to
have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.



- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will
work automatically.



I haven't ever done that
before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.
  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because
I know
they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look
like.
I'll do it in just a few minutes.
  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and
embedding it.
Are
all YT videos automatically public domain?



- Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'.

Regards,
Maren




Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM
To: brynn
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials)
and
don't
upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section
(

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too
> wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some authors
> of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.
> Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good, some
> edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape
> Explained"
> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC 
> )
> it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from beginner,
> intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game art/animation
> from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste (pastebin)
> in here in format:
> Author AuthorChannelUrl
> with narration
> VideoUrl
> VideoDescription
> 
> I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?

- Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.

If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout the
page. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.

Regards,
 Maren

> 04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" :
>>
>> So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so I'm clear
>> what's
>> happening.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
>> To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree
>> to upload
>> videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top
>> 10 or
>> something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and
>> request that
>> they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)
>>
>>
>> 04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" > >:
>>
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
>> to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
>> extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But
>> again, that's not something I can start on right away.
>>
>>
>>
>> - But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
>> might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
>> a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
>> want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
>> still open, no decision was made).
>>
>>
>>
>> But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
>> more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets
>> came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)
>>
>> But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.
>>
>>
>>
>> - He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
>> switch, not sure.
>>
>> Maren
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
>> I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
>> page. But
>> now we are putting them in the gallery?
>>
>> - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
>> entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
>> well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
>> commenting ...
>>
>> I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new
>> videos to be added by their creators.
>>
>> But maybe that would be going too far?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maren
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM
>> To: brynn
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>>
>> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,
>> External
>> Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand.
>>
>>
>> 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>> I don't understand what this means:
>>
>>
>>
>> - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM
>> To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>> Hi Vardenis,
>>   I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be
>> better
>> not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they
>> already
>> are
>> mixed up in the 

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Maren Hachmann]

Am 04.01.2017 um 01:04 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
> Great. :-) I'm made simple ideas how to layout list of tutorials in
> here: https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/
> 
> Brynn, it's good for you after full list is done? Maybe anyone comments
> about layout, ideas? :-)
> Thanks. ;-)

- Just an idea: Maybe rather not copy-paste the video description, but
write something very short yourself? We can help with the wording, don't
let language stop you ;-)

The order of things looks good to me.

Regards,
 Maren

> 04.01.2017, 00:55, "Maren Hachmann" :
>>
>> Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:
>>
>>  I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too
>>  wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some
>> authors
>>  of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.
>>  Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good,
>> some
>>  edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape
>>  Explained"
>>  
>> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC
>> 
>> )
>>  it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from
>> beginner,
>>  intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game
>> art/animation
>>  from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste
>> (pastebin)
>>  in here in format:
>>  Author AuthorChannelUrl
>>  with narration
>>  VideoUrl
>>  VideoDescription
>>
>>  I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?
>>
>>
>> - Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.
>>
>> If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout the
>> page. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.
>>
>> Regards,
>>  Maren
>>
>>  04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" mailto:br...@frii.com>>:
>>
>>
>>  So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so
>> I'm clear
>>  what's
>>  happening.
>>
>>  Thanks,
>>  brynn
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Vardenis Pavardenis
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
>>  To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ;
>> inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>>  > >
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section
>> in website
>>
>>
>>  I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if
>> authors agree
>>  to upload
>>  videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in
>> page Top
>>  10 or
>>  something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and
>>  request that
>>  they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)
>>
>>
>>  04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" > 
>>  > >>:
>>
>>
>>  Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:
>>
>>
>>  I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had
>> a chance
>>  to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is
>> doing for
>>  extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the
>> site. But
>>  again, that's not something I can start on right away.
>>
>>
>>
>>  - But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder
>> if he
>>  might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward,
>> instead of
>>  a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if
>> we still
>>  want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and
>> the field is
>>  still open, no decision was made).
>>
>>
>>
>>  But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page
>> a little
>>  more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all
>> those bullets
>>  came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did
>> (years ago)
>>
>>  But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.
>>
>>
>>
>>  - He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation
>> for the
>>  switch, not sure.
>>
>>  Maren
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
>>  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
>>  To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
>> 
>>  > >
>>  Subject: Re: [Inkscape-

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Vardenis Pavardenis]

I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" :Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn: I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But again, that's not something I can start on right away.- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if hemight prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead ofa short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we stillwant to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field isstill open, no decision was made). But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago) But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for theswitch, not sure.Maren Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But now we are putting them in the gallery? - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ... I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators. But maybe that would be going too far? Regards, Maren -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" : I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis,  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes.  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" 

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Vardenis Pavardenis]

Currently in YouTube are 3-4 channels who creating videos about Inkcape, if I know all. :-)04.01.2017, 00:23, "Vardenis Pavardenis" :I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" :Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn: I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site.  But again, that's not something I can start on right away.- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if hemight prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead ofa short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we stillwant to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field isstill open, no decision was made). But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too.  I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago) But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for theswitch, not sure.Maren Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused!  We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page.  But now we are putting them in the gallery? - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ... I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators. But maybe that would be going too far? Regards, Maren -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" : I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis,  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.  I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes.  But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess 

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Vardenis Pavardenis]

I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some authors of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good, some edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape Explained" (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC) it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from beginner, intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game art/animation from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste (pastebin) in here in format:Author AuthorChannelUrlwith narrationVideoUrlVideoDescriptionI'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" :So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page?  Just so I'm clear what's happening.Thanks,brynn-Original Message- From: Vardenis PavardenisSent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PMTo: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in websiteI Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" :Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chanceto contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing forextensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. Butagain, that's not something I can start on right away.- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if hemight prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead ofa short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we stillwant to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field isstill open, no decision was made).But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a littlemore current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bulletscame from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for theswitch, not sure.MarenThanks-Original Message- From: Maren HachmannSent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PMTo: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in websiteAm 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorialspage. Butnow we are putting them in the gallery?- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that pageentirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just aswell, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,commenting ...I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for newvideos to be added by their creators.But maybe that would be going too far?Regards,Maren-Original Message- From: Vardenis PavardenisSent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PMTo: brynnSubject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in websitehttps://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin,ExternalLink - In here YouTube Link as I understand.03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" :I don't understand what this means:- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource.Thanks-Original Message- From: Maren HachmannSent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PMTo: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in websiteAm 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn:Hi Vardenis,  I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would bebetternot to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, theyalreadyaremixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/).However,you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the rightcolumn,where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text?  Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did notput such atag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, asif therewere no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the videotutorials?- Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. Thetags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for theextensions.(I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.)  But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He'sasking tohave the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page.- He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding willwork automatically.I haven't ever done thatbefore, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like.  I'll try an example, using one of

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[Vardenis Pavardenis]

Great. :-) I'm made simple ideas how to layout list of tutorials in here: https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/Brynn, it's good for you after full list is done? Maybe anyone comments about layout, ideas? :-)Thanks. ;-)04.01.2017, 00:55, "Maren Hachmann" :Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis: I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some authors of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too. Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good, some edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape Explained" (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC ) it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from beginner, intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game art/animation from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste (pastebin) in here in format: Author AuthorChannelUrl with narration VideoUrl VideoDescription I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?- Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout thepage. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.Regards, Maren 04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" : So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so I'm clear what's happening. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree to upload videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top 10 or something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and request that they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-) 04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" >: Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn: I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But again, that's not something I can start on right away. - But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is still open, no decision was made). But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago) But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant. - He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the switch, not sure. Maren Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn: I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page. But now we are putting them in the gallery? - I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination, commenting ... I think that would be an improvement, and also make it easier for new videos to be added by their creators. But maybe that would be going too far? Regards, Maren -Original Message- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" >: I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis,   I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textu

Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

[brynn]

Well you guys have totally lost me.  Now we are back to the Video Tutorials 
page?  Maybe there were some messages that didn't go the list, and I didn't see 
them?

As I said before, it would be better for me just to have a list of the videos 
you want, and I'll try to find a good way to format the page.  We can always 
discuss it, if you don't like how I do it, until eventually we find a format to 
agree on.

Like for example, in the section of line 6 to line 11.  The website editor does 
not allow indenting like that.  I think that's why whoever last edited that 
page, it's full of bullets.

Possibly we could use a table to organize them?  It's been a while since I 
worked on a page on the website, and many changes have happened since then, 
with 
text styling and formatting.  So I'll have to experiment, and we can discuss as 
it goes.

Should we use the embedding link, like I showed in one example earlier?  Or 
just 
plain links, like it is already?

All best,
brynn

-Original Message- 
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 5:04 PM
To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


Great. :-) I'm made simple ideas how to layout list of tutorials in here: 
https://inkscape.org/en/paste/10565/
Brynn, it's good for you after full list is done? Maybe anyone comments about 
layout, ideas? :-)
Thanks. ;-)


04.01.2017, 00:55, "Maren Hachmann" :


Am 03.01.2017 um 23:50 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis:


I'm thinking now about just editing this list, but Marten idea too
wonderful, but it's hard to achieve, but I try to contact some authors
of videos to upload videos in inkscape.org too.
Make list is a lot easer I think, and sure I can try (if it good, some
edit and update), about list I'm thinking first of all "Inkscape
Explained"
(https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLynG8gQD-n8Byyq30_FOq9ylUFL1nTkGC 
)
it's must know for all beginners(IMO), then some videos from beginner,
intermediate, logo design. how to draw from Sid Arts, game art/animation
from Chris Hildenbrand and if I found from others and paste (pastebin)
in here in format:
Author AuthorChannelUrl
with narration
VideoUrl
VideoDescription

I'm think I can do that (beta. :-))) in few days or less. Deal?



- Sounds wonderful to me :) I'm happy with any kind of update.

If you like, you can already have a think about how you would layout the
page. Brynn is right about the nested lists being not easy to look at.

Regards,
Maren



04.01.2017, 00:37, "brynn" :

So now you don't want to edit Video Tutorials page? Just so I'm clear
what's
happening.

Thanks,
brynn

-Original Message-
From: Vardenis Pavardenis
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:22 PM
To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net

Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website


I Agree, it's better to contact to video authors and if authors agree
to upload
videos in website it would be wonderful and as Maren said in page Top
10 or
something. Than i try to contact YouTubers who create videos and
request that
they upload too videos in inkscape.org website. :-)


04.01.2017, 00:07, "Maren Hachmann" mailto:ma...@goos-habermann.de>>:


Am 03.01.2017 um 23:02 schrieb brynn:


I think getting rid of that page would be fine, once I've had a chance
to contact all the tutorial authors (just like Neon22 is doing for
extensions) and we have a lot of tutorials loaded to the site. But
again, that's not something I can start on right away.



- But Vardenis could, and there's no urgency at all. I wonder if he
might prefer doing a task that will take the website forward, instead of
a short-term fix? We could select the top 10 or so videos, if we still
want to keep that page, then. It's much, much too long (and the field is
still open, no decision was made).



But for the short term, we can make the Video Tutorials page a little
more current, and look better too. I'm not sure where all those bullets
came from. I think someone else must have edited after I did (years ago)

But I'm still trying to understand what Martin meant.



- He might have meant both at the same time, in preparation for the
switch, not sure.

Maren



Thanks

-Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:54 PM
To: inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net

Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website

Am 03.01.2017 um 22:49 schrieb brynn:
I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials
page. But
now we are putting them in the gallery?

- I wouldn't mind if some day, someone would decommission that page
entirely... It's not a beautiful page, and the gallery can do it just as
well, only with search, tags, ordering by quality, pagination,
c